Orlando Magic 99, Miami Heat 96
Torrid three-point shooting led the Orlando Magic back from a 24-point deficit against the Miami Heat on Thursday night, with the Magic prevailing by a 99-96 final when Chris Bosh and LeBron James missed three-point tries on the final Heat possession. Jason Richardson led Orlando with 24 points on 9-of-14 shooting, and 6-of-8 from deep, but he was hardly the only Magic player who had his three-point stroke going. Indeed, Gilbert Arenas and Ryan Anderson hit three triples each off the Magic's bench, with Arenas drilling two less than 80 seconds apart in the telltale fourth quarter.
Miami's strategy heading into the game was to "swarm" Dwight Howard inside with multiple, aggressive help defenders coming from various angles. It sure kept Howard down, as Orlando's franchise center used 13 shooting possessions in 40 minutes, but it also opened up his teammates beyond the arc. The drastic extent to which the Magic shot better on threes (55.2 percent) than twos (42.9 percent) attests to Miami's need to rethink its defensive approach, which the Magic leveraged against it. The Heat were hoist by their own petard.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic | 86 | 115.1 | 59.2% | 21.1 | 22.9 | 18.6 |
| Heat | 86 | 111.6 | 48.7% | 30.7 | 21.6 | 14.0 |
| Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average; red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average. | ||||||
Orlando started the game well enough, with Jameer Nelson orchestrating a high pick-and-roll attack that led to easy scores for Richardson (an in-rhythm jumper), Brandon Bass (a reverse dunk), two pullup jumpers for Nelson, and an alley-oop to a back-cutting Richardson. The Heat couldn't really keep Nelson from getting to where he wanted to.
Unfortunately for the Magic, the same could be said for their coverage of LeBron James and Dwyane Wade. The megastars combined for 47 first-half points--more than Orlando managed as a team--in a variety of ways. They both had their usually iffy jumper going, which tends to mean "good night, and thanks for playing" for opposing defenses. It nearly did tonight as well, but the Heat's offense died a grotesque death in the second half when the Magic cut down on their transition chances and forced Miami to try beating them off the dribble. We ought to file the film of Orlando's fourth-quarter defense somewhere for reference whenever anyone asks for proof this team can win a championship. To bottle up two of the world's three best players like that takes a lot of skill, effort, energy, will... all the good, intangible sorts of things the Magic seemed to have in spades tonight.
The 24-point comeback is really something else, isn't it? To pull that off, on the road, against a team of Miami's caliber? Appreciate it, sure, but don't lose sight of the fact that the Magic could have had a less exciting, but probably more meaningful, win had they not trailed by such a big margin in the first place. That entails taking better care of the ball, rotating on defense, and (obviously) making shots.
Every game is but one of 82 in theory, but in practice--in the narrative terms in which we define our world--games like tonight's mean more. So it's worth noting that in the fourth quarter, with his team needing anything he could provide in order to prevent a near-historic collapse, James took just two shots in 9 minutes, missing them both and going scoreless. Howard scored just 4 points (on 4-of-4 free-throw shooting, without any shot attempts from the field), but blocked three shots and pulled in 10 rebounds. Again, that's three blocks and 10 rebounds in one period of play for Howard.
Also worth noting: that Orlando took Chris Bosh once again completely out of his game. Bosh, who used to torment the Magic as a Toronto Raptor, has yet to assert himself against Orlando since joining the Heat. He played 40 minutes, but scarcely made an impact, missing 10 of his 15 shots and pulling in 5 boards. Magic backup Ryan Anderson outscored him, 15-13, on 5 fewer shot attempts, and pulled in as many rebounds, in 17 fewer minutes. The Heat need to find ways to get Bosh involved offensively, instead of letting Wade and James overdribble. I don't think Bass or Anderson can guard him one-on-one in the post, for instance. That's something the Heat might look into exploiting.
For the second straight game, Orlando turned Quentin Richardson loose on an opponent's high-scoring wing player. He brought his usual above-average defense against James, primarily in the second half, to great effect. Richardson's final line won't impress--3 points and 2 rebounds in 16 minutes?--but James' quiet second half didn't, either. And that's mostly on Richardson.
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What an amazing game!!!
It’s an instant classic for sure!
Orlando Magic. Oregon Ducks. Seattle Mariners. Jacksonville Jaguars.
Incredible win.
I was watching this game and as Miami’s lead kept growing, I was just thinking more and more that the best thing that could come out of it was to see what lineups would be best defensively and who should guard who if we have to play them in the playoffs. Then J-Rich and Gil got us close and the game got real again. Then Q came in w/ another big spark off the bench, hustling and frustrating Lebron into TO’s. Then Dwight went all Shaqtastic and was passing the ball out of the post perfectly to open shooters (season high 5 assists).
After all that, I was actually sweating a little as the game got down to the final two minutes.
