Rose v. Howard: Why Do Chicago and Orlando Win?
M. Haubs of The Painted Area with a thoughtful, nuanced take on the MVP debate.
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I like that he found yet another way to compare them,
and I like even more that once again, Dwight comes out on top.
"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore
Good analysis. However, relevant team standing has always had some mythical bearing on MVP voting.
If Orlando was in the top two of Eastern conference, I seriously doubt that we would have had this conversation.
I agree But the Magic were second in the East last year and Dwight finished 4th or something.
I agree with you about the record, but the voters always seem to love the “new” face as well.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Great, great article.
That should be plastered all over ESPN.com. I’ve been saying all year that, even though Rose should be in the top candidates for MVP, the bigger reasons for Chicago’s success has been the defense and the coaching of Thibodeau. Those two factors are directly tied to each other, of course.
It was brought up on PTI the other day that Stan said that Dwight affects more possessions than anyone in the league, and Wilbon was so quick to say that he doesn’t believe that for a second. Really, Mike? I’d like to have literally 30 seconds to make this statement to him: “Derrick Rose is the most important player to the Bulls on offense, correct? Derrick Rose is nowhere near the most important player to the Bulls on defense, correct? Dwight Howard is the most important player to the Magic on offense, yes? Dwight Howard is by far and away the most important player to the Magic on defense, yes? Case closed.”
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It would probably really unusual, but not unprecedented unless we're only talking recent history:
The two lowest ranked teams with MVPs that I found were:
Chicago Bulls, 87-88, ranked 3rd in conference, 7th overall: Michael Jordan.
Houston Rockets, 81-82, ranked 6th in conference, 8th overall: Moses Malone.
That’s as far back as I was willing to look during my lunch. Someone else can go further, or double-check my data. I used basketballreference.com.
Oh, and this is a response to Juiceboxberry. Sorry I hit the wrong tab.
I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.
I think Mike Prada says it bets!
Mike Prada: To be clear, I think there is an argument for Rose as MVP, but nobody has been able to make it yet.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Quote of the Week: "One day I am going to be the guy standing at the pearly gates explaining that I was just in there, but they forgot to stamp my hand."
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Mar 28, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with the basic premise of the article
While Derrick Rose is a great player who is having a great season and is a deserving MVP candidate who has done so much for the team, he certainly isn’t the only reason the Bulls are where they’re at, as their terrific coaching, defense, and bench have played a big part in their record.
With the Magic, they can attribute a big part of their record solely to the dominance of Dwight Howard on both ends of the court. Yes, the Magic have a good coach and other players who contribute, but not to the extent as the Bulls have.
Chicago Bears... 2010 NFC Conference runners-up
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Champions
Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions
by Mike from Illinois on Mar 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
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