Orlando Magic 85, Indiana Pacers 81
by Mike from Illinois on Feb 4, 2012 11:41 PM EST
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PrintThe Orlando Magic (15-9) were able to overcome a season-high 25 total turnovers, including a career-high tying eight turnovers from Hedo Turkoglu, to stave off the Indiana Pacers (16-7) comeback attempt and hold on for a 85-81 victory, their third in a row. The Magic's Ryan Anderson hit four clutch free throws in the final ten seconds of the game to keep the Pacers at bay. Indiana came as close as 69-68 with just over seven minutes remaining, but the Magic were able to hold the Pacers off the rest of the way.
Dwight Howard led the way for the Magic with 27 points, 8 rebounds, 3 steals, and 2 blocks. Jason Richardson added 17 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists; Ryan Anderson had 12 points and 7 boards. For Indiana, Danny Granger led them in scoring with 19 points, and 7 rebounds, but shot just 4 of 16. Tyler Hansbrough led the Pacers' reserves with 17 points. Paul George, coming off a 30 point game Friday night, scored 13 points along with 7 rebounds and 5 assists. No one for the Pacers shot 50% or better from the field.
The Magic played well on defense again, holding Indiana to just 34.2% shooting for the game, including 4 of 22 (18.2%) from the three point line. In the second half, the Pacers could only shoot 13 of 43 (30.2%), including 8 of 28 (28.6%) in the fourth.
Aside from a brief Indiana lead in the opening minutes of the game, the Magic never lost the lead, even though the score was tied at 39 at the half. The Magic outscored Indiana 23-14 in the third quarter, shooting 10 for 18 (55.9%) from the field, allowing them to hold a 62-53 lead after three. Even though the Magic shot just 4 of 15 from the field in the fourth, they made 14 of 17 from the free throw line to help them claim the hard-earned victory.
Other game notes:
-Quentin Richardson led the Magic reserves with 8 points, all coming in the first half. J.J. Redick, who was scoreless on Friday, scored 7 points, including 2 of 2 on threes. Magic reserves Von Wafer, Earl Clark, and Ish Smith, who combined for 21 points Friday, scored a combined two points against the Pacers.
-Not only did Turkoglu have the eight turnovers, he shot just 2 of 11 from the field, including 0 for 6 on threes. He did contribute though with 10 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal and a block.
-Chris Duhon continues to be unspectacular but steady at point guard, starting in place of the injured Jameer Nelson. He scored just 3 points in 38 minutes, but had only one turnover and dished out 5 assists.
-For the first time this season, Howard shot 70% from the free throw line, making 7 of 10. In the last three games, Howard is shooting free throws as well as he has at any point in the season, making 27 of 42 (64.3%).
-Indiana's David West, averaging 12 points a game, was held to 4 points on 2 of 7 shooting.
-Indiana had a 15-8 advantage on offensive boards, and attempted 13 more shots than the Magic.
Kudos to the Magic for being able to pull off the upset victory over Indiana, despite a brutal travel schedule because of the Super Bowl being held in Indy. The Pacers have lost two home games this season, with both losses coming at the hands of the Magic.
Here is the complete box score.
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So...
We want Indiana in the playoffs, right?
by eltharion_doa on Feb 5, 2012 12:45 AM EST via Android app reply actions
My apologies... bad omission on my part
The Magic were called for six technical fouls in the game, and the Pacers two.
Quentin Richardson was given two technical fouls and ejected with 1:16 remaining in the third quarter following a confrontation with Granger, who received a technical. Earl Clark and Tyler Hansbrough also were called for technicals in the altercation.
Hedo Turkoglu was given a technical foul with 12 seconds remaining for throwing the ball down the court after he was fouled by Granger.
Stan Van Gundy had this to say after the game, referring to the Magic’s technicals (courtesy of the Yahoo! Sports recap):
“We have to talk on Monday. We did some mentally dumb things and we have to change that.”
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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 5, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
Dwight also got a Tech for complaining to an official about not receiving a foul call...
