John Hollinger's BAD Rating Traces Orlando Magic Struggles to Point-Guard Play
Coming off a first-round playoff exit, the Orlando Magic entered the 2011/12 season with modest expectations, and have mostly met them: their 19-11 record would put them on pace for 52 wins in an 82-game season, and they trail the Miami Heat by four games for the Southeast Division lead with 36 left to play.
There is, however, room for improvement on both sides of the ball. Orlando is tied with the Atlanta Hawks for the league's 13th-best offense, scoring 103.6 points per 100 possessions. It's not much more impressive defensively, ranking 12th by yielding 101.2 points per 100 possessions. On the whole, the Magic have the profile of a good team, but not one that presents much of a threat to the league's elite.
In his Thursday PER Diem column, ESPN analyst John Hollinger offers one explanation in particular for Orlando's good-but-not-great season: point-guard play. Hollinger introduced his Below Average Dependency (BAD) rating Thursday to explain how the New York Knicks managed to start winning once they began playing Jeremy Lin: the point guards he replaced in the rotation--namely Mike Bibby, Toney Douglas, and Iman Shumpert--were all well below replacement-level. When Lin took the majority of their minutes, the Knicks began a seven-game winning streak.
In Hollinger's words, BAD illustrates "how much non-production teams are getting from replacement-level or worse players." Overall, the Magic rank second in the league in BAD rating--only the Los Angeles Lakers are worse--and it's due largely to play at point guard.
Jameer Nelson, Chris Duhon, Ish Smith, and Larry Hughes all have a Player Efficiency Rating (PER) of below 12. As Hollinger calculates BAD by subtracting a player's PER from 12, and then multiplying it by the minutes that player has logged, having four players at one position tallying BAD points contributes to Orlando's poor showing in the league-wide BAD ratings. Importantly, the Magic have since waived Hughes, who had a -4.84 PER in 114 minutes.
But the news for Orlando isn't entirely grim: as Hollinger notes, adding a league-average point guard such as Ramon Sessions to its rotation would change its fortunes for the better.
Here's a look at the Magic players with sub-12 PERs, sorted by position, and how they affect the team in terms of BAD rating.
| Pos. | Player | PER | Mins | BAD |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| PG | Chris Duhon | 8.55 | 631 | 2176.95 |
| Larry Hughes | -4.85 | 114 | 1920.9 | |
| Jameer Nelson | 10.95 | 714 | 749.7 | |
| Ish Smith | 2.8 | 15 | 138 | |
| SF | Quentin Richardson | 6.49 | 359 | 1978.09 |
| PF | Glen Davis | 7.29 | 615 | 2896.65 |
| Earl Clark | 9.45 | 190 | 484.5 | |
| Justin Harper | -9.19 | 14 | 296.66 | |
| * statistics current through Thursday, February 16th, 2012 | ||||
Though Orlando's worst position overall, in terms of BAD rating, is point guard, its least productive individual player is power forward Glen Davis. However, power forward is less of a concern for Orlando, as it boasts Ryan Anderson in the starting role. Anderson's 23.25 PER ranks tops in the Eastern Conference and third in the NBA.
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Not surprising.
Duhon is Duhon (he hasn’t been so unbelievably bad this year, but he hasn’t done much positive either), and Jameer was mostly awful until he came back from his concussion. We could still use an upgrade there, but the position has stabilized in the last several games. If we could just get Glen Davis back on track…
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Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
I agree with you but even if they played good in recent games
and this team can roll with Duhon at the point, imagine what they would be capable of with a real PG. I know ain’t saying anything new but cotntrolling pace and space is so important for this team’s offense. In my eyes better than having a “finisher” (no Dwight I ain’t talking about you). I very scared to the thought that Hedo will run completly out of gaz come playoff time.
I didn’t realise that we were just 12th in the defense ranking. Depressing. As for big baby, I never liked the sign and I just hope he’ll prove me very wrong.
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This just shows why Liggins should get some minutes.
I am not talking 15 minutes just a small sample of maybe 4 minutes at the end of game it doesn’t make sense to guarantee a player’s salary if they are not helping you with the goal of winning.
Each year I hope the Warriors, Colts, Cavs, and the Magic get better yet the opposite happens.
He's Michael Pietrus.. a tweener SG/SF
definitely doesnt have the handle or passing ability for the PG position
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Feb 16, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
True but I hope he does or else we are screwed
post-Howard…
Each year I hope the Warriors, Colts, Cavs, and the Magic get better yet the opposite happens.
