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Turnovers Stymie Orlando Magic's Offense

Of all the problems the Orlando Magic must try to correct before the playoffs begin next month, turnovers might be the most prominent. The Magic needed overtime to dispatch a pesky Milwaukee Bucks team missing Andrew Bogut, its best player, last night due in part to Orlando's butterfingers, as it coughed the ball up 19 times in 92 trips down the floor. It was the Magic's second straight game with a turnover rate over 20, as they committed 18 miscues in just 85 possessions Monday night against the L.A. Lakers.

"If that [turnover] number’s going to be 17, 18, 19 every night, then we’re not going anywhere at playoff time. We’re just not," coach Stan Van Gundy told the media following the victory last night, and he's right.

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Turnovers, and the fluidity of his team's offense in general, have worried Van Gundy since training camp. The midseason acquisitions of Hedo Turkoglu and Gilbert Arenas were meant in part to boost the Magic's passing and playmaking, which in theory would mean reduced turnovers. On a season-long level, it's worked, as the Magic have trimmed their turnover rate by one percentage point since the deals. But in their last nine games, in which they own a 5-4 record, the Magic have committed 150 turnovers in just 824 possessions, which equals a turnover rate of 18.2, astronomical by NBA standards. For perspective, consider they could have two full games' worth of possessions, commit no turnovers, and still be in rough shape as far as turnover rate is concerned.

There are a few ways we can explain the turnover woes of late. Who's playing might seem obvious, but it's one place to start. A strained abdomen held J.J. Redick out of action in the final four games of the Magic's road trip; in the last three of those games, third-string point guard Chris Duhon logged an average of 19.3 minutes, helping Arenas soak some of Redick's minutes at off guard. Duhon, who hardly ever shoots, managed 7 turnovers in that stretch, or one every 8.3 minutes. His high-turnover approach contrasts sharply with Redick, whose month-long numbers suggest he'd have committed only one turnover in the same span.

There's more at work here than Duhon, clearly. Dwight Howard (40 turnovers) and Jameer Nelson (29) have had particularly bad turnover issues this month. Some of Howard's simply come with being a dominant, back-to-basket big in this league. Help defenders will slide in to take charges. Some folks will try, successfully, to flop. The issue for Howard is maintaining control of the ball when double-teams come from the top once he puts it on the floor; he's simply too big to win any scrums for the ball once he loses control of it. He also has to curb his tendency to shove otherwise helpless defenders once he's backed them well out of the play.

Nelson's case is a bit more puzzling. Usually a pretty surehanded facilitator, Nelson has instead averaged 3 turnover per game in March. Because his backups have always struggled with ball control, it's incumbent on Nelson to keep the Magic afloat from a passing standpoint; Orlando just doesn't have a low-mistake backup point guard on its roster.

I can't help but wonder if the magnified turnover issue is related to the team's attitude and approach of late, which has been one of nonchalance, indifference, or even arrogance, depending on your reading of Brian Schmitz's edditorial in yesterday's Orlando Sentinel. The team is more talented than it's shown, particularly on offense.

That's another point I'd like to address here: for all the hand-wringing about the Magic's lack of plus defenders apart from Howard, Orlando remains among the league's best teams on that end, thanks to Howard's all-around impact and Van Gundy's sharp scheming. Offense is a far greater concern for this team, for all its talent.

Let's consider the Four Factors for a moment. Because of the frequency and accuracy with which they shoot the three, Orlando will remain among the league's most potent teams in terms of effective field-goal shooting. But Van Gundy encourages his teams to forgo offensive rebounding in order to get back on defense, so they'll never rank highly there. For Orlando, turnovers and foul-drawing are the wildcards. How does it score if its shots aren't falling, as they might not do against elite defensive teams in the postseason? By keeping control of the ball--and thus maximizing scoring chances--and getting to the foul line for cheap, efficient points with the clock stopped.

The Magic's margin for error at the offensive end is slim. They can ratchet up that margin by simply not kicking the ball all over the gym.

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Hollinger says 25% of our possessions end in turnovers.

That number is good for 24th in the league.

The only other title contenders dwelling down in the bottom 10 are the Boston Celtics.

by Hoop Dreams 2 on Mar 17, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I whole-heartedly agree with this statement:

“For Orlando, turnovers and foul-drawing are the wildcards.”

I can’t for the life of me figure out why the ORL gaurds are having such a tough time taking care of the ball. It seems like all of them are overly bothered by any sort of coverage out beyond the 3-pt line. I don’t think I see any other team in the league have that much trouble with basic ball pressure.

I think Howard can tighten up some, but the way he plays, his “floor” is always going to be higher than others on the team.