Unbelievable. Awesome win, cant wait to see what happens tomorrow night against Chicago. I just hope there isn’t a huge emotional let down after tonight’s draining win.
Im down with OPP, yeah you know me!
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We'll see how 'Superman' Howard really is.
He’s been playing out of his mind lately, and put in 45 mins. last night. He didn’t stack the stat sheet like he sometimes can, but he worked hard all game and was again the league’s premiere defensive player.
The guy is built like no one else in the world, but doing a back-to-back like this one has got to wear on the guy. Luckily he’ll be covered/covering Noah most of the time, who’s not generally someone who can wear down Howard.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Mar 4, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
and to Evan's comments about not being a good idea to swarm Dwight....
This is what I tweeted back to Josh Robbins when he said that’d be Miami’s strategy tonight: “@JoshuaBRobbins dont know if that’ll be a good idea. Unless it forces Dwight into a TON more TOs than normal, it’ll leave shooters wide open”
So obviously I get a gold star….or a cookie.
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Glad to see Dwight got 5 assists as well.
It shows you how potent our offense can be when the threes are falling, but I wouldn’t count on hitting 55% of our threes in the future.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Mar 4, 2011 7:20 AM EST up reply actions
Ask Cleveland.
When you are as wide open as they were last night you have to hit your 3’s. That is what Otis and SVG have been saying. Make your open shots.
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Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 4, 2011 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Great win
Glad QRich plays well in this role and has not given up after sitting so many games.
One of those nights...
when you go out the door… look up at those beautiful stars and shout out LOUD: “THANK YOU”!!!
and reading each one of your in-game narratives is indeed, something to remember!
Thanks guys, for a Night to Remember… GO MAGIC!
I missed the best part
Left the bar in disgust at halftime. Didn’t want to waste money on beer watching Orlando get crushed… I couldn’t believe my eyes when I went to check the recap and found out the Magic won.
Huge win for sure. A loss tonight would have locked the Magic into 2nd place in the SE. Now there’s hope, especially with Miami’s upcoming schedule getting a whole lot tougher.
A truly Magical comeback... Believe in Magic!
Miami led 73-49 with 8:57 remaining in the third. Here are the numbers for the remaining 20:57 of the game:
Orlando outscored Miami 50-23, with Miami shooting 8 of 34 (23.5%), including 1 of 11 on threes (9.1%) and 6 of 13 on free throws (46.1%) along with 7 turnovers for an eFG% of 25% and a TS% of 29%. Wade and James combined to shoot 2 of 12 from the field and 2 of 6 on free throws for 6 points.
During that same time, the Magic shot 15 of 29 (51.7%), including 9 of 14 on threes (64.3%) and 11 of 12 on free throws (91.7%) for an eFG% of 67.2% and a TS% of 72.9%.
Miami went 6:23 without scoring in the fourth quarter, with the Magic going on a 18-0 run in that time.
The 16 Magic three point field goals was the 13th time in franchise history that they have made at least 16 three pointers in a game, with all but one of those games coming in the Stan Van Gundy era.
The 16 Magic three point field goals tied for second for the most three pointers in a game by a Heat opponent, with the Magic also holding the top spot.
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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 4, 2011 3:44 AM EST reply actions
Also, the 24 point Magic comeback win was the second-best in franchise history
Their best comeback win was from a 25 point deficit, according to ESPN.
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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 4, 2011 4:54 AM EST up reply actions
against Cabron in ECF?
I was thinking that he was probably having flashbacks of that game last night. haha. GO MAGIC
by MasterofMagic on Mar 4, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
classic ED humor....
always a winner
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by Bonafidebrother on Mar 4, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
"but the Heat's offense died a grotesque death in the second half"
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Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega
by AB's triple double on Mar 4, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
A couple of great games and a couple of great wins.
Still SO confused as to why Dwight doesn’t get in there and attack more… he seemed weirdly muted tonight, and in general against the Heat. But when they shoot like that from the outside, who even cares?
Those Heat are a weird team… I do think you can give them a lot of trouble by taking the transition baskets away. I’ve seen that before, and it was definitely true tonight. Magic may need to get serious about that… I know they’ve been fishing for a bunch of offensive boards this season, and they may need to calm that down and get serious about transition D.
It’s crucial against these guys, and against Chicago too — they get a lot of their baskets on the transition, and guys like Rose and Deng can struggle in the half-court. Also true of the Knicks, if they do end up being contenders. Really, the only viable Eastern Conference opponent that DOESN’T do a fair amount of fast-breaking is Boston. (And Atlanta, if you count them.)
Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.
I prefer it this way then having Dwight do it all.
We tend to win more when we are able to get balance scoring from different players, (and of course it helps when others are knocking down shots). Dwight had 5 asists, that’s nice.
The Heat made a point to keep Dwight away from the rim
that’s a big part of the reason why he finished with 5 assists.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Mar 4, 2011 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
Well, they can make a point of it.
