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Orlando Magic 102, Indiana Pacers 83

The Orlando Magic rebounded from the worst offensive performance in their history with a convincing 102-83 defeat of the Indiana Pacers on Tuesday night, one in which Dwight Howard became Orlando's all-time leading scorer and the team handed the hosts their first home loss of the season. At the 9:59 mark of the third, Howard darted down the lane, took a pass from--who else?--Hedo Turkoglu, and threw down a dunk on Roy Hibbert to bring his career scoring total to 10,561, one ahead of Nick Anderson on Orlando's franchise list.

Howard had an otherwise pedestrian game, finishing with 14 points and nine rebounds, but his teammates did more than their fair share to help Orlando knock off Indiana. Ryan Anderson, who missed all eight of his shot attempts in the Magic's 31-point loss to the Boston Celtics on Monday, led all scorers with 24 points on 8-of-14 shooting, while Turkoglu had 11 points and eight assists. The second unit came up big as well, as J.J. Redick scored 15 points and Glen Davis played a sound all-around game, with 14 points and five rebounds on 4-of-6 shooting.

Hibbert and Danny Granger led the Pacers with 16 points apiece, but combined to shoot 10-of-29 from the field with three turnovers. Indiana played sloppily, committing 19 turnovers, the most for a Magic opponent during the 2011/12 season, which Orlando converted into 20 points.

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Team Pace Efficiency eFG% FT Rate OReb% TO Rate
Magic 89.7 113.7 53.6% 15.7 28.9 15.6
Pacers 89.7 92.5 41.7% 23.1 30.8 21.2
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Though the final score might indicate otherwise, the game wasn't always Orlando's to lose: Indiana shot 57.8 percent in the first 12 minutes, with Granger and Hibbert nearly outscoring Orlando by themselves, with 20 points to the Magic's 22. But Orlando dialed up the defensive pressure over the final three periods, limiting the Pacers to 54 points on 20-of-59 (33.9 percent) shooting.

Orlando, on the second night of a back-to-back, dealt the second-best team in the East its first home loss of the season despite getting only four points on 2-of-12 shooting from its starting backcourt of Jason Richardson and Jameer Nelson; this much bodes well for it going forward, and perhaps eases concerns its 56-point outing against the Celtics the night earlier raised. This team is perhaps deeper and better than initially expected. We'll find out one way or the other soon enough: the Magic enjoy an off day Wednesday before playing four games in the next five nights, including rematches with Boston and Indiana, as well as their first meeting of the season with the Philadelphia 76ers.

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Great game by the Magic. Glen played great and I'm so glad Ryan bounced back from the Boston game

Magic played great with Dwight in foul trouble for most of the 1st half. If they can keep playing great team ball, this team is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

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by BigMac12111 on Jan 24, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

Loved ball movement today

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by 4QB on Jan 24, 2012 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Good win, but

Jameer and J-Rich continue to look terrible. Right now I would say the Magic have the worst backcourt in the NBA that isn’t part of an overall terrible team. I can’t think of the last time Redick didn’t outplay Richardson.

Anderson is really great, though. Though I’m not so excited to have some other team offer him crazy money this offseason, forcing the Magic to match and pay him crazy money too.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 24, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I know...

What’s it say about the state of our backcourt when JJ and Duhon were By Far the most productive backcourt pairing for the game? I’m a supporter of both of those guys, but no way they should be the most productive pairing in any game for any NBA team

by dukenilnil on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A dominant final three quarters from the Magic

They outscored Indiana 80-54 in that span.

The Magic played well offensively against one of the top defenses in the NBA. In the second half, the Magic scored 57 points on 21 of 43 FG shooting, including 8 of 17 on threes.

The Pacers’ offense had been mediocre all season, averaging 93.2 PPG on just 41.9% shooting. They fell short of those numbers against the Magic.

The Pacers had only 8 assists for the game. This was only the fourth time in the last 27 years that Indiana has had no more than 8 assists in a game.

