Changes that Need to Happen!
After watching most of this season and the first playoff game, its clear what this team needs, and that is a serious change at three major positions, ....SF, SG and back up PG.
We obviously know Gilbert isn't a back up PG, and more suited for a SG role...When Jameer takes a breather, we have no1 on this team that can really run this offense, i mean Jason Williams looks like a stud compared to what we have now going on.
Secondly, Turk is past his prime. He is too slow and too inconsistent. He can't guard the more athletic Fowards like Pierce, Lebron, Melo, Joe Johnson/Josh Smith by any means and at the same time, doesn't provide enough on offense besides decent spot up shooting and the occasional good pass. I just don't see enough production from him as a whole...the IDEAL person this team needs is a Gerald Wallace at that position or Luol Deng. Fortunately, one of those will be available this summer. Both can score 15 -20 a night no problem, and play great defense. Both can hit spot up threes...defense is the difference between this year and last, given Barnes shut down most players 3 and vince did decent on there 2's and if he didnt Pietrus did fine. We didn't realize that our isolation defense went way down with that trade, and we have no toughness at that position.
Thirdly, Jason Richardson....I love his late game three's and he does play decent defense, and maybe I wouldn't even mention his name had he hit some open shots but Joe Johnson did what he wanted with him Saturday. I don't know if its just a bad match up but these guys need to be able to create their OWN shots and take someone off the dribble. When his three's aren't falling he just doesn't have that much value and unfortunately, Reddick can't guard Joe Johnson either.
Ultimately, I pray for a new CBA, and being able to release players and have a cap. I would get rid of Gilbert, probably have to sign richardson or ray allen two a 2 year deal or so, and then give everythign I can to Wallace for a 3 year deal. Howard literally couldnt be stopped and did everything he could but the rest of the players aside from Jameer just refused to show up. All season long we hear about this "switch" well apparently only two players found it and as a result our defense just stunk. Granted they hit a lot of shots, they had too many open looks and I think we can all agree we have been getting killed by opponents shooting guards all year, Saturday was no exception just that Smith had his way with Hedo as well. This constantly forced Bass to have to help leaving Horford open for those jumpers that he kept hitting.
I'll leave it saying this, if Otis doesn't fix his mess that he created, Dwight SHOULD LEAVE. This group of players don't deserve to play with someone of his level who gives all his effort every game just to have his teammates sh*t the bed.
Granted im very frustrated, but that performance was just awful and makes you wonder, with Donnie Walsh a free agent, i'd bring him in to Orlando in a heartbeat and find a way to get rid of all the fat on this team. If the new CBA, whenever that is, doesn't include the ability to release players, Otis would've just set this team back a good 2-3 years.
Lets hope this team minus Jameer and Dwight find their balls in the next 24 hrs and take game 2 on Tuesday.
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no we didn't but Defense wins championships...and if you look at the teams in the East...
Boston, Heat, Bulls, and Knicks…all have a good SF who can really score…I.E Pierce, Lebron, Deng, and Melo…you honestly think Hedo can stay with any of those guys…Barnes was atleast tough enough to contain them enough where we didnt “have” to double, same with Pietrus…Hedo is our weak link
THE MAGIC ARE THIRD IN DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY. DEFENSE IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
If one more person complains about the defense…..
Evan is gonna shut down the blog
Or he is gonna ban you. Or his head will explode. One of those three options will happen.
"I never look at the points," Howard said. "Rebounds and blocks are what win games for me."
http://www.twitter.com/JShannonhouse3
http://www.twitter.com/Amway_Get_Loud
Not THE problem but is definitely "A" problem.
especially when Dwight leaves………..teehee
D_ _ B _ S _
"I never look at the points," Howard said. "Rebounds and blocks are what win games for me."
http://www.twitter.com/JShannonhouse3
http://www.twitter.com/Amway_Get_Loud
Evan....
Sorry to say but defense is not THE problem but A problem…when you you play the elite teams and have to consistently double 1 to 2 of their elite scores or they take you to the hole every time, thats a problem…Matt Barnes is not an elite defender but name me one person on this starting 5 aside from Dwight that can really shut someone down 1 on 1. If you listen to SVG after the game, defense was exactly the problem.
It was bad for one game
Because their offense was terrible. Their tenacity and effort on defense stumbles when their offense is terrible. But also, the Magic had 18 TO’s. I think it lead to 26 points or somewhere around there. Also Atlanta made an unusual amount of jumpers. Guys they shot 73% over the second and third quarters. If they do that again, then God bless them and good luck with the Bulls.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I agree with this in principle. The team defensive numbers are skewed because of ... you know who ... but we have glaring deficiencies on individual defense in many positions, primarily SG, SF and PF.
I don't agree. Defense isn't a problem for this team.
It would be if Dwight weren’t here. But he is, so it isn’t.
Lost all credibility at...
“Thirdly, Jason Richardson…. he does play decent defense”.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
he actually does try to put a body on the man, watch the lakers game against Kobe before the all star game
Joe Johnson just plays to big for him
Let's assume all suggested changes are valid. How do we go about accomplishing them while being over cap with undesirable players?
losing Gil and Hedo is about 30 million right there...