I’m just not sure why they’re able to do it SUCCESSFULLY.
Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.
They doubled Howard alot
I dont want him trying to take on double teams. He is more likely to turn it over or throw up a bad shot than score.
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by Souwantmyname on Mar 4, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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SIDE NOTE
You remember that game in ’98-99 or so where the Magic made the 20-point comeback in the last 5 minutes?
Nothing to do with this game. I just loved that game — that might have been my favorite basketball game to watch of all time.
Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.
What a comeback! I was keeping track of this online during my uni seminar, and I gladly preempted to record this game on my PlayTV
To answer 3.3seconds, Dwight was getting touches, it’s just he had to kick them out more often today due to the swarming heat defense. He had about 5 assists today. I suppose he would only get assists if the ball receive knocks down their shots, fortunately the team did that today
Our PGs did pretty well – Jameer was once again aggressive, and the team becomes so much more than a “Dwight and 3” team when he’s on ball. It also reduces our need for Turk who is clearly not 100%. Gilbert didn’t do too badly, 3-7, 11 points, 2 assists, he had 3 turnovers but I think one of them was an errant JJ pass that he happened to pick up on the backcourt. And he knocked down the threes in critical times. I’m still waiting for the drive game to return, but for 15 minutes work he acquitted himself well.
I know Dwight was getting touches.
It just seems to me that he gets the ball further out against the Heat than he does against any other team, and ends up taking more mid-range jumpers. Either Dampier/Anthony/Ilgauskas are deceptively gifted defenders with the ability to push Dwight around (no), or Dwight’s approach against the Heat has been fundamentally different/worse than his approach against other teams.
Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.
well apparently he still scores +20 ppg but compared to his stats with other NBA teams, the Heat defend him pretty well.
Which is some sort of rap on Dampier, Anthony and Haslem. Not so much Z, because he barely gets any minutes nowadays, but he’s still a formidable immobile roadblock so it’s not as if he’s useless against Dwight.
I think Miami also do a better job of providing help defense than other teams do. Lebron loves his weak-side blocks, and Wade is one of the best shot blocking guards in the league.
Arenas' turnovers were all on him
Three bad passes in a 2 1/2 minute span early in the fourth, but to his credit, he hit two big threes a little later.
It’s certainly very encouraging that Gil has been shooting much better on his threes his last couple of games; let’s hope it continues.
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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 4, 2011 4:59 AM EST up reply actions
i thought one of those passes was on Dwight though
Arenas needs to hurry up and shoot himself (out of this slump).
Dwight appeared to be expecting a shot.
He was already gearing up for a put-back when Gil tossed it at him. Dwight has had at least two put-back dunks off missed Gil lay-ups in the past week. They were just on the wrong page there.
That said, there were two other horrible passes from Arenas. J-Rich also had a couple absolutely inexcusably lazy passes that led to TO’s. Hedo had 4 TO’s in 31 minutes. They have to cut out those TO’s against Miami above all other opponents. That’s when the game seemed to turn in the first quarter after a good start, because Miami got it going on some easy transition buckets. This same problem of lazy TO’s threatened to kill our comeback early in the 4th quarter too.
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Listening at work.
I was listening at work on my phone(got ESPN Radio on android) and was irritated at the turnovers that led to Miami going off in the first half. Seemed like a complete 180 degree turnin the second half. Almost as if Miami didn’t know who to cover.
The game against Chicago will be interesting to say the least. Magic win this game Dwight’s gotta have MVP locked up.
by Sylvester Cox III on Mar 4, 2011 4:07 AM EST reply actions
Can Hedo guard Bosh?
I wonder if starting QRich at 3 guarding LeBron and sliding Hedo to 4 can help Orlando can help Orlando defensively at a possible playoff matchup. It seems like Magic should find ways to start better defensively so they won’t need miracle comebacks against Heat.
Fill in the blanks: Sacramento ⇒ Spurs ⇒ Orlando ⇒ …… ⇒ Suns ⇒ …… | Pistons ⇒ Jazz | Bucks ⇒ N/A ⇒ Bucks | …… | Celtics
Might be worth a try.
Bosh could be a little too quick against Hedo, but he certainly can’t overpower him like some other PFs can. I certainly think Hedo would be able to defend Bosh better than he could LeBron. Also, Bosh would have to respect Hedo’s 3-pt shot, so that would open the lane a bit for Howard inside or Nelson/Arenas to attack the rim.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Mar 4, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think it is a bad idea
But it takes Ryno and his rebounding out of the game.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Can Hedo guard ________ ?
the answer is always no. Luckily, Bosh doesn’t need much guarding these days. He just stands back and takes ridiculously long jumpers that don’t go in.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Mar 4, 2011 4:33 AM EST reply actions
What is a Large cheese pizza for 500, Alex.
by LastActionZero on Mar 4, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
haha
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Who else here loves aggro Dwight? He was pointing at someone in the stands at the end of the game.
