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Orlando Magic 95, Philadelphia 76ers 85

In a bizarre game with some mind-bending stats, the Orlando Magic defeated the Philadelphia 76ers, 95-85, behind Ryan Anderson's 18-point, 14-rebound effort off the bench. The result clinched the seventh seed in the East for Philadelphia, which played without high-scoring reserve guard Lou Williams and franchise swingman Andre Iguodala.

Orlando scored 30 points in the first period on 6-of-7 shooting from three-point range, and may have taken a run at a 40-point quarter were it not for a string of inexplicable turnovers. Chester, PA native Jameer Nelson, who distributed tickets to 400 family, friends, and youth organizations, shot 3-of-3 on threes in the period, getting his team off to a hot start.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic85112.150.6%17.545.221.2
76ers8698.645.7%12.217.812.8
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Even stranger, Orlando held a 17-2 rebound advantage in the first period, an edge which at one point reached even more comedic proportions at 25-2 in the early stages of the second quarter. If the Sixers could simply have grabbed a rebound early in the game, they might have pulled out this victory. As it is, their second unit helped them keep it competitive in the second period, and for stretches of the fourth, against the Magic's depleted bench.

And that last point is why I don't want to take too much from this game. With Gilbert Arenas, J.J. Redick, and Quentin Richardson unavailable, Orlando had to play some truly goofy lineups. How does a backcourt featuring Nelson at the point and Chris Duhon at the off-guard sound to you? How about Hedo Turkoglu at shooting guard, with Earl Clark, Anderson, and Bass up front? We may never see these groups again, which is probably for the best.

Though Dwight Howard didn't have one of his better offensive games (19 points on just 6-of-13 shooting), he nonetheless filled the highlight reels with three of his better dunks of the season, including this monstrous fastbreak throwdown against Jrue Holiday. The Sixers point guard had his back to Howard the whole play, and Howard banged hard on him with one hand thanks to a lob from Nelson.

Turnovers killed the Magic early, as they committed 12 in the first half; they managed to get their offense a bit more under control in the second, which is to be commended, especially against a team as active and athletic as Philadelphia. I shudder to think of what Iguodala may have been able to do had he been healthy enough to disrupt Orlando's offense tonight.

The other sore spot for Orlando? Defending Elton Brand, who scored 22 points on 9-of-15 shooting to lead Philadelphia. Brand's a lethal jump-shooter, and as is usually the case against the Magic, Orlando's defense didn't do much to a) bump him off his preferred spots at the elbows and baselines or b) discourage the Sixers from passing to him. Fortunately, Brand proved to be the only Sixer capable of filling it up reliably tonight; Holiday scored 15 points on 16 shots, while Andres Nocioni scored only 2 of his 13 after halftime.

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Nelson's five three pointers made ties his career game-high

…which was set on five other occasions.

Ryan Anderson’s 14 rebounds is the second-most rebounds he’s ever had in a game, and the seven offensive rebounds ties for the second-most in his career in a game.

Jameer Nelson has been consistently good offensively his last seven games, averaging 18.1 ppg on 48.5% FG shooting, including 15 of 32 on three pointers (46.9%) and 18 of 19 on free throws (94.7%) for an eFG% of 56.2% and a TS% of 60.3%. Pretty efficient numbers for a seven game span.

Nelson is also averaging 6.9 assists to 3.1 turnovers during this span. Ten combined turnovers in the last two games is unusually high for him, though.

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by Mike from Illinois on Apr 12, 2011 5:56 AM EDT reply actions  

We really need Jameer to put up his typical playoff production.

Great stats, as always.

"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07

by slickw143 on Apr 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the good news is

that the Hawks’ PG defense isn’t good. And then beyond there:

- Rose is not one of the Bulls’ stronger defenders.
- Unless the Heat switch Wade onto Jameer, they don’t have a gifted defender at the point.
- …and okay, the Celtics have Rondo.

But unless the Magic play the Celtics, Jameer will have plenty of opportunities to contribute on offense.

