Jameer gets owned by Avery Bradley
by MasterofMagic on Jan 24, 2012 9:57 AM EST
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We all know if Jameer could play like he was pre-injury 2009/10, the Magic would be in a much better place, but those days are long gone and Jameer is becoming more and more a liability for the Magic. Granted we don't really have anyone else to turn to, but damn you have to take Jameer out when he's getting owned by a second year player who never gets regular playing time. Look at what Avery Bradley said about Jameer last night.
“He seemed like he didn’t even want to bring the ball up,” Bradley said in a postgame interview with NBA TV. “I looked at him and he kept telling me throughout the game, ‘You know what, don’t pick me up, don’t pick me up.’ And that’s when I knew, if I brought pressure, he didn’t want nothing to do with it.”
Avery Bradley, Boston’s second-year point guard, set the tone immediately by pressuring Nelson as Nelson brought the ball upcourt.
Bradley fired up his teammates, and he also appeared to unnerve Nelson.
And for those of you who might say Jameer was just razzing or joking around, that's not the case here. Jameer would just deflect those comments off as having a bad game, but in reality, he is just becoming a bad point guard...Sigh.
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Jameer really sucked last night, that is true
Plus his performance this year has been disappointing so far. However I want to see how Jameer reacts on Thursday when the Magic play Boston again before I officially jump on the ‘Jameer needs to go’ bandwagon. I can see Jameer nailing three pointer after three pointer and talking trash to Bradley about where his head is at.
If the Magic must trade Dwight, Hedo better stay. He needs to retire a Magic.
Jameer had a bad game. You know who else had a bad game?
EVERYBODY. I mean if you’re going to be picky, Ryan was 0-8 from the floor, 0-4 from three, and had one assist, 1 TO and three fouls. He got dominated by his defender. I mean he had open shots and he couldn’t hit those. And he’s been regressing some over the last few games but no one says to trade Ryan because of them (REP doesn’t count). And Jameer didn’t have a perfect game, but the only thing he did very badly was commit five TO. Rest of his stat line: 2-5 FG, 1-1 from three, one rebound, three assist, one steal and one block (how did Jameer get a block?) and had five points. Now compare that with Bradley’s: 2-7 FG, 0-1 from three, 2-2 FT, four rebounds, three assists, three steals, one block and had six points. So while you might want to say he got out-played by Bradley, saying he got owned or that Jameer is a bad point guard is taking a huuuuge leap. Jameer might not be the best, but we could be doing a lot, lot worse.
"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom
I don't man
Jameer couldn’t even get the ball past half court. And he was trying to run the offense 7-8 feet behind the 3pt line because he couldn’t get any closer with that pressure defense. Not good!
by Memphissleek on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
And that's all his fault? If a guy is putting pressure on your guard and he's visibly in trouble, go set a pick for him and help him out
"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom
True.
BUT, I do remember Baby tried to set a pick and Nelson ignored it and palmed the ball while doing so. One of Nelson’s TOs.
by Memphissleek on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Might be a blessing in disguise
Jameer might look at this as a challenge and be aggressive against the C’s on Thurs. Though, I would assume Rondo will be back then. Jameer has to be pissed after hearing this…
by CBMagic85 on Jan 24, 2012 12:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Bradley played like a PG on a bad team with nothing to lose.
He played as close as one gets to being called for fouls every time, and that is not how a good PG on a quality team plays since it’s too risky. I am not defending how Jameer played but I consider that game an aberration not only for Jameer but for everybody on the team, Dwight included. Magic has a tendency to get irritated by stifling defenses, and BOS has a history of getting under Magic’s skin playing that kind of defense. You would not hear this often from me but I blame this one on the coach not being able to calm the players down not only during the game but also between the two halves of the game.
The co-captains of this team can't ask SVG to step back and then look to hide behind SVG when things get ugly.
Specially when both of them are getting mind f’d by a bench player and a pair of 40 year old bigs. They both publicly stated that SVG should step back and let them lead. Well it just got ugly and last night showed nobody stepped into the leadership role. The next few games should be telling – lets see if they were really ready to lead or just talking big.