And he was barely smiling even after the win. I love the intensity.
Do you have it!? DODODODO Do ya have it?! GUTS!
Sorry, I saw “Aggro Dwight” and immediately went in the wayback machine to image Dwight holding a piece of the AgroCrag from G.U.T.S. I miss my childhood.
by LastActionZero on Mar 4, 2011 7:57 AM EST up reply actions
OMGGG lolol I used to love that show
Excuse me while I whip this out.
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 4, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Haha Wah wah wahhhhh....
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If he's 40, we definitely shouldn't extend his contract.
Bass and sharks are BOTH fish.
Great comeback obviously
and the play of Q has been inspiring on defense in the past 2 games -hope he continues at this level. Good to see Nelson so aggressive also.
Since no one checks game threads at the end, here you go;
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People stop this dance, Say damn this persons fascinatin'
We blowin' dro up in the air, You smell it?
That's the fragrance, I got the focus, got the heart
And I got the patience
glad to know he's not "chill"
this is a professional basketball game, not some pickup at the community gym
Go Magic!
this game has really made my day great after a stressful day from work.
what we do in life echoes in eternity
Great win!
I think the most exciting aspect of this game for me was JRich’s defense on Wade in the second half. He was forcing him so far baseline he almost stepped out of bounds on every possession.
by Satch30 on Mar 4, 2011 8:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Knicks and Heat are bad matchups for him.
I know that bodes ill for us, since that is who we have to play in the playoffs, but he will be better in the playoffs
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I hear ya, but bad match ups aside
he just looks like hes over it. Wonder if hes having wifey problems at home… or he ran out of pizza?
If J Rich plays like this.......
This is the second option. Now I don’t mean he will go 5-5 in the second half on 3’s, but I loved his aggression. He went into super eff you mode, and said give me the ball IM HOT!! The team fed off that. Loved that Dwight specifically listened to me. Said in the thread that the shooters were going to have win this game. Dwight was not getting any position last night, but he made the right decision to wait for the “swarmers” hit the open man and get high percentage open shots. They also happened to be open 3’s. Dwight didn’t score last night, but the Justice League showed up last night and took over the game. Great win, great defense in the second half, great passion, great patience.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
This was the J Rich we traded for.
This was 2010 playoffs Jason Richardson. If he is here for the rest of the season AND IF Jameer Nelson 08-09 is back, then we are going to be a tough out with a good chance of going to the Finals. We really need a long winning streak because the Heat have a brutal schedule for the next 10 or so games. We could catch them for the division
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Everyone is talking about the 3's, but the defensive effort was even more impressive.
Look at the breakdown by quarter:
1st — ORL: 22, MIA: 30
2nd — ORL: 23, MIA: 33
3rd — ORL: 26, MIA: 17
4th — ORL: 28, MIA: 16
Their best was in the 4th, and while scoring 28 in quarter is solid, it’s certainly not unbelievable or anything. The fact that they came on 3’s is cool, but the Magic could post that sort of offensive quarter about half a dozen different ways.
But look at that defense. After LeBron and Wade outscored the entire Magic team in the first half by themselves, they were held to a combined 10 points in the second half and only two (2!) in the final frame. That’s two of the best offensive players in the league…completely stopped.
Lock. Down.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Mar 4, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The magic only shoot 3's
ESPN told me so
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Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega
by AB's triple double on Mar 4, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah, the defense was amazing. For a while during our slump we missed Dwight's blocks. I suppose the threes made the comeback a lot quicker.
Halfway through the third it looked like this was going to be like the first matchup the two teams had.
well
the defense improved dramatically, but their offense helped the defense as well. You can’t start transition baskets when you have to take the ball out each time. But that said, the refs let them play in the second half and that was Miami’s undoing. Dwight should have been more efficient offensively, but he ended up making up for it with his help defense. Really if not for the fact the Magic kept forgetting to rotate over and box out Dampier when Dwight was contesting, the final score would have never been in doubt.
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Making shots helps the defense, true. But it's just as true of 3-pt shots as it is with layups or FTs.
What’s crazy is that the Magic limited the Heat to just 5 fast break points. LeBron and Wade are the league’s #1 and #2 in fast break points…so to send them to the stable like that is pretty impressive.
Making shots helps a lot, but they also got back on defense very quickly a lot of the time when they missed. That’s effort that doesn’t currently show up in the stat sheets.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Mar 4, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yessir.
Stan had a great defensive gameplan, and the players executed it well. The only difference from the first and second halves was that LeBron and Wade had a statistical anomaly with their jump-shooting.
Dwight was a beast.
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I'm gonna be in a happy mood all weekend!!! Thanks to this great game.
I was ready to skip the second half. Then all of a sudden we’re only down by 13! I think Q-Rich did a tremendous job on defending in the 4th LBJ.
Yes. Q has earned his minutes back.