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

What scares me about the Heat is Wade and LeBron shooting 20+ FT each. Not sure if it is mathematically possible, but the threat of them getting calls spooks me. Also we might be forced to play a little small with Turk at the 4 or Turk not at all in a series against Miami. I just don’t like Matchups with Miami.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would we play small against Miami?

If we’re going to beat Miami, it’s by attacking their big men. (And PGs.) They don’t have a center or a PF who can play defense.

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turk guarding LeBron spooks me.

But we need his ability to create. I like Q on Bron. Obviously not 48 mintues, but do you think we could get by with Turk on Bosh? Then that takes away Anderson or Bass. What do you think we will do matchup wise against them? I am trying to find a nice mixture of creating, defending, rebounding, size, etc

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Turk's length could bother Lebron

But yeah, in spurts. I don’t trust Hedo on Lebron all game

[insert clever signature here]

by nastynate2012 on Apr 12, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

...and you're the girl on the blog. sigh

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is why this blog is full of win

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to choose? Turk on Bron every time.

Because a) neither one of them is going to keep up with the guy athletically, so we might as well have someone who’s tall, and

b) Turk isn’t an abject disaster on the offensive end of the floor.

Seriously, Q is an average defender at best. If you’re going to play a guy with no offensive skills whatsoever for his defense, he’d better be a shut-down defender.

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

And when Turk is engaged he plays decent defense

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wait for the return of Agent 0

Im keeping my fingers crossed that The Otis Smith gamble works for us and we get Agent 0 back.

by space-ghost on Apr 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he steals a game for us, I'll be happy.

Arenas needs to hurry up and shoot himself (out of this slump).

by Mr.Hoss on Apr 12, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a greater chance that David Stern simply gives the Magic a bye to the NBA Finals.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Apr 12, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

zzzzzzzzz

It can be playoffs tiems nao?

by eltharion_doa on Apr 12, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Didn't Simmons say he wouldn't pay to see Dwight?

I mean, I can’t even describe what Dwight did to poor Jrue
Holiday

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Simmons

said “I have NBA season tickets and didn’t care if I saw Dwight Howard in person this season.” That’s not exactly the same as saying he wouldn’t pay to see him. It’s more like saying he wouldn’t cancel other plans, or circle the date on the calendar.

by Tim S. on Apr 12, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well he would have missed that.

Funny how you Bulls fans love Simmons but hate Cowherd. I like both, but most Orlando fans hate both. Simmons basically meant he didn’t care to watch Orlando. Well if you don’t care to watch Orlando than I am not sure how you love basketball or entertainment. SVG is must see and Dwight is well Dwight.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I was just reporting.

I love Simmons for his humor, but often think he’s off the mark or contradictory with his analysis. I didn’t endorse what he said in that article.

by Tim S. on Apr 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks Evan is too lenient with the ban hammer?

JuiceBoxJerry, Tim S., BAB=Bass and piccolomair come in and insult OPP posters and Evan and still are allowed to pollute this board? I, for one, think we should not have to put up with the illogical, irrational, argumentative invaders.

I vote to ban the bunch of them.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Quote of the Week: "Humans only use twenty per cent of their brains, and the other eighty percent is what winds up on Blog-A-Bull."
"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim S. didn't say anything trollish up there

But Juicebox and BAB=Bass are really annoying

[insert clever signature here]

by nastynate2012 on Apr 12, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

BAB-Bass was absolutely horrible, and provided nothing except to sound like an even dumber version of Reggie Miller talking about basketball.

"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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by slickw143 on Apr 12, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apologies to Tim S. , the polite troll. Get rid of the others.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Quote of the Week: "Humans only use twenty per cent of their brains, and the other eighty percent is what winds up on Blog-A-Bull."
"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semantics.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

A Bulls troll posting on a game recap of the Sixers………..pathetic

"Evan!
Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega

by AB's triple double on Apr 12, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm interested in the Magic.

I fully expect to see them beat the Hawks and play the Bulls. And I don’t see anything trollish about my comment — someone asked what Simmons said and I answered.

by Tim S. on Apr 12, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recap: Magic 95, 76ers 85

Jrue Holiday dared to outreach Dwight Howard on an alley-oop play. Posterization ensued. The end.

by RL Magic on Apr 12, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That dunk was just sick!

