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Orlando Magic 103, Washington Wizards 85

Dominant performances from Dwight Howard and Ryan Anderson propeled the Orlando Magic to an easy 103-85 victory against the Washington Wizards on Wednesday night at Amway Center. Howard scored an effortless 28 points on 11-of-13 shooting, grabbed 20 rebounds, and blocked three shots in the victory. Anderson added 23 points and 15 rebounds--just one shy of his career-high--in just 28 minutes as the pair combined to make mincemeat of the Wizards' bigs. Howard and Anderson had more than three times as many rebounds as their counterparts, Washington center JaVale McGee and power forward Andray Blatche.

The key word on the night was "energy." Magic coach Stan Van Gundy didn't like what he saw from his club in Monday's loss to the Detroit Pistons, and so he emphasized the importance of opening Wednesday's game with plenty of energy to match the Wizards' speed and youth.

Jameer Nelson and Jason Richardson, two particular targets of Van Gundy's, got the message loud and clear. Though they continued to struggle with their shots, they found other ways to contribute: Nelson dished nine assists to just two turnovers, while Richardson added four boards and five assists. Further, Richardson scored the game's first five points as Orlando made a concerted effort to involve him early; in this way, Van Gundy's usage of him recalls how he used Rashard Lewis in previous seasons.

For what it's worth, Lewis, now playing for Washington, wasn't impressed with the Magic's energy. "I know that Orlando Magic team and they played pretty well," he said, "but they did not play near as hard as they should have. The game was easy for them tonight."

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Team Pace Efficiency eFG% FT Rate OReb% TO Rate
Wizards 92.0 92.4 37.6% 16.1 27.5 9.8
Magic 92.0 111.9 50.6% 20.0 36.2 16.1
Green denotes a stat better than the team's 2010/11 average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's 2010/11 average.

It was Howard, however, who really set the tone for the game during that opening quarter. Orlando's franchise player shot 4-of-4 from the floor for 10 points, and went essentially untouched on all of his scores. Credit Orlando for moving the ball and finding ways to get Howard open, but the Wizards' suspect defense played as much a role in Howard's success as anything else. The best executed play, I thought, came when Nelson drove the lane from the wing, kept his dribble alive along the baseline, and then turned to the rim to fire a perfect lob to Howard for a jam. When on the attack like this, Nelson can effectively trick some defenses into paying attention to him and losing track of Howard.

The Wizards' defensive execution left plenty to be desired. How they managed to utterly blow their coverage of Howard in the first period, while also managing to commit a defensive three-second violation for overloading the strong side during a Glen Davis post-up, is beyond me.

Orlando continued to cruise despite iffy shooting from everyone apart from Howard, Anderson, and Hedo Turkoglu. It secured the blowout thanks to its defense, and the Wizards' own poor shot selection. Washington elected to play one-on-one offense for much of the night, resulting in 12 assists on 34 baskets. John Wall and Nick Young, its two main sources of offense, combined to shoot 11-of-31 from the floor and opened the game 0-of-11. One gets the sense that Washington plays better defense against itself than its opponents do.

Anderson continues to make a strong case for All-Star consideration, but he did so Wednesday evening in a different manner than usual. Instead of camping out behind the three-point line and firing away whenever teams sag off him to check Howard, he played all over the floor. Washington wasn't keen on leaving him open, so he had to get his own shots by crashing the offensive glass and running the floor during the fast break. Van Gundy noted he was pleased that Anderson took just five three-pointers to 11 two-pointers against the Wizards. "Ryan's a helluva shooter," Van Gundy said. "I just don't want him to pigeonhole himself into that being all he is, because he can do a lot of other things."

Apart from some silly turnovers--Howard got whistled for two three-second violations, and on both occasions Davis' tardiness in shooting led to the call--the Magic played solidly offensively. They got to wherever they wanted to, made mostly sound passes, and took shots within the flow of the offense. Further, they rebounded an extraordinary share of their own misses (36.2 percent), giving them numerous second chances to score. Anderson's seven boards paced the team in the offensive rebounding department. "[We] just came out with a little more focus to crash the offensive glass," he said.