….on a play in which he received a foul call
Haha Yeah, that was funny.
To be fair, he was complaining to the ref who was right there that didn’t call the foul. Especially since before he even got the ball, Hibbert had Dwight in an arm lock with no call. The refs were bad last night.
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by slickw143 on Feb 5, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not forget Von wafer's tech
by Coolio12 on Feb 5, 2012 10:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That one was bogus though. You could see both him and Hansbrough weren't going to move out of the way of each other so they hit shoulders. After they hit, Wafer went to grab him so that he didn't fall
The refs still saw it necessary though to give a tech. I also think the refs were trying to get the game back under control. Good thing it didn’t cost us the game
"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom
by BigMac12111 on Feb 5, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, there was definitely some intent.
I think it was deserved. I think that the Dwight tech was the one that the refs should’ve let slip considering the situation. But he’s brought this reputation upon himself, unfortunately.
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Yeah, I agree that a foul should've been called before Dwight even caught the pass.
And the ref underneath should have been the one to make the call. But seriously, why argue w/ a guy if you’re going to the FT line? Stupid and is why he has the rep that he has.
3 game winning streak!
Keep them wins coming.
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by North of the South on Feb 5, 2012 1:25 AM EST reply actions
Excellent write up Mike
Excited to see that you are front page contributor, I’ve always valued your posts.
Two good games in a row for JRich . Hopefully Nelson can bounce back once he returns. If the Magic hold onto Dwight, I wonder how it effects chemistry post trade-deadline? Intuitively I’d say that the Magic could return to their previous form and compete heavily for the 3rd seed with Philly, Indiana, and Atlanta.
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Thanks very much...
…except that I forgot to include in the recap what happened with all the technical fouls… my bad. Thanks to magicfaninTN for bringing it to my attention.
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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 5, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
At last, a good win considering the circumstances.
I’ve been lucky enough to have missed most the Magic’s losses due to work. My thoughts are with you fellow OPPers and I hope we’ll get one over LA or even better the Heat next week.
It would be a great moral lifter and this team needs that right now.
Keep up the good work Mike.
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Oi vey...
That was in the top 3 ugliest games I’ve ever seen. Sloppy turnovers, badly missed bricks and airballs, inconsistent reffing which allowed Indiana to slap and claw at Magic players for most of the game and then start calling hand checks in the last few minutes, the technicals…. It was a mess. Still, it was nice to see the Magic show some toughness in a tough place and get a good W.
The third quarter run, to me, was fueled by defense and J-Rich. I remember three charges taken (2 by Ryan, 1 by Duhon in the open court), and our defensive rotations frustrated the Pacers even further, pressuring them into terrible shots at the end of the shot clock. J-Rich was 4-5 from the field in the quarter, including 2-2 from long range. This created some space for the offense, and the Magic actually got some buckets at the rim, going 4-5 from inside 10 feet in the quarter.
After that, it was, to be cliche, all guts and effort to hold on from there. The 4-point play from JJ was huge, and the block by J-Rich (J-Rich!?) to prevent an easy fast break layup was the kind of stuff we need from all the players on the floor. Oh, and Dwight buckling down and hitting FT’s at an acceptable clip helps too. It prevents the other team from going full-blown Hack-a-Dwight, which does mess up the flow of the game for us. Also, the extra few points were huge tonight, especially since we were giving away points with technicals all night.
Next week is another tough week. Hopefully, the team can handle this better than they did their last tough week.
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by slickw143 on Feb 5, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Earl Clark basically saved the game.
His deflected pass on the inbounds kept Hibbert from laying up an easy 2 when they were down 3 with something like 20 sec left. It was a heads up “little” play where he just got his hand in the passing lane. Those are the little things that we see great teams doing on a regular basis, but we don’t see much from the Magic.
Clark did the job on that play, and that TO for the Pacers is when it slipped away for them.
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by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 5, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't save "saved the game" in any way.
