NBA Kills Chris Paul-to-Los Angeles Lakers Trade, Impacts Orlando Magic Positively and Negatively
Shortly after the Los Angeles Lakers, Houston Rockets, and New Orleans Hornets agreed on a trade proposal that would send Hornets all-world point guard Chris Paul to L.A., the NBA nixed the deal and told all players involved to report to their current teams' training camps Friday, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports. Commissioner David Stern killed the trade because, Wojnarowski says, "a chorus of owners were irate with the belief that the five-month lockout had happened largely to stop big-market teams from leveraging small-market teams for star players pending free agency." The NBA is the Hornets' custodian, meaning the owners of the other 29 teams also, in a way, own the Hornets.
Notably, Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times cites a source as disputing Wojnarowski's report. "Not true that owners killed the deal," Bresnahan quotes his source as saying. "League office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons."
The situation has several implications for the Orlando Magic. Having been rebuffed in their efforts to land Paul as their star of the future, the Lakers could redouble their efforts to pry Dwight Howard from Orlando. With Paul off the table for L.A., Howard becomes its top target; Deron Williams, who like Paul and Howard is eligible for free agency in 2012, could also draw more attention from L.A. as a result of this news. This is the negative news from a Magic standpoint.
The news isn't all bad, however, as I'll outline below the jump.
But on a happier note, from an Orlando perspective, it keeps Paul on the trade market. Ken Berger reported a week ago that Paul informed the Hornets in July 2010 he wanted them to trade him to one of three teams: the Lakers, New York Knicks, and Orlando. With Los Angeles now out of the running and New York wanting for trade assets, Orlando might have just taken the lead in the Paul sweepstakes, assuming he hasn't had a change of heart between last July and now.
Put the July 2010 request together with the news that Paul and Howard have spoken recently about teaming up and the possibility of a Paul/Howard pairing becomes a bit more real. Add the New Orleans Times-Picayune report that Orlando is among several teams to have "preliminary trade discussions" with the Hornets regarding Paul, and... you get the idea.
Obviously, there are obstacles to any trade, and Orlando's biggest at the moment is coming up with enough assets to convince New Orleans to pull the trigger on a Paul deal. In the one the NBA killed tonight, the Hornets would have received Lamar Odom, Kevin Martin, Luis Scola, Goran Dragic, and a future first-round draft pick. If you buy Bresnahan's source saying the league nixed the trade for basketball reasons, that means it didn't think that package was good enough for Paul. Orlando cannot, on its own, put together a deal nearly as attractive; about the best it could hope for is that Houston is still interested in facilitating a trade, which seems doubtful because, under the one the league killed, it would have received Pau Gasol. Without the Lakers' involvement, there's simply no incentive for the Rockets to get involved.
Again, there are complications. But in the NBA, superstars ultimately have the final say where they'll play, even after the latest lockout. I'm behind Henry Abbott all the way when he argues that's not a bad thing:
In deciding where Chris Paul ought to live after his contract is up in New Orleans, there is a list of people who need to weigh in. The list is: 1) Chris Paul and 2) his family. There is no number 3.
That's the freedom Paul has earned not by being an NBA player, nor by being a superstar. That's the freedom he has earned by being an adult in the free world.
We're in for a nutty season, and the rumors haven't even begun to really start swirling yet. Get ready.
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Woj reporting a source that says Stern just didn't like the players dictating destinations.
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Who is he trying to kid?
After some poking around and following the heavy hitters, there’s only one word to describe this mess: Incompetent. Calls for David Stern’s job have already hit Twitter from respected media members, and to borrow a quote from Dave Hogg of the Detroit press, “the NBA’s credibility has landed somewhere between NASCAR and the WWE.”
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 8, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Is it realistic that Orlando can trade/amnesty their way to making room for either Paul or D-Will after this season?
I don’t have a good grip on the financial situation, just wondering if it’s realistic.
It's near impossible.
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Honestly, I don't like this at all.
My reasoning is that this likely means CP3 can’t be traded at all until the league finds a new owner for the Hornets. Can you imagine the case the Lakers would have against a potential deal of CP3 to Orlando? I appreciate that the Lakers didn’t get CP3, but there’s a fine line to ride when it comes to vetoing trades like this.
Most importantly, if LA is no longer in the running for CP3, they turn their attention to our star player. Under the trade proposal from earlier today, if the Lakers got CP3, they wouldn’t have been able to get Dwight. We were looking safe for those few hours.
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by 808duck on Dec 8, 2011 10:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Damn - did I miss something? Did Otis resign as GM from the Magic and take over the same job for Houston?
From the trade rumors Houston was going to give up Martin, Scola and picks for P Gasol. Not certain any GM other than Otis would trade this amount for an aging power forward.