This was only the seventh game in Magic franchise history that the opposition had no more than 8 assists in a game.

Magic reserves J.J. Redick (27 minutes) and Chris Duhon (25 minutes) both played more minutes than backcourt starters Jason Richardson (21 minutes) and Jameer Nelson (24 minutes).

Redick and Duhon combined to outscore J-Rich and Nelson 23-4.

One of the most pleasant surprises of the Magic season has been the emergence of Duhon as a legitimate backup PG, especially with Nelson being so inconsistent.

Congrats to D12 on becoming the Magic’s all-time franchise scoring leader!

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 24, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

yea

its nice to see Duhon playing well finally..he might be fighting Nelson for starter minutes pretty soon…i never thought i’d say those words

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 25, 2012 4:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont get why Duhon can't do this more consistently

with performances like tonight, and a couple past games, he’s capable of averaging 6-7ppg and 3-4apg

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 25, 2012 5:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

He did average over that before he came here. Confidence and freedom

by dukenilnil on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Is it telling that in the last 2 seasons

All 4 PG on the team have had confidence, playing issues? Jameer, Duhon, Agent zero, and Jason Williams?

by dukenilnil on Jan 25, 2012 9:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

While not exciting, it was fantastic to see the team bounce back from that... I don't even know which negative adjective to use to describe *that*

Anyway, apparently Nelson had an injury, but no biggie, Duhon played well, he didn’t become a black hole but you definitely saw out there on the court JJ did a lot of the playmaking. Granted that won’t be possible against all the teams, but hey we’ll be playing the Pacers again soon so that’s a formula that could be used in the future a lot more. One of the more encouraging signs for our backup PG is that he’s draining his shots.

And he hasn’t had a game with 2 or more turnovers since the Detroit loss.

by RL Magic on Jan 25, 2012 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

All good points.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

what is up with J-Rich?

Is this what we signed up for?

Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!

by chiefs_55 on Jan 25, 2012 12:58 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Great win tonight!

Although I’m a bit upset because Duhon hit that that last three, then Lance Stephenson made a layup before the buzzer. I had a wager on the under at 183, Duhon got it to 183, then Stephenson put the total at 185. Oh well, that’s gambling. I’m still happy to see the Magic show some effort after sleep-walking yesterday.

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by 808duck on Jan 25, 2012 1:06 AM EST reply actions  

yea seriously

we shoulda kept Arenas and we shouldn’t have re-signed J Rich cuz he doesn’t fit this offense well.. and if Arenas sucked, we could always amnesty him next season..or if not Arenas, we should have signed Crawford over J Rich, we need a player that can go 1-1, and Wafer isn’t good enough to be a starter

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 25, 2012 5:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Jameer only shot the ball 5 times last night in his time.

Gil would’ve fired up at least twice that with similar results. If you’re missing Gil so much, go cheer for his new team… Oh wait, no one wants him, because he’s awful. Jameer moved the ball last night and got the offense going in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, along with Hedo. Duhon kept it up, thankfully. The five assists Jameer had in 24 minutes doesn’t even do the penetration and ball movement justice.

His conditioning is terrible right now (he can give full effort for like, 5 minutes of game time), and he’s been inconsistent shooting the ball, but the team is 12-5 with him as the starter. Everyone wanted him to be a “pass-first” PG, and he’s shooting only 8.1 times a game, second-lowest in his career (7.9 his rookie season). And Arenas’ eFG% from last year with Orlando was 40.6%… Jameer’s this year is 43.8%. Oh, and Arenas’ 3.2:2.2 Assist/TO ratio didn’t help either. So even Jameer at his offensive worst in his career is better than Arenas last year.

“Making me miss Gil”… Don’t utter such blasphemy again, please.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If you’re missing Gil so much, go cheer for his new team… Oh wait, no one wants him, because he’s awful.

Pure gold.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

One clarification...

