NBA Rumors: Chris Paul to Los Angeles Lakers Trade in Works Affects Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic
by Evan Dunlap on Dec 8, 2011 3:50 PM EST
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PrintMultiple outlets, including Sports Illustrated, are reporting the Los Angeles Lakers, Houston Rockets, and New Orleans Hornets are discussing a three-team trade wherein Hornets point guard Chris Paul would go to Los Angeles; with Lakers big man Pau Gasol heading to Houston; and Rockets power forward Luis Scola and shooting guard Kevin Martin joining the Hornets. Such a trade would bolster the Lakers' championship hopes, obviously, but would also not hurt their chances of acquiring Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard.
The Magic may trade Howard, who can become a free agent in 2012, if he makes it clear to them he does not intend to return. Though all 29 of the league's other teams would love to have Howard in their employ, the Lakers could still offer Orlando center Andrew Bynum even after acquiring Paul, if they are indeed able to make that trade happen. Chris Mannix of SI reports the Lakers would offer Bynum to the Magic for Howard "and whatever bad contract ORL wants to dump." One suspects that bad contract could be that of Gilbert Arenas or Hedo Turkoglu.
Though the Magic have reportedly rebuffed all trade inquiries about Howard--including at least one the Lakers made--President of Basketball Operations Otis Smith implicitly made clear in a Wednesday news conference he will trade his franchise player if that's the best move for the organization to make.
Bynum is one of the top prospects Orlando could hope to land in a trade for Howard, with the other notable being Brook Lopez of the New Jersey Nets. Just 24 years old, Bynum owns career averages of 10.5 points, 7.1 rebounds, and 1.5 blocked shots. Most recently, he tallied 11.3 points, 9.4 rebounds, and two blocks per game for L.A. while converting 57.4 percent of his shot attempts.
There may not be reason for Magic fans to panic about losing Howard to the Lakers just yet, however, despite his closeness with Paul, with whom he's discussed teaming up recently. Howard's strong preference is to spend the rest of his career with Orlando provided it can surround him with quality teammates, and soon, according to one report of what Howard discussed with Smith during a recent face-to-face meeting.
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It's the end as we know it.
The always injured Bynum will contribute 9 points a game when he can stay on the court. PASS.
Need to go the Lopez route, hope for one more piece (Marshon Brooks?) and two first rounders. Signed, sealed, deliever. He’s not going to stay. AVOID BYNUM!
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And,
I think Bynum got ejected for a dirty hit, in the Lakers’ Game 4 loss to the Mavericks.
Lack of impulse control in an important game, and getting injured so often at a young age. Even if Dwight Howard decides to leave us, we can and should do better than giving Dwight Howard and possibly Hedo Turkoglu for this over-rated reprobate.
This is just another proposal to take from a ‘have-not’ and give to the second most spoiled sports fanbase in America.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is a nightmare.
It’s only gonna get worse.
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I'd rather let Howard walk than make that trade
If we have to trade him surely we can do better than Bynum. I realize we won’t get equal value, but that isn’t even close.
Yugly.
by aakks on Dec 8, 2011 4:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't we rather get a deal done with the Clips?
Since they’d lose out on getting CP3 they would probably give us better assets than the Nets with better picks to rebuild in the draft. I understand we wouldn’t get a center in return but couldn’t we make up for that elsewhere?
I’m not optimistic about Bynum. Who knows how he’d react to SVG. Plus I feel you have to stay away from injury prone players like the plague. I can almost guarantee that he would be another Grant Hill.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
Bynum may be the best value we could get
But if we don’t trade him, Dwight’s options are severely limited and he would have to take a huge pay cut to go to a desirable team. I would honestly play chicken and if he decides to walk the Magic get straight to tanking for picks as opposed to being the 7th seed for the foreseeable future.
In the new NBA, if you aren’t a “big market” team, you can only build by drafting studs and making your mark before their rookie contract is up. There is no value in being “pretty good.” You will never be better than that.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
I'd rather go for Lopez and 2 picks and Turk, but I hated that trade too
I really, really don’t want Bynum here. At all.
Yugly.
I'm with aakks on this one
I’m not thrilled about either offer, but if I had to choose i’d much rather take the Nets offer than the Lakers.
