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Sacramento Kings 111, Orlando Magic 105

The Orlando Magic suffered an embarrassing letdown in their first game after the All-Star Break, as the lowly Sacramento Kings, playing without franchise combo guard Tyreke Evans, soundly outplayed them on their way to earning a 111-105 victory. Dwight Howard (31 points, 17 rebounds) and Hedo Turkoglu (19 points, 8 assists) played magnificently for Orlando, but didn't have enough to overcome iffy performances from most of their teammates. Also worrisome for Orlando? The Kings won the game with a near-flawless fourth quarter, outscoring the Magic by a 32-21 margin in stunning fashion.

Jermaine Taylor, who hails from nearby Tavares and starred at UCF prior to going pro, led Sacrameto with a career-best 21 points on 9-of-12 shooting. Backcourt-mate Beno Udrih had 18 points and 10 assists, while role-playing bigs Jason Thompson and Samuel Dalembert combined for 34 points, 13 rebounds, and 4 blocked shots. Each King who logged more than 8 minutes played exceptionally well.

The Magic? Not so much. Not at all, even. Besides Howard and Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson had 15 points (but 5 turnovers) and J.J. Redick rifled in 12 on 5-of-10 shooting. The other players didn't contribute, with Brandon Bass going 2-of-6 and Jason Richardson continuing to slump his way to an 8-point outing on 4-of-12 shooting.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Kings97114.656.3%26.328.619.6
Magic100105.449.4%19.125.617.1
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

After the loss, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said, "I don't know how much more complete you can be in playing poorly." As the table above shows, he's on the money. The Kings, a below-average defensive team, made the Magic worse than their season averages in each of the four factors. Orlando had its moments--a 20-4 run to erase a Kings lead which had grown to 11 in the first half is its highlight--but overall played worse than one of the league's doormats.

A Nelson-to-Richardson alley-oop dunk in transition gave the Magic a 12-point lead, their largest of the night, with 4:26 remaining in the third quarter; they appeared to be on a roll. But as television color commentator Matt Guokas points out, the Magic let up after that, perhaps hoping the Kings would simply fold. If that's the case, Orlando badly underestimated Paul Westphal's squad, which closed on a 13-6 run, building momentum toward a fourth quarter in which it took control.

To be fair to Orlando, Sacramento scored on some broken plays late in the game... but it still scored. Dalembert got back-to-back buckets off off-target passes from Udrih, including a long, contested hook shot just before the shot-clock expired. Udrih followed those baskets with a layup to give the Kings a 104-100 lead with 1:52 remaining. The rest of the game, the Magic managed only a long Nelson two-pointer and a too-little, too-late Turkoglu three.

Perhaps one could argue this game was simply a result of Orlando being sluggish after the All-Star Break. We won't know how true that is until Friday, when it hosts the Oklahoma City Thunder. But to get beat in this way, by a team this bad, is hardly an encouraging sign. On the other hand, the Magic won four of their five games heading into the Break. We'll see which team shows up Friday.

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by JeffShann3 on Feb 23, 2011 10:20 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Sigh is Right

Another lack luster game against a team that has won less than 15 games. Reality is JRich looks to be slumping at a terrible time, Gortat is killing it in Phoenix and right now we don’t have a clue for a back up for Dwight.

Play Earl Clark more, at least he is playing with energy. Bass has been ice cold since his ankle injury.

by OrlandoTragic11 on Feb 23, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

At some point in time it is no longer a slump

Just trade for Z-Bo and Mayo. Start JJ and let Ryan take over next year.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

J-Rich

I just don’t get this guy. I thought he would be unstoppable in Orlando, since he was basically unstoppable in Phoenix. I think his problem is that he has changed his game. In Orlando he has basically become a spot up shooter, when his game is much more diverse.

If I was a Magic fan, I wouldn’t give up on the guy yet. He has all the tools, it may just be taking him time to settle in. Basketball is a TEAM game. Chemistry is built over time. JRich has all the talent in the world, and so I think the wagering man would be betting on him rather than against him.

by plyka on Feb 23, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

He also had Steve Nash for him in Phoenix.

Nash makes everyone better.

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by North of the South on Feb 23, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

that's too easy for me

Amare is actually playing BETTER without Nash.

by plyka on Feb 23, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He is also playing for D'Antoni, which basically is the same system.

Amare is playing better cause he keeps improving his game.

It’s also true that Nash didn’t make Shaq better :P

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by North of the South on Feb 23, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Please check his stats. Before Nash and after Nash.

You’ll see you’re wrong. He scores more because he shoots more. Nash made him great. Now, he’s just good. Steve Nash is the best offensive player to ever play the game.

by Sci Fi on Feb 23, 2011 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

that's beyond ridiculous

“Nash is the best offensive player to ever play the game.”

