Earl Clark Continues to Show Promise as Orlando Magic Prospect
The Orlando Magic knocked off the Philadelphia 76ers last night, 99-95, to pick up their second straight win, and they got some help from an unlikely source to pull it off. Second year forward Earl Clark played 22 quality minutes off the bench, quietly tallying 8 points and a career-best 9 rebounds. It's the latest entry in a strong stretch of games for the lanky Louisville product, who's making the most of his opportunity to play nightly as starting power forward Brandon Bass nurses a sprained left ankle.
Clark has appeared in Orlando's last five games, during which the team has gone 3-2. In those games, he's averaged 7.6 points and 5.6 rebounds in 18.2 minutes, which is reasonable productivity from a reserve forward in this league. The downside is his 42.9 percent shooting from the floor, a poor mark for a 6-foot-10 player who doesn't have three-point range or get to the foul line to compensate for his inaccurate shooting. Still, his play recently shows progress from where he stood when Orlando acquired him via trade with the Phoenix Suns nearly two months ago.
His strong work ethic is no doubt playing a role in his improvement. Last week, Magic strength and conditioning coach Joe Rogowski praised Clark by saying, "I've never had any one make progress so fast," in an interview for an Orlando Sentinel story. According to Rogowski, Clark has added "10 pounds of muscle" and ranks second to only Dwight Howard on the team in terms of wingspan, at 7-foot-2. His body now matches his position, in other words, as he used to lack the strength to defend power forwards. Now, coach Stan Van Gundy feels comfortable using him as the "defense" part in an offense-defense substitution pattern, alternating Clark's stints with Ryan Anderson's in the waning minutes of last night's victory.
Brian Schmitz's piece on Clark wasn't the first instance of a team official praising him. Last month, Van Gundy noted Clark frequently stays late after home games in which he doesn't play in order to work out and get some shots up at the team's practice facility. He also said Clark has the raw athletic tools to become "a really, really good player." David Thorpe, a professional trainer and contributor to ESPN.com, said in an online chat Tuesday afternoon he believes Van Gundy "may" harness Clark's gifts and mold him into a game-changer in the Lamar Odom mold.
To be clear, the Magic haven't used Clark at all like Odom's teams have used him: as a playmaking forward who intitates the offense. Instead, he sets screens--both on and away from the ball--rolls to the basket, and makes himself available for long two-point jumpers. Sometimes he manages to catch in spot-up situations and blow by his defender for layups, but more often he's found himself wide-open and unloading for a deep two. Defenses will be more than happy to surrender that shot, which is why it's something he'll need to improve upon going forward. Time will tell if Van Gundy will ever trust Clark to run the offense; he has just 3 assists in 174 minutes in an Orlando uniform.
Further, Clark's rebounding has picked up during this five-game span. His career rebound rate--an estimate of the percentage of available rebounds he grabs while on the court--of 10.2 represents the low end of what one might expect from a player with his size and skill. Per 36 minutes, he averages 6.4 rebounds, another low figure. But in his last five games, he's improved to 11.4 rebounds. That's huge, especially for Orlando, which needs to support Howard and Anderson's work on the glass. Moreover, it gives Van Gundy further incentive to play Clark even when his shots aren't falling.
As it stands, Van Gundy can't keep Clark off the court so long as Bass' ankle isn't right. When he returns to action, Clark's role will certainly diminish. But he's at least showing here, of late, the Magic may have found a young contributor at either forward spot for seasons to come, provided they re-sign him when his contract expires this summer.
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If only he would cut out those crappy long twos
We’d have a pretty nice young player here. Hope he re-signs with Orlando in the summer.
Or, at least, if he can start making them consistly.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 10, 2011 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Whoa, whoa, whoa
Let’s not start getting crazy here.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 10, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
I would be happier if he took 15-18 ft jumpers, instead of 19-20 ft jumpers.
But yeah, he needs to cut down of jumper-taking all together
Arenas needs to hurry up and shoot himself (out of this slump).
I still would like to see him in the 3 spot every now and again.