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have you seen the picks?
One is protected. The other would suck because you know Williams and Howard on the same team might work. Let Howard walk. Get the cap space. Suck. Start from there.
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by Mateo9399 on Dec 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, they're terrible
I said I hated that trade too but I’d take it over Bynum. I’d keep Dwight for a year and let him walk before I’d make either of those trades.
Yugly.
It's not really about getting Bynum, as it is giving Dwight to the Lakers.
At least that’s how I feel. Let him walk so he can’t be a laker.
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by 808duck on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Currently, I am most concerned with keeping Dwight
If that means our only option is getting Ellis from GS, so be it. Deal with the fallout later. Without Dwight, nothing else matters anyway. (Unfortunately, this is a bad scenario, but its better than the others)
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I knew the Lakers would find a way to get both of them.
Remember that lockout, and Stern’s supposed interest in making the league more competitive?
Yeah. All of that was for nothing.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 8, 2011 4:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If CP3 and Dwight end up on the Lakers, I'm going to have a real hard time watching the NBA
At the rate we’re going they should just contract the league to 8 teams and let them take turns winning championships.
by ggrant on Dec 8, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed
Of course, I don’t think it was a surprise that all of the restrictions on sign and trade changes don’t start for 2 years. Gives teams like the Lakers enough time to grab people like CP3 or Howard and then make it hard for those guys to do the same thing later.
That said, I still like the Magic’s chances of keeping Howard long term even still.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
If Howard is a man of his word (remains to be seen) then I do too.
But if we end up with Lakers/Heat finals for the forseeable future, I’ll probably shed more than a few tears over it.
Good point!
My question is what is the point of maximizing the strength of the NBA’s few largest markets-by giving them everybody else’s all-stars-if it means losing the rest of country?
They are so short-sighted. The proposed strategy may help the league short-term, but long-term actually alienates much of the NBA fanbase, eventually costing the league more than having fair competition. The idea of effectively reserving the Larry O’Brien Trophy for a few cities is a gimmick that will devastate the NBA.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:11 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
because only the big markets watch the NBA.
Some mid markets watch it, but by and large NBA is an urban sport. Tv sets don’t care when San Antonio is good, they do when Lakers and big name teams are. Just the reality.
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The Spurs weren't significantly popular in Texas?
I agree the NBA is largely urban, but I don’t think everybody outside the elite few markets should be taken for granted. I think the lack of parity might be a factor in the league being ‘urban’ and relatively front-runner based. If even a top ten media market like Atlanta is not allowed to compete for the title, then what’s the point? Is it really necessary for the Lakers to be an elite title contender every year while the Southeast-outside of Miami-struggles to even keep an all-star.
Watching the Lakers and Celtics collect titles like stamps, is actually getting boring.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 7:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation
The league promotes the same team and players over and over – even when there are more deserving teams – until such time as the players on the more deserving team go to the bigger market to get the spotlight for a change.
The big markets have the media, and the guys who cover the sport are homers just like everyone else. So, big market stuff means more and the players are reported to be better, leading to the never ending cycle. For example, if Howard moves to a big market I assure you that the endless complaints about all of the supposed weaknesses in Dwight’s game will disappear just as fast as Shaq’s did.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
I know what you mean. Just saying how it is. Atlanta would be better if they had a legit coach. Orlando get free agents. Teams you are talking about are Indiana and such. But you are never gonna watch those teams anyways, if you are casual. Unless they have a rivalry with a big market, a la Indiana vs Knicks, casual fans won’t care. And casual fans are what matter. Us b ball junkies will watch no matter what we say.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Except that...
The Knicks were terrible for YEARS, but could count on always being a lead story if they ever wanted to get a free agent. Press is always propping them up as “on the verge” no matter what happens. Meanwhile, Orlando doesn’t get notice until after it loses in the Finals. Then they get some edge coverage until they have a bad year. Now, it’s a terrible place that can’t keep a player.
Yes, the press is just being homers for the local teams and pretending they aren’t, but it has a pretty huge sway on perception and visibility to the average fan.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
A 7 footer with bad knees
Stay far away from Bynum. He’ll be out of the league by 27. Bad knees and 7 feet = short nba career. Lopez is better option if magic must trade.
