When it comes to execution on offense, this year's Magic are last year's Hawks. Well, with one exception, Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said.
"We don't have the Jamal Crawford or a Joe Johnson, guys who can break you down off the dribble," Van Gundy said in what seemed like a subtle swipe at his limited roster.
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Back to square one.
Stan made this exact same comment after the blowout loss early in the regular season to the Miami Heat. Guess we haven’t really gotten anywhere since then.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
Nope.
Turk’s confidence is shot. Just has none. It’ not like SVG is ripping his players. He keeps saying it is not for a lack of effort. The guys are playing hard. They just can not make open shots to save their lives.
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by Mateo9399 on Apr 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Turk's time away from us maybe killed him.
He used to have whole games where he would suck but he always had his confidence to finish strong. Now he looks shakey on every play.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
It doesn't help that he's two years older, and that during his last year here he was already showing signs of decline.
Fans tend to forget how quickly players can age.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree.
That’s why I wasn’t down on the Carter deal. Turk looked like he was slowing down big time in 2009 and I wasn’t looking forward to a fresh contract Turk in 2010.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
I think Otis played it right the first time
Turk’s not a guy who was ever going to age gracefully.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Carter deal was to obtain J Rich from PHX. PHX wouldnt do the trade unless we agreed to take Turk as well
"the Magic also are a lot different than they were a year ago ... almost entirely for the worse." - John Hollinger
I'm referring to the deal letting Turk go and getting Carter from NJ.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
I'm trying VERY hard to hold back my negativity until elimination is official
Unfortunately, I’m quickly running out of self control.
It isn't over till it's over.
That’s not saying they’re going to win. But it is a fact of life.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
From that same article
“I just told them that if they didn’t believe we can still win this series, stay in Atlanta,” Howard said of his message to teammates in a dejected Orlando locker room.
Please be Gil and Hedo!!!!!
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Apr 25, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 26, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He's struggling with Hinrich and Crawford
He’s not really quick enough to burn Hinrich, and Crawford’s killing him with height.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no, he wasn't.
VC was the guy who Dwight would be talking about needing to stay in Atlanta.
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That's why Dwight isn't an NBA GM
He might not have liked Carter, but Carter’s skillset is exactly what the Magic need in this series.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
skillset and mentality are not the same thing.
You can be a terrifically gifted player, but if you have the mentality of a loser, you will lose. Rarely can you win if you don’t think you will. You can however be good and win with a strong mentality and work ethic and a lesser level of ability.
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The Magic seem to be losing anyway
I’d rather have the players with the tools to win but not the mentality than players without the tools to win and without the mentality.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Except I don't think I ever saw Carter actually step up in the 4th quarter and take over a game while he was here.
other than the throw-back regular season game against New Orleans.
He was good in quarters 1-3, but when it came time to make big shots, he was nowhere to be found. If we had Richardson last night, I would have rather him have been taking that shot late than Carter.
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If we had Carter
I don’t think the Magic would have needed a last minute 3 last night.
I’ll take three quarters of decent production, penetration and scoring off the dribble over a slightly better chance at a game winning shot any day.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
To that point
If you look at the quarter breakdown the Magic really lost in the 1st quarter and played catch-up the rest of the game. That’s why I hate this “when it mattered most” crap. Points are points. If you score a bunch in the beginning of the game you give yourself a chance to win the same way as scoring at the end of the game.
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you both make good points
I agree 100% that points are points and they’re worth the same in the 1st as they are in the 4th, I just don’t think Carter was mentally tough enough when it came down to it if we were in a situation like last night to come up with a big shot.
I am not a fan of Turk either and have never been a believer in him, so I don’t think trading Carter for him was an improvement by any means.
I do not think we miss Carter’s play-making though, because to me he looked more like a gimpy Gil than a former All-Star (that we thought we were getting)
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take it from a hawk fan
Vince was a nightmare for Joe, Josh, and everybody else who took a turn. i agree that he lacked the focus/drive to do it night in and night out during the season, but its the playoffs…
Vince = hawk killer
Unfortunatley he had to be traded
because Boston = Vince killer
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by TittyBrewsky on Apr 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Carter had a very good playoff run last year, until the Magic lost game 1 vs. Boston despite his 23 points.
After that, he pretty much folded, with the missed free throws, you could tell he mentally gave up, and was ready to be blamed for the Magic’s elimination.
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by North of the South on Apr 25, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we're missing his playmaking this series
Because nobody he’d pass to would hit a shot anyway!
We definitely miss his ability to create shots off the dribble, though. Once the ball is out of Jameer’s hands (and maybe Gil’s on a rare very good day), we have nobody who can attack a defense.
