NBA All-Star Reserves: Ryan Anderson Not on 2012 Eastern Squad
by Evan Dunlap on Feb 9, 2012 7:42 PM EST
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PrintDespite a strong performance for the Orlando Magic through the first 26 games of the 2011/12 NBA season, fourth-year power forward Ryan Anderson was not named to the NBA's Eastern Conference All-Star team, meaning Magic center Dwight Howard will be the host city's only representative during the February 26th event.
Anderson's averaging 16.5 points and 7.4 boards for the 16-10 Magic, and leads the NBA in three-pointers made (74) and attempted (172).
Among Eastern Conference power forwards, Anderson ranks number one in Player Efficiency Rating (23.02), number three in True Shooting Percentage (59.3 percent), number two in scoring, and number nine in rebounds.
The East's reserves are forwards Chris Bosh, Luol Deng, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce; center Roy Hibbert; and guards Joe Johnson and Deron Williams.
LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, and Dirk Nowitzki serve as forwards on the Western side. Marc Gasol mans the pivot, while Steve Nash, Tony Parker, and Russell Westbrook will run point.
In January, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said his coaching peers should not vote Anderson onto the Eastern squad. "I'm not putting a guy in for the first time who doesn't have the resume yet," said the coach. "Not when there are guys like Amar'e Stoudemire and Carlos Boozer and Kevin Garnett, guys who have been doing it for years." Interestingly, none of the veterans Van Gundy cited as an example made the East squad.
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Not a surprise...but still disappointing.
I also saw that story that SVG said it was a mistake not playing Anderson more last year.
Sort of crappy for a guy that’s clearly having an All-Star year. Which, by the way, if you can say someone is having an “All-Star Year” then the idea that they’ve been consistent for years shouldn’t come into account when choosing who’s on the roster for any given year.
Either way, not surprising. If he keeps this up, he may be a starter next year anyways.
I can’t find any word on who’s in the 3-pt contest…has it been released yet?
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by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 9, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He will be invited to 3 pt contest.
Most made this season so far with a good % as well.
And it is in ORLANDO!
You would think it would be a no brainer, but I'm never sure.
The league does some bizarre invites for that event. Also, that event should have more people in it. I find it more entertaining than the dunk contest for the most part (aside from the iconic dunks which are maybe once every few years) and since you could have 2 people shooting at the same time it’s not a big deal.
Too depressed to think of a sig.
Yeah, I wasn't surprised about that.
Just like I wasn’t surprised that the Magic beating the Heat wasn’t mentioned a single time during PTI on Thursday. However, there was a segment on LeBron’s “It’s LeBron’s fault” interview, Jameer’s birthday (talked about Dwight trade), and Rich DeVos talking about wanting Dwight to stay. Three chances to mention the Magic beating down Miami in their best game of the year, and no dice.
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Nice to see that certain guys didn't make just on reputation.
Tim Duncan didn’t make it, and Dirk probably didn’t deserve it either.
I don't think he is deserving
Let’s see him do this in the playoffs.
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He has been snubbed. Even if he had tough competitoin, he should have been given the nod being from the host city.
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Players chosen on rep not production.
Ryan made the conversation this year. Maybe makes the team next year. He’s not gotten the media attention. Putting up these numbers in some playoff wins would go a long way for him.
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Anderson's only 23 years old
…and won’t be 24 until May. There will plenty of chances for Ryan to make the All-Star Game in future seasons.
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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 10, 2012 1:02 AM EST reply actions
I don't think he deserves to be on the team.
That said, I think he might have deserved it more than someone like Roy Hibbert or Luol Deng (I think Deng is a better player, but he’s missed a chunk of games due to injury). This season is weird, so again, I’m not upset about anything except for the fact that he’s not even getting mentioned in the mainstream media.
Hopefully in the near future, he’ll get consistent enough (and play D well enough) to earn a spot. I just hope it’ll be on the Magic, since he’s a restricted FA.
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There lies another huge mistake by Otis Smith, in not extending his contract.
Considering that Ryan should have been a must have player in any scenario for the Magic going forward, rebuilding or championship contention, why risk leaving his re-signing to free market fluctuations? Oh … I know … match a huge offer, and then trade him for nothing … that is a well-proven trend which stands the passage of time! Fire Otis Smith.