Otis is a straight up bum.
Good thing we built this huge new arena with absolutely no one to play in it going into 2012-2013. I cant even put a number on how many empty seats there will be every single game
Bynum has been in the league one year less than Howard.
And basically has Okafor’s stat line.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 8, 2011 4:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
on the Lakers...
meaning he has Kobe chucking, Gasol getting his and Odom doing his thing…..and puts up those numbers
by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Martin?
I’d be curious if the Magic would be willing to offer a paired down version of the fan-loved “hail mary” CP3 offer to NO in order to get Kevin Martin in pinstripes. He’s no CP3, true, but he’d be a huge help with his shot creation and ability to get to the FT line.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 8, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions
Me too.
But he was always off-limits via trade. I’m not sure why HOU would trade away him, Scola, and picks for Pau…but if they did it means he’s already moving, and maybe NO wouldn’t be so reluctant to move him as HOU was over the years.
Maybe a combo of Nelson and/or someone else, plus a draft pick would get him out of NO? Thoughts?
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 8, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
He's a stud. But I don't get the impression Otis is trying to make deals for anyone right now.
CP3, but those talks didn’t pan out. Crawford didn’t pan out. We’re without assets, and in a precarious situation with Howard. Best thing to do seems to be just staying put, addressing needs once the season is under way.
without assets?
Are Jameer Nelson, Hedo Turkoglu,
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
sorry, I accidentally submitted before I wanted to
Are Jameer Nelson and Hedo Turkoglu not valuable players? I thought they contributed well to our success.
Some of the supporting players aren’t bad either. The biggest issue should probably be the size of their contracts.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hedo is definitely not an asset.
Recheck the salary on his contract.
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Just because he gets paid a lot,
It doesn’t mean his contribution is worthless.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:29 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, he'd have value, if a salary cap didn't exist.
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Next year,
He might be our best player.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:45 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That doesn't mean he has value.
That means the rest of the team lacks value.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 8, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Him potentially being our best player
Was not an argument for his trade “value.” It was a separate statement.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 10:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, he'd be awesome in Orlando.
But I don’t see that happening. I’m under the impression that nobody wants what we have that isn’t Dwight Howard. And I don’t blame them honestly.
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Ryan Anderson is an asset.
But he’s of more value to us than anyone else, as far as I can tell.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 8, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right.
We are the team with the greatest use of a stretch-4. But I think it’s understood around the league that Ryan is talented and a useful player. He’s just not enough to pull in Kevin Martin or CP3 or D-Will or anybody like that.
Basically if we’d had a better showing in the playoffs last year I could see other teams being interested in what we have. But we looked terrible in that series agains the Hawks and that doesn’t help when trying to deal with other teams.
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by cgsimone on Dec 8, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not alone.
But what about a sign&trade with J-Rich + Bass/Anderson? Or how about he slides to PG and it becomes Nelson + Bass/Anderson? Throw in a second round pick or something to sweeten the pot.
It’d be more solid players for NO to support the draft picks they’d be getting. Less holes to fill.
I dunno. I still don’t know why HOU would be willing to trade away KMart, Scola, and multiple Draft Picks just to get Pau. He’s really good an all…but that seems like a weak deal for them, especially since they’ve been so reluctant to move KMart for anyone the past few years.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 8, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Only way I can forgive Otis is if
he can aquire Darron Williams somehow.
Bynum’s production doesn’t concern me as much as his attitude does.
The guy’s only coach has been PHIL JACKSON. Going from the greatest NBA coach to ever live to the screaming, animated version of Ron Jeremy is a recipe for disaster. While Bynum was in LA, he played in what was almost a Feudal system with veterans Kobe, Pau, Meta World Peace, and Odom. He’s immature as seen in the waning minutes of game 4 of the WCF. You’re telling me Bynum is the guy who is going to step into a leadership role and be the foundation for rebuilding the Magic franchise? I don’t see it.
