NBA Rumors: Los Angeles Lakers Reportedly Could Soon Propose Andrew Bynum-for-Dwight Howard Trade with Orlando Magic
by Evan Dunlap on Dec 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST
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PrintThe worst-kept secret in basketball--that the Los Angeles Lakers covet Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard, and are willing to offer Andrew Bynum for him--could soon be made official. The Lakers, having acquired Chris Paul from the New Orleans Hornets earlier Thursday, are not content to fill just one position with its best player; one agent Chris Tomasson spoke to, he says, "really does believe that a package involving Andrew Bynum for Dwight Howard is coming." What that means isn't exactly clear, as the term "package" is ambiguous in context. It could mean that's what the Lakers will offer, or it could mean that's the trade that could conceivably happen.
When word began to spread about the Lakers' increasingly serious talks with the Hornets for Chris Paul--with the Houston Rockets facilitating the trade as the third team--it became clear L.A. would not have to part with Bynum, the 24-year-old center regarded as one of the league's better prospects in the pivot. That, in turn, created speculation that L.A. was "saving" Bynum to offer to Orlando for Howard.
Don't expect the Magic to bite on such an offer, at least not yet; Ken Berger of CBS Sports quotes a source as saying Otis Smith, the Magic's President of Basketball Operations, is "nowhere near considering trade offers yet." That statement does not rule out the possibility of him listening to offers for Howard in the future. My sense is that L.A., if it truly wants Howard this season, will keep Bynum on the table.
The Lakers reportedly contacted the Magic regarding Howard a few days ago, a conversation Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times termed "unproductive." All indications are the Magic intend to start the season with Howard on their roster.
Paul heads to the Lakers as part of a three-team trade between L.A., the Rockets, and Hornets. Though details are still sketchy, it appears as though Pau Gasol is headed to Houston, while New Orleans will receive Lamar Odom, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic, and Luis Scola. Draft picks may also change hands in the deal.
The Lakers' acquisition of Paul without giving up Bynum has more than one bearing on Howard's future in Orlando, however. In addition to keeping its best trade chip, Los Angeles has, in this trade, obtained a friend of Howard's who had reportedly contacted him in recent days to express an interest in teaming up. Could the opportunity to play alongside Paul and Kobe Bryant, of whom he's fond, in the Los Angeles market be too much for Howard to turn down?
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No, Otis No!
Please God no.
Even Nancy Reagan would say to just say no.
lmao
Finally, Gilbert Arenas can become the player he was meant to be!
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well, as I see it, if he demanded a trade, the Magic should better just test him and let him walk, he won’t get to LA. Yes, the Magic will suck, but their chances of becoming a better team in the future will be bigger if they became a lottery team, rather than having a crippled bynum…
by Serra on Dec 8, 2011 7:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO US???
/David after dentist
Finally, Gilbert Arenas can become the player he was meant to be!
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 8, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Is this going to be forever?
That’s the part I feel like. That and when he sits up in his seat and yells.
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by JeffShann3 on Dec 9, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Howard goes to the Lakers, how can you be a fan of the NBA (without rooting for the Lakers)?
As if the 2006 WCF didn’t convince you, the NBA owned Hornets dealing a mid-20s superstar to LA for giant contacts in their 30s should help seal the deal. Obviously the massive TV money in the LA market really just makes this the Lakers Basketball Association. Everyone else is playing to be the Washington Generals more often than not.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
Don't forget the trade where they got Gasol for Kwame Brown and a bag of chips.
Howard to LAL would be the final straw, I wont watch an NBA game again.
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by North of the South on Dec 8, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate when fans say "I won't watch if..."
However, I certainly find myself feeling that way – and it sucks.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
Well, there's also the fact that ESPN Latinamerica will give zero coverage to a Magic team that has no superstars.
For better or worse the Magic always had a superstar during the past 20 years (except during the “Heart and Hustle” year. No superstar = No ESPN here. I don’t think Arenas or Bynum (if that trade happens) count for them.