And you did not just compare Arenas favourably to Carter, did you? Shame on you sir.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
No, I didn’t compare them favorably. I was making it a negative judgement on Carter’s ability to attack the rim. He did pass the ball better, and shot better, but playmaking wise, I don’t think he was any better than Gil is, and that is sad.
I need to clarify my “attack the rim” statement. By “attack the rim” I mean ability to draw fouls and get to the free throw line. Carter didn’t do that enough. He drove, but then did his best Turk imitation by fading and throwing up a bad shot/a layup that glances off the backboard and doesn’t even touch the rim.
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He still took more free throws per 36 minutes
Than anyone else on the Magic…
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
...
I don’t know what to say, other than it sure seemed like he never actually went to the basket with the intention of drawing the foul. I guess this is where “my eyes lie to me”. I was a big fan of bringing him in originally (mainly because I thought he was still good and Anderson was a big addition).
I think the best analysis of a player however involves both observation and stats, not simply relying on stats. I would argue that my observations of his play throughout the games he spent in Orlando made me put-off by his play. Obviously the stats you present aren’t going to back up my observations, but I am not going to try and look up numbers to defend what I thought I was watching.
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I think the problem with Carter
Is that people hadn’t really watched him for a while and didn’t realise how his game had changed.
People thought they were getting the 25 points a game, 7 or 8 foul shots a game, half man half amazing Carter from his late Toronto, early New Jersey days. But he hadn’t been that guy for about 3 years. He was already getting old. I don’t know how it’s Carter’s fault that he was trying to live up to unreasonable expectations.
He played as well as he was capable of here, I think. Scored efficiently, created shots for others, tried hard on defense and got to the line as much as his old body could handle. It’s not really his fault that wasn’t what people wanted.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
that's all probably true.
This team needed more than that, though. It needed what ’09 Lewis, ’09 reg. season Jameer and to an extent, what ’09 Turk brought. Which is to say, quite unreasonable. That is true.
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I enjoy reading your discussion here.
I think Vince could do better than our current guys in breaking guys down the dribble (either pass to open teammates, draw fouls or finish at the rim). This is in response to Stan’s statement.
Something is currently missing from our players. I hope it’s just confidence and they will get back in the next games.
As North of South said, Vince did have a very good playoff run last year until the Boston series, and he has got a lot of blame over the past 1.5 season with us and I don’t think every criticism is fair.
What? Big shots?
Here, have some:
Should have been more specific.
From his time in Orlando. I don’t care about clutch shots in NJ or Toronto. I liked him then, he was great, but he wasn’t on my team. So there was 2 from the Orlando time against a crappy Miami team in the regular season, and I forget when that was against the Hawks.
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You talking about Vince Carter?
The one who didn’t show up in last years playoffs. The one who can no longer beat anyone off the dribble? The one who ended up on the Suns bench by the end of the regular season? That who you’re saying we needed? What year is this?
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by Matty B on Apr 25, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you know who has the third highest PER on the Magic this season?
Vince Carter.
Do you know who has the 6th highest True Shooting % on the Magic this season? Vince Carter.
Do you know who has the second highest assist % for non-point guards on the Magic this season? Vince Carter.
Do you know who has the lowest turnover percentage of players with a usage rate of over 20 and/or an assist % of over 15? Vince Carter.
7th highest offensive rating? =7th lowest defensive rating? 5th highest win shares per 48 minutes?
Vince Carter.
For a guy who apparently can’t do anything, he sure did a lot for Orlando before he was traded.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see mediocre
He passed good according to those stats. But he was 6th or 7th best on everything else. He was not brought here to be the 6th best player. He was brought here to be the 2nd best player. That is why people hate VC. He was suppose to be the 2nd best player, not a role player.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
What the hell was J-Rich or Hedo brought here for?
Vince was 6th in TS% on the team, that is true. But only JJ was ahead of him in terms of the Magic’s wing players. He was also the best rebounder out of our wing players besides Q-Rich (using rebounding percentage and rebounds/36 min.). He was the 2nd leading scorer behind Dwight in points/36 min or points per game
He was playing well before he was traded, or at the very least, better than anyone we have acquired in the trades. He had 6 bad games out of 22 before the trade, but the anti-Vince sentiment made it seem like he only had 6 good games his entire time with the Magic.
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by slickw143 on Apr 26, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree.
These guys are underperforming as well. But to say that VC was so much better is not an argument either. All of them have been disappointing.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
The REAL issue is Otis continuing to take gambles on players that all appear to be JUST past their primes
The list id growing, and I’m ready to just take a chance on a budding young guy at this point.