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 8, 2011 4:58 PM EST reply actions
Say it aint so Joe
Would hate for the Lakers to get CP3 even though we don’t have a chance
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by UCLA_Alum on Dec 8, 2011 4:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Lakers reportedly backed off of deal for CP3
https://twitter.com/christomasson/status/144891634646130688
“Source says Hornets thought they were very close to a deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers but then Lakers backed off. To be continued.”
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
This whole thing makes no sense.
Houston gives away KMart, Scola, and multiple picks for Pau…who’d have basically no support and HOU with no picks to use to build around him.
And now the Lakers “back off” a deal that would basically be a straight up Pau-for-CP3 swap?
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe New Orleans was trying to force Okafor onto them as well?
Who knows.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
there would be young prospects included I believe, like Budinger and Patrick Patterson to NO
by KobeBryantSlamDunkGiant on Dec 8, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Laker fan reading comprehension fail.
Makes lots of sense for LAL. Not so much for Houston….that was the issue.
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Uh Kyle Lowry is on the verge of blowing up.
Plus Patrick Patterson, Budinger, Courtney Lee, and they drafted one of the twins from Kansas. With Pau they would be legit.
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Lakers = Nets < Bulls
Neither Lopez nor Bynum.
Howard & Turk for: Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson, Luol Deng, Omer Asik, and Kyle Korver
Then you trade Deng and Nelson to teams looking for veterans in exchange for youth / picks and build through the draft / free agency.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 8, 2011 5:33 PM EST reply actions
Lakers getting CP3 for Gasol and Odom
So, I guess New Orleans wasn’t interested in youth and picks after all, eh?
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
Or apparently cap room,
For that matter.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
There is apparently talk of flipping Gasol to Houston for the previous mentioned bits
But still, I can’t believe NOH caved so quickly to help the Lakers.
I guess Otis is too busy trying to call everyone from the 2005 All Star roster that didn’t play last year to see if they might be available. I’ll bet we could get Iverson if we gave up some picks, Jameer, and Ryno. :/
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
This is still a 3 way deal, with Houston involved.
Martin/Scola still reported to be heading to the Hornets, and Gasol to the Rockets.
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3 people listed
Kevin Martin, Luis Scola and Goran Dragic apparently.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
So say you're the Hornets, and you were offfered these two packages:
Lamar Odom, Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, and Goran Dragic
OR
Jameer Nelson, Brandon Bass, and J.J. Redick (and, heck, even Ryan Anderson)
Which package would you rather have?
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
Well, I know which one I'd want them to take, but realistically, Kevin Martin is an awesome player.
I’d imagine he was the key to the Hornets doing this deal.
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Exactly (thanks 808duck)
Magic never had a realistic shot.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer.
It's ridiculous,
How easily the Hornets gave in to acting like the Lakers’ farm team. First Kobe, now apparently Chris Paul.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 6:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Remember...
The Hornets are owned by the NBA.
The Lakers are key to the NBA’s bottom line.
You do the math.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
Our only hope is to get DWill
options
1) pray gilbert opts out, amnesty turkoglu this summer, throw the bank at DWill
2) amnesty gilbert, package turkoglu with bass/anderson/nelson whoever, throw the bank at DWill
More for the conspiracy theories
So, New Orleans, a team owned by the NBA, doesn’t get the youth, picks and cap space they want, but the Lakers get the most coveted piece moving in the NBA.
Yeah, didn’t see that one coming.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
This whole thing reeks of collusion in the worst way
The Clippers, and Warriors for that matter, deals made much for sense for New Orleans. Now it’s just like they are offering up Paul as Halloween candy.
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by Sir Lawrence J on Dec 8, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m watching Espn. They just confirmed that Paul to Lakers is a done deal.
by Justin85 on Dec 8, 2011 6:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They didn’t mention the Houston side of the deal, but stated that Odom’s going to The Hornets, and Gasol’s going to Houston.
by Justin85 on Dec 8, 2011 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep. OFFICIAL: Chris Paul traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.
There’s still a lot to consider. NY Knicks could amnesty Billups and sign Tyson Chandler, likely looking to trade Amare Stoudemire. In this case, CP3 is by no means a lock to sign a new contract in LA. He very well could end up a rental there.
Not to mention Orlando might be able to free up enough space via trades/amnesty to sign both Howard and Paul after this season.