This is even a bigger joke than giving Nash two MVPs over more deserving players like Kobe or Shaq. I would hope that the BEST offensive player to EVER play the game, surrounded by excellent talent like Amare, Jrich, Shaq (older shaq), Grant Hill, et al, would at least make an NBA finals trip? Just one? Not even a victory, just a TRIP to the finals, and he hasn’t even done that.

The only thing Nash is good at is winning popularity contests put on by media personel or fans. Nash could be the last great white hope.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Your dislike of Nash

Leads you to underrate him as much as others overrated him.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

tell me where

Have I underrated him? The debate here is whether nash is the greatest offensive player in the history of basketball or not. I say no he says yes.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 1:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I know

I don’t really agree with that either. But whenever someone praises Nash, you seem to be the guy who has to dive in to rubbish Nash.

And there’s no doubt he makes the players around him offensively better.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

There is now ay Nash is the greatest offensive player ever.

That would be Wilt or MJ.

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If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Go back and look at which team was the most efficient during the past decade.

I’ll give you a little hint. It wasn’t the same team but the leading team was lead by the same point guard.

Oh, and while you’re at it, look at how Phoenix went from 17th in offensive efficiency in 2003-2004 prior to Nash and then in 2004-2005 they were number one by one of the largest margins ever after he arrived. Coincidence? I think not.

by Sci Fi on Feb 24, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus

Inefficient guys like Jason Richardson get into that offense with Nash and get easier/better shots than they ever did before. The guy makes your offense better because of the quality of shots and makes your defense less strained because they constantly aren’t having to get back in transition because of how efficient they are at scoring.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

and still

They can’t actually win anything. If some guy is going to be called the best ever over guys like Jordan or kareem, you know guys who actually won a handful of championships, then you’re going to need more than offensive efficiency increased on a team,lol. That’s such a joke.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 1:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

amen...

you can may be say nash is the smartest (i dont agree with that) offensive player but that’s it.. probably, sci fi only saw nash’s highlights, he doesn’t make every player better, he only makes athletic finishers better, look what he’s done with hedo… that’s because nash holds the ball constantly, all the time dude, he dribbles the friggin clock every single time, than either shoots or makes a pass..he’s the reason why j-rich could only become a spot up shooter. he’s great at making decisions, but he’s not MJ and after a while, it’s boring believe me… if not, check phoenix blogs…

by Alpere on Feb 24, 2011 4:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Nash did make Hedo better

TS% with Phoenix – 56.7%
TS% with Orlando – 54.2%

Points/36min? 13.5 with the Suns, 11.7 with Orlando.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 6:40 AM EST up reply actions  

what about

rebs, assists,steals and every other category?? watching idly nash dribbling the ball all the time generally makes the wing players more passive, they seem to forget what to do when they have the ball…

by Alpere on Feb 24, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

How could Nash change steals or rebounds?

Turk had a lot less assists with the Suns because he wasn’t playing with the ball, that’s no surprise.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

no not really...

he’s just as effective cutting to the basket b/c of the explosiveness..

by Alpere on Feb 24, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Johnson becamse an All-Star

When he got to Atlanta.

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by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Evan, I can't front, You're definitely hanging in there...

“Perhaps one could argue this game was simply a result of Orlando being sluggish after the All-Star Break.”

Sorry, but I’m at “code RED”..

Al Trautwig on MSG just said “the Magic lost to the Kings at home…. Really..? Really???”

by REP96st on Feb 23, 2011 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Bulls lost to the Raptors.

It happens. Get over it.

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by slickw143 on Feb 23, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

Ok I am over it. I really hate long breaks for our team. We have to be at least 0-1000 lately for games with 3 days of rest

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, I can't.. I'm not a Bulls fan

I’m a Magic fan, no matter WHAT you think.

YOU get over it. And I mean that with my face in YOUR face, if you understand the visual.

by REP96st on Feb 23, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

you’re mad on a blog. and if this is how you are going to react, then I expect you to react in opposite fashion when we win and be excited, rather than complacent.

"In Otis We Trust"

by SpencerStorch on Feb 23, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You say a lot of things

People stop this dance, Say damn this persons fascinatin'
We blowin' dro up in the air, You smell it?
That's the fragrance, I got the focus, got the heart
And I got the patience

by 4QB on Feb 24, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Certainly does.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

SVG and Dwight only ones who cared tonight.

What if Dwight takes SVG with him if he leaves???

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure what is harder to replace

Franchise player or Top 3 coach?

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by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

R U serious?

Dwight = 5 trillion SVGs+a bag of chips

by plyka on Feb 23, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You suck for a year

And get the number 1 pick and all of the sudden you have a franchise player. There has been 4-5 elite coaches in the last decade. That is it.

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by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

4-5 elite coaches?

and i’ll tell you who isn’t one, SVG.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not

But he’s better than most of the alternatives.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

how about guys

Who have actually won something first? Phil, POP, doc, pat and brown easy and that’s off the top of my head. Ask Phil Jackson who he would build a franchise around, he already stated dwight. Svg has had that for how many years? He has had ownership spend crazy amounts of money, gms make crazy trades, and still he has nothing to show for it. In fact, since 09 the team has regressed yearly.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 1:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Even the best coach in the league

Can’t make a silk purse out of a pig’s ear.

