Orlando Magic 104, Miami Heat 100
The Orlando Magic rallied from a 23-point first-half deficit to defeat the Miami Heat on Wednesday night, 104-100, to finish their preseason with a 1-1 record. New acquisition Glen Davis, playing his first Magic home game, energized his team and the crowd with a brilliant third quarter, scoring 13 points on 6-of-6 shooting. Heat forward LeBron James led all scorers with 27 points, while Dwyane Wade added 21.
The Magic's night got off to an inauspicious start, as they spotted Miami a 12-0 lead before scoring their first bucket. Orlando couldn't move the ball effectively against the Heat's defense during its dismal first half. They were even more inept at the other end, failing to adequately contain the James/Wade duo on their drives to the basket. To be fair, almost every team struggles to contain those two All-Stars, but very few teams yield 40 free throws in a single half, as Orlando did, regardless of the opponent.
But the game changed after halftime as the Magic found their proverbial mojo. Jameer Nelson, who finished with a solid 14 points and 10 assists for Orlando, repeatedly blew past counterpart Mario Chalmers and got into the teeth of Miami's defense, sending the Heat scrambling to recover; his aggressive play, coupled with Davis' acrobatic finishes around the rim, fueled the Magic's comeback effort. Nelson made on-target passes to the right teammates, and exploited the Heat's focus on center Dwight Howard by feeding Davis when Davis' man left to double Howard.
The defense picked up as well, which one might have been able to foresee despite Miami's parade to the foul line in the first half. The Heat made only two baskets in the second period, but hung 29 points on the board because Orlando couldn't keep its hands to itself. But when the Magic addressed that critical error, Miami struggled to generate offense consistently.
Davis and Nelson weren't Orlando's only pleasant surprises; veteran utility player Larry Hughes tallied four points, two assists, and two steals in his 10-minute debut for the Magic. With Nelson and normal backup Chris Duhon out of the game, coach Stan Van Gundy called upon the 6-foot-7 Hughes to run Orlando's offense, which he did well. Hughes' versatility enabled Van Gundy to play two shooting guards--J.J. Redick and rookie DeAndre Liggins--without killing his team's ball movement.
Liggins, though not as strong defensively as initially advertised, finished with four assists. Though known as a specialist in the Tony Allen mold, Liggins showed a strong understanding of Van Gundy's offense. His play suggests he might not be as much of an offensive liability as initially feared; his drive-and-dish move to set up fellow rookie Justin Harper for a three-pointer was particularly impressive.
Though it's risky to draw too many conclusions from a preseason game, it's nonetheless encouraging to see Orlando rally to play with great energy and togetherness, particularly during Davis' flurry of offensive brilliance. It's also heartening to see Nelson determined to wreak havoc with dribble penetration.
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Congrats Magic fans. We will see you all again in the regular season. Most fun preseason game I’ve seen in a while. Don’t get too excited, though. Battier, Miller and Curry were all absent tonight. Anyways, fun preseason game. Can’t wait for the real stuff to start. Go Heat!
Battier, Miller and Curry?
You said that as if they were LeBron, Dwayne Wade, and Bosh. It’s kind of like me saying “but we didn’t have Hedo.” … Having said all of that, I really like that Norris kid. You guys might have something there.
by GradSchoolNole on Dec 21, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
lol on him talking bout curry like hes a somebody
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Norris is the real deal! Excited to see what he can do. Q-Rich/Bron Bron should be a fun rivalry this year.
I saw Curry before the game
…at Dunkin’ Donuts!!!
Battier and Miller are legit
Curry…well, he’s six fouls at least.
by eltharion_doa on Dec 22, 2011 4:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't understand the Eddy Curry signing at all
I mean, this is the same guy who’s played all of ten games in the last three seasons, and who’s notorious for being out of shape and overweight.
I think Miami would be better off sticking with Mickell Gladness as a backup center… he had 6 rebounds in 9 minutes against the Magic.
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 21, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Duhon looks like the odd man out at Point guard
Who knows if they actually cut him though. I like Liggins. At LEAST send him to the D-league with Orton, but don’t cut him. I think they both have potential. Really liked Harper as well. Larry Hughes shocked me though to be quite honest.
by GradSchoolNole on Dec 21, 2011 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Only Pruitt will get cut.