Nobody knows how things are going to play out in Los Angeles with Mike Brown, CP3 and Kobe, who isn’t getting any younger. Odom and Pau are gone, Artest/World Peace is a wild card.
Tough to say what the situation in Los Angeles will be at the end of the season. I hope Otis Smith doesn’t jump the gun on a trade.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 8, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dell Demps is a tool, in the truest form of the word.
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yeah, he's not gonna want to travel to away games for awhile
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At least they got players and picks.
What about Houston? I really don’t understand their thought process in this at all.
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I'm with you on Houston, it makes no sense at all.
My previous statement is referring to the Hornets being owned by the league. Demps is just a pawn in loading up the Lakers.
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Why would the Magic ever do that trade
it makes no sense. Without Dwight, this team will not be contending whomever they pick up. If Chris Paul wants to play with Dwight, let him come here. If not, let’s get someone else around Dwight from his list and keep him in blue. Amnesty here and an Arenas there, we might be able to right this ship with a little patience and a sane Otis.
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by Eric9321 on Dec 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Getting Bynum doesn't make this team better, it makes it mediocre
Being a mediocre team isn’t what Orlando needs or wants. IMO they would be better off letting Dwight walk and rebuild with high draft picks after a few crappy seasons. Bynum is injury proned weak sauce that I pray never suits up in a Magic jersey.
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by ItaliaNole on Dec 8, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Otis
I know Otis is a lousy GM and I wouldn’t be surprised in the least for him to make a boneheaded move at this point, but he can’t be this dumb.
I mean, Bynum & Odom was a “bad” deal for Dwight. But, just Bynum? Or, just Bynum and they absorb 1 contract? Seriously.
That would be beyond moronic. Even for Otis. We can’t seriously be considering this? How many people would really want this over 1 more full year of Dwight and risking he walks? I can’t even believe I’m typing this wondering if such a deal could happen.
Correct.
That deal would basically be the worst thing that ever happened to Orlando. I’m including the Shaq walk because at least we still had some players when he left.
A deal for Andrew Bynum straight up and a contract dump is a far cry from what we were hoping to get (picks, decent player or two). And I know that a lot of people will say that it’s “better than nothing” but I don’t know if I believe that in my heart of hearts as a Magic fan. I still remember the days watching the Shaq Lakers and I never enjoyed it. I can’t seperate my feelings as a Magic fan from my feelings as an overall basketball fan. That’s why the thought of the two super teams in the league being the Heat (our in-state rivals) and the Lakers (caused me so much heartache in the past) gives me ulcers.
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by cgsimone on Dec 8, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The reported trade doesn't work as its being reported
there has to be a lot more involved. NOLA needs to trade away at least $10 m more. Okafor or Ariza must be involved somehow.
If the Hornets could unload Okafor that would be big for them.
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Odom to NOH for TPE, keeps NOH under the cap.
Then the 3 team trade should work with the remaining salaries.
Amirite?
If so, they not only give LAL CP3, they give them lots of room to get other pieces with the TPE. grrr
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Of course,
Just when we think the Lakers are spoiled enough.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Looks like Okafor is headed to LA
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wait Larry Coon agrees says more needs to be involved
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One more note: NO can’t send out just CP3 ($16.4M) and get back Odom, Scola, Dragic & Martin ($31.1M). They have to send more out.
11 minutes ago
After all of this, watch the media report that the "reported offer" be
Bynum and Okafor for Dwight and Hedo. That makes me want to puke.
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Disgusting!
Dwight Howard is better than Bynum, and Turkoglu is better than Okafor. Where did you find this rumor.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
wow...i feel sorry for u guys.....
too bad we r gonna face the same fate once D-will leaves us….things r not going well in free agency
Dwight or bust....
Superbowl or bust...
Oh boy
Now ESPN folks are saying the trade may be in jeopardy or dead…
Is that good or bad for us? I can’t really tell anymore.
If it means CP3 is on the market, it is definitely good for the Magic.
It also makes it clearer what NOH is trying to do and could get other teams talking.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
It helps,
If we can still get Chris Paul, and it is vital to keep him away from the selfish Lakers.
by Green Bull on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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