Ownership may be willing to spend crazy amounts of money, but unless that spend is on players which complement Howard, there’s not a lot van Gundy can do. Jackson couldn’t make Kobe Bryant and crap be champions, and he’s the best coach in recent history. Pierce and garbage? Went nowhere. Garnett and mediocrity? Nada. Wade and spare parts? Dumping for cap space.

Otis Smith has tried to find the second guy to put Orlando over the top, you have to give him that. But when the pieces just aren’t good enough, what is van Gundy supposed to do?

Do you think Phil Jackson, Doc Rivers, or Pat Riley would have won titles with the teams van Gundy has had?

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i think

A lot of what you say is correct. But the problem is how do you decipher between having quality players along with dwight or not? It seems your metric is Success which results in an invalid argument. For instance, dwight has had crap players around him and has never had the players to win. Where does this assumption come from? Maybe he has had the players but bad coaching or not great coaching cost them the championship? Your assuming he has had crap players around dwight because they didn’t win, and if they win then dwight will have good players around him. Either Svg has an excuse or he is great, there is no opportunity for him being bad.

I think it really comes down to great vs not great. I never said Svg is a bad coach. I just said that he wasn’t one of the best over the last decade. And I don’t see how there is the evidence to say that he is.

by plyka on Feb 24, 2011 1:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The "assumption"

Comes from watching them play. Orlando has never put an elite player with Howard; that’s not even close to being disputable. The only guy close was Lewis.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you a Magic hater? Sounds like it.

By the way, to everyone else, you know who this Plyka guy is right? I think it’s former commenter, currently banned David Polaka or what ever his name was :)

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by Matty B on Feb 24, 2011 2:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Larry Brown? Really?

I’m sure you’re trolling has run its course.

Pat Riley? Good thing he didn’t sweep an elite team from SVG just as they were about to hit their stride.

Doc Rivers is debatable. We all know he doesn’t even elevate teams with little talent, it’s something we saw in ORL for a few years. He inhereted ‘the big 3’ and suddenly he’s this amazing coach? Please. GTFO.

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by fwedo on Feb 24, 2011 4:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Enough to put him over SVG?

He only did that in one season and SVG built a system unlike any other in the NBA.

http://borntohustleroses.blogspot.com/

by fwedo on Feb 24, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't care either way

I think it’s a stupid debate. But there’s no doubt whatsoever that he elevated that crappy Magic team with very little talent.

Plus, coaches, like any person in any job, learn as they go along. Doc Rivers isn’t the same coach now that he was a decade ago.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

One team. One year.

http://borntohustleroses.blogspot.com/

by fwedo on Feb 24, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So wait

A guy with 5 straight Division titles, three Conference Finals appearance, one Finals appearance is not elite? When did I miss something?

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 24, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if Stan will survive the end of the season.

Some heads will have to roll if the Magic crash and burn in the playoffs, and coaches are always the first to get the blame.

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by North of the South on Feb 23, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Stan is not the problem.

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by North of the South on Feb 23, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

No he is not.

Dwight would actually tell ownership not to fire him.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He should not be fired

Not his fault the players do not give the ball to Dwight. HE can not control stupid mistakes for his team. After Dwight he is our MVPerson and should be as untouchable as Dwight.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, another angle. Would the Magic be better off if

the Washington trade had not occurred? I realize you don’t live life in reverse but many people questioned this trade from the get go. It seems to be at least the Magic would have had more flexibility to trade, if not been outright better.

by Sci Fi on Feb 23, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so

I also think we’d probably have pulled out of the post stomach bug slump if we’d not traded anyone, though.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 23, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree..

That was a panic move… We busted up the team a week after a team-wide stomach flu slump. Basically, I think Otis was a fool for breaking up the finals team. He has proved himself to be all-around foolish with these trades. Lewis>Arenas. We have 4 point guards. wtf.

by i2ambler on Feb 24, 2011 8:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Otis should go.

Not sure who would take his place but I think we’ve gotten whatever good we can get out of Otis and he’s now on a downward slide.

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by Matty B on Feb 24, 2011 2:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

if Dwight wanted him gone or if he thought he was the problem…SVG would be gone…not the case…those guys are two peas in a pod

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by KingJafi on Feb 23, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll never understood why they took on Arenas.

Never ever. I think they would have been better off with Lewis.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Most people don't

The NBA needs a trade mulligan rule. Once per CBA you get to reverse a trade within six months of doing it as long as both players have more than one year left on their contract.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

To be honest...