Jameer can give full effort for 5 minutes of game time without a break. Obviously, as evident by the Lakers game, he can give full effort for 25-30 minutes total. But he has to be more consistent in those minutes than he has been, without a doubt.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude did i hit a girl switch on you

You don’t like Gil. what of it. i still think he’s better then jameer by a mlle. major injuries tend to make a guy not get picked up. jameer has been terrible lately and tends to disappear when we need him most. oh he only shot 5 times. he also went 2-16 against the spurs. he also shot 5 times when we were embarrassed by boston. he seems bother lately and becoming more and more of a liability. if i say i miss gil i miss gil

by Lil J on Jan 25, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

And if you miss Arenas, you are wrong.

He will never play effective basketball again, because he 1) is stupid and unwilling to change his attitude and 2) has those major injuries that you even acknowledge.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 25, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I ignored everything else because it was useless.

But what the hell is a “girl switch”? Does not compute. Oh well, back to trying to talk to people about the actual product on the court.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Earl Clark had a heck of a game defensively

Four rebounds and four blocks in just 17 minutes!

The four blocks is a career high for Clark.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 25, 2012 4:22 AM EST reply actions  

If he continues to gives us good defense

Then keep him on the court (the main reason i want him on the floor). offense will come with good defense.

by Lil J on Jan 25, 2012 5:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Earl did really well defensively, and that will earn his some minutes.

He is still horrible offensively, so we’ll see how it goes. He’s still not someone to play more than 8-10 minutes/gm. He’s basically a poor-man’s Reggie Evans (but with one-on-one D instead of rebounding as his skill), but he tries to do more offensively for some reason. Evans’ career FGA/36 min is at 5.6. Earl’s is at 12.9. Earl needs to bring that down closer to Reggie’s and only take the ball when he has a serious mismatch against a PG inside or if he’s getting garbage buckets around the rim.

But damn if he didn’t help a lot on defense to hold the fort down while Dwight was on the bench. Good effort for the kid.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, Earl was beasting last night.

Offensively not so much but on defense he was great.

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by cgsimone on Jan 25, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Great bounce back game

Just what we needed to put the Celtics game behind us.

by aakks on Jan 25, 2012 6:38 AM EST reply actions  

Jrich was playing very well the three games before he got injured

It was nice to have him and JJ playing well, also I really believe that JJ likes comin off the bench, he had one good game as a starter and two horrible ones. I really feel J-rich is going to help this team and what makes u think we had a shot at Crawford? It’s easy to say we should a, but could we have? I would have hated to see J-rich with Chicago

by Magical-OverHauL on Jan 25, 2012 7:37 AM EST reply actions  

Chicago is much better off with Rip Hamilton rather than if they had J-Rich

Now that Hamilton is healthy, he has fit in so well with the Bulls’ offense… he’s averaging 14.2 PPG on 50.9% shooting and a 54.7% TS%. He even had 10 assists their last game against the Nets.

His mere presence demands defensive attention, and how well he fills on the wing on fast breaks provides much better offensive flow and pace.

The result of all that is a much more effective and efficient Bulls’ offense than last season.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 25, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

yep huge pickup by Chicago

he’s gonna be huge in the playoffs

by MagicLA on Jan 25, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought we should have signed him over J Rich

i think J Rich woulda been nice in CHI town too tho with Rose at the PG.

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by supermantotherescue on Jan 26, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to see the effort

and intensity last night – will be interesting to see how they handle Boston’s relentless pressuring tactics tomorrow!

by Jaxfann on Jan 25, 2012 8:04 AM EST reply actions  

Good Game... Small Critique

Great effort all around. My one problem with this game, and most this season, is that when teams make runs on us, we never take timeouts until they are up by 10+ pts. It’s like Stan can’t sense the other team building momentum. Or… if a team is making a run, we never drive to the basket looking to draw contact. Drive, pump fake, and go to the dang free throw line! Doing that would make us ten times better. I don’t mind the 3’s as that’s our game, but on nights when they are not falling we have to drive to the rim.