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Ryan is a restricted free agent and the Magic will match virtually any offer
By not extending him now they get more flexibility going forward and it doesn’t really cost them at all. You generally will only see extensions for guys at this point on their rookie contracts if they are max salary guys and as awesome as Ryno is, he isn’t that at this point.
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Yeah, but why not extend now at a more reasonable salary before his stock goes up?
And sorry … where we are now with our salary cap, I don’t buy into flexibility argument. It’s a risk that may cost us more while flexibility could help little, considering that the probability of Dwight’s staying is very low, in my view. Yeah … I haven’t given up yet, but holding no high hopes, neither.
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Wasn't Jason an unrestricted free agent as well?
Bas re-signing if we’re not gonna trade him by the deadline.
Yes,
and yes, it was and is a terrible signing.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 10, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson needs to be a bit more consistent to make All-Star
Some nights he’s on fire and puts up 25 points. Other nights he shoots 3/12 and scores 8 points. That’s not All-Star caliber. Ryno has a very potent post-up game, and can easily take advantage of smaller players guarding him. He’s a great three-point shooter, but I think if Anderson starts taking the rock to the hoop more ofter and stops having those occasional horrific shooting nights, he’ll be hard to leave off the roster in Houston.
Did you see the post on basketball prospectus?
I’m guessing not, because they broke down a variety of different statistical metrics and it doesn’t matter which one you choose, the only more deserving forward in the east is Lebron James. For example, Ryan Anderson has the 16th highest PER in the entire league. Among east forwards, he’s 2nd only to Lebron with 23.02. The other reserve forwards are Pierce (20.89), Bosh (19.73), and Iggy (18.83), and Deng (16.29). In wins added he’s again 2nd to Lebron with 4.4 while Bosh (3.9), Pierce (3.9), Iggy (3.8), and Deng (2.3) are all runners up there, too.
Oh, by the way, Ryno has scored less than 10 points exactly twice this season – December 26th and January 6th. For comparison, Bosh also had 2 games with fewer than 10 points, while Pierce has had 3, Deng has had 4, and Iggy has had 7.
Too depressed to think of a sig.
No, I read OPP and watch every Magic game so...
MY BAD… let’s change 3/12 to 4/14 with a few ft’s or three’s after shooting 2/8 from distance. I am not a stats geek my point is he needs to be more consistent and not go through stretches where he completely disappears.
I like Anderson a lot. He is probably my favorite player because I am not going to love Dwight whole-heartedly again until this trade mess ends. I’m just saying his inconsistency is what cost him a spot.
Overall stats-wise, yes Ryno belongs, but stats alone don’t qualify you. Otherwise Monta Ellis and his crazy scoring average would have him as a perennial All-Star.
BTW sorry about my earlier swears on here folks, I will watch my potty mouth from now on. I just get a little carried away talking about my favorite team.
So you say Anderson needs to be more consistent,
and then you are shown that he IS consistent and consistently great (seriously, 23.02 PER). Suddenly it’s not about the stats and being consistent; now it’s about……I’m not even sure? What you have is an opinion. Then you should use information such as statistics to decide if your opinion is right, and if it’s not, that means exactly that – that your opinion is not right, not that you’re not a “stats geek”.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 10, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nah, what it means is that some of you ppl on here are jerks
I’ll just go back to magicbasketball.net where I can feel good about being a Magic fan and not be ripped by other Magic fans. Too many haters on this site. You guys can look at PER, efg%, and all that, but at the end of the day Ryno is hot and cold and that’s why he’s not an All-Star.
As Eric Cartman would say, “Screw you guys, I’m going home.”
And I get the last word because I won’t be back to look at your response. You haters can have each other. Peace.
by aterry560 on Feb 10, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Found a new definition of "hater":
Someone who provides evidence to back up their opinion. So many haters here!
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by slickw143 on Feb 11, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If that makes me a hater,
I’m all for it!
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 11, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh, Josh Smith has a better chance of making it this year .
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by 4QB on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Ryan Anderson isn't even close to being a snub.
It’s been kind of a down year for power forwards which could bring Anderson into the conversation but even if you take Deng out of the equation Boozer and Smith have to be ahead of Anderson.
And that’s with Garnett, Stoudemire, and West having down years. Any of those players having a halfway decent year would be well ahead of Anderson’s 16 and 7.