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by magicboi407 on Apr 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agreed
I argued Orlando should have tried to get Aaron Brooks or a Darren Collison. But every one is quick to say their stats are bad. They have not even been in the league 5 years. Both those guys were available. Orlando secured none. Trevor Ariza got Collison??? I am sure Orlando would could have traded for him if they looked. Is he great? I don’t know, but neither is Jameer so why not get a young PG who you can start to groom. Jameer is 30 guys. Why not get an Aaron Brooks? Oh yeah Otis…
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Because Aaron Brooks isn't any good.
He’s young, sure, but has had precisely one good year. He moped all season because he lost time to Kyle Lowry, a far superior player.
Micheal Wallace's write-up is an unwarranted praise of an ATL team which is not much better than its last year's version. It is, in fact, quite short-sighted and even foolish at parts.
Looking at this very last game, if Magic had made only 15% of their open look 3-pointers, they would have won the game comfortably … shoot those 3-pointers in a 30% clip and it’s a blowout. On the other hand, ATL is shooting at percentages which seem not attainable – based on regular season’s history – and certainly unsustainable, at their wildest imagination.
ATL’s lucky stars have got them to a 3-1 lead which could have easily been reversed to the opposite. It is foolish of Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford to feel confident if they were only wise enough to look Magic’s atrocious 3-point shooting which has nothing to do with ATL’s defense … a defense so soft that Arenas can get to the rim with almost no resistance. Just think of what a player with Carter’s abilities could do to this ATL’s defense.
The series is not over … not yet. Magic is certainly capable of winning the remaining 3 games … and they should. That is how bad this ATL team is.
Actually, Atlanta are shooting worse than their season averages
Obviously a lot of that is down to Orlando’s defense, but other than Crawford and Hinrich, they’re not shooting well at all.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What is funny is that NBA TV's Jerry Stackhouse said the exact same thing.
He is literally at a lost for words as to how Orlando is losing this series.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
It's just been a perfect storm. I think the series can still swing either way.
This series is so bizarre…
The Magic are just as likely to get bounced out of the playoffs tonight as the Hawks are to stop making crazy jump shots and the Magic sweep three in a row.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Apr 26, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It really is...
But do the players believe that?
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I definitely hope so
Even more importantly, I wish the Atlanta players would believe this, too.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
Arenas does because he doesn't know any better.
SVG and Dwight do. Probably Jameer as well. Outside of that not sure.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Atlanta might not be much better than last year's version, but the Magic certainly are considerably worse than last year.
Regular season showed it. 4 games into the first round of the playoffs they continue to prove it. Less height, less depth, slightly less defense, and all this despite Dwight’s progress in his own game.
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by North of the South on Apr 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
"and all this despite Dwight’s progress in his own game."
Thats the worst part about all this.
Dwight is like over 70% from the FT line and putting up career best scoring numbers and we’re down 1-3…
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banned
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It's really up to whoever the Magic GM is at the time.
No way they keep him into Free Agency and risk being burned ala Shaquille part 2. He’ll be moved next year. Possible destinations:
NJ – Lopez based package.
LAL – Bynum based package.
ATL – Horford, Teague package?
I’d prefer Lopez, all things considered.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Apr 25, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumb. and Banned.
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i promise, if somehow Otis could pull off a deal for Andre Iguadola and package Hedo, JJ, Bass and a future Pick
our team would actually be so much more improved. Iguadola is a guy who creates, can get to the basket, and most importantly, defend like a mofo!…Joe Johnson wouldnt even be an afterthought if we had Iggy playing him 1 on 1…we need that type of player…Carter somewhat resembled him in his athleticism (or whatever was left) and his ability to get to the basket but Iggy has much better defense…his only weakness is his FT shooting which isnt that bad…the rest would actually fit this team very well…He and Gerald Wallace are a top of my wish lists…just hoping xmas comes early this year, i know its not realistic, but honestly we are one solid wing defender who can score and a back up big man away from the ECF next year….
The fact that Portland managed a trade for Wallace kills me.
We could have made it happen, somehow. He is exactly the kind of player we’re missing.
He can't really get his own shot either
But he’d certainly be better than Turk.
Not sure what the Magic could have offered, mind.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
we seriously screwed up not getting wallace...i've said it a few times, a wallace/deng/iguadola type of player is exactly what we need...
guys who can defend wing players and score….but isn’t wallace a free agent this summer?
Yes, but he's not going to accept the MLE
Which is all Orlando can offer.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Banned?
Right. Newsflash — it’s ok to speculate where Dwight will end up. Take off the rose-colored glasses, reality won’t hit you as hard when it happens.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Apr 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean it literally, obviously, as I have no ability to make such a decision.
But doing it now, here, at this point in the season, is just annoying. There are dozens (it seems) of fan posts dedicated to discussing such a thing, please go take it there. I don’t wear “rose-colored glasses” when it comes to Dwight (or most things Orlando Magic) and his future, but I won’t discuss it at such a point in this season on this thread.
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I don't recall anybody asking you to comment on it.
This point of the season? We’re all holding on for hope of a miraculous come back, but again, there’s that word again, reality.
Furthermore, there’s a million things being discussed in “this thread” that aren’t relevant to the fanshot. If you don’t care about the discussion, don’t jump in.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Apr 25, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure every comment in here is discussing either:
1) the verbatim premise of the FanPost
2) the intent of the verbiage in the FanPost (ergo the discussions about Carter, Turk, Crawford, Nelson, etc.) and how the Magic don’t have a person who can take someone 1 on 1.
3) Dwight Howard’s future. Guess how many there are on that? 2. Yours and the guy who brought it up.
Don’t be a jerk because I asked you to discuss the not-on-topic-topic elsewhere. I also don’t recall the guy specifically asking you to reply to his post either.
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Where Howard takes his talents next season IS related to the fanpost.
In that, he has no help, he’s not fond of his teammates choking year-after-year, he wants to win and he knows he can’t do it with this roster, or whatever tricks will be turned in the offseason. Therefore, it’s rather evident he’s going to be leaving, whether on his accord or the front office’s.
You didn’t ask anyone to discuss anything, anywhere. You were simply trolling discussions that contain a reality that you don’t want to accept and labeling them as, “dumb” and suggesting users should be baned. And, no, he didn’t ask me to comment, but my reply is directly related to his comment.
You stated, “but I won’t discuss it at such a point in this season on this thread.”
Nobody ever said: “JeffShann3, please give us your insight about Dwight’s future in Orlando, right here, in this fanshot.” If you don’t agree with the comments being made, don’t stop to post, “dumb” “banned” or any variation, just move along.
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Apr 26, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Look
I’m very aware of the real possibility that Dwight may want to leave when his contract is up. I understand that people want to discuss it, fine. Do it where the topic has already been started is what I’m saying. The “dumb” part I was talking about in your reply was the packages that you think are the best. I think they all suck.
And sure, in a six degrees of separation sort of way you can make the connection that the topic being discussed by you two was on topic but I can probably do that with just about anything. Neither one of you discussed the idea that his players abilities (or lack there of) could lead to Dwight wanting to leave if nothing can be done to change the roster. Instead, you both simply mentioned “where will Dwight be” and “I think this is what we can expect to get for him” neither one of you said anything to do with the topic.
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South Beach?
Long Beach?
Daytona Beach?
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 25, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
E. Rutherford landfill?
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Bye, Bye, Bobby!
by GonzoBallSHU on Apr 25, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing I'd like to see is have Dwight cover Horford on defense
And put Ryan or Brandon on (insert offensively useless Atlanta center here). Horford’s not really hurting us that bad, but Dwight can still take him completely out of the game (like last season) and Ryan or Brandon could easily cover a Jason Collins or Zaza.
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by betterthanburke on Apr 25, 2011 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Howard's dominating the Hawks around the basket playing free safety
You don’t really need him guarding anyone unless the Hawks are killing it inside.
He’s smart enough to roam onto Horford as necessary.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 25, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This^
Guys, not you eltharion, the defense is not the problem. Has not been since Game 2. Make shots. Pretty simple.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
The issue i've seen with the group of guys we have now is that is always been the fact they can only manage either or per game
Look at the Golden State OT loss (amongst others) where the offense was lights out but we couldn’t get a stop. But then we will lock down a team on D and can’t buy a basket. Teams in years past were able to balance the two to the tune of 102ppg and 93 points against.
Unless this team shows it can break 100 and keep the other guy around or below 95 then we are in trouble.
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by magicboi407 on Apr 26, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
What I mean by this is 88 to 82 wins will not cut it
as evidence by the fact that it allows, in those kind of games (all of them so far in this series), to swing in one teams favor instantly. By scoring at or over 100pts, it says that the offensive is coming relatively easy for our guys, and maybe just 1 or 2 keys stops OR 1 or 2 key shots at the end will seal the deal. Since that hasn’t been the case in this series, the final 12 minutes of each of these games have been painful to watch as a fan for either side, as both teams heave up miss after miss and each make is THAT much more magnified. Get balanced, high scoring and opportunistic, key moment stops. That has been Magic basketball the past 2 years.
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by magicboi407 on Apr 26, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
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