Only when Van Gundy emptied his bench did the Magic's offense tank; unsurprisingly, the lineup featuring Larry Hughes and Von Wafer at the guards, Quentin Richardson and Justin Harper at the forwards, and Earl Clark at center fizzled at the offensive end. In the 3:28 that unit played, the Wizards outscored the Magic 10-3; Orlando's lone basket came on a long three-pointer from Richardson.

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Poor little Wizards

They never stood a chance.

Listen to them, the children of the night. What sweet music they make.

by Gatorbuc15 on Jan 4, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, the Magic let up a bit as soon as they got the big lead.

And while I wouldn’t say I like to see that, I will say this: with 66 games scheduled across 4 months, you’re going to see a lot more letting up early in blowouts across the league. And the teams who can’t win blowouts or refuse to let up will probably start looking awfully frayed around the edges come April.

It's on like Gregg Zaun!

by 3.3seconds on Jan 4, 2012 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

I was bummed when they took out the starters...

I wanted 50% off at papa johns. I don’t think we’re gonna get 110 against Chicago :(

by Colossus57 on Jan 4, 2012 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Evan, the Nelson lob you mention actually came off of a howard post up and hand off.

Nice to see this play, as players always cut through Howard’s post ups, but never get the hand off. Tonight, it happened twice – once on the lob and once for a JJ jumper.

by TragicMatt on Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight's been handing it off a lot this season.

But I don’t remember them executing it much in the past, except to Matt Barnes.

by TheJesus on Jan 5, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

They've actually been running that play a little differently sometimes, too

They will have JJ feed from the wing and go running towards the baseline. If his defender tries to go through the lane to meet him on the other side, Dwight will hand back to JJ for a 14-foot baseline jumper. While “long 2s” are anathema to SVGs system, a wide open JJ is pretty efficient from there and it has worked a number of times.

What’s great about this is if JJs man attempts to follow him along the baseline Dwight just keeps the ball and the play continues as a post up.

It really is a great new wrinkle that gives the Magic more options to score by bending the “rules” of SVGs sets in a completely acceptable way.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like how Turk and Jameer handled the ball this game.

They combined for 17 assists with only 5 TO. They also made a concerted effort to get the lob to Dwight working which is the one thing the offense has been missing imo: a different dimension and something the defense has to be afraid of and guard. Great game by the Magic and hopefully they can keep it going into the Chicago game

"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom

by BigMac12111 on Jan 4, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

A dominant first quarter for the Magic

The Wizards missed their first 12 shots of the game en route to shooting 6 of 28 (21.4%) in that first quarter, while the Magic shot 11 of 18 (61.1%) on their way to a 31-14 lead after one.

For the game, the Wizards’ starters combined to shoot a collective 21 of 61 (34.4%) for just 53 points, 22 rebounds, and 7 assists. The Magic starters shot a collective 31 of 55 (56.4%) for 80 points, 47 rebounds, and 24 assists.

This was the 15th game of Dwight Howard’s career that he has scored at least 25 points along with at least 20 rebounds in a game, and his 11 of 13 (84.6%) FG shooting was one of the best shooting games of his career with a minimum of 12 shots taken.

This was the sixth game of Ryan Anderson’s career that he has scored at least 20 points in a game along with at least ten rebounds. Five of those games have come within the last year.

On the negative side, Glen Davis continues to struggle with his shooting. His 2 for 10 shooting night now puts him at 21 of 63 (33.3%) for the season.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 5, 2012 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

seriously

Glen is starting to make me worry. His game just seems off and it’s continued from last year with boston.

by Lil J on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i think its just a case of the VAN GUNDU yealy sucking

it really takes a year and now i believe this, i.e. Duhon, Bass, Anderson, Q…………

by Magical-OverHauL on Jan 5, 2012 6:01 AM EST up reply actions  

SVG needs to keep the ball out of his hands when he's between 15-18 ft.