D12’s interview was great. “Let’s have a moment of silence for Jrue.”

by space-ghost on Apr 12, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Offensive Rebounds

Evan the offensive rebounds box stats should be green, correct?

by HustlerInc on Apr 12, 2011 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that was the best part

That or the Philly Kid’s reaction. Dwight was angry last night. Passionate……I mean Dwight be calm, be like Rose. No emotion. Don’t you know that’s how you win?

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The lack of Defense drives me mad..

to see so many Magic players just LOOKING at shots go up with no Contesting, no hands is mind blowing. Not to mention the turnovers… My gosh, the Turnovers are gonna kill us!

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

So wait they score 86 points and you are worried about the defense?

Please stop being the dumbest magic fan in the world

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turnovers are a real issue.

Better teams score on turnovers, 76’s, not so much.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Quote of the Week: "Humans only use twenty per cent of their brains, and the other eighty percent is what winds up on Blog-A-Bull."
"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering how awful of a shooting team Philly is, I would let them jack up shots all day too.

They are tied for 18th in effective FG% and the difference between Philly’s eFG% and Milwaukee’s is less than it is between Orlando and Philly. That is to say, they are closer to shooting like the Bucks than they are Orlando.

"I never look at the points," Howard said. "Rebounds and blocks are what win games for me."
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by JeffShann3 on Apr 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a second there, Holiday almost had the Rock..

But Howard kept rising and took it away from his fingertips and made him into a Poster..

Wow… Well at least he can tell his grandkids that he got Dunked on by DH!

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

"dumbest magic fan in the world"??

You gotta be joking.. 86 points? So What? Defense wins games. On top of that, Turnovers hurt us and will even more come playoff time!

-I’ll let you marinate with your childish comment and get back to you once the playoffs starts.

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

The defense for orlando is elite

3rd best in the league. What more do you want from a team that plays Turk and Gil at the same time. Nobody but Q and Clark are above average defenders, and yet we are 3rd in defense. Defense and Rebound win in the playoffs? Orlando is the 3rd best defense and the best defensive rebounding team in the league. So yes you are dump saying the defense is terrible. If the Magic lose in the playoffs it will be because their OFFENSE either turned the ball over too much, or they were inconsistent. Defense and rebounding are not this team’s problem.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The whole comment is a fail.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

not unusual.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Quote of the Week: "Humans only use twenty per cent of their brains, and the other eighty percent is what winds up on Blog-A-Bull."
"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

"They have blog troll"

We really need the Fellowship here to slay this troll. I know Evan once told me he is not a troll, but there is difference between debating/arguing and then just saying stupid stuff.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So lack of "D" and "Turnover problems" are a sign of a troll?

Look, hate if you want. But I know what I saw.. Brand shooting, Bass looking with no hands in Brands face. The same can be said for Turk, Rich and Nelson last night. And Turnovers… Need I go on?

I think you’re Hatred or Dislike for me comes from the fact that I like Defense, Rebounding and Driving more than chucking up threes.. SO WHAT? Get over it.

“We really need the Fellowship here to slay this troll”

-SO Childish… LOL, the “Fellowship of the OPP” LOL!

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Ok

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff/order/false
Where are the magic in terms of defense?

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defReboundRate
Where are the Magic in terms of defensive rebounding?

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/reboundRate
Where is Orlando in terms of overall rebounding?

Yes. You are stupid.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Your eyes lie to you to sometimes.

Stats may not tell the whole story, but Magic are an ELITE defensive team and rebounding team.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of that is because of Dwight Howard.

I wouldn’t call the rest of the team “Elite” when it comes to playing “D”, or Rebounding.
DH averages 14.1 RB’s a Game compared to Bass (5.6) and Anderson (5.5). They dont even come close to his SPG or Blocks.. No one on the team does. Sorry but Elite defensive team is laughable. Howard IS Elite, the rest of the team is just along for the ride.

Atlanta, though they Rebound less have 2 players that average more rebounds and blocks than Bass/Anderson. So yeah, stats don’t tell the whole story. Like I said before, wait ’till the Playoffs.