Everyone else will make the team. Larry Hughes(??) should be the backup point. He brought maturity, defense, and shot creation in his 10 minutes. Plus I love his size. Duhon should never see the court. Give me Liggins and his mistakes. At least he tries to play the game aggressively.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
by Mateo9399 on Dec 21, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not sure about that...
…generally the Magic like to have an open roster spot for flexibility. At least they have in the past. We’ll see if they stick to that mantra again…though I liked what I saw from Liggins/Harper/Hughes. I’m wondering whether they’re positives will translate into the regular season once teams get back to normal.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 21, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I would agree normally.
But in such a condensed season, there are games you literally have to eat and sit your starters. You just have to. We are talking 4 games in 5 nights, 5 games in 6 nights, 5 games in 7 nights. You literally have to eat and play the bench long minutes.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I don't disagree.
I just don’t know what the call will be in the Magic front office.
I’d like to see them keep everyone. There’s enough coverage from those deeper guys to play multiple positions that I don’t think they need the flexibility.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 21, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
mimimum (& non-guaranteed) contract guys can be waived to make room later
been done before.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 21, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Does everyone agree then that Duhon is worthless to our team?
I would rather have Liggins or Hughes on the court any day than see C.D. pass the ball to a Heat player again. For crying out loud Stan could play Hedo at the point if we got desperate.
My Analysis
after a sloppy first half, the Magic got their act together and played with the kind of heart and hustle that this team needs if it wants to do some damage in the postseason.
Nelson: I thought he was going to mail it in again tonite, but he came out strong in the 2nd half..finished with a WONDERFUL 14 and 10 game. He is a big part of this team against the Heat because of our advantage at PG and C. Hopefully he will continue to be aggressive, and set up his teammates. I have no worries about his shot, it will come back, as it did tonite in the 2nd half
J Rich: had an ok game..I wish he would drive the ball more though. I loved his allyoop tho, that was old school J rich
Q Rich: played great today…not sure what his role on this team is, but I like him as our reserve SF. Can defend well and hit the open 3
Anderson: This guy NEVER shows up against Miami or Boston,especially when he starts. I don’t get what his deal is when we play those teams. I’m guessing that we will rotate him and Big Baby as our starting PF depending on the matchup
Howard: played great as usual (first preseason game aside)..don’t need to really comment on Howard, we all know hes the franchise
Big Baby: WOOWWWW…what a great game both offensively and defensively. He can pass the ball MUCH better than Bass, and brings even more energy and intesnity, and he can rally the guys up to play better. LOVE this signing now. I hope chris brossuard analyzes the game tonite so he can finally mention big baby’s name in a positive manner.
Our rookies all played great!!! Harper and Liggins both look like they can contribute this year. Also, i LOVED Von Wafer’s aggressiveness, but I’m not sure how many mins he can play as JJ played great too and is a better overall player..but i’m glad we have more assets on this team..Orton suprised with his range, but hes still too raw to play this year in my opinion.
Finally…LARRY HUGHES NEEDS TO PLAY OVER POOHON every game..he did more in this game than Poohon has in his whole Magic career…reallly suprised me
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
J Rich shot 50% from the field.
As the second scoring option I am not sure what else you want.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
haha ur right
my apologies to j rich
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't Anderson score 22 points a few days ago?
I am made of bits of real panther so you know I'm good.
yes but if u read my analysis
i said against Boston and Miami he NEVER shows up..look at his stats
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahahah
im getting toasted…i forgot,,, my apologies again
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
o wait
i meant as a STARTER
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
whenever he starts against big teams
he chokes
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he seems more comfortblae coming off the bench
against those teams
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
An encouraging performance tonight
Nice game from a lot of guys, with Davis, Howard (except for his free throws), Nelson, and J-Rich standing out. Heck, even Larry Hughes played well in his 10 minutes of action.
Nelson has a terrific 17/3 assist/turnover ratio in the two preseason games. If he can keep up a similar ratio in the regular season, that will mean good news for the Magic.
The Magic outscored Miami 84-61 from the field to more than make up for the fact that they were outscored 39-20 from the FT line.
Also nice to see the rookies getting playing time and contributing.
The only major negatives were the Magic turnovers (24) and free throw shooting (20 of 36, 55.6%).
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 21, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions
After this game
I think I can deal with blowing it up if we lose Howard. I really enjoyed watching the young guys play. Hopefully, we can show enough talent and intensity to convince Howard to stay.