Now I am not saying he should start or something like that, but if like Dwight said if you are not gonna help defensively you gotta sit. It is not that Turk is not trying, he just does not have the speed or power to guard LeBron or a Melo. I can live with him on Deng or Pierce. Again the NBA is all about matchups. And we actually should have beaten the Heat 3 times this year.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I sacrificed two virgin Spaldings to the basketball gods today,
using the Polanski method, so that last night’s effort on all fronts will be sustained.
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by nowuseemenowudont on Mar 4, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
how can you drug and sodomize a basketball?
by Alan J Ganssle on Mar 4, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
takes talent
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Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega
by AB's triple double on Mar 4, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Ever since people here said we could never play defense
The Magic have played elite defense. Well they were doing that before, but you can not deny this team is capable of elite defense after this past month
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Went to the game last night
and enjoyed watching Heat fans suffer. I don’t know what it is about them, but their pain makes me smile.
Anyway, it was one of the best games I’ve ever seen live. At the start of the 3rd quarter I had already given up hope. I told myself I needed to just sit back and enjoy the greatness that is James and Wade. They could not miss in that first half. Of course, the comeback was something I had never seen before from this team…unreal.
Another note, the two greatest players in the league at slashing and getting to the basket refused to attack the rim when Dwight was in the game. Every time they penetrated they would pass it to the open wing as opposed to challenging Dwight. If that doesn’t garner serious MVP consideration than I don’t know what does.
One Freaken Second
Miami fans in all sports are jokes
My favorite part was when jameer stepped to the line to put them up by four in the waning seconds, the place was absolutely silent. Then when meer missed the first free throw, and gave the Heat a chance to shoot a three to tie, everyone was yelling at jameer during his second free throw….that right there epitomizes Miami fans….
Also, Cabron has ALWAYS been scared to drive to the rack when Dwight is in the game. Dwight is the only player in the game that Cabron can’t impose his will on. I LOVE IT!
by MasterofMagic on Mar 4, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yes no realizes that Dwight neutralizes LeBron
The only way LeBron beats Dwight is if his jump shot is falling.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I'm just thankful that I DVR'd this game.
I wanted to turn it off after halftime, but part of me still had some hope left or wanted to see how the rest of the carnage would unfold. That’s why I’ll always watch till the bitter end, hoping for a miracle.
Reading the game the game thread this morning was hilarious. From despair to jubilation.
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Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega
by AB's triple double on Mar 4, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions
well i loved and hated watching last night's game
it’s always nice to know we are never out of it. but that’s the point. why are we always playing catch up every game (big or small games). where is our energy gonna come from besides playing catch up. we can’t always do this. especially with teams that know how to close out games.(boston, lakers). anyway i loved that j-rich took command and arenas doing good. everybody playing good basketball (in the 2nd half). good win. on to the bulls.
best win EVER
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by nowuseemenowudont on Mar 4, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions
LeBron didn't take his talents to the 4th quarter
by Raptorel on Mar 4, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions 15 recs
ha!
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by nowuseemenowudont on Mar 4, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Evan gave you credit for it on twitter.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 4, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, that's a zing.
People stop this dance, Say damn this persons fascinatin'
We blowin' dro up in the air, You smell it?
That's the fragrance, I got the focus, got the heart
And I got the patience
by 4QB on Mar 4, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight didn't get his 20 & 10...
But his screens in the second half were what helped ignite the offense. Without his tremendous screens, the Magic don’t get a lot of those open looks off drive-and-kicks. There were times where his presence simply caused the Heat players to collapse on him before he even got the ball, opening up shooters from behind the line.
His defense was of course amazing, but Dwight is totally underrated when it comes to his presence on offense. Even when he’s not scoring, the offense begins and ends with him.
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I think one disturbing thing is that the Magic will live and die by their three point shot
If this was a series in the playoff, do you think the Magic would’ve won the series with this kind of a game?
At the same time, we should expect the Magic not to fall down by 24 points in the first place, so if they play the same type of defense that they did in the 2nd half, that’s another story.
I don't subscribe to the "live and die by the three" argument.
If you have an open 3 off ball movement with 35-40% shooters taking them… I’ll take it. Of course it was anomalous that we hit such a high percentage (and that Arenas hit multiple 3’s), but the first half was anomalous for Miami too.
The Magic won this game with a combo of the three ball, pick-and-roll with Dwight, and great defense. I’ll take that in any playoff series.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
I'd say holding Miami to 33 points in the second half is the reason we won, not because we shot so well on 3's.
by MagicMark on Mar 4, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This..
The defense won it for us…the 3’s just made the comeback happen more quickly
Every one of that three was needed
If that Magic would’ve won by 10+ then yeah, you’d be right, but they didn’t.
Every one of those LBJ and Wade long jumpers were needed...
For the Heat to be up by 20. But they stopped falling because the Magic kept with the same defensive plan and held the Heat to 33 second half points. Yeah.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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by slickw143 on Mar 5, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It all evens out in the end.