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well who does Dwight Howard play for??

I didn’t know we had two separate teams in Orlando…..

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we are elite because Dwight plays on our team?

That was the worst argument I have ever seen. Seriously what the hell are you trying to say????

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't consider the Magic an ELITE defensive team.

I consider DWIGHT HOWARD an ELITE DEFENSIVE PLAYER.

The rest of the team, not so much. Stats just tell part of the story.

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well he plays for the Orlando Magic basketball TEAM

He wears their jersey. He plays in their arena. He gets paid by their owner. His face is on their shirts, advertising, and anything Orlando Magic related. You are also disrespecting SVG and his system. Dwight is an elite defender no matter what, but SVG’s system is a known commodity in the NBA. You are the only person who does not at least respect what SVG does. The fact that Orlando has had 4 straight top 3 defenses is a credit to SVG. Stop talking like you know what you are saying. You are literally an embarrassment to Orlando fans. If this gets me a warning or a month ban I don’t really care. You literally have no idea what you are saying. None. You are a detriment to Orlando Magic fans. A waste of fan.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boy, you're sure on the Warpath today..

First, I despise SVG’s Offense, not Defense. Saying the credit goes to SVG for Defense is crazy. his matchup game needs work. (J.Rich on James, ‘Melo ring a bell?) Howard is why the defense is like that. All of the shots he alters and just his presence alone greatly improves our defense. How many times have opponents funneled their man towards him? -Too many. That’s not Defense, that’s POOR Defense.

What was the Magic’s defense like prior to getting DW? -Trash, I’d bet. You are also disrespecting DH and his game!

“You are literally an embarrassment to Orlando fans”

“Please stop being the dumbest magic fan in the world”
“We really need the Fellowship here to slay this troll”
“Yes. You are stupid.”
“A waste of fan.”

-Really?

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

I say Dwight is an elite defensive player, but I am disrespecting him. So you don’t want our guys funneling their man towards the best defensive player in the world? Read what you are typing. Very slowly. Really slowly. And then re read it. Also SVG has put Q on both Melo and LeBron heavily in those games. Please go rewatch those games. And then rewatch them again. And lastly SVG’s offense. Again he has another top 10 offense. SVG has 4 straight years of top 10 offense and defense with Orlando. Proess that little bit of information. Meditate on it. Then accept how stupid you are looking. If you want to say Turnovers are a problem, we ALL agree. But SVG does not handle the ball. SVG does not pass the ball. SVG does not dribble the ball. SVG does not just through the ball out of bounds for no reason. The turnovers are the player’s fault. When you are the only person who argues that SVG has a poor offense, something might be wrong. Seriously the fact that you never say anything that makes sense is just….no word to describe it.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am positive the undiscovered indigenous tribes deep in the Amazon know more about basketball than you do.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Apr 12, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know I am brash and passionate about what I believe

Matt1325, and 3.3 can attest to that, but when I am wrong I will admit it. But what this guy is saying, it just does not make any sense.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

(my comment was to REP96st, not you)

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Apr 12, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

i was just mentionting it to you. More of a broad general statement to OPP

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

DWIGHT HOWARD

Jameer cant guard
Jrich cant guard
Turk cant or wont guard.. ask Dirk
Bass cant guard
DWIGHT IS THE DEFENSE
The offense…is offensive thats on coaching staff
Gil & Duhon… can we sign Larry Hues to complete the backcourt butcherism trifecta?

oh man Vareajo is bleeding! SO WHAT! BLOOD CLENSES THE SOUL-JVG

by D-RAK on Apr 12, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Jameer's an above-average team defender.

Yes, he would be pretty bad in a one-on-one playground game. But he’s not playing a one-on-one playground game, he’s playing basketball. And in basketball, you use your teammates.

Playing smart is two-thirds of success in basketball… you don’t blame a guy for taking an open shot, just because another guy could have made that shot with a hand in his face. If anything, you blame the hand-in-the-face guy for taking that risk.

But you blame a guy for forcing bad shots by funneling his opponent into the right places, just because another guy could’ve outrun the opponent.

Why is it offense can be smart, but defense has to be a bunch of tough-guy one-on-one bravado?