I said this in the game thread as well, but he can’t seem to help himself at jacking up those shots when his back foot is touching the 3-pt line. It’s the most inefficient shot in the game, and worse, he’s bad at shooting it. From outside the 3-pt line he’s reluctant to shoot, and a decent passer to get the ball to a handler. From inside 15ft he can make the shot, post up, or do his acobatic craziness.

SVG needs to readjust some plays so that if Davis is going to get the ball, it’ll be outside that zone. Not every play obviously, but some of the set plays if Davis is on the floor might be worth tweaking.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 5, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He should get better with practice.

After all, he’s putting up 4.7 shots per game in the 16-23ft range. That’s lots of practice.

/sarc

And shooting a whopping 30%.

"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter

by magicfaninTN on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, now!

It’s not easy to create 20 rebounds for Dwight and 15 for Ryan. Someone has got to be creating rebounds for those guys to grab.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That was Washington's job.

Really, the only job they executed correctly.

It's on like Gregg Zaun!

by 3.3seconds on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

troubling stat...I love the intangibles he brings but the bad shots have to stop

he’s just forcing things right now and trying to make an impact by shooting rather than by doing the little things that make him a key component to a contending team.

Hopefully Howard and SVG will make him clearly understand what his role is on this team.

by MagicLA on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He is just trying real hard to fit in.

And in the process, he is not being himself, which is a big part of the problem. We didn’t brought him in because of his offense, but it takes time for defensive efforts to be recognized, and him being a new player on the team, who wants to impress both his new coach and his new teammates, and potentially even get that starting spot at power forward position, I completely understand why is he so desperately trying to be a scorer. Davis just needs to relax a bit, go back to what he is good at, and he will be just fine, I’m sure.

by Mr. Hyde on Jan 6, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm glad at least he's got an understanding of what it is we want from him.

Hopefully he’ll make good on this statement.

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by malenko on Jan 5, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy Win was easy

Now for the Bulls to see if we stand up to the eastern competition.

by Lil J on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think he meant it that way

I think he was saying the Wizards should have forced the Magic to play harder by being more competitive. Since they didn’t, the game was “too easy” for the Magic.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Rashard was basically ripping the effort and attitude of his own team.

As EnnBee said, I believe he was making the comment about the Magic’s effort to highlight just how bad the Wizards’ effort is. Washington has the absolute worst team culture in the league. A decent amount of talent, but Nick Young, Andray Blatche, and JaVale McGee are notorious for their attitudes. If they don’t watch it, it might rub off on Wall.

Rashard is doing his best to keep these young guys in line, but I doubt it’ll work. Too much concentrated bad energy. I feel bad for Rashard, and I dislike Otis even more for banishing such a professional guy to this mess.

"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07

by slickw143 on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Oh, now I understand

I totally misinterpreted the comment when I first heard it.

by Tim333 on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he had a good game. I think.

I don’t remember when was the last time I saw him dunk of an offensive rebound, that is for sure.

by Mr. Hyde on Jan 6, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It was nice seeing more allyoops to Dwight

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 5, 2012 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

Ryan Anderson and Hedo Turkoglu

make this team feel like a better version of the ’09 Magic… especially with the way Redick is playing coming off the bench…hopefully J Rich gets his shooting % up, but it was nice to see him contribute in other categories…Nelson also played better, but I think he can still do better… and Glen Davis needs to stop shooting the ball so much and stop taking long 2s

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 5, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

For me I can't even compare this team to the '09 team until we play some better teams

In ‘09 it didn’t matter who we played, even against the elite teams if Orlando was having an off night and fell behind in the first half you just knew they would make a run and probably win or at least make it a close game. I still don’t have that kind of faith in this team yet that if they fall behind against a great team that they can pull out the W.