Hedo at PG
Q-Rich at SG
Clark at SF
Anderson at PF
Howard at C
That’s an utterly crazy lineup that I’d really like to see get a few mins on the floor. I’d be really curious as to how the length – eveyone other than Q-Rich is 6’10"-plus – anchored by the defensive skill of Howard and Q-Rich, would do on that end. While the 3-pt ability of Anderson, Hedo, and (though slightly cold right now) Q-Rich, keeps the floor stretched somewhat for a driving Clark and Howard down low.
I just wish SVG would give it a shot, maybe in like the 3rd quarter when the team is up by double digits or something, and doing so for 5 mins probably couldn’t determine the outcome of the game.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 10, 2011 8:26 AM EST reply actions
Turk's the only creator in that group, and as we know his decision-making is kinda dodgy sometimes.... he'd really have to be on his game for that to work.
True.
The hope would be that Hedo could hold it together on the offensive end, or at least they’d have an easier time getting it into Dwight over the smaller opposing players.
On the defensive end, if they could stay even somewhat cohesive, seems to be pretty high.
Again, I’m not suggesting a starting lineup. It could end up being a total disaster. I’m just curious how it might play out, so experimenting during a game that appears to be “nearly” out of reach for the opposing team seems to be the best time. Give it maybe 2-4 mins just to see what happens. Run high PnRs with Hedo/Howard, with Q and Anderson camping at the 3-pt line, and Clark making cuts – not a lot of creativity available, but fundamentally ok.
I see it more as a defensive unit (due to the size, and Q/Howard combo), with some ‘basic’ offensive potential.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 10, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
I am more interested in a Clark/Hedo pick and roll
Clark is such a wild card due to his long arms. You can only appreciate them when you see him live. I mean they are long. I really hope he stays. Mid Level exception should do it. If it still exsists in the new CBA. But there is something there to work with.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Oh, he's not going to need the mid-levvevl. Not the full.
Bass was older and better and the Magic nabbed him for $4 million. Clark might get, what, $3 million? Maybe a bit more?
by Evan Dunlap on Feb 10, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Not even that much
Unless he blows it up in the playoffs.
2 years, $5m.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 10, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
And I have to believe that all contracts post-lockout will be even smaller.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Feb 10, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
When he was drafted, analyst compared him to a young Lamar Odom w/o the court vision.
He definitely looks good and is getting better with more playing time and practice. He absolutely needs to improve his range, I’m not talking all the way to 3 but if they keep giving him open 18 footers, he needs to make defenses pay. Wouldn’t be hysterical if we ended up with a Seattle SuperSonics Rashard Lewis clone?
I think he will be more of a Marvin Williams player
Which wouldn’t be bad, if Marvin Williams was not the 2nd player picked in the 05 draft ahead of Paul and Williams. But the Magic getting him with what would basically amount to the 24 pick in this year’s draft? Great value and fair comparison.
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True, thats not a bad consolation prize.
I, for one, am happy that it seems we are developing young talent and we might get a really good “gadget” guy as Evan has talk about before. Normally, it’s Hedo but he is real spotty alot. It would just be nice to have someone who can play AND defend multiple positions and be the “X” factor/ Wild Card/ how on earth did he end up with a 10-7-5-3-2 state line?
by LastActionZero on Feb 10, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
I am going to guess your 5 = blocks
Don’t ever see Clark being able to have 5 assits in a game. Unless it is the dump off pass to Dwight which he did a couple of times last night. But a 10 point 7 rbs 3 asts 3 blks 2 stls. Maybe AK 47 is a better comparison.
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He's alternated back and forth...
Between looking really capable handling and distributing the ball on occasion and looking like he’s never even dribbled the ball. He has the potential to refine that part of his game. He’ll never be Hedo or Odom, but he can be solid, I believe.
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His ball-handling does need work.
Everyone keeps saying that he need to work on defense, size/strength, and then his shot. But that’s because people see him as a PF, not a SF, which is what his natural position is.
I, for one, think he needs to make his priorities 1) Defense 2) Ball-handling w/ passing 3) Shooting
He’s plenty big, especially for a SF. Don’t ignore the weight room, obviously, but adding more size shouldn’t have to be one of his main priorities right now.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Feb 10, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Those are valid points dependent on where his preferred position is. For a PF, he needs to bulk up, but for a SF he doesn't.