Turnovers are a huge problem, but I think FTAs are a close 2nd. It seems like no one on the team not named Dwight Howard can get to the line. It’s frustrating to watch players, like Hedo, shy away from contact and force themselves into a tougher shot. J-Rich is still a heck of an athlete, Nelson can get into the paint, JJ can pump-fake like a champ, Bass has powerful moves to the basket. They should all be getting at least a handful of FTAs a game. If anything, the balanced offensive talent we can see with the Magic should translate to a more balanced distribution at the FT line too. But, no. Not even close.

The only thing more frustrating than this group of guys seemingly refusing to use their talents to force fouls…is on the rare occasions when they do utilize those skills but don’t get the calls. I’m torn to flat out accuse the refs of making an effort not to call fouls in favor of the Magic. Instead, I’m starting to think that because the Magic normally don’t draw fouls due to their style of play, the “normal” no-calls (that every team deals with) are simply more noticable.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Mar 17, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Kinda makes me miss J-Will...

"I got WAY too many cars in my driveway.."
Orlando Native(By way of Parramore)

by Mr_Major on Mar 17, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I concur with the statement that "I can't help but wonder if the magnified turnover issue is related to the team's attitude and approach of late, which has been one of nonchalance, indifference, or even arrogance".

That statement is the back drop for careless play originated from the thought that we are almost settled at the 4th seed. It could get magnified at times with lack of efforts especially at defensive end … we don’t play defense except when we want to!

Coach Van Gundy is too smart not to extract that kind of attitude out of the team’s mind. The team needs badly to clean up its acts before the play-offs arrive since there is no time then to correct while in the hype and motion typical to play-offs.

by Matt1325 on Mar 17, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with Matt. I think they're coasting right now and intend to pick it up in April.

We won’t know if this works until June (or earlier). Knowing what this team is capable of, I’m betting these issues are 99% attitude.

by MagicPhan on Mar 17, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"(Dwight) Howard averages 23 points and 14 rebounds per game and is the defensive basketball equivalent of a guy carrying a bazooka during laser tag. No one wants to play with that kid."-Matt Moore

by fwedo on Mar 17, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

But in part, Van Gundy has played a part. He’s a great coach and communicator; BUT he’s NOT a good motivator. In fact, he downplays some of the motivational methods and strategies of one of the best motivators in the League, Jackson in L.A. Stan does not believe in the psycology of sports… He’s wrong on that end; ask Martina Navratilova abou it!

by manny55 on Mar 17, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phil Jackson's a bit special

You can’t expect anyone else to be him.

by eltharion_doa on Mar 18, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not be like him

But at LEAST recognize the value, yes even the NEED for sports psychology in baskeball, when the need is there… Use ALL the resources available to you, as a Coach. Its clear that Stan is very rigid in many areas; will NOT deviate from his own vision… even when it’s proven wrong! It is THEN, that he admits he made a mistake.

Look… all I am saying is: If you can’t deal with certain aspects of a players’ mind and that is impacting the team: GET SOMEONE WHO CAN!

by manny55 on Mar 19, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats not all they need to fix...

this team is not good enough,i think they’ve had their time,of course they still have a chance because of d12,but they turn the ball way too much and they shoot too many unnecessary 3’s and suck at the free throw line,howard/anderson goes 1 for 4 down the stretch,if they make 2,game over, I’m sorry to say but we aren’t good enough,we need new players around dwight,get rid of turk,arenas and get bigger or we stand no chance,the other night vs LA showed we are too small..bynum had 10 rebounds in the 1st qtr,we suck

by arsgunner on Mar 17, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Sighs...

You could have just said the last two words or your post and been done. Move along.

by HustlerInc on Mar 17, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ball/Player Movement

It’s the lack of movement in the offense that’s causing it. My friend and I make it a ritual to count how many times they do the same play over and over. Sometimes it feels like the Magic only have 2 plays, and one of them requires little-to-no player movement, just get the ball to the 2, who gives it to Howard. The other is the pick and roll at the top of the key.

It makes no sense why they have such a stagnant offense. Coaches will decimate it in the playoffs. If there’s no player or ball movement, defenses will know how to trap guards and pick passes. It’s that simple.

Once player and ball movement pick up, the team will be better. But at this point in the season, I don’t think a significant change will be easy to work in.

by TheZen on Mar 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, if the ball gets near Bass

then it’s all over for movement.

The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy

by cgsimone on Mar 17, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Side Note:

Look at all the fans in the upper deck in that picture of Dwight. MAN! That is one hot ticket up there in Milwaukee, isn’t it?!

"I never look at the points," Howard said. "Rebounds and blocks are what win games for me."
http://www.twitter.com/JShannonhouse3
http://www.twitter.com/Amway_Get_Loud

by JeffShann3 on Mar 17, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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