…I don’t really trust Otis Smith a great deal. Never really thought much of him before or now. But, I guess not being a full-time Magic fan my opinion of him doesn’t matter. Quite honestly, in most other ownership groups his actions would have gotten him in big time trouble.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha

You missed my string of “Fire Otis Smith” gags when the Arenas/Richoglu trades went down.

I don’t think a lot of Magic fans have much confidence in him these days.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that's cuz of the losing.

But how many super positive things has Otis really done for the team that didn’t requite spending a ton of money and having Dwight around?

Oh well. Such is life.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Mmmm

I have a fanpost brewing on Otis’ decisions. Which I may never get around to actually writing.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Need any help, let me know.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

(That's a joke. I'm kidding doa. LOL)

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Otis

isnt well liked around the league and doesnt get much consideration from other teams… It seems like the guy only deals with people he knows from his past…. Look at all these old washed up Golden State guys he keeps bringing in… I think Otis is a joke…. He needs to call Memphis and beg them for a trade cry if he has to I dont care… But this team is a JOKE right now

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

He got a pretty sweet deal in the Carter trade

Two crap players and Courtney Lee for a borderline All Star and Ryan Anderson.

Truth be told, Smith made out like a bandit in that trade.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He did but as it turns out that was a bone head trade

we should have kept that team together for another year… I think Alston was under appreciated here he had a great run with us he had a fire about him… I think he got really upset when he was traded away

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, because he's a nutcase

He started whining the second Nelson came back into the side.

Anytime you can convert your backup PG and backup big man into a borderline All Start starting two guard, you do it. If it doesn’t work out, so be it.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

lmao...that was funny.

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by Mr_Major on Feb 24, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Me neither.

I remember when the original idea was floated in the off-season, I was like, “There’s no way in hell this happens.” Lo and behold, it was one of the many things I’ve been wrong about in life.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Re mateo9939

I would have to go for whatever team gets SVG and Dwight then!

by OtownMagicFan on Feb 23, 2011 11:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Terrible game.

Just extremely sloppy and uninspired outside of Dwight and Hedo. Some ridiculous plays made by Sactown. “Embarrassing” is the correct word, yes. But this happens. As said in the post, we’ll see what happens on Friday.

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by slickw143 on Feb 23, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

New Orleans you want Nelson, J Rich, Bass, how ever many 1st round picks you want

for Paul and Ariza or Okafor? Please save us!!!!! You guys have the saints and LSU football. Please save our city by giving us Paul. Nelson is still good.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Well...On a positive note...

I was at the game and had awesome seats…LOL.

by MightyMouth on Feb 23, 2011 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

haha I hate that when you have great seats and they lose

my dad and I were in a box for the Dallas game where Jameer dislocated his shoulder, then were right near the court in the Nuggets game a little while later where the Magic lost epically (and right before the trade for Alston).

My dad and I decided we were never to sit in good seats again lol

Excuse me while I whip this out.

by TheGiantSquid on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL....I know...It sucks

But the tickets were free—-from a friend. So, I’m not complaining too much. But people were highly upset about the loss. I even heard a guy complaining about it in Wal-mart, where I went after the game.

by MightyMouth on Feb 23, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I had Awesome seats as well and

while im yelling for this team to play defense and trying to pump people up.. the lame duck a-hole in front of me turns around to tell me very rudly to shut up…. I couldnt believe it, here I am paying tons of money for these good seats and Im sitting around a bunch of prudes that dont even understand what being at a Pro sports game means…. UNBELIEVABLE

Id rather sit in the cheap seats with the TRUE FANS

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a low point in Magic Fan History

I told him off and pointed to the #6 Fans jersey hanging in the raftors, and then continued yelling for my team!

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Smh

Tough loss. Mannnnnnnn… We could’ve caught up a little to CHI for that 3 spot.

ORL★NDO, our time will come.

by magic12ball on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, that's why it's really tough, honestly.

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by slickw143 on Feb 23, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, thats what my biggest reason for the sigh was

Although any home loss isn’t fun.

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by JeffShann3 on Feb 23, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Thibodeau was seething after the Bulls' loss

He took the blame for not having the team ready, but he was really ticked at the fact the Raptors shot 58.3% and did whatever they wanted to offensively.

The Raptors also made 32 of 34 FTs.

Just like the Kings, the Raptors deserve credit for playing one of their best games of the year.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 23, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, they most certainly do.

Both teams shot the ball extremely well. Sac. was 50% from 3pt range tonight I think.

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by JeffShann3 on Feb 23, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing is...

…I wouldn’t rate this as one of their best played games.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Because the Bulls are (I believe) 5 games ahead of us in the loss column

Meaning w/ about 24 games left (for us), we need to pick up 1 game about every 5 games on them. And they’ve been playing better than us since about the 3rd week of the season.

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by JeffShann3 on Feb 23, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Against very bad teams

Before the All Star break, the Bulls schedule had a winning record of .472 or something. The Magic’s remaining schedule had a record of .495.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Injuries happen, teams hit slides.

It’s not unfathomable.