In my view, for somebody with his ball handling and passing skills, he belongs more to the PF than to SF position. And the rule of thumb in pro basketball – due to scarcity of bigs – is to move players up rather than down.
The weight room does matter in basketball
especially when it comes to defense.
Don’t play that aspect down. His adding muscle mass is a correlation to his defensive presence.
http://borntohustleroses.blogspot.com/
On top of what my other OPP colleagues have already mentioned...
Orlando needs him to be a big, not a wing who has a low long-2 and 3pt percentage.
I think in college he seemed like a guy who used his athleticism and explosiveness to blow by guys from the perimeter. At least this was my impression when I saw his Louisville highlight reels. So he was an SF back then. But he has the body of a 4 guy, with a 7’2 wingspan. Defensively he can guard 4s in the NBA, with a bit of muscle which is what he’s doing right now.
I don't think he'll be as good of a 3 point shooter as Shard.
But that’s just my assumption. I suppose he’s never been given the opportunity to prove that in Phoenix and definitely not in Orlando.
Baby steps, he’s filling in well in defense, and that’s the least he can do. At least his defensive impact is enabling SVG to put him and Ryan on at the same time, and not put Malik on to spell Dwight. (in a perfect world Malik Allen should be in a suit every night)
What I hope he is proving is that Bass or Anderson can give Dwight some more minutes to rest.
Those 10-15 minutes that Dwight needs to breathe should go to Clark allowing Bass or Anderson. Malik Allen can not shoot, can not rebound, can not do defend, basically can not do anything. Clark is learning the rotations, I keep saying it he is missing fewer and fewer rotations. When he misses they are bad, but the only way to learn is to play. He really is silky smooth around the rim. I think he will start to drive a little more with some confidence.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Clark, at this stage of his development, needs to focus on defense, which bulking up is a proper step in that direction.
I don’t see the similarities with Lamar Odom except that he possesses a good first step to attack the rim, and a decent finisher at the rim. He lacks ball handling, court vision and range which Odom provides. Out of the three, range could be added to his arsenal – with practice – since his jump-shots have a good form. My suggestion for him would be: 1) bulk up; 2) focus on defense; and 3) practice on the short jumper. I see no reason that these three objectives could not be focused on simultaneously although the first two should receive preference.
Exactly
The Lamar Odom comparisons are unwarrented. Probably because they are the same height, and they sometimes can be enigmatic. Clark is passive in the Odom mold. Not saying he is not feisty, as evidence of him going right at KG. This kid is from Jersey, I am sure he has a chip on his shoulders.
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Glad to see the guy developing
We can’t count on any trades to bail us out. We need our current assets to produce.
I like what I’ve seen from Clark. Good work ethic is always valuable.
as long as
he keeps up that good level of effort he can become a solid player in the league. It’s always nice to see a young player with lots of energy and enthusiasm giving it his all.
OT: Evan, have you noticed a considerable difference in Stan's outlook when it comes to the team's performance?
When I listen to audio clips of SVG during the shoot arounds on the Sports RX with the Shot Doctor and Daivd Buffa, weekdays from 3:00-6:30 on 740 The Game (shameless plug), he seems MUCH more positive and optimisitic about a win, loss, or just how the team is playing in general. I know he said he, when talking to the media, he was going to work on highlighting the positives instead of dwelling on the negatives. Have you noticed a change from last season?
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Feb 10, 2011 9:23 AM EST reply actions
I think he has changed his attitude a bit, yeah.
by Evan Dunlap on Feb 10, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Do you think he'd be a lot more demanding of the team had they been winning a lot more?
Negativity in a tough stretch doesn’t really help, so you try to a bit more nicer. But when you’re winning, as a perfectionist you seek to do more.
Yeah, I think that's what really is going on.
Even when the trades were made, and we lost with only playing 7 players, he was not making any excuses about anything. He was angry. Even during the 9 game winning streak, he kept harping on energy and the slow starts. With this most recent stretch, he’s been praising the team even in losses to Miami and Boston, because… what else can he do? This isn’t the same team, and I believe the standards have been lowered.