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Read Hollinger's article about this...
This was going to be an excellent trade for the Houston Rockets. They would’ve freed up just enough cap space to sign Nene. They could’ve ended up as a top 4 seed.
It's bloody brilliant
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned. Dwight’s first choice of teammate (not currently on the roster) is presumably CP3. Now that CP3 is out of LA, that makes LA less attractive to Dwight. Now, it doesn’t mean he will not leave Orlando or leave for LA, but it makes it much less likely if he knows CP3 won’t be there.
The way the trade was going to happen, LA wouldn't have been able to get Dwight after getting CP3
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Well, Otis is still the GM...
so, LA could have offered Bynum and a box of cookies and Otis might have taken it. Especially if they were leftover cookies from Golden State.
That's something we have no idea about.
No way just Bynum gets them Dwight though.
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 9, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Not saying I wanted this trade to happen,
but it’s dicey that Stern stepped in on this. I think it was a good deal for New Orleans but a terrible deal for the Rockets. The only thing that gives me hope is that indeed Orlando has been thrust back into the running for CP3 with the Lakers being out.
Either way this has certainly been entertaining. Oh NBA, you are such a mess sometimes. If I hadn’t been watching you since I was knee high to a grasshopper I might just be inclined to quit you. But we’re stuck together.
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by cgsimone on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
As much as I want CP3 to be with the Magic.
What Stern did today feels wrong. Like your mom sticking up for you or something. NOLA and LA beat Houston in a fair negotiation.
Fair Negotiation?
or the GM of the Rockets is just dumb.
Every team has a different strategy
The cap space provided to Houston in the trade likely would have been directed at getting Nene and probably go him. A backcourt of Nene and Pau with Lowry at point and several other good young players put them in a much better position than they are now.
This isnt right.
Stern and the owners had their chance to get things right during the negotiations. They didn’t. You can’t pull rank now because this happened. You didn’t fix the problem. This is within the rules.
Don’t pull the “no owner for the Hornets” excuse. CP3 isn’t coming back regardless of who buys it. They got an all-star back in return in Kevin Martin.
I don’t necessarily agree. Was it questionable? Yes. But isn’t the NBA supposed to protect its’ product? (They might be hurting it by doing this, granted.). After all, they are the owners of the Hornets. They had to step in and prevent it from going down, didn’t they? Well, it is completely logical to think that New Orleans was going to receive compensation, but isn’t the NBA’s (Stern’s) Job to protect the product. High concentration of star players in few markets would kill it in the long run. You can’t have 8 or 9 of the top 15 players playing in 3 or 4 teams. At the beginning it is interesting and new, but what would happen after 3 or 4 seasons with the same results: FINAL = LA vs Miami? Will the overall lose value, well, I think it WILL. If you consider that Stern did not legally “vetoed” the transaction as if it were any other team, he took a business decision as a owner of the Hornets. Minutes after the trade was unofficially announced man fans reacted by saying: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COMPETITIVE BALANCE? This would have been an equally difficult blow for the NBA, especially after the lockout melodrama. One thing would have been an independent owner pulling the transaction, but the NBA could not have done it: they have too many constituencies to look for.
The most ridiculous thing to come out of the lockout.
Is the argument that every person has the right to choose where they live and where they work in the context of player transactions.
No one has that right as described by players and sports writers (except maybe writers and architects).
If you work for a company based out of Seattle and you want to live in Los Angeles, too bad. They don’t open a Los Angeles branch to accommodate your whims.
You have to quit your current job and try and find a new job in L.A.
This inherent freedom is 100% intact in regards to NBA players. An NBA player is under no duress to continue making millions to play the game of basketball. At any point any player can resign from the NBA and move to any city and work as a lawyer or fireman or whatever occupation they choose to pursue (with no guarantee of success or financial security just like the rest of us).
If you are employed by the NBA and the NBA says they need you at the Milwaukee office or the New Orleans office then you work at that office. Don’t like it? Then don’t work for the NBA.
That is the actual reality of adult freedom that most of us operate under.
The implication that by not encouraging NBA employees to dictate every aspect of where and how the NBA employs them that NBA players are somehow having basic human rights withheld is dangerously ignorant.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 8, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Craptastic post
I can’t believe this post actually got 7 recs. Did the rest of you guys actually read this? The post is full of stupid analogies that make no sense. Any intelligent person would conclude when NBA players said that they want the right to choose where to live and work they meant in terms of existing franchises in the league. I don’t think it was the goal of any NBA player to fight for the right to force the NBA to establish a team in Boise, Idaho if that’s where they decided to live. They just wanted the right to free agency and choose which team to play for.