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by slickw143 on Feb 23, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup... and Chicago already had their "Bad" injury bit...

But tell me this; What did Orlando actually DO over this break; were they not supposed to PRACTICE defense; run more offensive plays; meld together???

That’s what happened last year, after the All-Star break… Magic went to a 24-5 run!

by manny55 on Feb 24, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

They just wanted to chill

Seriously though, there’s still plenty of time for the Magic to go on a run.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You wanna worry, we wanna chill....

While this loss sucks, perspective: the Bulls lost to the Raptors, the Lakers lost last week to the Cavs, and good teams always let up against mediocre roll-over teams especially in front of 2-3 big, tough, conference games. If we’re going to lose, would rather it be to a team with no division ramifications (i.e. tonight) than against the Bulls or Heat.

Finally – a shooter always is told to keep shooting. This team will get hot. Don’t trade everyone after every loss.

by DonaldRoyale on Feb 23, 2011 11:04 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Rec.

Really, losing to bad teams hasn’t been a trend (we’ve feasted on them mostly this season).

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by slickw143 on Feb 23, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic were 24-5 against losing teams this season prior to playing SAC

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 23, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the stat, as always.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Over the past 5 games

Dwight has just about been the leading scorer in the league. And with the talent around him, we should crush the Sacramento Kings at home. And they scored 111 points. SVG can’t work miracles on the defensive end.

But yes, a Friday win against OKC would make me feel better. Go Magic!

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by cgsimone on Feb 23, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

Sky won’t fall, earth won’t open up, fire won’t rain from the heavens, Howard won’t turn into the Incredible Hulk and the Amway Center won’t undergo a catastrophic existence failure.

The Magic will lose a game of basketball. And the world will go on.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 23, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I continue being an Orlando Magic fan and hope for a win Sunday against Charlotte.

Been doing it just about my whole life.

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by cgsimone on Feb 23, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I know I'm probably just stating the obvious,

But man, there’s truly something off with this Magic team. I really keep trying to convince myself and my close peers that we’re still true contenders. Losses like these, they just take the wind out of the sails.

ORL★NDO, our time will come.

by magic12ball on Feb 23, 2011 11:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Just a disastrous final 16:27 for the Magic

The Kings outscored the Magic 45-27 during this time to turn a 78-66 deficit into a 111-105 victory.

During that final 16:27, the Magic shot 8 of 29 (27.6%), including 2 of 14 (14.3%) on threes, and committed 6 turnovers. The Magic missed 16 of their final 18 three point attempts.

In that same time, the Kings made 15 of 26 shots (57.7%) and also shot 13 of 14 (92.9%) from the FT line.

Ryan Anderson shot 1 of 7 in those final 16 1/2 minutes and Jameer Nelson shot 1 of 6. Dwight Howard was 2 of 6 in that same time.

If Howard hadn’t made 11 of 12 FTs, the loss would have been even worse.

The Kings really deserve a lot of credit for playing so well shorthanded and not giving up when they were down 78-66 in the third.

The Magic can bounce back from this… a win over OKC Friday would be a good place to start.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 23, 2011 11:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Yeah

You can say “get it to Dwight” but he was missing too. The whole team stunk the place up in the last quarter.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 23, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Magic shooting 3s has really been a disappointment

Way too many nights where it’s a bad sub-par performance

PIZZA?!?

by Transplanted on Feb 24, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

HOW... exact;y how are the Magic going to do this?

Because I don’t see ANY improvement over the team that lost to OKC last time… Who is going to stop the Duran-Westbrook Express; who’s going to get the defensive rebounds (besides Howard); who’s going to STOP their constant penetration?

Please… don’t say Howard; their relentless drives will have Howard in foul trouble before the 10-minute mark of the First Qt! That is IF he does NOT get any defensive help… count on it.

THIS was the game where the Magic had to SHOW improvement, especially on DEFENSE!

by manny55 on Feb 24, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

The Magic are going to do it by being the team that showed up against LA.

Whether they can show up like that again or not remains to be seen.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

by not listening to people who capitalize every other word.

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by JeffShann3 on Feb 24, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The way Howard's playing right now, he should be MVP...

But the way the rest of the team is playing, it’s not gonna happen.

by REP96st on Feb 23, 2011 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

without howard we are a lottery team

And he knows that. Thatz why he’s gonna walk cus otis has sucked the life out of this team. Without dwight this is a bad team with no passion or heart. Dwight deserves to be around players who care so i wish him luck in the future wherever he decides to go.

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by poterajko on Feb 24, 2011 7:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

without howard we are a lottery team

And he knows that. Thatz why he’s gonna walk cus otis has sucked the life out of this team. Without dwight this is a bad team with no passion or heart. Dwight deserves to be around players who care so i wish him luck in the future wherever he decides to go.

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by poterajko on Feb 24, 2011 7:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah..