At least Dwight looked like he was having fun
Dancing on the bench at the end
BFIB
by tiquanunderwear on Dec 21, 2011 11:00 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Crowd reaction for Dwight?
Anything special tonight?
man we should have signed Reggie Evans
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions
anybody think we will use the MLE?
and if so, on who?
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 21, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
nuts...how come?
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe.
I think that it’s even money that Liggins gets cut and the Magic sign a Center. Or a trade gets made where some of the guards are packaged and the Magic sign a Center.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
yes
we need a backup C…Orton had nice shots, but I’d like a veteran dude…JOEL PRYZBILLA PLEASE if he comes back
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed on Pryzbilla
great backup C. But watching the game last night, I was thinking of the other Centers in the East. No one is stacked with height like the Lakers were. I think we can get by with Davis as the backup and Orton in case of emergency.
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I'm on board with that.
I know it would be nice to have a 7-ft reserve C that can simply jump in for 10 mins of physical play at the 5 spot while Howard rests…but I just can’t imagine that not having a true backup C is the reason the Magic will struggle. I mean, no one looks at the loss to ATL last year and says “That lack of a quality backup C, that’s totally what killed the Magic against the Hawks.”
Davis is an upgrade over Bass as a backup C, Orton is healthy finally, plus they have Clark and Anderson who can all put in a few minutes without costing the Magic the game.
The Magic basically traded Bass+Allen for Davis+Orton. I think it’s safe to say the Magic’s frontcourt is clearly better this year compared to last year.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
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by GradSchoolNole on Dec 22, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I really liked Hughes at the point..
we should ink him in and trade Duhon for a pack of gum. Overall great response after the half.
Hughes for vp of pg
I was at the game way back when he dropped 40 on us. Can’t wait to see how he matches up against some of the other PGs in the league Nelson has a time guarding. I know he is a little slower but Dwight can help hide that prob.
Duhon for restocking our soda machines for 3 years
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You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
There's actually a lot of potential on this team...
I know other people have already said it, but Hughes, Von Wafer, and the rookies ALL looked way better than Chris “I ruin every play I’m even remotely involved in” Duhon.
When Poohon was on the floor, the offence just died out!
I thought Hughes did a much better job of running the offence!
Q-Rich, I loved seeing him put the shoulder to LaCryBaby. Don’t take no stuff from LBJ
by bumper64 on Dec 22, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
LETS ALL ENJOY WATCHING SPORTSCENTER TONITE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONGTIME LOL
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
my bad evan
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Emotional Rollercoaster
I just know from here on out if we win Dwight has to stay and if we lose he is bolting. Don’t think I’m gonna like this year, but I must say i) I really like watching the young guys and Harper reminds me a little of Rashard; and ii) I hate saying this but I am starting to become a big baby fan. I really hope we gamble keep Dwight and go for the trophy this year. Playing Okc will be interesting and if we’ve been good we might get a great Christmas day gift. I Love watching ball on Christmas Almost as much as playing.
by OrlLove on Dec 22, 2011 12:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Though not to deter people from talking about Glen, of course

by HeyRiles on Dec 22, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahaha
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
where did you get this?
i wantt o post this on my facebook
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
cool thanks!
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
Can't see
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
weird it went away
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
it was a clip of big baby sliding over onto his stomach after he hit that basket over haslem...funny stuff
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
That was great!
Bron is such a little punk…I’m surprised nobody else mentioned the fact that (incidental first contact aside) LeBron totally leaned into Q first with his shoulder, then acted like he’d been shot when Q shoved him back. Of course who got Tee’d up? That pissed me off totally should have been a double technical. Then you saw LeBron with that little smirk on his face like the bully in middle school who totally starts the fight then gets the other kid in trouble.
by aterry560 on Dec 22, 2011 7:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
err, I think QRich started it by intentionally slowing down
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 22, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
that was defin. q
But LeBron is an drama queen and probably was pushing it. I liked that air ball a few plays later
by DaytonaJim00 on Dec 22, 2011 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think we're all raising the bar a bit too high on Larry Hughes
I mean the last time the Magic had a high-scoring guard who used to get paid a lot, he sucked sh-t. And our other PG is probably the league’s worse.