Another option would be rooting for any team except the Heat and the Lakers… but who would be able to stop them?
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by North of the South on Dec 8, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
This is enough for me
this is collusion to its fullest. Paul goes to the Lakers while each other team gets destroyed in the value department. WTH is Houston thinking. Yes, you got Gasol with absolutely nobody else worth a damn around him. So dumb
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Trading for Bynum would be dumb and make the Magic a mediocre team
Being a mediocre team isn’t what Orlando needs or wants. IMO they would be better off letting Dwight walk and rebuild with high draft picks after a few crappy seasons. Bynum is injury proned weak sauce that I pray never suits up in a Magic jersey.
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If worse comes to worse we need to trade Dwight to a team that knows he wont re-sign but still want the cap space
I’m looking at Utah’s Al Jefferson
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Here's what it comes down to
Once this CP3 trade goes through, will LA have the ability to absorb Hedo or Gilbert’s contract in a potential Dwight Howard deal. I don’t see it happening. The lakers don’t have that second player of value to give to Orlando to make the salaries match.
In a semi-related topic: Why the heck didn’t New Orleans insist on dealing Ariza’s contract to either Houston or LA? To me that seems like a big mistake.
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houston is on drugs
scola isn’t that much worse than gasol, and i believe he’s younger…then they also give up a great SG in martin?? that makes no sense… nba is riggged
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 8, 2011 7:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
hes not much younger and several inches shorter plus his D and rebounding aren't as good
add that to the star power Gasol brings in comparison you take Gasol and Yao comes out of retirement and then BAM!!!!
30 wins...
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Otis Smith needs to wait and see.
I think there’s a good chance that, despite this acquisition, LA will still struggle. Kobe hasn’t been himself and is another year older. Who knows how durable he’ll be.
If Bryant ends up hurt for any amount of time, the Lakers will arguably be no better than the Hornets were last season, if not considerably worse. Losing Gasol and Odom is going to hurt them a lot.
The Lakers just lost Shannon Brown, too.
Ron Artest is now Metta World Peace. Who knows what kind of productivity they’ll get out of him.
And who knows what kind of productivity the Lakers will get out of any of their players with Mike Brown at the helm.
Meanwhile, the Knicks are very close to signing Paul’s good friend, Tyson Chandler. And, all along, Paul has wanted to go to the Knicks. If the Lakers struggle at all, and Otis Smith stands fast, Paul could end up a rental for the Lakers and leave them in a serious bind after this season.
The possibility is there for this deal to backfire miserably on the Lakers. But it will require Otis Smith to stand his ground, and try to make things work with Howard.
Or, maybe Paul takes a closer look at the Magic after this season. There’s really no telling what we’ll look like next summer, either.
And let’s not forget Deron Williams.
If there is any way for the Magic to amnesty/trade their way to the cap space to sign Paul or Williams, or simply to acquire some good young talent to support Howard and get the Magic firing on all cylinders again, that has to be priority one.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
can the lakers
sign any big time FA’s this season? or are they over the cap still
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 8, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
My understanding is they have a fat trade exception ($11mil) but that'd mean they'd have to trade again to use it.
Not sure about their cap situation, but there are no trades they can make or FAs they can acquire to fill the holes left by Gasol and Odom.
If you remember, back in the 08/09 season, Kobe was close to forcing a trade because the Lakers were barely a playoff team. And they had Odom. And Kobe was 3 years younger.
I’m very curious to see how Paul and Bryant mesh in the back court, particularly with first year coach Mike Brown and almost zero training camp. Or how they make up for having less depth in the middle than the Miami Heat.
And let’s not forget the injury bug likes to bite Chris Paul, and Andrew Bynum.
This is just wishful thinking, but, the probabilities that this could blow up in the Lake Show’s face are not as low as you might think.
It doesnt matter if Paul is interested in us.. That douche Otis needs to find a way to make room for us to sign him
He didnt position us for the LeBron/Bosh/Wade sweepstakes and he wont do it for Paul
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
The reported Houston/LA/NOLA trade doesn't work as reported. At least not on trade machine.
