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i dont mind being a 6 man..as long as when i come in i get to play like [Jason] terry and not me last year

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Well if he can actually "play" like Jason Terry then that'll be great.

Arenas really is delusional. Does he even realize he played poorly & was out of shape and hurt? I think not. Dwight really messed up by evoking his name in his recent comments. Unneeded ego boost for an egomaniac.

Danger Zone

by IsisAgentArcher on Jun 24, 2011 11:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

maybe if he thinks he can play better

he will play better…is that a form of reverse psycology?

by reid-the-manuel on Jun 24, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

It seemed if he had a bad game, it was perpetual. Most of the Magic fans, and Stan apparently, came down really hard on Gil.

Fear the Beard!

by BleedingBlueSince89 on Jun 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's another tweet from him
my strugs were mental..i played my worst at hm..becuz i was always thinkin what the fans was thinkn about me..

Why so sensitive?

by aakks on Jun 24, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beause he has lost confidence

I said it during the season, imagine waking up and hearing how much the national media, local media, fans, etc all hate you. You go into a game and Earl Clark gets a louder ovation than you do. Yes, I understand he makes a lot of money, but he is still a human being. All the negativity plus issues with the the girlfriend/wife thingy probably bogged him down.

Having said that, he does need to adjust his game. His knees simply will not allow him to be who he was. He does need to lose weight, he needs to get stronger, and quite frankly he needs to shut up. Stop talking about what you can do, what you did, or what you will do. Shut up, get in the gym, and come back and prove your doubters.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jun 24, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t expect much from him, and really not sure if I should expect him to be here. But you gotta play with what you got I guess.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jun 24, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gil... you got that massive contract and havent lived up to expectations of a MAX contract player

Is it really that hard for him to see the fans side of this hostility? The main reason we cant get a REAL superstar in Orlando for Dwight is his freaking contract

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jun 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are people with twitter accounts telling him this? Because they should be.

I hope people aren’t re-tweeting one big love fest with Arenas. He needs to know what a weirdo he is. BTW, I quit reading eddy’s blog primarily due to his admiration and celebration of Arenas as a person.

by CaliFlorida on Jun 25, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Go Magic/Bucs/Gators/Rays!

by chiefs_55 on Jun 26, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guessed you missed the part where, you know, I butchered Arenas in my evaluation of him and wanted to give him a grade worse than an F but couldn’t. I guess my unique ability to separate his goofy personality and Twitter antics from his on-court performance is too much.

I write for Magic Basketball and have a Twitter account.

by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been on a weeklong vacation in Orlando and at the beach, so I'm super late with this.

But just to make a counterpoint: I think his “goofy personality and Twitter antics” have a lot to do with his on-court struggles. By his own admission, his problems are mental (they’re also physical, but there’s no hope that he’ll ever realize that). Yet he continues to be unfocused and delusional. Off the court, that is manifested in his goofiness and unfunny Twitter account. On the court, that is manifested with his crazed demands for more playing time and absolute unwillingness to see that he is not the same player he used to be, and he never will be. So, I’m sorry, but I can’t celebrate one manifestation of his mental problems when the other manifestation is going to continue to ruin this franchise until either his contract ends in three years, or he is mercifully amnesty’d.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jun 29, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This is exactly how I feel.

You don’t see these types of dumb antics from Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, Pierce or Garnett. Winners don’t embarrass themselves by broadcasting to the world that they are dumb, immature a-holes. Maybe Arenas’ lame twitter nonsense is amusing to Heat fans and college freshman, but if you care about the Magic, it’s maddening.

Oh and planking is a snore-fest and is not funny. Don’t go tweeting LMAO just on account of Arenas lying flat on various props. It’s not like he’s going around Orlando flashing hairpies.

by CaliFlorida on Jun 29, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not fan of Arenas.

but just a question: how about Dwight planking? Does it change how you feel about this thing?

by isum on Jun 30, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind him being a 6th man

If he comes in and plays as well as Terry and not as crappy as Arenas.

by aakks on Jun 24, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

playing great is all about confidence

If Gil gets his confidence in his athletic abilities back, he will start to perform at a higher level. MJ was the greatest because he NEVER let anyone shake his confidence. Same reason why Lebron will never be MJ is because he lets people get in his head. If Gil can get back to his form, which is just freely flowing throughout the game, he will be a good asset to this team. I tend to think he will get back to form with getting back in shape.

by MasterofMagic on Jun 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Look

I understand he is a highly (over)paid athlete and shouldn’t let anything affect his play; that being said, I also realize he’s human, (and a head case.) A little bit of positive reinforcement might go a long way in this situation. We saw flashes of how good Gil could potentially still be… mixed in with a bunch of games we wish we could forget.