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is dumb, this gets dumber

Aye, business is business and money is money i never said we were friends.

by 4QB on Apr 12, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone still upset that the Magic essentially traded Courtney Lee for Ryan Anderson?

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by KingJafi on Apr 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

If Redfield is OPP's best poster, and he's holding something back every night how can you say that doesn't affect OPP? He's their best guy! Your best guy leads! Your best guy sets the tone for everyone else! When Redfield cruises through game threads, makes dumb jokes, earns even dumber recs and disappears during debates (he doesn't even rank in the top 125 for insightful responses to trolls this season), you don't think that has anything to do with OPP's uneven season?

by Redfield on Apr 12, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I think we want both.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naw, I'm fine with just Ryan.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss CLee

but Ryan’s really worked out well for us

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Apr 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is funny is that no matter what we were to get Anderson draft night.

No matter what, it seemed like he should always have been on the Magic roster.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, really.

Would Lee even play for the Magic? We have J-Rich and JJ, and Lee can’t play SF or PG. If he did play, he’d be taking minutes away from a comparably talented player.

We need another SG like we need another PF… if you’re going to wish for a backup we don’t have, why not a guy who can play small forward or center?

(Me, I just hope next year is the year they say all right, Ryan Anderson is our power forward, let’s go with that. Enough fooling around.)

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

CLee is the exact kind of player we are missing right now

A perimeter stopper that has the athleticism to finish at the rim. If he were still on this team we could negate the need fo play Ducon/Gill with a line up of Lee/Redick/Hedo. If I remember correctly Lee did a pretty good job on LeBron

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Unless guys want J Rich at the 3.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

If everyone were healthy he would most likely be Hedo Turkoglu’s sub at SF. If I remember correctly J-Rich was essentially our 2nd SFsince Redick would come in for Hedo. Lee would be far better defending opposing SFs than Rich can.

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee is 6'3".

If you want him defending Pierce and LeBron than… okay.

"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07

by slickw143 on Apr 12, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Courtney Lee is 6'5"...

Then Jameer Nelson is 6’0".

"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07

by slickw143 on Apr 13, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always wanted to play in the NBA so I could be 6' 3"

Instead, I’m stuck in the real world at 6’1".

The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data."

by EnnBee on Apr 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

and J-Rich can?

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 13, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

to fantastic results....

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 13, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It worked during the 9 game winning streak..........

to fantastic results…………Now he has been a little nicked up. Stop fretting.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Magic are plus 139 in 358 minutes with J-Rich at the 3

which is fantastic!

For comparison the Magic are plus 218 in 1,136 minutes with Turk at the 3.

Per 100 minutes with J-Rich plus 38.8; with Turk plus 19.2.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop using data.

It makes you look smart.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, should I go back to D-Rose jokes?

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 13, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be funnier

Shame on you for being correct about things.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clee is a bench player on a lackluster houston team

Anderson is a bench/sometimes starter on the 4th best team in the best conference in the nba. Anderson’s 3 shooting ability and effort on the boards trumps anything Clee has on defense. Orlando definitely came out on the better end of that deal.

by space-ghost on Apr 12, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah MP is the one guy we could used during this playoff run. his trade to PHO was not precipitated by the fact we traded Lee though.

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by KingJafi on Apr 12, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I still dont understand why we would give up Pietrus

Outside of Gerald Wallace, he was one of the best defenders of one LeBron James

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... I miss Pietrus.

He was a great interview too.

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by slickw143 on Apr 12, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder how much impact was felt in the locker room with his departure

Did the fun leave the building?

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumor is the locker room improved greatly after the trade.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wished that would translate to more wins

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Apr 12, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Marcin and Vince being a problem, but not Peaches.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word is Pietrus and SVG had problems.

Stan flew to France to try to make friends, but Pietrus only wanted to shoot threes and ignore any designed plays.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 12, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whaaat? Wow, never knew that.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah apparently MP wanted out since the Finals. quietly demanded a trade, never made it public, but didn’t want to play for Stan anymore.

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by KingJafi on Apr 13, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see Dwight's press conference last year after the Boston loss??