Please leave a message, I'm busy hiding my cat from TGS.

by malenko on Jan 5, 2012 4:40 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

and I still think we need a backup centre.

by isum on Jan 5, 2012 5:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I cant believe ewe dont have a backup big, its really getting rediculous now, imagine how much better we would be if we didnt suck everytime Howard came out, if we could just be ok instead of suck it would be much better

by Magical-OverHauL on Jan 5, 2012 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if someone can get some stats.

I’d be curious what the actual numbers are for when Howard is out of the game for this year. Obviously the Magic won’t be as good as having the greatest Center in the game on the floor — but I wonder if they really do “suck” when he’s not in.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?year=2011-2012&id=149

On / Off Offensive Rating: 113.29 / 102.91
On / Off Defensive Rating: 97.43 / 106.60

Net unadjusted difference: 19.55

Not pretty. But small sample size.

"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter

by magicfaninTN on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming Defensive Rating is lower = better?

Because I can’t imagine that the defense is better with Howard on the bench.

Interesting numbers…but also interesting is that according the same measures, Anderson and Turk are current more “important” to the Magic’s performance:

Anderson:
On/Off ORtg: 120.41 / 94.71
On/Off DRtg: 99.42 / 98.96
Net Difference: 25.24

Turk:
On/Off ORtg: 117.46 / 98.87
On/Off DRtg: 96.64 / 98.87
Net Difference: 26.48

Again, small sample size…but also:

J-Rich:
On/Off ORtg: 110.57 / 112.44
On/Off DRtg: 104.50 / 90.55
Net Difference: -15.82

JJ:
On/Off ORtg: 110.14 / 112.60
On/Off DRtg: 95.42 / 103.60
Net Difference: 5.72

In certain situations, such as against less athletic SGs coupled with a back-to-back, it might be worth it to bump JJ into the starting lineup to give J-Rich some rest. Gives JJ more minutes, which is good since he’s been more consistant than J-Rich anyways. Gives J-Rich some added rest by limiting his minutes on a tough road trip or whatever, while also building some confidence by tearing up some opposing bench players.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, lower is better on defensive rating

The offensive number is points scored on vs off. The defensive is points allowed.

The interesting thing about these numbers, even with the small sample size, is how they are what you’d expect.

With Dwight, the team is worse by about 10 points on each end of the floor.
For Anderson, the difference comes entirely on the offensive end of the floor while pretty much being a wash on defense.
With Turk, the upside is all on offense while the team is slightly better on defense when he’s not playing.

The real surprise is how JRich is a negative on both ends (but dramatically more so on defense) while JJ is actually a negative on offense but a decent positive on the defensive end of the floor.

Still, small sample sizes, but always good to keep an eye on.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Numbers like these always need to consider the 5 man units.

In other words, especially at these sample sizes, one needs to consider who JJ and Jrich are on the floor with before drawing firm conclusions. ie. if you’re on the floor w/ Dwight your DRtg is going to be lower, etc.

"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter

by magicfaninTN on Jan 5, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely

I was just noting they make sense. Also, my guess would be JRich plays more with Dwight than JJ, but I could very easily be wrong.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

But then also

110 points per 100 possessions is a really good number. 112 is a little better, sure, but I think what we can take away from this is that the offense is good with JJ AND with Richardson so far.

(But yeah, Richardson plays more with the starters, so he benefits from that despite a slow start to the season. And JJ plays more with the backups, so that holds him back even though he’s been awesome through the first 7 games.)

It's on like Gregg Zaun!

by 3.3seconds on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's pretty crazy when you consider the 5 man units. If you scroll down it gives the different units that have been used and their ratings

Starter’s Rtgs: Off Rtg Def Rtg
With JJ 190.91 55.00
With J-Rich 106.84 105.0
It does have to be noted though that the line-up with JJ has only had about 1/6 as many possessions as the starting line-up, but that should have been expected.