It was a nice play, and as you said, the kind of things that we need to see on a regular basis. But there were lots of plays of that quality or better throughout that second half that led to the victory. Indy would’ve been down 1 with 10 seconds left (they were inbounding with about 11 seconds).
Again, nothing to take away from Earl, because it was a good play at a clutch moment. But let’s not trivialize all the other good plays that led to the win in a really tough situation.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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The game was going away from the Magic near the end..
Our defense needs to step up in time… That’s why Earl needs to be implemented more. make stops/turnovers/rebounds.
I didn't say that it wasn't, nor that it wasn't a big play.
I just said it was one of several made by various players. Give credit where it’s due, especially to guys that we all have trashed (some more than others) at times like Ryan, Duhon, and J-Rich. They all made big defensive plays at times.
And defense isn’t our problem right now. Offense is. Earl’s a good player to insert for specific situations (i.e. a 3 or stretch 4 starts getting hot for the other team), but right now we need someone who can score buckets more than we need someone to get stops.
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Good win, considering the things going against the Magic last night.
- Missing their starting PG, giving them a PG rotation of Duhon and a D-Leaguer who’s been with the team ~3 days.
- Missing their main “big” reserve due to internal suspension
- Travel Schedule, flying in that morning because of the lack of hotel room (Superbowl in Indy)
- 2nd night of a back to back, which makes the Travel even worse.
All against a Pacers team that was 6-1 at home so far this season.
It was ugly, it was messy, it wasn’t pretty…but it got a much needed win before a really tough week (LAC, MIA, & PHI). It’s going to take some spirited play from this Magic team if they expect to get back up with MIA and ATL in the SouthEast, and next week will be the start of that road.
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by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 5, 2012 10:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
What a fantastic victory!
We overcame a lot—including terrible officiating. The league really needs to review that tape, and then they need to request the last 72 hours of phone records for official number 7. I would already have that guy on a plane to league headquarters.
I also love the rumor out of LA. Now if we can just add one more piece…..but I would hate to trade away JJ or Anderson.
Next week’s games are absolutely huge.
It could work against us since the Lakers were our best possible trading partner
and leverage against the Nets
Keep Hedo
it's like I said a long time ago..
Howard at his position is too Dominating, so the officials call the game to limit him. I wonder if Stern played a part in that…
Kobe screwed up, and the Lakers are off Dwight's list.
Sources claim he has informed them he will not sign in La.
Check realgm.com for info.
Here's one commenting on the whole situation.
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oh yeah, that stuff.
I thought it was a good rumor, not something that decreases our leverage even more.
Its crazy to me that a team that trades D-Will, or a team that trades Melo, or a team that trades Paul, all players who are considered by everyone except Shaq to be below Howard talent-wise, all got considerably more than we are going to get for him.
I don't think so
The Melo price skyrocketed because of a NY bidding war, so you have to keep that in perspective because it is not about the player as much as the competition which drives the market price. It all comes down to if the Lakers are willing to exhaust resources to get Dwight and if Dwight is still content with to go to the Lakers. A package built around Brook Lopez and draft picks however is very much on par with what the Hornets got and the Jazz got, with it being a little less than the CP3 deal and a little better than the Jazz deal. Reading this board though, Brook seems to be grossly undervalued. You guys are free to have your own opinion, I just that hope if you guys do get Brook you are more welcoming to an excellent player and good dude in Brook Lopez..
by SovietBrooklyn on Feb 5, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Good player and good dude? Sure.
However, last time I heard someone referred to as a “good dude”, it was Otis talking about Gilber right after the trade last year. No, what we’re saying is the Lopez as the centerpiece of a deal for Dwight is insulting, unless there’s a medley of other good stuff involved. Late first round picks and cap relief is nothing.
NOH got Minnesota’s 1st rounder (which might not be quite as good as expected, but still a lottery pick), a young SG with all-star talent, a lottery pick from the previous year, and Chris Kaman’s expiring contract. That’s talent, good draft picks, and cap relief. For a guard with an injury history (even if he is my favorite player in the league). Dwight’s a center who has missed 7 games in his entire career who’s dragged his team farther than CP3 has in the playoffs. Who’s being undervalued here?