“If you work for a company based out of Seattle and you want to live in Los Angeles, too bad. They don’t open a Los Angeles branch to accommodate your whims.”
“You have to quit your current job and try and find a new job in L.A.”
No NBA player was fighting for the right to force their team to move to a city of their choosing. I don’t think Chris Paul has asked once for the league to move the Hornets to New York. He just wanted the right to play in New York, which is definitely his choice when he becomes a free agent. In other words, while not quitting his current job, he’d let his contract expire, become unemployed and try to find a new employer in the city of his choosing. In other words, he’d be doing exactly what you said. He’d be quitting his job (allowing his contract to expire) and attempting to find a job in another city. He just gave his employer a year’s notice that he wouldn’t be back and gave them a chance to trade him for some value.
People have the right to move to another city and work for another company. Where your analogy fails is that you’re comparing a league with a finite number of teams in a finite number of cities to the general labor market. For instance, film director can live anywhere he wants. But if he wants to actually work, he’s probably going to probably be limited to working in either New York, L.A., or Vancouver. This is the same case as NBA players where you can only work where the league has franchises.
“If you are employed by the NBA and the NBA says they need you at the Milwaukee office or the New Orleans office then you work at that office. Don’t like it? Then don’t work for the NBA.”
“That is the actual reality of adult freedom that most of us operate under.”
Why are you even comparing the real world for most people to playing in the NBA? The reality is that once you graduate from high school or college, you can choose what city you’d like to live in and what employer you’d like to work for (excluding the military). In the NBA, when you are drafted, you have NO choice in where you play. If you want to play in the league, your have to play for the team and the city that chooses you. Your only other option is play in another league or overseas. Why aren’t you saying anything about how the adult freedom that most of us operate under allows us to choose where and who to work for but doesn’t afford an NBA player the same choice? Yes, they have the choice to play in another league. But that’s like saying you can use your Computer Science degree to either work for Microsoft or else you have to work in another country. I don’t think many people would accept those terms.
You make it sound like an NBA player wanting to be able to choose what city and team to player for AFTER his contract expires is a bad thing. Let’s be clear. These players aren’t demanding trades. They’re telling their current team that they won’t re-sign and won’t sign extensions if traded to certain teams, which is their right after becoming free agents. They have some teams they’d prefer to play for and are telling teams they won’t sign extensions unless they’re traded to those teams. And most teams are unwilling to trade for a guy who they can’t extend. They’re not forcing their way into another city anymore than Carmelo Anthony did. They’re just giving their teams a chance to trade them for some value and not get left empty-handed like Cleveland and Toronto did with Lebron James and Chris Bosh.
While I agree it’s not a human rights issue and the whole slavery thing was ridiculous, you’re almost as wrong and ridiculous in the other direction.
I think the way the NBA is framing this is what is the problem.
The Hornets are owned equally by all the owners of the other teams and thus they all have an equal say in any transaction. That means that each owner can lobby other owners to vote a certain way and thus there is a competitive negotiation that decides the outcome. David Stern needs to show that it was not his decision but a competitive negotiation amongst the team owners and the vote went against the three teams in the trade. As long as there was a competitive side to this veto and not a ‘in the best interest of the league’ situation then I think that is enough for people to be ok with it. But if they try to sell league balance etc. then that’s not going to fly because that means the league operates on curve – and that diminishes the game.
by MagicLA on Dec 8, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
LOL, this is sad:
Hornets general manager Dell Demps is "disconsolate" over the heavy-handed move from the commissioner’s office, a source told Y! Sports. Demps considered resigning his job on Thursday, league sources said, and had to be talked out of it
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Crap, i think he should in protest
That was a major bush-league move by the NBA.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
Wow
I mean just wow. I didn’t like the trade, but I definitely hate that the league interfering. Sure, it is a little funny to me that there are some seriously ticked off lakers fans, but I would be apocalyptic if the league had done this to the magic.
Seriously, I think all of the players might walk out over this in protest.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
This could mess up the CBA
At first the owners were furious because Paul was getting traded to a big market team. Now Stern just did the one thing that could turn the players against the NBA as a whole and it’s a mistake which makes the league look awful. The public will definitely land on the side of the players on this one. This could get ugly.
nahh, it'll blow over.
Especially if Stern turns around and lets it go through due to backlash.
Or once the season starts.
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by JeffShann3 on Dec 9, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As much as I hate the Lakers – the trade in which they got Gasol was BS, this was revolting, and it’s infuriating that they get so much top talent while small markets get screwed – I still don’t understand this veto. What on Earth is the point? Three teams decided this deal was in their best interest. What the Hell is New Orleans supposed to do now?
by Tim333 on Dec 9, 2011 2:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs

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