Phil

by PSWINZ on Jan 25, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

I believe it is SVG allowing the players figure it out on their own

Dwight and Jameer want a more vocal presence leading the team, so I think Stan is giving them that leeway. Phil Jackson also used to do this all of the time for the Bulls and Lakers in the regular season. I agree that it sorta stinks now, but maybe it will pay dividends in the future.

If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.

by funny80sguy on Jan 25, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, good comparison.

We can only hope our team responds like Phil’s teams.

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by slickw143 on Jan 25, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I recall...

a few instances in the 2nd half when JJ was bringing the ball up the court, basically running the point. I like that he runs it and tries to create transition opportunities, as opposed to Jameer and Duhon, who just walk it up, and I know SVG would like to see us run the ball a little more so the defense can’t get set so quickly. Would he work as a true PG coming off the bench?

by pjlawrence81 on Jan 25, 2012 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

No

Doesn’t have the handle for pressure

by dukenilnil on Jan 25, 2012 3:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

JJ isn't a PG, but he's been successfully doing a lot of playmaking lately

Also, he may not have the best ball handling skills in the league, but when he was pressed by the Pacers he made far better decisions than Jameer did against the Celtics. Maybe Boston was running a better press with faster players, but as much as having ball handling skills, making the right decisions is a big thing – and I trust JJ in that way far more.

Oh, and how many palming or carry calls has JJ been called for the last few games?

I'm torn. Is JJ Redick the White Mamba or the White Ray Allen?

by EnnBee on Jan 25, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I like this 66-game schedule

It seems like there’s a game on every night!

This compressed schedule may work in favor of the Magic come playoff time.

Orlando’s depth has been impressive during our own injury cycle.

The idea that Hedo would play this year like he did in ‘09 was far-fetched before the season started, but he seems to be doing it. I think this team has a shot at the title, and not just because Turkoglu is doing that “Mr. 4th Quarter” thing, but because Dwight is out-performing his own past greatness. He had an edge we haven’t seen before. And how many technical fouls so far?

Mike from Illinois, can you crank out Howard’s Technical progress this year as compared to years past? I wonder what the difference is?

Just rambling tonight.

by MagicPhan on Jan 25, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

The key to Turk is him staying healthy. SVG needs to be careful with his minutes and not play him too much during the regular season. Right now, I don’t think this team has a shot at the title. Way too inconsistent. And our starting guards need to pick it up if we’re going to have a chance at beating CHI and MIA in a 7 game series. This stretch of games should give us a clearer idea of where we stand. I really hope we get a dominating win tonight against the C’s.

by mblally on Jan 26, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I would like to believe that this team has a shot at the title

but I really don’t think we stand a chance against the Heat or bulls. We would need some serious injury luck and great shooting to be able to make a big playoff push.

After last season, I refuse to set the bar that high for this season.

by najabaas on Jan 26, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan needs to fully transform into "Rashard Lewis circa 2006-2009"

He had done a great job most of the season, but some nights he disappears. Also, needs to step up his defense. Shard was never know for being a great defender, but was better than what Anderson currently is.

Ryan Anderson is doing good this season, but is inconsistent. Say what you want about Lewis with Orlando but, with the exception of his last season, you always knew what you were going to get from him, the guy was the definition of consistent.

If only Jameer was able to regain some of his All-Star form…

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by North of the South on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Jameer needs to regain some of his conditioning...

Too many Philly cheese steaks this off-season. He must’ve expected the season to be cancelled.

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by slickw143 on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

@MagicPhan

In answer to your question, Howard has four technical fouls so far this season, about one in every four games.

This season, a player will be suspended if he accrues 13 technical fouls. Dwight will have to be careful, because at his current rate, he will have gotten his 13th technical sometime around the 52nd or 53rd game.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 26, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

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