And how is 16 ppg and 7 rpg an “all-star” year? The argument I hear is almost like “he scores his 16 points using threes, so his efficiency numbers are good. He shoots so many threes that he leads the league in threes. Good efficiency and leading the league in something = automatic all-star!”
No it doesn’t.
Does he make his teammates better? No.
Can he create his own shot? No.
Is his defense good enough? No.
Hedo Turkoglu had a season where you could answer Yes to all of those questions and he put up 19.5 ppg 5.7rpg 5.0 apg on top of it and he didn’t make the all-star team. That is an “all-star snub”.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Feb 10, 2012 1:12 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
By what metric do Boozer and Smith have to be ahead?
Also, it’s great to use raw points and rebounds that don’t take into account who you are playing with, pace, minutes played, etc. However, let’s look at the comparison to Boozer since they do play similar minutes.
Points: Boozer 15.1 Anderson 16.5
Anderson wins.
Efficiency: Boozer 12.8 shots per game with .549 true shooting and 21.4% usage, Anderson 12.5 shots at .593 and just 19.7% sage.
Anderson wins.
Turnovers: Boozer 1.5 per game (9.0 TO%), Anderson 0.6 per game (3.9 TO %)
Anderson Wins
Blocks: Boozer 0.5pg Anderson 0.3
Boozer Wins
Offensive Rebounds: Boozer 1.9 (7.2 offensive rebound rate), Anderson 3.4 (12.5 orr)
Anderson Wins
Defensive Rebounds: Boozer 6.5 (23.8 DRR), Anderson 4.0 (15.1)
Boozer wins (but remember Ryan plays with the best rebounder in the league, too).
Per: Boozer 20.47, Anderson 23.02
Anderson wins.
Estimated wins added: Boozer 3.8, Anderson 4.4
Anderson wins.
Value above replacement: Boozer 113, Anderson 132.2
Anderson wins
Defensive Rating: Boozer 104, Anderson 103
Boozer wins
Offensive Rating: Boozer 111, Anderson 117
Anderson wins
So, you can say you think Boozer is more deserving, but it is far from some obvious and by just about any statistical measure you want to you use, Ryan is above any of the other options period.
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by EnnBee on Feb 10, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I believe that...
Defensive Rating is based on points per 100 possessions by the opponent and the lower the number the better.
Anyway, Boozer is a better player playing a smaller role on a hugely successful team. Anderson is getting many many more scoring opportunities because he’s playing on a team without any great scorers. His efficiency numbers are pretty because all he does is shoot threes which is a very efficient way to score. But that’s it. He scores efficiently that is his thing. Great. That is an excellent quality to have in one of your top role players.
He would make the all-role player team by a mile. He might be 1st Team all-role player.
But your are not an all-star if your offensive strategy going into a game is to cross your fingers and hope you get left open for a lot of threes.
He is working on other aspects of his game but he is nowhere near ready to be labeled an all-star at this time.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Feb 10, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
You are right about defensive rating, so Anderson wins that one, too.
Also, you say that “Anderson is getting many many more scoring opportunities because he’s playing on a team without any great scorers.” Wouldn’t that mean that teams should be more geared on stopping Anderson so he’s actually facing tougher defenses? Also, Anderson takes fewer shots and has a lower usage rate (though produces better numbers) so I’m confused at just exactly how that translates to him getting more scoring opportunities.
As for the argument that Anderson only relies on 3 point shots (while completely ignoring everywhere else that Anderson bests Boozer), lets look at the numbers and what they mean.
Boozer does shoot a higher percentage from 2 (52% to 46%), however he is assisted on 72% of his 2 point shots while Anderson is assisted just 51%. So, for shots inside the arc, Anderson is much more responsible for his own points and it’s not just about “crossing your fingers for open threes.”
Finally, what is the problem with efficiency? Isn’t that ideally what you want in a player? Score lots of points without many possessions? Why should that be deemed a negative?
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I may bring myself to change my snubbing comment. But considering that they usually mix forwards (PFs and SFs) and power forwards & centers, I was surprised that his name was not mentioned at all by TNT comentators.
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TNT are populists
Anderson isn’t a “name” player and his team isn’t an anointed contender, so they don’t pay him any attention.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 12, 2012 2:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
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