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Otis Smith
You have to give Otis a little credit for getting guys like Clark and Anderson in these trades. I’m also cautiously optimistic about what Gilbert might look like as his legs get stronger.
He keeps finding young players that fit the scheme.
Now as far as him finding veteran players, aside from Rashard that has been questionable. Vince, Gil, Duhon, Q.Even Matt Barnes, aside from getting in Kobe’s face didn’t do that much. But young players he has been pushing the right buttons(except for Vasquez). Was part of the management that drafted Dwight, Jameer, and Varejao. Drafted JJ. Courtney Lee. Traded for Ryan Anderson and Earl Clark. Signed Bass. I think Orton will be a benefit as well.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Agree.
Not ready to put Clark in the plus column just yet, but he does have potential.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Feb 10, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
PHX didn't even pick up his option.
That’s Joe Alexander treatment right there.
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Sarver is a cheap cheap cheap owner.
Ask Phoenix fans. Having said that, I think for Phoenix it was a filler, for Orlando it had to be part of the deal.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
certainly Otis wasn't going to trade for our backup center without getting some kind of "big" as a compensation.
and a lottery pick with a huge wingspan is better than Garett Siler, or whoever it is rides the pine as their reserve centers
He's a better judge of potential
Than he is of ability.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 10, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if anyone will get this references
But we really should be like FC Barcelona and Arsenal. They scout and sign/draft the players that fit their scheme. This allows them to grow as a team. Well I guess an NBA reference should be the Spurs. If Otis is this good at finding talent then we should really build on the draft and scouting. Free Agents are nice, but players that you find and develop usually are fit better. That is why I hope the NBA use the D-Leauge more effectively. Use it as a minor league. Cut rosters to 12. Have players on the D-League that way if injuries happen you bring them up and nothing really misses a beat. Basically have a roster of 24 players. That way others are still playing keeping their stamina and game shape, and if need be can come in and fit perfectly. Then like Baseball, have an April callups or something. Expand rosters then. NBA really could be so much more than it already is.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Players union don't want rosters cut
Bad for morale to lose jobs, even if it means extending the D-league rosters.
I can sort of see what you’re saying re: player development but I’m not convinced it’s possible to run a team like they do football clubs in Europe, because of the draft and lack of youth and reserve teams, not to mention the salary cap and the differences in player movement. There’s definitely room for Orlando to improve it’s youth development side, though, especially given we’re not going to be signing big money FAs any time soon…
by eltharion_doa on Feb 10, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
That is why they should use the D League.
As for players union, they are probably not going to get what they want in this new CBA. They have zero leverage. But I agree they wont want to do that. But that is why they can have the April Callups similar to baseball call ups in september in baseball. Trying to think outside of the box.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
He's taken big gambles (Shard and Arenas)
but his prowess in acquiring youngsters hasn’t been that bad. The Vasquez deal… it could yet pay out, I think what many people’s issue with that one is that it was such a high pick. No one really cares when you draft high-pick Euros e.g. Tiago Splitter.
Though it’s not like Otis intentionally went out to grab Anderson and Clark. At the time of their respective trades they were “throw ins”
It was bad because he passed on Danny Granger.
Dwight, Granger, Nelson, JJ would be nice.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Otis and the organization have said from day 1 of the trade for Carter
that Ryan Anderson was not a “throw in” by any means. They wanted him and they demanded he be part of the deal.
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Same with Earl Clark.
Otis really seems to have an eye for young talent. Which is why I am actually excited about Daniel Orton. Could help in the giving Dwight a break rotation.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Different with Earl Clark, because PHO had no use for him.
He wasn’t impressing the coaches.
http://borntohustleroses.blogspot.com/
only after 2 years being drafted number 14.
Fast forward to here in Orlando, and it didn’t take long before Stan is praising his work ethic. So either Earl Clark had an epiphany, or the Phoenix coaches did not know how to deal with him.