In another year or two, we will be a lottery team.. No biggie, Im pretty used to this.

by i2ambler on Feb 24, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm I wonder what we will be saying tomorrow sometime before 3 pm?

Maybe nothing, but then again…..damn Orlando tragic y do they do this to us!! I don’t care if it’s a regular season game. They have to win these games!!! I just don’t care … Make your effing shots. You get paid redic to make the shot!!!!

by OtownMagicFan on Feb 23, 2011 11:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm not sure there's anything obvious to do

van Gundy’s probably got enough headaches trying to beat Arenas and Richardson into the system, without giving him another new player to teach.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 23, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

OK Arenas needs to get something going..

in the right direction and soon. Dont know whats going on with him all season with the Magic he has missed open shots, turning the ball over and missing layups and has looked very poorly on this team. More of the same here but it wasnt all his fault. Anderson had an off game and so did Richardson. Nelson was sloppy with the basketball. And they just thought that they had an easy win in the bag and collapsed. The good FT shooter Howard showed up tonight and Turk was making plays and hitting his shots tonight though so some positives came out of this disappointment. Hopefully on Friday they play better and Arenas needs to find a way to make a positive contribution to this team and soon.

by Alex Parker on Feb 24, 2011 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

Arenas might just be

the biggest disaster in Magic History… we thought Grant Hill was bad? Grant Hill played a ton of games on one ankle and did twice as much as Gil as done… Man I hate Otis for this trade… we should take back the #1 jersey and give him #0 again because thats what he is a big fat 0…. and hes disgracing Penny Hardaway and T-Mac’s number

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Thing i don't want to see:

Dribble two steps and launch an ill-advised contested 3. Either pass it in to D12 or pass it around the perimeter.

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by 4QB on Feb 24, 2011 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Trade dead line

We could use a very, very, very good trade. If not I really think we may be able to beat atlanta. I don’t think we could beat the bulls and much less Boston or Miami. Not negative just hoping for a good trade.

by ozvic on Feb 24, 2011 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Question is....

Who can we get that would make a difference to the Magic? Murphy? Maybe but iffy on that and the other rumor is Randolph for Bass and Richardson. Dont really like Bass having to go because he is a nice mid range jumpshooter who can make you pay when he is wide open and can post you up and is a great rebounder. Basically im not sure Randolph is the type of player who is worth losing Bass over. He seems like a stat padder to me.

by Alex Parker on Feb 24, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Bass isn't a great rebounder at all

He’s like 41st in the league in rebound rate out of PFs.

Randolph is 6th. Does Dwight have something to do with that? Maybe – but Bass is right on his career average this season.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe great is an exaggeration ..

But he is a solid rebounder and this is the best season of his career, never mind the numbers.

by Alex Parker on Feb 24, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

That my be so

But Bass having the best season of his career is still only an above average NBA player – Randolph having the best season of his career is a borderline All Star, albeit in a significantly different role.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Bass will never be a cornerstone to a franchise

But he is still an important piece to the Magic. Randolph is the better player but not sure if he is the type of player that is worth losing a guy like Bass over. BTW Bass is still a relatively young player while Randolph is getting older and like you said both players have different roles to fill on their teams. Anyways would you think that Randolph is worth losing Bass over? (other players involved as well but i think you get my point)

by Alex Parker on Feb 24, 2011 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think having a post presence like what Randolph gives you is better than Bass.

Bass may not be great defensively, but you can guarantee Randolph won’t be.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

We can guarantee Bass won't be either hah.

But yes, I actually think Bass is a better fit for the team than Randolph, both on the court and financially.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes indeedy sir.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really get the appeal of Randolph, no

I think Richardson and Bass are a better short term fit for Orlando than Randolph and Mayo.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Bass also is

very streaky and hes not a good finisher at the rim (layup wise) he misses a lot of easy layups

although the entire team seems to miss easy layups come to think of it

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Evan, what is our record after getting 3 or more days of rest?

It seems like we suck at that.

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by 4QB on Feb 24, 2011 12:23 AM EST reply actions  

Actually, the Magic's record is 2-3 with three or more days rest

Wins against Minnesota and Golden State; losses to Philadelphia, New Orleans, and Sacramento.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 24, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Are we sure SVG isn't doing something wrong?

When one or two or your shooters are not shooting well, that can be attributed to a shooting slump.
When basically your entire team outside of Anderson has been shooting poorly from 3 for basically the entire season, doesn’t that point to a more structural problem in terms of Orl’s offense?
It doesn’t seem like SVG is trying anything really different from last year, but guys just don’t seem as comfortable. Maybe the league has finally figured out and adjusted to Orl’s offensive schemes, and Orl just hasn’t re-adjusted in turn.
Plus, we can talk all day about guys not giving enough effort, but isn’t a coach biggest job making sure that guys are out there motivated?