You can judge SVG for what I thought were some bad player rotations – but to blame this loss on him for leadership is way off mark. How is he supposed to lead when the team diva says he wants to play gm, coach, and captain. As great as Dwight is as a player he is not mature enough to lead – if ever; and Nelson surely can’t lead anymore after Dwight just threw him under the bus.
No.
You said:
" You would not hear this often from me but I blame this one on the coach not being able to calm the players down not only during the game but also between the two halves of the game."
I said that Dwight (and Nelson) have asked SVG to step back so that they can play the leadership role. In other words uniting their team mates in the locker room and keeping them level and playing their roles during the game. This applies to when things are going good or horribly wrong.
Neither Howard or Nelson stepped into that role last night. In fact Howard admitted he failed in that aspect . SVG pointed several times to the point guard position not being able to even get the ball across the court – much less leading the offense.
At no point did I say SVG has no role, in fact my point was that SVG’s leadership role has been undermined by Dwight’s antics. A behavior that has also clearly shaken the confidence of Nelson, the Magic’s floor leader.
If you are assigning the reason for the loss to a lack of leadership, then it is Howard (and Nelson) who you have to blame. They wanted the leadership role – now they have to back their statements.
OK.
I think preserving the emotional balance of the team is the coach’s job amongst, many other attributes of a great coach, which cannot be relegated to the players’ level. I don’t care what the players want or say, SVG should be able to coach to his full ability regardless of what players say, including the one who has one foot out of the door.
Jameer has been subpar this year...
But last night was an aberration and Jameer wasn’t even the worst player on the team. Everyone was awful. I love Ryan, but Jameer had more rebounds than him. Ryan had a Chris Dudley game, as I like to call it. Jameer just had 17 & 9 in a big win over the Lakers the game before. Dude’s been inconsistent, he’s been up & down, but we’ve still won more than 66% of our games this year, and he’s been moving the ball well while (usually) not turning it over.
If we can get a trade for a better PG, of course we do it. But, is that offer out there without giving up Ryan? I don’t think so.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
So what shall we make of Jameer having yet another awful game?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't really have an awful game, if you look at more than the stat line.
He penetrated, got the ball moving and the offense going while he was in the game. He only took 5 shots, and yeah, made only 1. But he had 5 assists to only 2 TO’s, while his counterpart Darren Collison had 0 assists to only 3 TO’s. Everyone wanted him to be pass-first, and now he’s doing that and people are still killing him.
Just admit that you have an irrational dislike for a starting point guard of multiple 50+ win teams and we can move on until an actual realistic trade materializes for a better PG.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Its about watching game film.
Meer had a hard time getting the ball past half court against the Spurs. The Lakers didn’t followup or they could have gotten the same pressure. Jameer has been extremely lazy with the ball lately.
When life gives you lemons... Bag them up and sell them. Fruit can be expensive these days.
by hevchv on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't think it's laziness, because he's made great passes in the half-court.
I think it’s conditioning, honestly. He looks so tired after 5 minutes of gametime. No legs = unable to handle full court pressure (which he’s never had a problem with in the past) and poor shooting, which is an obvious one.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
"You know what, don’t pick me up, don’t pick me up."
I don’t care that Jameer had a crappy game, that happens and it has nothing to do with skill or preparation. It just happens. But if Jameer did say that to Bradley during the game then he’s got to get right or get gone. Period.
An athlete and a competitor at Jameer’s level telling a nobody rookie who has owned him up to that point. “Don’t pick me up”. Are you effing kidding me!!
I’ve always believed Jameer is a good player and a great fit for this team. I’ve always believed his heart and competitiveness were awesome. But that pissed off because he was the 20th draft pick that we got 8 years ago would never have said, “Don’t pick me up.”
Broke my heart reading it.
but in reality, he is just becoming a bad point guard…Sigh.
Nah. He’s an above-average point-guard who is having a bad season. He’ll recover, and he’ll be above-average again-but never great or elite.
He probably won’t fall off completely for a few more years-then the combo of size and loss of speed will start to really hurt him.
But he’ll be OK later this season.
I don't get the whole 'pop-tart cats pooping rainbows thing,' but then, I'm old. So, there it is.
woops - messed up the block quote - first sentence is by MasterofMagic.
Apologies.
I don't get the whole 'pop-tart cats pooping rainbows thing,' but then, I'm old. So, there it is.
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