But it’s a decent performance for a guy who has a hate website dedicate to himself… or at least a “stop shooting” website lol.
I’d still hate to see what would happen if Dwight leaves. This means a lot less space for our three point shooters, requiring a lot more from our PGs and Hedo to create plays and not rely on Dwight getting double, triple teamed
Agreed on Hughes
That’s why it was a pleasant surprise to see him take just two shots in ten minutes, and make them both.
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 22, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
I was mainly impressed at how easily he was hitting the guy cutting to the basket
His frame gives him a advantage against opposing PG’s
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 22, 2011 3:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think everyone's bar is "better than Duhon"...which isn't high at all.
Though I agree it’s an over-reaction to clearing it. I liked what I saw from him, and I think he’d be a better backup than Duhon at the PG spot.
Fitting him into the lineup once Hedo comes back will be tricky, and SVG normally likes a short bench. We’ll see.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 22, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody noticed how Harper was?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
he looked good
kinda like a young rashard lewis…he looked nervous in the first half, but in the 2nd half, he shot with confidence and had a nice stroke
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks, did he play good D?
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
hmm
i didn’t pay too much attention to him on the defensive end..im going to watch the game again when it replays on NBA tv
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
I just remember 1 good defensive play that he had
Haslem had him pinned pretty deep in the post but he just stood straight up with arms out and forced a miss
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 22, 2011 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
This game was fun to watch.
Bulletpoints‼
- You are not going to convince me that I should want Bass on my team more than Davis. Davis showed more heart and intensity in this pre-season game than Bass has shown in his entire life.
- Larry Hughes.
- Harper looked a little small and a little lost. Both are expected when talking about a rookie who has had, what? Five practices and then is getting meaningful NBA minutes. He got pushed around under the boards a bit and definitely needs to put on weight since it seems Stan sees him as a 4.
- Jameer chooses to play at a level lower than he is capable of 90% of the time. And then sometimes he starts actually trying and you’re like, “why not all of the time, Jameer. WHY?!?”
- I think JJ is a better overall player than J-Rich at this point in their careers. And a more fierce competitor. (but give me one alley-oop dunk a game like the one J-Rich had last night and all bets are off)
- It was worth signing Nilla Wafer just so we have a player we can call Nilla Wafer. That dunk was the icing on the cake. Congratulations Nilla, you’ve already earned your contract.
- Q earned one month of me not saying anything bad about him for his shoulder block on LBJ.
- Ryan is as inconsistent as Hedo. Those are two of my favorite players, but, it scares me just a little having two hugely important players that you have no idea what you are going to get on any night.
- But seriously, Glen Davis was great tonight. I was watching him during and after the game and I was just thinking to myself, “Gawd, Dwight would love to play with that guy.” The play style, the personality, the mid-game planking. Glen Davis and Dwight Howard are one 5-year maximum pay contract extension away from being BFFs forever and ever.
- But even more seriously. Larry Hughes. His ball handling was sharp, his passing was crisp and led to points, his defense was excellent, he was moving well. Larry Hughes you win all of the backup PG minutes. I don’t mean to oversell one pre-season game performance. But. Larry Hughes for 6th Man of the Year, Comeback Player of the Year, Most likely to make Duhon retire of the Year. I love you Larry. Never change.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 22, 2011 2:43 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
nice analysis
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
i still think richardson is better than JJ though
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yes. But we all agree that JJ has the best hair which is the important thing.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 22, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHHAHHA
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know about the hair
I forgot who, but somebody on the board mentioned that JJ’s hair seem to be off this game. He might have lost some of that Redick mojo.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, it better be for Gasol & Bynum and 2 picks, and the Lakers better take Duhon & Turkoglu (I'll miss you, Hedo!!!)l.
I said that
it’s too spiky
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by TheGiantSquid on Dec 22, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
-_-
The spikiness is what gives JJ’s hair its power.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 22, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
it's too short! idk it just looks wrong
but whatever, everything looks wrong on him. His FACE looks wrong.
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by TheGiantSquid on Dec 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
J-Rich doesnt do anything significantly better than JJ
it was a waste of 6 million
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 22, 2011 3:57 AM EST up reply actions
i dont agree
more assets for our team…but j rich is a better offensive player than JJ in my opinion..and he has hit more big shots
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 22, 2011 4:01 AM EST up reply actions
@ aTasteLikeBurning
Awesome analysis, I giggled like a little school girl on several of your bullets. By the way, the Magic should totally print up a t-shirt with the ‘Nila Wafer logo and put Wafer’s picture on it…I would totally pay $30 for that!