Bench’s* Rtgs: Off Rtg Def Rtg
With JJ 129.17 82.61
With J-Rich 66.67 100.0
*Since we have an 8-man rotation and JJ is one of our bench players, I used the “Bench” line-up as one with Duhon and Davis in place for Jameer and Dwight
JJ with the bench line-up had about 7 times as many possessions as J-Rich with the same line-up, but that, again, should have been expected.

From both line-ups, JJ’s units have the superior ratings especially with Dwight on the floor. But what really surprises me is how low the offensive rating is for the line-up with J-Rich in with the bench and how it differs with the line-up with JJ in it. Crazy.

"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom

by BigMac12111 on Jan 5, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow!

Again, small sample size, but those 5 man unit numbers are insane. It’s hard to believe the numbers can be so different – especially JJ with the starting unit. A net +135 when JJ is on the floor?

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 6, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice work by BigMac12111.

With JJ being on fire and J-Rich in slump, the small sample size magnifies the difference which would not be the case in a larger sample size.

by Matt1325 on Jan 6, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You know what doesn't surprise me?

That J-Rich’s units are worse across the board. He is not a good player anymore, and yet we get to have him for 4 more years.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 6, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that at $6.25M a year, J-Rich's contract is unmovable.

His contract, in my view, is more movable than Davis’ contract. Ironically, they both are slumping but if Dwight leaves, the movability of either contract could become an issue.

by Matt1325 on Jan 6, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate writing this,

but while you’re right that it’s not the most unmovable contract on the team, having mediocre players on disproportionate contracts makes it more likely that Dwight sees no hope and leaves. Then, like you said, that contract is a lot less movable. And besides, just because a contract is technically movable doesn’t make it a good contract; even Gilbert Arenas’s and Rashard Lewis’s contracts proved tradable. J-Rich and Davis will likely have to be flipped for equally bad contracts.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 8, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

I don't get the whole 'pop-tart cats pooping rainbows thing,' but then, I'm old. So, there it is.

by Redfield on Jan 6, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So true. I like J-Rich when he's agressive but it seems that he can't play a full game at that level anymore

And when he’s not doing well on offense he’s not worth having in the game imo. If he can somehow get a solid jumpshot going for him I have no problem having him moved to the bench but if he keeps playing at this rate he’s just useless to our team.

"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom

by BigMac12111 on Jan 6, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

Especially about the “building some confidence” part.

by Mr. Hyde on Jan 6, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

can't believe the bk up center hasn't been addressed yet

Davis can fill in vs crappy teams but not against good teams plus we are one injury away from disaster and its forcing Dwight to play big minutes again

…i’m much more comfortable with Hedo running the point as back up PG than Clark, Orton or Harper playing major minutes at PF/C….Hughes roster spot needs to be replaced with a big body asap

by MagicLA on Jan 5, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Dwight has missed like 3 games his entire career due to injury/fatigue

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say resting him (at this stage of his career) is not a problem we need to worry about. Let the horse run.

by JeffShann3 on Jan 5, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It will be if there is an injury - and Dwight is not the one that is a concern.

Anderson is playing nearly 10 more minutes a game than he ever has and vs better starting quality players. Davis is playing vs bigger players with over half of his minutes at C. Pair these increased physical loads with this seasons crazily packed schedule and you just highly increased chances of injury and late season fatigue.

It would be naive to not factor in and prepare for that specially for a team who is looking to go deep in the playoffs. Who’s filling in if there is an injury (specially to Davis)? Orton, Clark, Harper?

by MagicLA on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Davis or Anderson is especially injury-prone.

Neither has a history of injuries. Both are relatively young, relatively sturdy-looking, and not prone to risky athletic moves on the court.

If we wanted a fourth big man, we’d be looking for a post defense and rebounding specialist, because Davis/Anderson up front isn’t going to do that. And yeah, it’s not urgent, but 10-12 minutes a game is an entire quarter. It would be nice.

It's on like Gregg Zaun!

by 3.3seconds on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not just injury - foul trouble is a very big issue.