“We need to get guys who want to play hard, or they need to leave” Or something like that. Dwight did not want VC here. He has said he never wanted the Finals team broken up. I think Rashard was traded only because Otis knew he was done and he wanted to open minutes for Bass and Anderson. I could see MP getting mad because he was not starting over Matt Barnes. Behind Turk he could probably understand, but was probably mad about being behind Barnes.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry Matt, you’re wrong here. If you pay attention to my posts/comments on here, I don’t really throw out rumors or make statements like the one above if its based on some fan gossip. There’s a good amt of validity in my statement, trust me.

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by KingJafi on Apr 13, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was not reporting fan gossip

Dwight said last year after the Boston loss, he wanted players who were going to play hard, if not they needed to leave. He said the same thing after the Denver game. What Dwight said is what Dwight said.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Process of elimination

Jameer is besy friend, he always praises Bass, Anderson didn’t play last year, we know its not JJ, and he always liked Gortat. He might have meant Matt Barnes, he is gone, he might have meant Peaches, he is gone, he might have meant Vince, he is gone. And he has been through everything with Lewis, no way he would throw the guy who was his second banana on title worthy team under the bus. At some point you run out of options. He did say guys so maybe he meant Barnes, Peaches, and VC. All are gone.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. Those comments were clearly directed at VC or Barnes or both.

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by KingJafi on Apr 13, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barnes was a little injured in that playoff series.

I might give Barnes a pass. But clearly Otis was finished with Barnes.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 13, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must have access to sources other than public reports, then.

Otherwise, we are both looking at the same reports, and I don’t give too much weight to Sentinel’s reports, as I know neither do you. Reports on disagreements between SVG and MP were merely a conflict within the team. Those conflicts happen and, as you know, resolving conflicts is part of management’s job, or coach/management in the case on hand. I believe only some narrow-minded posters on this blog – who would not be named – may suggest that at the sight slightest conflict, the player has to be moved. Coach Van Gundy is too good of a coach – and a players’ coach for that matter – to give up so easily on settling issues with players in proper manner.

by Matt1325 on Apr 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two offseasons, a season, and a month and a half of a season…I’d say that’s not easily giving up. MP is a professional guy and handled the whole matter in a way I think all pro athletes should.

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by KingJafi on Apr 13, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.

But even disregarding any arguments etc., it’s tough to argue that Pietrus ever showed much interest in playing within a team concept on offense. The guy consistently made dumb plays… it’s a shame, because he had (and still has) the talent to be a very good player, but he had become a liability on the court by the time he was dealt.

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pietrus, Van Gundy Exchange Words: Mickael Pietrus sat on the bench and watched as the Orlando Magic beat up on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Despite the fact that his team was up by more than thirty points, the small forward had yet to check in the game.

Finally, with the fourth quarter about the start, Pietrus got onto the floor with the Magic leading by thirty-nine points. But less than four minutes later, J.J. Redick was subbing back in and Pietrus was pulled.

Frustrated with his lack of playing time, Pietrus exchanged words with head coach Stan Van Gundy as he headed back to the bench. When Van Gundy tried to offer some Pietrus some criticism, the small forward responded, “Well, f**k you” – as was clearely visible from the bench.

He spent the rest of the evening sitting on the end of the bench pouting and did not check back into the game. On Thursday, Van Gundy explained what happened.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17820#ixzz1JQYff45C

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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"We can't win at home. We can't win on the road. As general manager, I just can't figure out where else to play." - Pat Williams, Orlando Magic general manager, on his team's 7-27 record in 1992-

by Both_Teams_Played_ on Apr 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It clearly was past a boiling point at that juncture.

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by KingJafi on Apr 13, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

VC being the big one

And maybe Peaches

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

L'accent

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by 44792212 on Apr 12, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic Turnover ratio is 24.8...

Is that the highest of any team going into the playoffs? That’s a Problem.

by REP96st on Apr 12, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

They haven't played a meaningful game in awhile.