Maybe he woke up
Wouldn’t be the first time a young kid slacked off until he was about to be bounced out of the league.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 11, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
fwedo, that says more to me about Alvin Gentry than Earl Clark, dont you think?
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my bad, I forgot about this. I guess my point has to be restated in that he wasn't the focal point of the deal.
i.e. if VC wasn’t going to be trade, nor was Ryan. I don’t think they would’ve consented to a straight up Lee for Ryan deal.
It looks like Otis' legacy may very well be a keen eye for emerging talent...
…and being a little shaky on big contract players.
Regardless of the struggles the team has had the last couple seasons, championship teams always have a few guys like JJ, Bass, and Anderson.
The core of Dwight, Jameer, JJ, Anderson, and Bass is incredibly solid. I fear we still need a major offensive/defensive upgrade to compete. Either through improved play or moving them for other pieces, that spark must come from Turk, J-Rich, and Arenas.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Feb 10, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
That defensive upgrade could be Clark
Really surprised he(and Anderson as well) have help shut down Griffin and Young, who earlier went off on us. I might be mistaken, but I do not recall Clark playing the 3 for us yet. Wouldn’t mind a Meer, Richardson(either/or depending on what is needed) Clark, Anderson and Dwight. Except for Meer that is a lot of long arms and height. Clark’s arm are unnaturally long.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I'd really like to see Turk in the role of playmaker in the second unit with a long-armed defensive presence starting at the 3.
I don’t know if that’s Earl Clark, but I’m not holding my breath for Gerald Wallace, either.
by Hoop Dreams 2 on Feb 10, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Turk = Manu???
Wouldn’t hurt. Clark starting might cause a ripple and some grumbling. Maybe. I think he has length to bother 3’s and he also has the gritiness and toughness, without being a d*** about it, a la Matt Barnes. Really like his upside.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I like his confidence and the fact that he shows improvement in D.
But I think that if he starts to pass the ball more he’ll be even more in sync with the offense and that will be a big plus on his game cause I don’t consider him as “flowless” as Bass (and I say that with affection).
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Really happy about his progress
because I think he can be a real asset for the team. He has the lateral quickness to guard 4s and some 3s, and with the added bulk he can hold his own in the post. But he sometimes looks like he is “thinking” too much on the court and isn’t as smooth I believe he can be.
But the Magic do not have a lot of trade-able assets and if Clark continues to show he can play, it only benefits the Magic. Also, the man never smiles.
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The thinking part is common for someone who rarely plays
Agree with you 100%, he doesn’t want to make a mistake. Almost trying to earn the approval of SVG. Gotta love the kid.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I see a lot of exaggerations on Clark.
He is a young potential on his second year in the league, and hasn’t proved anything yet. If he proves that he could be valuable defensibly, he has a chance to advance further. If not, he is done, or at least for this team under this coach. I may have been a bit harsh, but that is reality in NBA.
I would not think Otis traded him as a rental
Ricahrdson maybe, but Clark. I think they will probably be able to sign a reasonable contract. Somewhere around the amount that Evan said earlier. I do think he has shown a great work ethic, the ability to take coaching, and also the desire to want to be better. He has also improved his defense each game he has played. I hope we do not see complacency with him though.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Reasoning for extreme positions hasn't been your strongest suit but this beats all prior reasoning.
Considering J-Rich and Carter a wash – a position I advocated before and is not open to debate – we were forced to take Hedo’s contract – doesn’t matter whether we wanted it or not – and gave up the best back-up center and our best perimeter defender, and yet you want us to give credit to Smith for getting an unproven second year player?
Was not trying to be extreme
Just more of the thought I do not think Otis traded for him just to have him leave. Especially since he would be cheap. Plus Earl Clark is probably better than any player we would draft somewhere between 24-30. He was a lottery pick so I view it as he would have higher potential and value then anyone in that range. That is what I was trying to say.
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Excuse me for the OT but did Jerry sloan got fired ?
I didn’t see that one coming.
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Well, it appears right now he is only 1/5 the player Bass is, as a Bass related post would have gotten 300+ posts
Arenas needs to hurry up and shoot himself (out of this slump).
hahaha
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