Wade and LeBron won’t both have their jumper going that well in every game either.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
Like the game in Orlando where Lebron had 51 and they were almost exclusively long 2s. The Magic made him shoot what they wanted but he knocked them down. According to the stats, he has a game like that almost exactly once a year. It looked at first that he was going to again, but didn’t.
So, I don’t think he can do that for a 7 game series, either.
The plural of "anecdote" isn't "data."
That was a win of magificent proportions last night:
it was so nice to see the ball move in the 4th quarter. Instead of Meer dumping the ball in to Dwight and 3 other players standing on the opposite side of the court, we saw the ball move in, then back out, then get another pass until we found the player with the open look.
For everyone who says the Magic just “jack up threes,” I would say: when the ball moves around the arc, nothin’ gets jacked. If the man with the open look takes a good shot, that ain’t jack. That’s Magic basketball.
And if you don’t know that, you don’t know jack.
I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.
by Redfield on Mar 4, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
We need to lock down from the jump..
we can’t afford to come back from games like this in the playoffs. The intensity will be heightened, so we gotta play defense from the beginning, not when were down by 18 at the half.
But dang, what a game! Arenas hitting a couple big ones?? Whaaaat??
They did play D in the first half.
But LeBron and Wade were hitting shots at a ridiculously high clip. The Magic didn’t do much differently, except for maybe fight over pick-and-rolls a bit better. If LeBron and Wade are going to take nothing but jumpers and make them, then well, it’s not your night.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Exactly
The only thing I would have liked were more hands in the face. But the Magic have shut LeBron out of the paint the last two games. Only a few people realize that Dwight does not allow anyone in the paint. What a performance by Dwight though. Realized that he was not gonna drop the big points last night, passed fantastic last night, shut the paint down, blocked, and grabbed 10 rebounds in the last quarter.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Yup.
Honestly, if it wasn’t for ridiculously abnormal jump-shooting performances the last two games, the Magic win both games comfortably. I will take my chances with Miami’s jump shots against our jump shots over the course of a seven game series.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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Exactly...
That’s what the Magic did to the 09 Cavs in the ECF (let LBJ shoot jumpers all game). The interesting thing is that he still hasn’t seemed to have figured out that that’s the Magic’s strategy for him. As a good a player as he is off the dribble, he really should be driving to the basket more, even against Dwight. With his talents (and deference from the refs), he’d probably get D12 in foul trouble early and that’d be it for the Magic. Let’s hope he doesn’t figure it out. I haven’t seen any NBA “analyst” point this out yet. But, it doesn’t matter anyway because Lebron doesn’t seem to pay attention or respond to anything that doesn’t have “king” in the subject. Maybe he has a google alert set up for “king.” I wonder if when Prince Charles becomes king of England, if they’ll have a twitt-off.
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by TheOtherWhiteMeat on Mar 4, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
John Schuman did an article last year about it.
No one at ESPN realizes this. They kept saying the Heat stopped attacking the rim, they never attacked the rim all night. ESPN TV Mainstream people will never give Dwight the credit he does for dominating LeBron. He owns him in head to head. I don’t know what it is off the top of my head but he owns him, and I think he owns a winning record over Wade as well.
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well if the media starts talking
about how dwight neutralizes lebron, then lebron might make it his business to prove them wrong. /do not want
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Im surprised you haven't talked about how we lost because of our threes... oh wait.
People stop this dance, Say damn this persons fascinatin'
We blowin' dro up in the air, You smell it?
That's the fragrance, I got the focus, got the heart
And I got the patience
by 4QB on Mar 4, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
we need to stop b@tchin' too
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by 44792212 on Mar 4, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
REC'D (and that's in caps, not Manny55 voice)
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Awesome
just a sick win. Couldn’t believe it. I thought we were doomed because James and Wade’s js were fallin.
Q, Hibachi, Anderson, Jameer and of course J Rich played really well. Just awesome, i still don’t know what to say.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
Hibachi played pretty decently last night.
On two of his misses he got fouled. I really want the refs to make the calls. He got some calls against Charlotte, but does not seem to be getting them in big games. I know he had two turnovers, but those three 3’s made up for it. You are just gonna have to live with Gil and his TO’s. Loved the game last night. Loved how everyone kept enocouraging each other
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Gil was absurdly awful in the 2nd quarter, and in the first ~2 minutes of the 4th.
by MagicMark on Mar 4, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He put the ball in the hoop.
Not sure how much more we can ask of him. Put the ball in the hoop and he did last night.
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I understand he played before.
But you gotta take the bad with the good. He knocked down big time 3’s
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He was atrocious.