I will give you that the TOs have been a problem all year, but I think a lot of that is focus. I was at the Bulls game Sunday and it just seemed to me like they cared a lot more in that game. They were diving after loose balls, scraping for rebounds, and other than Jameer trying to create something that wasn’t there (because Dwight was nowhere to be found on the roll off the pick – obviously) they didn’t turn it over that much. Only 13 to be exact. In a high possession game. There were 21 FTs and 81 shot attempts, to go along with the 13 TOs. Not bad.

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by JeffShann3 on Apr 12, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have said if Orlando loses in the playoffs

It will be because the offense was inconsistent and/or the turn overs were too much. Are you actually reading what i am typing.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please stop posting about how hard the Magic suck

and go post a Blog-a-Bull. You’ll fit right in. If you don’t want to that then be a Magic fan. Fan (person)
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Jameer to D-Rose - "See you in the second round."

by Shadyka on Apr 12, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic's defensive rebounding percentage is 76.7%.

That’s the highest of any team, playoffs or no.

(etc.)

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwight seemed to be excited to be back from the suspension.

He looked downright angry there for a little while. Maybe it was the beard.

The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy

by cgsimone on Apr 12, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

It was the beard.

Jameer to D-Rose - "See you in the second round."

"As I was in the air, I was talking to him," Howard said to laughter. "Jameer, what did I tell him in mid-air?"

"Don't jump," Magic guard Jameer Nelson(notes) said.

"I don't know why he jumped," Howard said. "He wanted to be in the poster with me because we both wear [the same brand of shoes]."

by Shadyka on Apr 12, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was very pissed last night.

Just pure anger and rage. He has been more Hulk than Superman. I felt bad for that rim. Hope it didn’t take it personally.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the Bill Simmons’ article found its way to him? I’d be pretty pissed if someone I didn’t really know announced to an audience that big that he thought I was mailing it in most of the time . . .

If Simmons sets Dwight off, and Dwight wins a championship, do that mean we owe our championship to . . . (gulp) . . . Simmons?

If Redfield is OPP's best poster, and he's holding something back every night how can you say that doesn't affect OPP? He's their best guy! Your best guy leads! Your best guy sets the tone for everyone else! When Redfield cruises through game threads, makes dumb jokes, earns even dumber recs and disappears during debates (he doesn't even rank in the top 125 for insightful responses to trolls this season), you don't think that has anything to do with OPP's uneven season?

by Redfield on Apr 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I think he was mad about not getting some calls. Off the Turk miss he went back and it looked like he was telling Turk about not getting a call before. He was just malicious(spelling?) last night. Like the 6ers TV guy said, “Hide the women and children”

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even worse

If that happened would Simmons be right?

[insert clever signature here]

by nastynate2012 on Apr 12, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

possible.

I like Simmons. I think his basketball analysis is too emotional based though. He grew up during the Larry Bird era. To me, he loves basketball and the Celtics more than any of the other sports.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate that Simmons said that

Now if Dwight goes off in the playoffs Simmons can point and say, “see I was right!” and if Dwight doesn’t go off in the playoffs Simmons (or others) can question his game anyway

[insert clever signature here]

by nastynate2012 on Apr 12, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwight always "goes off" in the playoffs.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Apr 12, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems to me

that the rest did him some good. You know what a tough, interminable grind the NBA season is, especially for a guy who plays as many minutes as Dwight, and spends most of those minutes getting knocked around under the basket. Give him a couple days off to get his muscles and joints back in order, and it’s no surprise he looks refreshed.

Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.

by 3.3seconds on Apr 12, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes sir.

Which is why I like Orlando in the playoffs a lot. No back to back, not 3 games in 4 nights, not flights every other day. Dwight will have proper rest the entire playoffs. As will everyone else on the team. Really like our chances.

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by Mateo9399 on Apr 12, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is a high expectation for Gil

Arenas needs to hurry up and shoot himself (out of this slump).

by Mr.Hoss on Apr 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

“As I was in the air, I was talking to him,” Howard said to laughter. “Jameer, what did I tell him in mid-air?”
“Don’t jump,” Magic guard Jameer Nelson said.
“I don’t know why he jumped,” Howard said. “He wanted to be in the poster with me because we both wear [the same brand of shoes].”

R.I.P. Jrue Holiday.

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