Fear the Beard!

by BleedingBlueSince89 on Jun 24, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This guy is a joke

Guy doesn’t nothing but talk smack and not accept any responsibility. I watched every game last year. Dude – you suck! Couldn’t make a shot, couldn’t defend, couldn’t handle! You are a professional making 20 mil a year – you have to perform at a professional level. I mean cmon, this is getting ridiculous. Otis has to take the fall for this bum – now we have to listen to him run his mouth all summer. What a joke. Any reasonable coach would have pulled him too, when you are considering we had a good team and were hoping to make a deep run. The guy was killing our chances. I want him GONE. At least man up and admit you just didn’t play well last year. Moron.

Break the Curse

by Poon on Jun 24, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Gilbert...

A little lesson in being a man and showing humility. How about: “I was disappointed in my performance last year. I think that with some more playing time and adjustement to my teammates, I can help this team reach its goal of winning a championship. I just want to help the team win a championship. I’m gonna work hard this off-season and come back next year better than ever.” You come over, play like a bum, and want to throw the best coach we ever had under the bus for not giving you enough PT. How about you beat our Chris f/ing Duhon before you do that.

Break the Curse

by Poon on Jun 24, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Twitter is a Q score killer.

by telka on Jun 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

BBWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dear Gil, We hope you play like Jason Terry, too. ~Fans

"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter

by magicfaninTN on Jun 24, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I would take it if he played like Brian Cardinal....

With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Jun 25, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I cant believe I'll say this

but unless Gilbert Arenas makes a comeback (20ppg) nearly impossible otherwise I think the Magic are screwed and Dwight is gone and we’re headed to the lottery. Otis Smith must be fired in order to have any chance of saving the team everything he trades for or signs turn into sh*t.

by GoMagic000 on Jun 24, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I think many are overreacting to this tweet.

When Terry was put into a game, he was given a lot of freedom about how he played. Give Terry the ball and let him be creative to do what he needed to. He wasn’t tasked with rigidly playing within the system. That’s what Arenas was talking about.

I don’t think Arenas could have played as well as Terry if he was given the same leeway, but that STYLE of play is what Arenas excels at. The rigid system SVG runs doesn’t mesh well with Arenas (or Terry’s) free-wheelin’ style of play.

Hopefully — and it’s a big hope — with physical improvements over the off-season, Arenas will be able to play better overall…which will in turn give Stan a bit more trust to give a little more freedom in his play (esp. if he’s playing against 2nd units).

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jun 24, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

^ This

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jun 24, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

I certainly wouldn’t have played Arenas much, considering his play. I would have played him over Duhon — which SVG did.

I really hope he turns it around somewhat over the off-season. He’s got great court vision, good passing skills, and at times a helpful shot. He “could” be a Terry style game-changer as a 6th man. He needs to get his legs back, then he needs to show that his work (particularly on defense) yielded results. If he can do that, SVG should let him off the leash a bit to play more his style on offense.

I don’t know if he can, but I hope.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jun 27, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this needs to be green

Dwight Howard - "My Gosh, what is that smell?"
Otis Smith - "That's the smell of success my man."
Dwight Howard - "No, it smells like a used Arenas... filled with... Turkoglu..."
Otis Smith - "You know, success smells like that to some people." (turns and walks toward a crowd of fans)
Fan#1 - (Disgusted) "What is that? Smells like a turd covered in burnt hair..."
Otis Smith - (Tries to act casual and walk away) "Woah, what's that smell?"

by ECFIVESTER on Jun 29, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now it is.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jun 29, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like this attitude.

I hope Agent Nada wont end up becoming a problem in the locker room for the Magic.

Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
Caracas, Venezuela.

by North of the South on Jun 24, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm in for Gil

He’s not a bad guy, and he’s one of the best ballers in the world. In 2006, he scored 60 against the Lakers. He got injured and it was pretty serious. Then he aged.

I think he might have a year or two left in him at the elite level, if he is allowed to play his way. None other than Dwight Howard said as much, last month.

Forget the CBA. Until or unless it happens, that clause to cut a bad contract doesn’t exist. And if D12 is in Gil’s corner, it won’t be Gil’s contract that gets cut.

The necessary option is to get behind our man and support him. We’re shopping Jameer. This should tell you where things are going. It could all change tomorrow, but the way things stand now, Arenas is our point guard, and he is capable of being the best in the league. Can we carve out a little optimism here? Just once?

by MagicPhan on Jun 24, 2011 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

just be realistic

the Magic aren’t considered a contender with the current roster.