Just to make it clear I’m not saying we should fire SVG right now or anything, but it’s seeming more and more like coaching could be one of Orlando’s problems right now.

by logred on Feb 24, 2011 12:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I know it might seem like the entire team is slumping from 3 point range

But here are the %s of the main guys:

Anderson 40.1%
Redick 40.1%
Nelson 39.5%
Turk 36.4%
Richardson 36.1%

Anything over 35% is a reasonable mark. The guys aren’t hitting their shots lately, but they’re still alright over the course of the season.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

My bad. Looks like your right

Just looked up the numbers. Anderson, Redick, Nelson are shooting pretty similarly or better compared to last season. The ones slumping hard are the newcomers (especially Arenas who is jacking up an incredible 5.8 3s per 36 minutes at a 25% success rate. Has that even been done before in tue history of the NBA?) so it seems like the problem is new guys fitting in more than anything.
Which brings up the question… When our 3point shooting isn’t that far off from last year, Dwight is more dominant than ever, and our defense in terms of defensive efficiency is better than last year, Why the heck are we losing so much??

by logred on Feb 24, 2011 12:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Inconsistency

The efficiency might be up, but the defensive effort is so inconsistent that we’re as likely to hold the Lakers to 75 points as we are to give up 111 to the Kings.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

To answer my own question about Arenas...

In the history of the NBA there have only been 4 players other than Arenas who have played over 20 games and 10 minutes per game in a season, while shooting more than 5 3s per 36 minutes at a less than 26% success rate. None of those players played more than 40 games, none played more than 20.1 minutes. Arenas is playing 21.7 minutes. Way to go.

by logred on Feb 24, 2011 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The problem that some may see

Is that they shoot a vast majority of 3’s. So their 3-Point% ends up being near their FG%. What are their regular FG% numbers? I could be wrong.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 24, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That's only a problem

If they’re not making them efficiently. As long as they’re shooting over about 36%, their effective FG% on those shots will be at least 54% which is pretty nice, efficiency wise. FG% is, essentially, a garbage stat because it tells you nothing about how many points a player is scoring – someone who shoots nothing but 3s and makes 36% of them will score 8 points more per 100 possessions than someone who shoots nothing but 2s and makes 50% of them.

Orlando’s problem – Gilbert Arenas aside – isn’t three point shooting. Obviously, Gil making 25% of his threes is absolutely awful.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems that..

Every game that howard scores 25+ points, we lose… does anyone have any stats on this?

by i2ambler on Feb 24, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's because too many players on our team depend on offense.

When they’re not doing anything on offense, they don’t seem to do much on the defensive end either. Dwight is probably the only rotation player we have who plays D regardless of how his offense is doing.

Avoiding Dwight on offense isn’t the answer. The immature personalities of some of the other players are the core of the problem, in my opinion.

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by slickw143 on Feb 24, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

AHHHH! You hit a sour spot

Van Gundy is MANY things… a brilliant strategist, a great in-your-face coach, and sharp media manager.

But one thing he is NOT; he’s NOT a good motivator. Can’t help our Team there…

by manny55 on Feb 24, 2011 12:35 AM EST reply actions  

So, bring in a motivator?

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by 4QB on Feb 24, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

I said so about two years ago; after all, some of the greatest athletes of the past century had them, and they played a BIG part in their success… take the case of Martina Navratilova. She NEVER won a Grand Slam till she sought the help of a sports psychologist. After that… she never lost one (or, clsoe to that…)!

I KNOW deep down that the RIGHT professional would help Howard to improve dramatically his free throws… I KNOW! But it won’t be this pathetic Ewing, who the camera CONSTANTLY catches taking a nap… DURING EACH GAME!

And the OTHERS, don’t seem particularly keen on what’s happening during a game; they are barely coherent! That’s WHY I question the background; the cualifications of EACH of the Magic Assistant Coaches. But NO ONE seems to have an answer…

by manny55 on Feb 24, 2011 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

D12 is getting better at the line...

The best stat in this game tonight was Howard shooting 92% at the line. Going 11-12 and shooting 70% from the line in the last 5 games. That’s where his points spurts are coming from. If he continues shooting 70% from the line the rest of the season, he’ll be at 30ppg 14rpg and win MVP. Enjoy it now that he’s here killing jokers like tonite. 31pt 17rb, 2bl 2st…

by DonDannyPR on Feb 24, 2011 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Correction just in case misunderstood.

Not 30ppg for the season just the last 24 games left he can easily average 30/14/3… If he we feed him the ball.

by DonDannyPR on Feb 24, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm keeping an eye on this stat too...

My wife kept shaking her head in wonder… The fact that the other teams are fouling him at a steady rate seems to have gotten Howard in some sort of “grove”… the more he tries the more mechanical it gets, and he’s been very accurate! This would be the GREATEST news this year…

Keep it up, Big Guy!

by manny55 on Feb 24, 2011 5:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I think "groove" is the word you're looking for

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 24, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Live by the 3 died by the 3

If somebody could tell me which team has won the championship by bombing 3’s

by ozvic on Feb 24, 2011 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

Houston.