And given his past results this year, he really had no business knocking down 3 of 5 threes. Don’t get me wrong – I’m glad he made them. But I hope this doesn’t make him think he’s suddenly good and should keep shooting even more than he already does. Because he’s not good.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get u guys
Gil plays bad, u bash him. Meer plays bad, it’s a off night. Gil has a decent or good game u still bash him. Gil may not be the same he used to be, but now he’s starting to come alive. and is hitting shots. but now u don’t want him to shoot even if he’s making them?
by Lil J on Mar 4, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Coming alive based on what, one game?
One. Game. One freaking game, and one where he played terribly for the better part of the night until he made a couple shots.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
i'm not talking about one game.
for the past couple of games he’s starting to actually make shots. and is getting some of his speed bursts back. but it’s still not enough for some of u. everybody else has been getting there props for having good games. but not Gil. all a ever hear about him is can he keep it up. oh it was a lucky game. so on and so on. yeah he does need to keep this up consistently every game. but we get what we can from him. yes a big part of it has been bad. but i think if he can keep this up we will be straight.
Yes, with his past two games,
he’s raised his TS% to a sizzling 43.6% and his offensive rating to 89! Come on, Duhon’s at 48.6% and 90. I’ll celebrate Arenas’s success when he starts having it.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"I’ll celebrate Arenas’s success when he starts having it."
Golden.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Gil can't fee his face!
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 7, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
If he doesn't make those 3's the team does not win.
Look I know he was bad with TO’s. But what would you rather have? Duhon?? Jameer for 48 minutes?? Look Gil hit big time shots. Plain and simple. Yes he had TO’s. But he made big shots that helped get the magic a huge win. I know everyone hates him, but he is at least trying. He is driving to the rim, the only consistent person who has been driving, he is usually getting a high assist total. Do I want him to cut his TO’s down? Yes. Absolutely. But not every player is gonna be the perfect, efficient, no turnover player. Gil is what he is. And in the last two games he has played, he has dropped 16 pts and 11 pts. That is our backup PG. Our backup. Not many other teams have a backup PG who can go off.
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OK, I really can't listen any more of this.
We won the game. He got his shots. What else do you want, man? Can you just be happy with the win? And saying that Arenas could have “cost us the game” I mean, seriously, man. You’re really being unfair now.
I don't think we hate Gil as much as we fear him.
If he continues to play decent everyone will be happy, but two good games out of 34 are not enough to instill confidence. That said, better Gil than he-whose-number-should-not-be-called.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 4, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
He made three shots that I was screaming NOOOOOOO until they went in.
Well done, Gil. He also played pretty terribly otherwise. And that is all the credit he earned.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
i got a question for MoveThoseChains
do u just don’t like Gil? everything u said about him has been negative. even if he played decent.
He didn't play decent. He made poor decisions that still worked out sometimes. Those shots weren't good shots.
I'm no Arenas fan, actually I think he's been awful, but to say his shot selection was poor
is a bit unfair. Two of the three he made were wide open. If Stan’s system gives him the green light, well, it’s OK.
However, to me, the bigger picture is he’s just not healthy. He’s incredibly limited in what he can do on the court and whenever a national TV game is on, the announcers never fail to mention this. I think come playoff time it will be even worse as teams pick up the intensity.
I still wish the Magic would get Duhon some playing time in case he’s needed. I know people have said he’s played poorly this year but he was the starting guard in a high paced offense last year and performed reasonably. He should be able to handle brief periods as a backup. Not only do I believe Arenas is borderline but it appears that his injury may be getting worse.
You are not always gonna get easy shots in the playoffs.
Whether or not they are good shots is irrelevent today. They went in. He made big time shots in a big time moment. Was not afraid of the moment. Was not thinking what I can do or can’t do. When he plays bad he is thinking too much. Yes he had turnovers, but he was a contributor to the win last night. He shot 50%+ from 3’s for the second night in a row. LeBron makes bad decisions. Wade makes bad decisions. Kobe makes bad decisions. Hell everyone’s MVP, Derrick Rose, makes worst decisions than those three. I get it, we like stats, we don’t like turnovers, high percentage shots, etc. But Gil is not that. Never has been. But if you watch him he is trying. He is trying to get to the rim. I know he has no lift, I can see it, but he is trying to draw FT’s. He is getting hacked and the refs are not calling it. He is a volume shooter. But the last two games he has shot the ball well. I am not saying he is the savior or anything, but you watch him and at least he gives a damn. If he goes down, he goes down shooting. And don’t read into that I didn’t think Rashard cared. I know Lewis cared and to me he never got the fair shake for the HUGE sacrifice he made to this team. But someone else we traded didn’t care.
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It wasn't that Pietrus didn't care, it was just that he was French!
(I’m kidding.)
I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.
I'm glad he cares.
Seriously, the more he can do to make me forget how [stupidly] angry he is about not playing 40 minutes a night he is, the better.
Still, caring and playing well aren’t the same thing. I care, too, but I’m still terrible at basketball. I’m glad Arenas made those shots, but it doesn’t erase that he was largely ineffective. And it doesn’t erase that he is, has been, and always will be a poor shooter, even before his injuries. And the fact that he doesn’t seem to realize that will always terrify me.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 4, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you that Gil is a rollar coaster.