If J-Rich does ANYTHING better than JJ,
and I don’t think he does, it’s definitely not defense. Have you actually seen Jason Richardson attempt to play defense? At least JJ battles through screens. And he’s just as good a shooter, and now that Richardson is aging and can’t create or draw fouls, they’re pretty much the same player.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 22, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
J-rich is able to play the 2 and 3
that gives us versatility
by Magical-OverHauL on Dec 22, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah,
as long as you don’t mind him playing both positions increasingly poorly over the next 4 years.
Seriously, I did a fanpost on this in the spring. J-Rich does almost nothing better than JJ, and certainly not to a degree that justifies $25 million and 4 years.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 23, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
He dunks better than JJ.
TAKE IT TO THE BANK!
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a one-legged pirate dunks better than JJ
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by TheGiantSquid on Dec 24, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
No I don't.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 24, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
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by TheGiantSquid on Dec 25, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I'm glad to see Nilla Wafer is catching on!
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by TheGiantSquid on Dec 22, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I got really excited watching this game!
The second half reminded me, regardless of peoples’ opinions (even my own), how deep our team can be if everyone plays to their potential. Every starter and major bench player contributed. Big Baby showed me a lot; I know a lot of us were pissed when Otis let Bass go, but to be fair, you saw last night the things Baby does that Bass cannot; especially creating his own shot off the dribble, and providing a much-needed boost of emotion, intensity, and leadership. I think the Magic finally got fed up with the Heat making them look like a D-League team, and found their swagger towards the end of the 2nd quarter. I transformed from a deeply depressed season ticket holder to a guy who seriously cannot wait for the season to begin now, and can only hope that what I witnessed last night will continue from EVERY player on our team!
by aterry560 on Dec 22, 2011 7:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I didnt think the offense was that bad in the first quarter.
They had ALOT of open jumpers and just couldnt make anything. At that point it must be frustrating to know youre doing most things right except making the bucket. They played through tho and started making them in the second half. In the short time Hughes played, already looked 10x better than Duhon who just looked lost out there. I’d also like to see Wafer in there more. That dunk was pretty nice.
by jtiddah on Dec 22, 2011 8:00 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. The Magic were getting good shots in the first, just not makes.
Also, the Heat scored 29 points in the 2nd quarter on 2 baskets. That’s going to be an uphill struggle for any team to overcome.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
This was a really fun preseason game and gets me super excited for the season.
Also, how many times are we going to let this team get 20 point advantages on us before we turn on the jets? It’s getting stupid really.
The rookies looked surprisingly sharp and Big Baby had his first impacting game for the Magic. Hughes had a great game but I don’t expect too many of those. Maybe he can be like J-Will was for us a few years ago and get that second wind in his career to give us a spark at the point off the bench.
Q can be a knucklehead sometimes but I totally understand his reaction to LeBron. King James was completely disrespecting our guys and trying to bait Q-Rich which did actually work but still. Just play ball, Lebron. We know you’re an arrogant jerk. You don’t have to keep consistently proving it to us.
The thing that brought the biggest smile to my face was Jameer though. He really can be amazing sometimes. I know it’ll never last but when he’s on and engaged like that it’s really awesome to watch. Also I have to give big points to JJ who I thought played a great game and he’s really earned my complete respect over the years.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
The second half of this game was fun to watch ... SVG style of basketball ... good defense leads to good offense.
There is nothing left that others have not covered … I will add only two extra perspectives:
1 – Hughes was solid last night, and short of building too much on one game, I see plenty of potentials worth sticking with him for the long haul, even in re-building.
2 – Davis was a huge lift to the team. I am looking forward to see him – just about – double his output from BOS’ history (7 points, 4 rebounds in 21 minutes). That would be fantastic, but I would settle for a 50% uptick. The intangibles are priceless … if Dwight stays.
In a Word, Surprising
Last night’s game was one that I found to be full of surprises, particularly of the new-look players Orlando has at its disposal, from its carry-overs to new signees and the rooks. Attention-getters included (in no particular order):
Von Wafer- Wow. My man can move, has a very quick handle, and even faster ups (please refer to his reverse flush), he looks like a proven ball handler and another desperately needed shot creator for the Blue Squad.