It has been for Davis and Howard all through their careers. Both of them have defensive/rebounding games that require aggressive play. If either are in foul trouble they are limited – but if both are in foul trouble the entire Magic defense and rebounding will suffer greatly.

Seriously this roster has gone without a legit backup C in the rotation since the Gortat trade a year ago. Either Otis has swung and missed on potential back ups – or the reason he has overstocked the team with perimeter players instead of adding a big probably means that is where he is planning to make a trade move from.

by MagicLA on Jan 6, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the premises of adding a back-up center although the urgency could be debated both positively and negatively, at the moment.

More opportunities may arise as teams get set in the season and waive players which they don’t need anticipating future trades. A competent GM would keep his eyes and ears open to jump on such opportunities before others do. The uncertainty of Dwight’s situation, however, adds its own wrinkles to the situation.

by Matt1325 on Jan 6, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The alley oops are important, but...

I don’t think I’ve ever seen this team have a worse conversion percentage on them than this year. At times it feels like they are as efficient as a Glen Davis 20-footer.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Off topic

are we still shooting to get AI or did that just turn to dust.

by Lil J on Jan 5, 2012 3:11 AM EST reply actions  

With what?

Pretend you’re the Sixers’ GM when Otis calls.

"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter

by magicfaninTN on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Allen Iverson? Surely, you're kidding

"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 5, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The other AI: Andre Igoudala

If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.

by funny80sguy on Jan 5, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It was sarcasm on my part

"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"

by 4QB on Jan 5, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, this is sadness on my part

Because Allen Iverson was actually the first person to pop into my mind when I saw the initials, and I wanted to spare others from the embarrassment. I see now that I have only shamed myself further.

If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.

by funny80sguy on Jan 5, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I was pleased to see Jordan Crawford

doing his best 2011 Gilbert Arenas impression

by waleo on Jan 5, 2012 8:29 AM EST reply actions  

Davis is a problem

He needs to get himself sorted out. Otherwise a solid game, against admittedly awful competition.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 5, 2012 9:10 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Man, the Wizards are really bad.

I seriously was stunned at how poorly they played on both ends of the floor.

Not sure if this was a good thing or bad. Clearly it was good to have a rebound game from Detroit, but I don’t know if having so little resistance was a good thing either. Hopefully we have our mindset right going into Friday’s game against the Bulls. Getting a win against Chicago would be huge at this stage since we’re trying to keep pace with the rest of the league.

The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy

by cgsimone on Jan 5, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I hope they don't get over confident

But it’s always important to have a little swagger.

Besides, the Bulls and Wizards are at such opposite ends, I don’t think anyone would think beating one would mean the other is easier, though it might give you enough confidence to be less likely to feel defeated if things go poorly at the start.

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering why we don't start using Daniel Orton

Has he not recovered from knee injuries yet or does SVG still believe that Orton is still too inexperienced to make a positive impact on the team?

by gocoldturkey on Jan 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Too inexperienced.

I think Evan posted a stat on how much Orton has actually played…it’s like 2 D-League games and ~500 minutes of college ball. That’s it.

He’s got talent and can do ok during throw-away time in a preseason game (though LeBron was on the floor)…but he’s simply not ready to play in a regular season game against NBA players — even backup Cs.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

As such, I think Orton needs to spend some time in the D-League for practice.

I know Otis likes to develop players in house by having them at practice, but Orton needs playing time. Disagree with Otis here (well, I disagree with Otis on just about everything except waiting to trade Dwight).

Orton is already inactive and can be recalled if needed.

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by magicfaninTN on Jan 5, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If this was a normal season he would get to a lot of practice vs the best center in the world.

But this season practices are few and far between – he needs to get some game time minutes in somehow…he has very little real game experience:

• He had a season ending injury early in his senior year in high school

• He played one season as a back up to Cousins at Kentucky:
38 GP
13.2 MPG
(48-91) .527 FG%
3.3 RPG

• Had season ending injury after 2 games in the D League:
21 MPG
(4-9) .445 FG%
4 RPG

by MagicLA on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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