And I curse him a lot as well, but you can’t he made some big buckets last night. And in the Bobcats game he was good as well. If the refs would call the fouls when he gets hacked that would help as well.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Right.
Of course I’m glad he made those two three’s… but I also said “OH, NO!” when he MISSED the next TWO tries, and threw away the ball… even Stan saw the Grimm Reapper coming and put Jammer in charge.
No, Gil is more a liability than an asset right now… barring an unexpected change in his game approach/physical abilities. We play him (no choice), but it’s a calculated risk!
I don't care if you criticize him after a poor performance...
… but this was not the game to badmouth him. Or anyone else on the team, for that matter. We won, alright? And he did hit those threes. You’ll have plenty opportunity to badmouth him in weeks to come, I’m sure, so why don’t give him a break when he actually does something good for the team? I just don’t get you, guys. And it is just a shame that no one gets the point. Apparently, Evan, too, thinks that it is OK to talk badly about someone regardless of his contribution as long as that someone is called Arenas.
It's possible to play poorly and get good results, just as it's possible to play a fantastic game and go 1-of-9.
It’s not as simple as “Arenas made shots, so he had a good game.” He took bad shots and made poor decisions with the ball. He didn’t play well.
Against the Bobcats? Great game. The Cavs game shortly after the trade? Superb. But the Heat game wasn’t too good.
The means are at least as important as the end.
Evan calls it as he sees it, which is what makes this site so great.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 5, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Same people wanting to talk about how well Gil played
are the same people who like Turk, I am sure. He does the exact same things as Gil, just at a little better efficiency and accuracy, but not by much.
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Speaking of which
Gil attempting to drive to the basket is really depressing to watch. Sigh. But… credit when it’s due. Those two 3s he made in the 4th quarter were key
He is getting fouled. But not getting any calls
If his knee ever gives him anything, he will be able to get into his defender and draw some fouls.
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If you ever want a good laugh
go to the Miami thread for the game last night. You can envision what was happening throughout the game and when the comback began. It gives great insight into what those fans were thinking when the walls began tumbling down.
that they would go find a new bandwagon to jump on?
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Not gonna trawl through all the comments yet but a few observations
Also, I don’t want to over-analyse this game because it should really be enjoyed for what it is- an exciting comeback win over ORL’s hated division rival and potential playoff opponent.
Some things do stick out to me that warrant mention though:
(i) Lebron and D-Wade getting hot from the outside. This was basically what killed us in the first half and even then I knew it was not sustainable. Some of the shots they were hitting last night… you just have to live with it. That being said, the defense in the 2nd half was a lot better. Whether Lebron and D-Wade’s drop off in production was due to them sleepwalking out of complacency or increased intensity from ORL is debatable… However, I do think forcing Miami’s stars to win games with their outside shooting is THE game plan, and is definitely correct.
(ii) ORL’s offensive execution is still wildly inconsistent, but (this might be stating the obvious) the team has so many potential modes of attack that need to click for the team to be effective. “Feed Dwight” has been gaining popularity amongst fans, but it is equally important for our perimeter players to contribute. ORL can’t settle into a predictable offensive flow of dumping it to Dwight and letting him post up for 10 seconds, or passing around the perimeter then jacking up a 3. The team needs to constantly adapt their offensive approach, be it Jameer’s penetration (which is truly fun to watch when he’s aggressive), getting out in transition, or whatever.
(iii) Q has found his role on this team as a situational defender. Loved his intensity. I hope he can keep up his good play of late.
I love when Jameer penetrates.
I don’t think he has been doing it for fear of injury. I really do. But his confidence from the last week or so reminds me of 08-09
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MOST AMAZING GAME EVARRRRRRRRRRRR
Excuse me while I whip this out.
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 4, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
what is your opinion of JJ though
remember April 3rd…..lol
I was hoping you all had forgotten about that...
Excuse me while I whip this out.
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 4, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
nooo I said I wouldn't say anything bad about him for a month
slight difference.
JJ, you didn’t suck last night. Congratulations on your mediocrity.
Excuse me while I whip this out.
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 4, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Actuallt JJ was not effective last night. He was over matched by Wade on defense.
JJ’s minutes were shorted because of his defensive struggles and the Rich’s got the assignment. There are teams where JJ is a defensive positive (Boston anyone), but he is over matched in Miami.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 4, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
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This game is an Instant Classic!!! 2nd half DEFENSE was off da charts!!! GO MAGIC!!!!!…DWIGHTHOWARD4MVP.COM
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I know it’s not cool to make fun of enemies but man, this video was so funny!
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yes....yes it was!
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by Bonafidebrother on Mar 4, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's the J-Rich I was hoping for!
Granted, I don’t expect him to shoot like that all the time. But that’s the reason I was so excited to get him.
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