And even Otis knows Gil is not fit enough to play basketball at the moment. Count on him as our starting point guard? That’s a nightmare.

by isum on Jun 25, 2011 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair

I don’t want or expect to convert anyone. But until the roster changes, this is what we have. Given that, I’ll just plod ahead as I’ve always done: optimistic and in constant denial.

by MagicPhan on Jun 25, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a lot of sympathy for Gil as a person

But he can’t expect unconditional love from fans, coaches and teammates he’s done nothing but let down.

I’m sure it’s not easy for him and no doubt he’s in a bad place right now, and that’s unfortunate. I hope things get better for him. But his performances are sucking, and as long as that remains the case, nothing is going to change. So, as a basketball fan…I want him off my team.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 25, 2011 4:28 AM EDT reply actions  

“I don’t mind Arenas playing 6th man as long as he doesn’t look like he’s playing with a peg-leg”

by KingFuss on Jun 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

And I want to be the next Jerry West!

The difference between me and Gil is that unlike him, I’m not delusional about my basketball abilities.

by GameManager on Jun 25, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

speaking of twitter, anyone on it lately??

D12 is trending topic, and this is what most of the comments about him look like:

@NBAPRGuy It’s official, Lakers will acquire Center Dwight Howard for Bynum/Odom and future 1st round draft picks

by miamigirl54 on Jun 25, 2011 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

@NBAPRGuy isn't an accurate source.

Same guy thought that the Celtics would acquire Monta Ellis.

If it's lonely at the top, I'd rather be alone
cause the closest people to ya, the ones who gonna do you wrong

by 4QB on Jun 25, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Said, not thought

If it's lonely at the top, I'd rather be alone
cause the closest people to ya, the ones who gonna do you wrong

by 4QB on Jun 25, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i know, but i'm nervous for D12

if that guy says it is one thing, but when all of twitter is exploding i get nervous… luckily it’s not on espn/nba source yet…just a few lakers sources

by miamigirl54 on Jun 25, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy?
Breaking news: Jazz acquire PG Steve Nash and hakim warrick for derrick favors cj miles, and Devin Harris..

THAT’S SO HAPPENING!!! OMGZ! PANIC! Twitter is sometimes made of idiots.

If it's lonely at the top, I'd rather be alone
cause the closest people to ya, the ones who gonna do you wrong

by 4QB on Jun 25, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figure it ain't reality til it's on OPP.

I don't get the whole 'pop-tart cats pooping rainbows thing,' but then, I'm old. So, there it is.

by Redfield on Jun 25, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

"I got WAY too many cars in my driveway.."
Orlando Native(By way of Parramore)

by Mr_Major on Jun 26, 2011 11:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...
agentzeroshow Gilbert A. aka Jefe
Good news..the knee is structurally fine..just never retrained the muscles to fire in sync..8hrs of re training..means really Freaky sore
agentzeroshow Gilbert A. aka Jefe
It wasnt arthritis from the cold..it was lack of muscle use..and over using wrong muscles…so otis WAS right..gotta get stronger legs

agentzeroshow Gilbert A. aka Jefe
So the lack of jumpin and explosiveness was do to not haven’t the leg power I once had..so I gotta get my beef cake 3000 on lol

by MagicLA on Jun 27, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Right, I see,

Because those things are happening as a direct result of fans endearing themselves to the tweets of gilbert eff-in arenas. I guess I didn’t realize the dramatic impact that we average joes can have on player performance, offseason training habits, and even front office decisions, just by reacting to a player’s twitter. We really can do anything if we put our minds to it!

by Three The Hardaway on Jun 28, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The point isn't whether you can do something about it.

The point is the guy is the biggest embarrassment in the NBA, a complete failure, and a primary cause for the Magic’s disastrous roster situation. Placed in that context, these “goofy” tweets that some are so infatuated with are difficult to find amusing as a Magic fan.

by CaliFlorida on Jun 28, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly - a professional athlete making close to $20M/yr just figuring out that he needs

to rehab from 3 surgeries – the last of which was Sept ’08. Kind of like Barry Bonds rubbing “the cream” and “the clear” all over and just thinking it was flaxseed oil. I gotta throw the BS flag!

I think his latest tweets are an effort to endear himself to someone (Otis, D12, fans) with words rather than actions. “Watch I’m gonna be a star again – just trust me”. Still a bum in my mind. Almost 3 fricking years w/o rehab and we’re now supposed to believe him. He had tons of time after he got suspended for the gun show. If he had heart he would have come back from that in prime condition showing the league he was not washed up. I’m still hoping there’s full amnesty in the new CBA and we use it to get rid of the BIG ZERO

Live life to the fullest, and do it in the fast lane

by UCLA_Alum on Jun 28, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Are we fans supposed to be doing something this off season to help the team?

by Three The Hardaway on Jun 28, 2011 1:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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