Larry Hughes- When I was first relayed news of his signing, my immediate thoughts were washed up and old. Upon seeing him getting some burn though, i see he’s retained his ballhawking abilities (2 steals) and can manage an offense with facility, has great size and provides yet ANOTHER creator for the perimeter game.
Big f***in Baby- I hated Baby (09 playoffs vs celts anybody?).. i mean really ABHORRED Baby, and I didn’t understand why we should trade Bass to get him, it seemed like such a lateral move, but after last night, I see that his intensity and leadership are really gonna make him a glue guy for this team, and all the lucky shots that I hated him making on the Magic are now at the Magic’s disposal. Otis might not have had such a terrible offseason after all
Chris Duhon- Don’t get me wrong. I hate Duhon as fervently as the next guy, but you have to admit that you had to have seen a different confidence in Chris playing now, he seems more ready to dig into the teeth of the defense, even if it means making a mistake or two, he still delivered the ball and moved better then i saw at ANY point last season.
Jameer Nelson- Oh bless you, Jameer. When Jameer is on, that’s bad news for the other guys. Stay on, Jameer. Stay on.
The Rooks- Justin Harper, Deandre Liggins, and Daniel Orton, while all are getting adjusted to the NBA run they still made positive contributions at either end of the court. Deandre has surprising driving ability and is long, and Justin comes in the mold of a typical Orlandoan stretch 4, while Orton showed his range with back to back face up j’s that had Dwight cheesing on the bench. Most of all, the rooks played hard, had heart, and look to be contributors This year in this condensed and crazy season.
Always the humble optimist, this is looking to be a roller coaster ride of a year in Magic nation, we might as well enjoy the ride, we have some fun pieces that if put together, could definitely make some noise in the East this year again.
by yourdribbleizcookiez on Dec 22, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions
You obviously don't
Don’t get me wrong. I hate Duhon as fervently as the next guy, but you have to admit that you had to have seen a different confidence in Chris
There is not one positive thing I can say about Chirs freaking Poohon. This guy is not an NBA caliber player and yet SVG plays him as such due to his contract.
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's his contract
It’s just he’s the only PG behind Jameer. If the team keeps Hughes, then that might change.
I actually
thought he looked a little better also, but I’d rather not see more if the option is there.
by Satch30 on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Great game by the Magic
Only thing I’ve got to say is I like the roles Anderson and Davis are in right now. I like Ryan as the starter because when he gets going, he’s the 2nd best scorer on this team easy and even when he isn’t he brings defense and great rebounding ability, especially on the offensive end. And Glen thrives in the energy/6th Man role. He brings great things to this team and I think he plays his best in spurts then as a starting role. If SVG keeps it like this for the rest of the year, we’re going to have a great front-court and be able to run a “traditional” offense at times if need be. Can’t wait for this season to start!
"If Dwight spent more time practicing and less time b!tching, then maybe he’d be playing a little better." -My Mom
Good game
I love the fact the team kept playing hard after falling behind early. Some other thought:
-I thought SVG should have drew up some different plays in the 1st qtr after the rough start. Some mid range shots might have helped. Then again, maybe he did and the team still decided to shoot more 3s.
-Larry freaking Hughes? Duhon sucks and I did not see any signs of him improving his standing as the worst Magic player of all time(5.66 PER last yr in 50 games). With a crazy season coming up, it would be best to keep Huhges as the 3rd PG.
-Harper is keeper, an ideal fit for SVG’s system. I wanted Liggins to shoot more, but he should a capable handle to bring it up court. Orton only played a few minutes, but he seems slow on defensive rotations still. Didn’t know he a jumpshot though.
-After the little dustup with QRich, did you notice LeBron shooting way more jumpshots? Teams need guys like QRich; guys who don’t give an eff. LeBron started playing exactly the way Q wanted him too, taking long jumpshots.
-Oh Jameer. When he is on, this team can really contend. He just doesn’t show up all the time. Great game though.
Fun game. Should be an interesting season.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
Not only can Orton shoot, he has 3 point range.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
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SVG won’t draw up plays for mid-range jumpers. They are the most inefficient shots in basketball, and SVG’s entire system is about getting the most efficient shots possible. Dunks and 3-pt shots. He’d rather have one of his guys take a 3 over a long 2 every day of the week.