Also San Anotnio had a bunch of shooters around Duncan and Robinson.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Feb 24, 2011 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Even the Spurs team that beat the Cavs

Took over 1,700 threes, good for 7th in the league.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to attempt a balance of this since the Kings have been my team since I was 12...

…and the Magic are now my 2nd favorite team for the last couple years. (I only saw the first half though.)

The Kings take terrible shots, and for whatever reason, they were getting decent shots in the 1st half. But when you turn up the pressure? They melt. Orlando never turned up the pressure in the 3rd.

One other point: Leads aren’t safe. They aren’t predictable, and when you let down, these kids come back. I’ve seen them make games out of ridiculous situations most teams lose by 20. All year long. In the same game where they looked like losing by 30 points should be done every outing.

Jekkyl & Hyde. That’s how this team has been, and Orlando didn’t come out solid enough all night to get the job done to knock ‘em out. They can beat anybody and lose to anybody with Tyreke Evans healthy. But when he’s not in there? All bets are off, and apparently Orlando didn’t force enough bad shots. (Or the Kings were hitting them. They do that sometimes.) It’s too bad as this team was ripe for the picking. But I suggest for everyone who think this is an abberation, I suggest otherwise. I’ve seen this Kings team do stranger things than beat a blase Orlando team on it’s home floor. Seriously.

That said, with Dwight Howard having the performance he did tonight, I’m still puzzled how he only got effectively 23 shot attempts (adding in FT’s) as opposed to most stars who would have gotten 35-40. I didn’t see 2nd half, but Dwight should have easily had 50 tonight with the way he was scoring the ball from what I did see.

Based on memory of Taylor’s 1st half, he had a decent 1st half and 2nd half. Dalembert recovered in the 2nd half and so did Thompson. None of this stuff is beyond unusual for any of these guys.

Quite honestly, I’ll always be confused how Orlando lost to this team for one reason: When you have Dwight Howard, being, well, Superman, why aren’t you riding him? I’m not sure whether to be thrilled that my beloved baby Royals won or dismayed that Orlando can’t come out and knock out a struggling Jekkyl & Hyde team when they had the shot. Truthfully it’s a bit of both.

Sigh.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

The offense doesn't worry me that much

The defense? Giving up 111 points to a Kings team missing their best player is abysmal. The Magic were just flat an uninterested in playing hard defensively.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Thing is you can score points off this Kings offense...

…because of their shot selection and turnover proneness. When the Magic took that lead, that’s exactly what happened. Why didn’t they continue that? No clue whatsoever. Sigh.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 24, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Lakers are big and they have Kobe.

Gasol, Bryum and Odem are a problem because of their size. Why u think Boston got so beef up in the middle. It wasn’t because they were worried of the lakers 3 pointers. It was the lakers size and Kobe.

by ozvic on Feb 24, 2011 12:49 AM EST reply actions  

Yet the fact remains

The Lakers shot a lot of 3 pointers (because Phil Jackson knows it’s a good shot).

The problem with Orlando isn’t shooting 3s, it’s being lazy defensively. We don’t live and die by the three – we live and die by our defensive effort. The Magic should be able to beat the freaking Sacramento Kings without Tyreke Evans when scoring 105 points. That should be ten points more than enough to win. The Magic lost because the Kings were getting easy shot after easy shot after easy shot, because Orlando wasn’t chasing guys, wasn’t getting body on body, and wasn’t taking care of rotations.

by eltharion_doa on Feb 24, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Awww. I thought that we had a good rhythm and that the ALG break might hurt that,

but I never thought we would lose this one.

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by 44792212 on Feb 24, 2011 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

WTH Happened?

I didn’t watch the game but was looking at the score. The Magic seemed to be in control most of the game, then a fourthquartercollapse(ok, who gets the pun?).

Not the way you want to come out of the break. At home, against a sub .500 team, w/o its best player, and short a couple players because of the trade. BS, Magic. Bad, Bad effort. I try to stay optimistic about thing but this is getting ridiculous.

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by L Magico on Feb 24, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Did anyone notice last night

that SVG seemed to be leaving Gilbert out there for much longer stretches of the game… Wonder if hes trying to see if he can get anything out of him before he decides to burry him on the bench

by MagicMichael on Feb 24, 2011 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

anyone wanna watch the Chi-Mia game with me?

I need to stay awake :|

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by TheGiantSquid on Feb 24, 2011 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

anyone? anyone? Bueller?

I’ll start a new thread and everything…

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by TheGiantSquid on Feb 24, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

forever alone

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by TheGiantSquid on Feb 24, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Heavens. What is this?

I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.

by Redfield on Feb 24, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

google "forever alone"

know yer meme.

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by TheGiantSquid on Feb 24, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

it's all right :(

thanks for trying though.

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by TheGiantSquid on Feb 24, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

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