How Orlando could land Deron

by Leandro. on Jan 9, 2012 9:16 PM EST

It's a long shot, of course, but it COULD happen given certain conditions:

1) Orlando is having an awesome season being a top 3 team in the east. Ryan Anderson has a monster year averaging 18 ppg, 8 rebounds, 40% 3pt FG. Dwight is happy and while receiving the MVP trophy at the Allstar game he says he is staying with the Magic.

2) Meanwhile New Jersey is awful, losing to the Kings and Wizards. Deron is fed up, loses interest and get booed.

3) Deron Williams is recruited by DH and is willing to play in Orlando in order to win.

4) Deron tells the Net he is leaving after the season

5) Andrew Bynum stays healthy and have a great year.

So now the Nets have to choose: let him walk without getting anything or trading him for whatever they can get. No team would give them good assets if Williams is not committed to signing with them, so they would have to trade him to Orlando for whatever we have to offer.

Of course it's not that easy, the Nets could always play chicken with Williams. If they don't trade him to Orlando he would lose millions signing for the midlevel exception as a free agent (something he won't do, of course).

But they know they are losing him anyway, so they better get something in return. What else is in the market? Basically what it was offered for CP3. The Nets would have no interest in Houston oldies like Scola, in Pau Gasol or Amare. They need someone to build around for the next years. Andrew Bynum would be ideal, but the Lakers are not trading a young 7 footer which averages (in this scenario) 20 ppg, 15 rebs and 2 blocks, for a PG. You don't trade big for small. Are the Warrios willing to give up Stephen Curry for a 3 month rental of Williams? I doubt it.

So then, Orlando could offer Ryan Anderson + stuff for Deron. If Ryan posts 18-8-40% 3pts during the season this deal is not worse than Lopez for Howard. Anyway, the deal hasn't to be fair, it just have to be the best deal AVAILABLE. A young big guy who can shoot the 3 and rebound is a great asset. And we all know how the Nets fans appreciate players with "potential".

But then the question would be: if Orlando is a top 3 team in the east, would you disrupt the chemistry, and send an almost irreplaceable young talent (Dirk and not many more can shoot the 3 and rebound while being 6'10 or taller) for a smaller player with character issues?

I guess I would, the possible payoff is worth the risk.

NOTE:

1) I am not saying this can happen today. IT CAN'T.

2) I am just saying that if a long list of things happens this year, which is highly unlikely, then, and only then we COULD have a chance to get Deron.

This FanPost was made by a member of the Orlando Pinstriped Post community, and is to be treated as the opinions and views of its author, not that of the blogger or blog community as a whole.

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It's fun to fantasize sometimes

but please don’t fool yourself into thinking this is ever going to happen. Worst case scenario for the Net’s is they lose him to Dallas as a FA, there is no way they trade him to Orlando and there is no way Williams signs for a mid level exception.

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by malenko on Jan 9, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions

Of course it's fun to fantasize. This is 95% unlikely to happen.

But if there is some way Orlando could land Deron, this is it. Long, long shot of course. As I stated, Deron would lose a LOT of money if he signed here for the midlevel, that’s NJ leverage. But if I am them I’d get Ryan rather than let him walk to Dallas without nothing in return. If Dwigh threatens to leave and they say Lopez for Dwight makes sense, then a solid Anderson can get Deron.

by Leandro. on Jan 9, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions

Of course it’s not that easy, the Nets could always play chicken with Williams. If they don’t trade him to Orlando he would lose millions signing for the midlevel exception as a free agent.

Otis, that you? Deron would be sacrificing over 10 million dollars a year in your scenario. This is a guy who was the first player in the NBA to have a European deal lined up for the lockout. He’s all about his money. ORL has no leverage since they couldn’t sign him as a free agent. DAL could potentially land Deron like this though.

by William_H_HOLLA on Jan 9, 2012 11:50 PM EST reply actions

I NEVER MEANT TO SAY HE WOULD SIGN HERE FOR THE MIDLEVEL

That quote is supposed to mean NJ telling Williams “You want to go to Orlando? Fine, wait for the end of the season and sign for the midlevel.” Thats NJ leverage, if they don’t trade him to his prefered destination Deron would lose crazy money, so he might have to agree signing somewhere else. If other teams are not offering anything good because Deron won’t make a long term commitment with them, then Orlando gets a shot at him.

by Leandro. on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 AM EST up reply actions

No way Orlando is a top 3 team in the east!

Right now, we lost both 2 matches we play versus playoff-caliber team.
Chicago and Miami are better than us, probably Boston, Indiana and Philly too.
Landing Williams will be wonderful for us, but unfortunately I think it’s only just a dream…

by MagicLight on Jan 10, 2012 3:22 AM EST reply actions

This fanpost was just in response to that rumor based on "sources" of Dwight saying he wants to play in Orlando and is recruiting Deron.

If the rumor were to be true, my scenario is the way it could happen. Is it unlikely Orlando will finish as a top 3 in the East? Yeah, but not impossible. Can Ryan Anderson post his current averages for the rest of the season? Unlikely but not impossible. Can D. Williams be tempted to play in a better team with a good owner? He never said he was resigning with the Nets, so why not. The scenario for this trade is unlikely, but not impossible.

by Leandro. on Jan 10, 2012 7:32 AM EST up reply actions

If the Magic still had Gortat and Bass to package with Nelson and Anderson…then trading for a guy like Williams might be possible…

But Nelson, Anderson, Davis and Orton wont land Deron

by Chris3035 on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions

HAHAHAHAHA LOLOLOLOL ROFL LMFAO

That is all.

by bettacalltyrone on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions

"So, you're telling me there's a chance?"-Lloyd Christmas

by TheOtherWhiteMeat on Jan 10, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

what would you guys give the nugs in trade 4? a package of harrington,birdman,brewr&fernandez

by ice357 on Jan 10, 2012 2:18 PM EST reply actions

Why would we trade with the Nuggets?

"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom

by BigMac12111 on Jan 10, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

It's funny because last year at the trade deadline, I was definitely rosterbating about having Chris Anderson, Corey Brewer, and Rudy Fernandez on the Magic

Anderson would have given some needed height; Brewer some needed perimeter defense to compliment Dwight’s interior defense, and Rudy would make the Orlando ladies swoon. Unfortunately, this year with the Magic probably losing Dwight, there is little point for any of those players (plus it looks like Anderson is seriously regressing).

If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.

by funny80sguy on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions

NJ Nets are terrible...

But lets give them some credit.

They have NOT in fact lost to Sacramento OR Washington as you stated.

Heck they haven’t even played Sacramento yet this year, though they have played and beaten Washington…. one of only two wins of season (the other being Toronto).

So yeah, they suck.

But not as bad as Washington.

For what its worth, Orlando doesn’t necessarily need to trade NJ to get Williams. Looks like Orlando has roughly 70 Million committed in salary for next year. That includes Dwight’s 20 Million so they could trade players like JJ, Jameer, JRich to teams w/ salary cap space and clear them off the books. That could take them down to around 50 Million and if the cap is at say 60 Million that might be enough to entice Williams or another free agent.

by mdg999 on Jan 10, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions

Exactly we can get under the cap!!

But Otis has to know Dwight is comited and Deron would come here. I suspect Dwight is gone to LA after all star break unless we can start beating the playoff teams. It’s so disappointing to play teams like the bulls and one or two guys don’t show up and we lose. Compound that with play from Lou deng having a resurgence against the magic (eg meer and jrich). I love meer but man he must be hiding a shoulder injury he is noticeably not shooting layups and passes only.

by OrlLove on Jan 10, 2012 7:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions