Wojnarowski: After Parting with Rick Adelman, Houston Rockets to Consider Stan Van Gundy for Coaching Vacancy
by Evan Dunlap on Apr 18, 2011 6:35 PM EDT
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Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle reports, and Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports confirms, the Houston Rockets have elected not to retain head coach Rick Adelman, whose contract expired at the end of this season. Further, Wojnarowski says Houston will consider hiring the Orlando Magic's Stan Van Gundy should he become available.
Van Gundy signed a contract extension through the 2012/12 season last summer. He initially joined the Magic prior to the 2007/08 campaign when Billy Donovan, the team's initial hire, asked the team to release him from his obligation so he could return to the University of Florida.
Under Van Gundy, the Magic have appeared in an NBA Finals and two Eastern Conference Finals. They also captured three Southeast Division championships. His career regular-season record with Orlando stands at 222-106 (.677).
However, as Wojnarowski says, Van Gundy could become a coaching free agent this summer if the team elects to clean house: "If Magic are scapegoating, who knows what they'll do?"
The Rockets decided to let Adelman go after four seasons in which injuries to Tracy McGrady and Yao Ming robbed him of star power. Nevertheless, he built elite, motion-based offenses around a cast of roleplayers and finished with a plus-.500 record in each campaign.
To be clear, there's no indication Orlando will fire Van Gundy.
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The idea of cleaning house sounds interesting
The team as-is just seems very stale to me. Depending on how the postseason works out, i could see it as a possibility.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 18, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
The players? Sure. The coach? Not so much. Not at all, actually.
He’s the second-biggest reason for the team’s success over the last four years.
He’s not perfect or anything like that but it’s hard to name too many better coaches.
by Evan Dunlap on Apr 18, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If Dwight was to leave I would only feel better if we kept Van Gundy.
Rebuilding under Van Gundy is a lot better prospect than without him. So “cleaning house” should exclude Stan.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
by cgsimone on Apr 18, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only house cleaning that might take place
would be Otis. Stan has gotten maximum production from every player he has been given so far. I don’t see us being able to move our biggest salary cloggers in Arenas and Hedo, so we are stuck with what we have for at least two years.
I am made of bits of real panther so you know I'm good.
by Eric9321 on Apr 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if the team elects to clean house
and fire SVG in the process, might as well call jerry sloan.haha
what we do in life echoes in eternity
He'll be down for coaching for...
One year? Dude’s old.
I guess we could trade Houston and hire Rick Adelman, since he’ll likely be the best option available if the front office is dumb enough to fire Stan.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
people calling for Stan to leave are idiots
YEAH I WENT THERE
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Apr 18, 2011 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Man I don't know what would be worst. Losing SVG or D12
If I’m SVG though, Kyle Lowry and Kevin Martin. Luis Scola and Brad Miller. Maybe he can save Hasheem Thabeet’s career. What this should show everyone, is in the event we somehow fire our fantastic coach, HE ALREADY HAS A JOB!!! THAT SHOULD TELL YOU HOW GOOD A FREAKING COACH HE IS!!!!
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
He is
But he’s easily replaceable. Dwight is not.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Well...
There’s always coaches out there looking for a job. They may not be necessarily the same caliber as Stan, but they’re somewhat plentiful. Getting the best Center in the NBA though, is much more difficult.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're seriously undervaluing SVG
by waleo on Apr 19, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ugh
I’m not establishing any value to him at all. I’m not talking about him directly. He’s a fantastic coach, and I know it. We’re lucky to have him. I know. I’m merely saying there’s more fish in the coaching sea. We saw Philly get a fantastic coach out of the commentators booth this season. Jerry Sloan is out there. Maybe even Rick Adelman too, depending on whether or not he decides to retire. There are more alternatives when it comes to head coaches than All-Pro Centers. Who’s to say this Orlando team couldn’t be successful under a different coach in a different system?
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
None of those guys are the caliber of SVG.
That’s like saying well we can get Andrew Bogut instead to replace Dwight Howard.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
How do you know that, though?
None of us really do. We’re not in their huddles, meetings and practices. We have little to go off of. We can’t definitively say that one coach is better than the other.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Adelman’s teams gave Shaq & Kobes Lakers hell,Do you remember what his injury ravaged Rockets did to the Lakers before they beat us in the finals? and he’s had plenty of 50 win seasons.He’s on Stans caliber.
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
Very true.
But SVG has only had one season where he did not win 50 games as a minimum. And that was after he took over from Riley. Adelman is a great coach. But he has had a lot of bad teams as well. Just saying.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Again don't take it as though I am saying they are bad coaches.
They are good. But SVG is clearly better. Just look at his coaching seasons. Just because I think one coach is better does not mean I think the others are terrible. It is like the Rose argument. Just because I think Paul is better, does not make me a Rose hater. Just keep things in perspective.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
could not agree more
Give me SVG over Adelman
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
SVG is the anti Stern, I never want him to leave, build him a statue in front of the AM with His middle fingers up, 1 pointed towards Miami the other north, towards the NBA offices in NYC
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
by D-RAK on Apr 19, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The guy has coached for 20 years and only had 2 loosing seasons, both with the Warriors? Stan has NEVER had a team with sub par tallent- til now. lol
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
im not saying his Kings teams were great but they were all above .500 and made the playoffs. again not sayin I’d wanna swap , just sayin I think he’s right there with Stan.
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
And there are always 6-11 centers looking for looking for max contracts.
We can just replace Dwight with one of them, right?
You’re assigning a value to Dwight (best center in the league) but have assigned no value to Van Gundy.
Van Gundy is just about as rare a coach as you can actually hire (most of the good ones who want to coach already have jobs).
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Apr 19, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?? How many elite coaches are there???
4 maybe??? All it takes is one terrible season and the right lottery pick, and BOOM franchise player. Elite players come into the NBA more often then not. Obviously Dwight is a special player and you don’t replace that, but don’t be so quick dismiss SVG. Again teams already want him.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
by Mateo9399 on Apr 19, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not dismissing him
I just believe a head coach is more replaceable than a franchise player. You make it sound like you can go to Walmart and pick up anyone you want, which as we’ve seen, is far from the truth.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Fewer coaches have won titles compared to franchise players
I think we are both right. You just do not find elite coaches at Wal Mart either my friend.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
there are a bunch of teams that would love to have Stan, he is a great coach, I bash him alot but I dont want him to be fired, but lets be real, there may be 1 team that would not gut their whole team to have a chance at Howard, he’s not your avrage #1 overall pick, he is a beast like no other. Replacing D12 is impossible, replacing Stan would be very hard.The offense stinks but the only way Stan is leaving is if Dwight dont want him here.
Stan has gone to war with the NBA and Stern protecting Howard when no one else has. Stan has earned some Criticism and Im quick to give it to him, but fresh off a finals & conf. finals run & not eliminated from the playoffs yet… I think the only person calling for his job might be the guy who left Dwight off the DPoY ballet.
oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG
Does it bother anyone else
that this sort of speculation is going on? I mean where does it end? Why not speculate that Stan and Howard will both go to the Lakers this off-season with Phil leaving? And why would Stan go to a team that fired his brother?
I am made of bits of real panther so you know I'm good.
Yes. It's like we're the "Magic Mart" junkyard of the NBA.
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by Hoop Dreams 2 on Apr 19, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Absolutely bothers me
This is really the downside of what “The Decision” has brought.
I don’t ever recall seeing stories about teams looking to replace a coach with a coach that has been extremely successful, recently signed an extension, and is still coaching the team! No one from the Magic or SVG himself have EVER made any indication that a change would/should be coming no matter what, but screw it, it’s the Magic.
I mean, why isn’t Houston going after Phil Jackson? Doesn’t he have all the rings and no contract for next season.
Oh, that’s right. This is part of the plan to get Dwight, too. Because there is absolutely zero chance Dwight even finishes his contract in Orlando. ESPN told me all about it right after they picked the MVP in December.
The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data."
That would be funny if Dwight ends up on the Rockets.
No fanbase hates on Dwight more than that of the Rox. It would give them no choice but to root for Dwight.
Dwight's watching you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Dwight Howard: Strong as an ox, swift as a gazelle.
I think this is hilarious.
Following this model, I would like to announce that I am interested in securing Scarlett Johannson for a relationship. Sure, I am in a relationship, and so is she, but that shouldn’t stop me from speculating openly about the potential for our getting together, should it?
If Redfield is OPP's best poster, and he's holding something back every night how can you say that doesn't affect OPP? He's their best guy! Your best guy leads! Your best guy sets the tone for everyone else! When Redfield cruises through game threads, makes dumb jokes, earns even dumber recs and disappears during debates (he doesn't even rank in the top 125 for insightful responses to trolls this season), you don't think that has anything to do with OPP's uneven season?
by Redfield on Apr 18, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Get in line for this declaration, sir.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
The "securing" comment makes it even funnier.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Apr 19, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The “securing” part is really important-otherwise there’s the escaping, and then the running, and then eventually the arresting, and the convicting, and the serving of time . . .
(Kidding. Please do not send law enforcement agents to my home.)
If Redfield is OPP's best poster, and he's holding something back every night how can you say that doesn't affect OPP? He's their best guy! Your best guy leads! Your best guy sets the tone for everyone else! When Redfield cruises through game threads, makes dumb jokes, earns even dumber recs and disappears during debates (he doesn't even rank in the top 125 for insightful responses to trolls this season), you don't think that has anything to do with OPP's uneven season?
by Redfield on Apr 19, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd be very disppointed if Van Gundy isn't coaching the Magic next year
Orlando Magic. Oregon Ducks. Seattle Mariners. Jacksonville Jaguars.
Firing Stan is the single stupidest thing the Magic can do.
He’s the second most important “piece” on this team.
Otis Smith
house cleaning ends there.
by wisestfool on Apr 19, 2011 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow. We lost game 1 of series 1 and already the sharks smell blood in the water.
This reminds me of a time when a guy at work did something to embarrass his boss. Before anything else happened, a couple of his co-workers went snooping around his cubicle to see what they could take when/if he was fired.
Keep Stan - Fire Otis
Otis put the pieces around Dwight and he’s made a mess of it. If Dwight leaves it will be because of the lack of help, not coaching.
by sg1108 on Apr 19, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
For some reason, i actually imagine you saying this with a brit accent
Aye, business is business and money is money i never said we were friends.
It's not Stans fault, but he is saddled with this roster and will be a scapegoat
Behind closed doors if the Magic think that keeping Dwight means a coaching change, they will do it.
Reading my posts is a privilege and I will ban anyone who disagrees with me from the Internet for life.
and I am just stating an obvious reason why HOU is thinking they may get SVG
Not trying to be an insider.
Reading my posts is a privilege and I will ban anyone who disagrees with me from the Internet for life.
Ok...
If Stan goes, sign Doc Rivers, which is in a 1 yr contract. I don’t think he’s going to sign again because wants to be home with his kids and wifey in Winter Park. Why not come home and coach us again and the most dominate speciman in the game, Howard.
isn't his last kid finishing HS this year?
"Evan!
Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega
by AB's triple double on Apr 19, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
But take it for what it is worth, rumors are abound that Doc wants to come back to Orlando. Again just what I am hearing. But then again people said LeBron was going to New York, then Chicago then back to Cleveland. But coaching rumors tend to be more accurate, since whoever reports it tends to not have a bias towards coaches and where they coach. Again this is in the event that the Magic go stupid and fire SVG.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
It’s well documented that Doc wants to take a year or two off to attend his childrens’ games and events.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Apr 19, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What? How come no insider reports of teams salivating to steal any of our 2 elite backup PGs?
It’s always about our center and the coach! What about our other pieces?
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
Caracas, Venezuela.
by North of the South on Apr 19, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
I'm sure a few wouldn't mind grabbing the arena.
But beyond that (and Ryan Anderson), we’re a little short on other pieces – literally and figuratively.
The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data."
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