I’m on board with Hughes…but we have to see if he can keep it up. Remember, this was a preseason game and he’s fighting for a contract. That’s certainly different than 30 games into the season.
Agreed with Harper. Looking forward to him getting time in blowouts and developing his game.
I don’t really agree with Liggins simply because all I’ve heard is that he’s simply not useful on the offensive end. That said, I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from him. The length and his speed/quickness allowed him to get into the lane. Those kick-outs were great to see, but I have no idea if he can make shots. What he was doing was working and he can still get back to play defense. Even if that’s all the Magic can expect to get from him — as a 3rd string defensive guy — that’s pretty good.
Q-Rich! If his 3pt shot is falling at his normal rate, he’s a HUGE help to this team. His defense and toughness are something the Magic need a lot of…him with Davis make a great energy group. The downside is last year he lost his shot, and the resulting black hole on offensive made scoring for everyone else that much harder. Him hitting a pair of 3s last night gave me some hope he’s getting his stroke back to normal. Again, if he can…great news for the Magic.
Nelson again proves that he can be an elite PG. I wish he could do it more consistantly, but even if he settles into slightly less than this game as his “norm”, that’d still be great. There’s no way he’ll make the All-Star game though, the NBA is stacked with great PGs…Rose, Rondo, Williams all have to screw up to not automatically make it at this point.
Can’t wait for the season to start.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 22, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it wasnt the score.
it was how we played the game, you need talent to win championships but you also need the mindset. This is what Q-Rich said after the game about Lebron: "You put the message out there that certain things aren’t going to happen and that you’re not going to do certain things (here) the way you would do certain things everywhere else," said Richardson. "You’re not going to get a free pass because you’re the ‘King’ or whatever you’re supposed to be. You put your pants on one leg at a time just like I do." THAT IS JUST AWESOME, GO MAGIC!
Otis Smith...............why?.....why?WHY!?!?!?!
Totally true
The team has had a very difficult time to maintain any kind of swagger after the sickness and trades of last December. That continued through the year and into the playoffs. Hopefully, they can get some of that back. If they can, it will be a very different year and, I think, go a long way to keeping Dwight in pinstripes.
Yes, it’s only 1 preseason game, but if they played like crap throughout would it only be 1 preseason game then?
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
So after catching up with all the Magic news I decided to head over to Nets Daily to see if any of them were talking about Howards demeanor in the game last night.
All I find out is apparently Brook Lopez broke his foot last night and is going to require surgery.
Please leave a message, I'm busy hiding my cat from TGS.
Uh oh
That just means he passed the first test in being considered by Otis!
Honestly, I think the Hill saga is enough to ensure the Magic never deal for someone recently injured
I could be wrong, but this team is gun shy of foot issues without a doubt.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
Wow.
First off, I feel bad for Lopez. I never thought the NJ deal was a great one for the Magic, but the guy is probably the 3rd best Center in the East, maybe top 5 in the NBA. Sucks to see someone have this happen to them.
This type of injury is so tough to gauge. For some it’s a snowball to never being the same. For some it’s not that bad. Brook’s twin Robin Lopez had the same exact injury. He was playing again in a couple months, but it took him a lot longer to get back to form on the court. No matter what it’s rough, and it sucks to see it happen to a young promising player.
The biggest question is whether he’s on the injured list past the trade deadline. If he is, he can’t be moved (from what I’ve read). So the Howard trade completely falls apart. Again you have to feel for Lopez, as a person, who’s probably going to be getting tons of pressure to get back as fast as possible just so he can be shipped off. Talk about a crappy situation. And while I admit that I’d like Howard in pinstripes, I can say without alterior motive that I hope Lopez does not rush back on the court — bad things happen when players do that.
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And just to temp karma a little bit…the comments section of the post announcing the injury is hilariously epic. I feel bad for the Nets, even if I currently am at odds with their trade desires, but the reactions of the commenters just has to be seen to be believed.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 22, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lopez
I bet it was the pinky bone in the foot. I always step on it wrong. Hang in there buddy…look foward to u having a healthy and long career in NJ
by DaytonaJim00 on Dec 22, 2011 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We should offer
Duhon for Dwill straight up..see how they like it!

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