Jason Richardson took 14 mil this year, def wont get a contract above 8 next year…that right there is nearly 35 million give or take…say we are over by 20 million, you have 15 to go play with
How do we lose Gil and Hedo? They both have 3 more years on their contract, and they are not tradable except if we find one GM comparable to Otis Smith in brain capacity.
I guess the Magic will just trade them to never-never land.
To get rid of those two, another team has to actually want them at their current salary.
come on guys
Cant you tell this is his 2k11 team? what is wrong with you all?
"I never look at the points," Howard said. "Rebounds and blocks are what win games for me."
http://www.twitter.com/JShannonhouse3
http://www.twitter.com/Amway_Get_Loud
or if any of you read what iw as saying...IFFFFFFFFF there is a new cba with a hard cap
that allows us to release players we could cut them
Who knows what the new CBA will be?
We can only make a hard guess that it would favor owners. Even in a hard cap scenario, how many bad contracts do we have to shed? We would be lucky if the new CBA allows cutting one.
Just face it
We are stuck with gilbert. People act like trading or waiving gilbert is easy. At least he is better than duhon. It seems like his mistakes are magnified the most.
Changes that need to happen
1. Sign Chris Paul. Orlando needs an elite PG.
2. Sign Brandon Roy. Orlando needs an elite SG.
3. Sign Kevin Durant. Orlando needs an elite SF.
4. Sign Tim Duncan. Orlando needs some experienced heads.
5. Invent MagicKnees for Paul and Roy. These new, miraculous knees can be inserted in any player and cause them to have full health for the remainder of their careers!
6. Move the city of Orlando to South Beach, to get a bigger TV market and make Orlando a more attractive destination for tourists and free agents.
7. Halve the US national debt tomorrow, just because.
What do you mean, I’m not being realistic?
by eltharion_doa on Apr 19, 2011 1:48 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
woah, i've been on this site for about a good 6 months and its only until you write a post do you realize how dumb half the followers are...
clearly if anyone read what i wrote I said the only way to get out of this is hope for a new CBA that allows teams to release players, in which we could cut some of the fat off our team…by doing so it would give us enough cap room to extend dwight and get another top player who can play ISO defense….GIVING UP OVER 100 PTS to the Hawks at home is a defensive problem. I don’t care if i’m talking to SVG, David Stern, or Evan. Wake up, its not rocket science, teams spread the court, go ISO and more times than not, they win the 1 on 1 battle. You all are moronic if you can’t see that…hence the reason the Heat kept building those huge leads bc they would go back and forth with Wade and LBJ 1 on 1. When you have a guy who scores 31 pts at half and your still down by 7 its bc y ou couldn’t get stops so the Hawks didnt care if dwight killed them because they were scoring at will. Had we gotten stops and built lets say an 8 point lead, you would’ve seen them begin to double dwight, but clearly that didnt happen.
OK, Mr. Wiseman ... before you go further in insulting our inferior intelligence, let me tell you that you are bringing many issues to the table, and it is getting too stuffy for my taste.
You have a point on individual defense which I have already agreed with, in principle. New CBA stuff is all speculation and way ahead of us, or at least that is how I see it. On top of everything, we are in play-offs in a series that is winnable, and why should anybody care debating long-term changes? This would be my last post on this thread, and I better quit before I put myself in a position of getting dumber.
not sure what your speaking about at all...there were two topics...the defense adn the cba...one you agreed and one you said is speculation...how is the cba a long term change? its about to happen this summer and next season, if there is a next season...
you’ll see whatever changes that brings…not very long term bud, but hey, wouldnt want you to get any “dumber” now would we
You're not doing yourself any favors when the people you attack are known as the reasonable people on this site.
Which aligns you with the dumb ones. Well done.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Apr 19, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Am I missing something? When does a new CBA allow for teams to pick and choose which players they are going to dump because they are over the new hard cap?
Is that a dream? Has even happened in another American sport? I am all for it. It would make the summer Free Agency all the more interesting.
Get out of my House!
What people are throwing around is an Allen Houston clause for one player. Google "allen houston clause" or something like "NBA amnesty clause" and you should find it.
If Redfield is OPP's best poster, and he's holding something back every night how can you say that doesn't affect OPP? He's their best guy! Your best guy leads! Your best guy sets the tone for everyone else! When Redfield cruises through game threads, makes dumb jokes, earns even dumber recs and disappears during debates (he doesn't even rank in the top 125 for insightful responses to trolls this season), you don't think that has anything to do with OPP's uneven season?
But from what I read
on ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2112912
that doesn’t allow for Cap relief, just luxury tax relief.
Get out of my House!
nevermind, i see what he means if you extended it to include the actual salary as well. Good luck getting the players to agree to that. That’s a quick gaurantee that guys like Gilbert, Rashard Lewis, Turk, and other overpaid role players will be missing out on roughly 8 mil a piece, unless they include a provision for the former teams to have to provide the difference. (just it doesn’t count against the cap) and how many would a team be allowed? if the it is two you’re talking a major redistribution in NBA, which I’m not against. role players get paid too much anyways.
Get out of my House!
The players were still paid the full value of their contracts
Under the Allan Houston rule, which would presumably be the model for salary cap relief in a new CBA, so they’d lose nothing – in fact they’d actually get much more money, given most waived players would be able to sign a new contract with another team.
by eltharion_doa on Apr 22, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions

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