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by slickw143 on Feb 5, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well I was referring to Brook being a good dude not to sell him on you, just saying why I hope he has a good relationship with Orlando fans. Dwight is not undervalued, it’s just that the market for him appears very limited because of his own desires. There is a very real possibility that a package built around Lopez, “crappy picks”, cap space, and likely a 3rd team will be the best package available. Maybe it isn’t the ideal for the talent you are giving up, but it is certainly better than letting him walk for nothing if it comes down to it, and at the end of the day it is a very good package for your organization. Brook Lopez is not Dwight Howard but he is a stud none the less.
by SovietBrooklyn on Feb 6, 2012 2:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Keep rationalizing your bias....
I am sure you would feel differently if the roles were reversed. Your proposed trade would hurt us; at least letting him walk would leave cap room for signing future free agents.
by Green Bull on Feb 6, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lopez might be a good dude
But he’s not an excellent basketball player. Maybe if he ever played defense…
by eltharion_doa on Feb 5, 2012 7:53 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wasn't this phone conversation thing news a couple of weeks ago?
Is this another phone call Kobe made to Howard. Sounds like the same things were said, and with the same outcome.
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by North of the South on Feb 5, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Haven't been around lately
But, congratulations Mike from Illinois on becoming a contributing writer! Always valued your massive amount of statistics here on OPP.
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Jerry West thinks like I do:
“If I were an executive on a team where a player says he’s going to leave, let him leave,” West said on 710 ESPN’s Max and Marcellus show earlier Thursday. "It would be better than saddling yourself with a bunch of players that are not going to fit in to what you’re trying to do — high-salaried players, in many cases overpaid players by today’s standards, that would burden you going forward.
“I’d almost rather start over again myself. You’re not going to replace that player, but there’s an enormous penalty there and it looks like to me like the inmates are running the asylum if you let that happen.”
the rest of the article here: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jerry-west-wants-teams-upset-trade-demanding-stars-192425528.html;_ylt=AhRdOo0KHwkfpBx9TQ8lbdm8vLYF
Sorry going off-topic.
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by North of the South on Feb 5, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
If Howard is traded
Nothing other than draft picks and prospects should come the other way. No overpaid middling talented guys like, say, Brook Lopez.
West is right in that respect.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
How can we get DeVos on board, is the real problem, apparently. This is where I might actually sort of somewhat (not really) feel for Otis. If management is seriously insisting on getting back borderline All-Stars to stay competitive (aka the Orlando Hawks), his hands are pretty much tied between that and the places Dwight will actually resign. Still, really his fault to begin with, I guess.
by nick_anderson on Feb 6, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with that assertion in principle.
However, as you know, there are advantages in dealing with under-the-cap teams which include salary dumping and cap relief. In a relative sense, if we are forced to take Lopez, that wouldn’t be too bad because his contract comes off the books, next year.
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Exactly.
Everyone thought Cleveland was dumb in hindsight last summer because all they got back was a trade exception. Well that trade exception allowed them to take on Baron Davis for a year, and they got a first round pick with it. Oh, and they also got Kyrie Irving because they sucked for a year. He’s having one of the best seasons ever, well surpassing rookie standards. He will make that team a playoff team by next season. Unless you get a cache of players like Utah did or Denver did, it really makes sense to just let the guy walk and blow the whole thing up.
by JeffShann3 on Feb 6, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to nitpick, but...
I think Kyrie came because they used the TPE to take on Davis plus the Clips draft pick that ended up being number 1. Cleveland took Tristan Thompson with their own number 4 pick. fwiw.
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by magicfaninTN on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I couldn't remember at the time which one they used to draft him, but that is correct.
But you obviously see how well that situation worked out for them. Hopefully w/ the right GM, we could do something similar.
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