Not really.
Look, the guy is a late second round pick (that isn’t a point guard, by the way, unless you want to compare him to Jerryl Sasser or something), and late second round picks don’t have high success rates in the league. If he works out, then great, but if not, no big deal; he was a cheap investment. There are guys in the D’League who can sit at the end of the bench just as well next year.
If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.
That's not supriseing
Every Magic Fan has been saying this since Rafer left….
Can't stand the truth?
A lot of the Magic's team stats were brought down in that bad 5 losses in 6 games stretch
…especially on offense.
Not including that stretch, the Magic are 18-6, which is a .750 winning percentage. Only three NBA teams (Chicago, Miami, Oklahoma City) have a better than .750 percentage.
Chicago Blackhawks... defense and goaltending must get better
Chicago Bears... entering a new era with Phil Emery as GM
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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 16, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions
All right I got Evan on board with my Ramon Session's acquisition idea!
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
Anyone have any info on the brother of Liggins murder?
Each year I hope the Warriors, Colts, Cavs, and the Magic get better yet the opposite happens.
John Hollinger has been masterful in combining stats with maths, and BAD is another comniation of the two.
However, incorporating player’s stats into teams’ strength and weaknesses has always been problematic. While Magic’s offensive and defensive rankings are disappointing, we cannot contribute it all to PG plays since Hedo and J.J. also share some ball handling/distribution. In fact, an average of BAD for Jameer, Hedo and J.J. would be a better indicator where the Magic stands with regard to ball handling/distribution.
I have always thought that Hollinger’s team rankings – in the absence of a better measure of defensive strength – is a good combination of stats and maths, whereby Hollinger incorporates both offense and defense in his formula by way of “point differentials”. I haven’t checked Hollinger’s team ranking recently, and I am curious where the Magic stands. Recent wins against MIA and PHI with good differentials should have raised Magic’s stocks.
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I checked Hollinger's rankings, and Magic is at 10th place
but behind LAL and DEN which is odd … and there lies the imperfectness of mathematical formulas. I still think Hollinger’s rankings is about as good as it gets in combining offensive and defensive stats in a mathematical formula.
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Nelson has improved slightly since returning from concussion but he is still very far away from his prior averages.
G (6)
MPG (32.5)
FG% (.423)
3PT% (.318)
PPG (12.3)
APG (6.3)
TOV (1.7)
Over the recent six game span since returning from his concussion, Nelson is scoring at pretty much his career average PPG. But if you compare this six game span with his FG% and 3PT% career averages (not including this seasons numbers), he is shooting 43% below his career FG% (.466) and 72% below his career 3PT% (.390). He does seem to have gotten the turnover problem under control.
I think it's supposed to be 4.3% and 7.2% :)
"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom
I hate that this article came out after Jameer just had an amazing game.
Until recently in the season he’s been pretty bad though. His problem in the past hasn’t been that he’s a bad player per se. Just inconsistent. I’m hopeful that he’ll pick up his play as the season continues.
But we all know that an upgrade at the position would be fantastic. The problem is how to get that upgrade and who that would be. If Dwight was staying, obviously we could attempt to lure in D-Will next year somehow. But if Dwight is leaving then we should probably just do it through the draft.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
So how long before people start screaming for Allen Iverson.
Please leave a message, I'm busy hiding my cat from TGS.
Allennnnnn!!!!!!!
That didn’t take long, now did it?
What PER was GIL posting in Magic uniform last season?
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we still had Gil (instead of signing player from D league).
1070 mins at an 8.6 PER
for a 3636 BAD rating.
by Evan Dunlap on Feb 16, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, that sounds about right.
so BAD
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Which is why our team is better this year.
Addition by subtraction. Imagine if we didn’t have Glen Davis! Oh the places we’d go.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
If Orlando can get Nelson back up to a 15-16 PER
Which is his career typical production, this is a pretty dangerous team. An All-Star quality front court, two solid wings with diverse skill sets and a competent point guard. Throw in scoring off the bench and a couple of handy defenders…it’s a roster than can get hot.
But it needs Nelson to be Nelson, not Duhon-plus.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 17, 2012 3:41 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
Yeah I'd feel a lot better if we found an upgrade over Duhon
Not a swing for the fences December Otis splash, but just a reasonable upgrade.
Where petulance happens
Did we really need a new stat to know our PG situation is terrible right now?
Still hoping Nelson can get it going this year. That’s our best chance.

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