Some other pieces have to be involved. NOLA needs to send out at least $10 million more. Okafor and Ariza must be involved somehow. If Okafor goes to Houston then the trade makes a little sense from the Houston perspective. Gasol/Okafor tandem locked in for 3 years is pretty good. But Gasol alone that makes no sense.
trade dwight to chicago.
at least we can see our center compete for a ring or win one there. and we receive something back, maybe the best offer out there..
by bimbim3000 on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If I had to see Dwight on another team I'd prefer to see him on the Clippers with a Griffin and Gordon
I will enjoy seeing the lakers get destroyed year after year. Thus losing their city
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'd prefer GSW since this former Orlando lives in the bay area now.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
I oppose trading Dwight Howard,
But if we absolutely absolutely have to trade him, the Oklahoma Thunder would probably be our best choice. They have multiple superstars, and could actually provide us7 for the best value in the league. Chicago would probably be second, but possibly only with two of the following three involved (from most to least likely to be offered): Derrick Rose, Carlos Boozer, and Luol Deng.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The reported Houston/LA/NOLA trade doesn't work as reported. At least not on trade machine.
Some other pieces have to be involved. NOLA needs to send out at least $10 million more. Okafor or Ariza must be involved somehow. If Okafor goes to Houston then the trade makes a little sense from the Houston perspective. Gasol/Okafor tandem locked in for 3 years is pretty good. But Gasol alone that makes no sense.
Well of course the lakers would propose it
But I’m sure Otis is smart enough not to give away the best center in the league for Mr. Injured reserve. He would be run out of town! If Howard has to be dealt away, He needs to talk to Denvers GM on how to get a good return.
"While the Lakers now have their next superstar, they are, at this very moment, not a better team."
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But, thrust remains, the CP3 to Lakers deal may be dead.
Yes!!
but under what basis was the the trade rejected? if its as reported because their is no ownership in place then that affects the Magic negatively as far as us trying to trade for him right now or at least until NOLA ownership is resolved. But next summer we are still in the hunt.
Not sure if CP3 nontrade is good...
This still lets LA offer Bynum & Odom. It’s a lousy deal but 75% more likely one that Otis would accept.
I was actually warming up to it, as I'm not convinced CP3 to a Bynum/Odom-less Lakers is an improvement for them.
Paul could’ve seriously screwed the Lakers by signing with the Knicks after this season.
Hiya everyone
I’m new here. Nets fan, so you probably know what i’m here about. Probably also a giveaway since i’m on a Dwight thread. Here’s my question: If we gave you Lopez, draft picks and took Hedo’s contract, is that enough? I have to think it is. Remember, him and D-Will talk all the time, and they want to play together. Don’t know if you saw D-Will’s comments in the NY media. I think that deal is better than Bynum and Odom. Don’t believe our GM when he says he’s not talking to Otis. He’s not stupid. He knows he needs to keep D-Will, and getting Dwight would do it + we have the best package.
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Or
how about the magic make moves to sign away Deron this summer.
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by AB's triple double on Dec 8, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would say no.
Probably not enough. But, I would rather see Dwight in NJ than LA.
Of course, I’d rather see Dwight in the former Soviet Russia than LA…
That also makes 2 teams in the East that will be set up for domination
If Dwight gets traded he is probably going to the West
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 8, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Wow . . . I'm not sure if I ever saw the words "Billy King" and "not stupid" together before
First for everything I guess. Speaking of which, how about Jameer Nelson, Brandon Bass and 2 2nd round picks for Deron Williams? Sounds reasonable to me.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
No
Why should we lose out again? We lost out on Bron and Melo.
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huh?
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Seeing as we both feel entitled that our own respective favorite teams should win out . . .
Wait, I’m bored.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
At least without Deron Williams, if not even with,
The Nets cannot compensate us for both Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu. They are easily two of our three best players-maybe best two; they were vital in our 2009 run for the NBA Finals.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 11:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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