Orlando Magic Re-Sign Earl Clark to Two-Year Contract, According to Reports
by Evan Dunlap on Dec 15, 2011 1:21 PM EST
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PrintThe Orlando Magic have re-signed combo forward Earl Clark to a two-year contract, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports. Thursday morning, Happy Walters, Clark's agent, told the Orlando Sentinel's Josh Robbins that Clark was at the Magic's practice facility, though the team declined comment to Robbins.
Clark, who turns 24 in January, played 33 games in Magic pinstripes after arriving via trade with the Phoenix Suns. The 14th pick of the 2009 NBA Draft, Clark's career averages stand at 3.3 points and 1.8 rebounds on 40.1 percent shooting. With Orlando, he tallied 4.1 points and 2.5 boards per contest, hitting 44.1 percent of his field-goal attempts.
Though limited offensively, Clark's athleticism and size allows him to defend both forward positions well, giving coach Stan Van Gundy some flexibility in lineups in which he appears. He will likely battle rookie Justin Harper for minutes as Orlando's fifth big man.
The addition of Clark brings Orlando's preseason roster to 16 players, with 13 of them on guaranteed contracts. The team's final two roster spots, if the team indeed decides to carry the full 15 players to start the season, will come down to veteran combo guard Larry Hughes, rookie combo guard DeAndre Liggins, and point guard Gabe Pruitt.
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Like Clark...
…could this be the beginning of rebuild mode? i mean we have signed a lot of rookies thus far…
If Stan likes him, that's alright for me.
With all this talk about whether Dwight has a say in GM choices, I think we should make sure Stan gets his piece in. He’s really the only one I trust in that triumvirate.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
Good pick up.
Howard, Anderson, Davis, Orton, Harper, Clark: Good ‘big’ rotation. Davis and Bass are nearly interchangable, though Davis makes a better Center-backup. Clark has grown a bit, Harper appears to be a solid player, and Orton is finally healthy. No Malik Allen. I think Orlando’s frontcourt is certainly an improvement over last year.
As for the final roster spot, I think it’s clearly down to Hughes and Liggins. Pruitt really doesn’t seem to be on the same level based on his stats, not to mention that both other players are combo gaurds…much more versital when you’re talking that deep in the depth chart. Seems like Hughes veteran status gives him a slight edge, especially considering that the only backup PG the Magic have right now is Duhon. Liggins attention to defense will help with SVG, but he’ll have to step up a lot to prove he’s worth the risk vs. a player that’s proven NBA worthy for years.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 15, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions
Seems like
we should be able to move a big for some help at the 3 or the 1.
by Satch30 on Dec 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i hope liggins sticks the magic already have veterans in nelson and duhan i think having a young guy as the 3rd pg would be nice
by turbo champion on Dec 15, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
who is this pruitt? is he better than duhon?
Missing Dwight already..
by bimbim3000 on Dec 15, 2011 1:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let’s see how duhon looks this great year. He is supposed to be a good defender and assist guy but looked lost last year. Maybe with another camp he’ll be solid ( he was before gee came here)
by dukenilnil on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
we had so many players underperform last year. I’m excited to see if some can bounce back.
by Satch30 on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If guys could just play up to their averages
We’d be in much better shape.
Yugly.
by aakks on Dec 15, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My favorite Chris Duhon moment from last year is when he couldn't even get the ball up thecourt against NY's backup PG Toney Douglas
It was an utterly pathetic sight
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 15, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
omg, why is he even on the camp!
Missing Dwight already..
by bimbim3000 on Dec 15, 2011 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
tackling dummy
"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter
by magicfaninTN on Dec 15, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
He can be
Duhon had a 5.3 PER last year. Really hard not to be better than that.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
His career PER is 11.2, even with last year's disaster.
I have to believe Duhon will be a little better this year. Really hard not to be better than that.
(This is also the reason I am very down on Jason Richardson. His crazy Phoenix playoff and beginning of last season numbers are so far above his career numbers that I think the J-Rich we saw here in Orlando IS the return to average.)
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Orton can really step up and play this year
Our frontcourt rotation kind of makes me excited to watch. Hopefully Anderson will step up more and I feel like with the addition of Big Baby, the intensity is about to go through the roof compared to what it’s been!
Hey, finally good news!
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 1:40 PM EST reply actions
At this point I welcome all non-Dwight news as good news.
Oderint dum metuant
by jBen05 on Dec 15, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm really hopeful we'll see a breakthrough year from either Anderson, Clark, or even Davis
IMO We can’t really expect much improvements in this coming season from Orton and Harper…but hopefully time will prove me wrong regarding these last two
Orton
is claiming he is ready to be the backup C this
year. If he only averages 5 mins a game of giving marginal quality minutes that is a pretty big improvement.
by Satch30 on Dec 15, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I hope he can average more than 5 min. per game.
Howard is a beast of a man, but I’d really like to see his min/game drop a bit from last year. Hopefully Orton can eat 8-10 minutes a game, thus taking Howard down to or below the 40 min. mark. Give Davis/Clark some throw away minutes at C to help out if need be. Orton being healthy is a big plus to the Magic.
There’s no way around it…this year’s frontcourt is clearly better than last years.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If only it were better than last year’s (pre-trades)…. sigh…. Otis is going to haunt my nightmares forever, I guess.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I like it
Magic gave a 1st rounder in the PHX trade and Clark was our new first rounder. He can become our backup PF if we trade Anderson. Hopefully he worked on his jumpshot though.
"A man has got to have a code." -Bunk, Season 1; Omar, Season 4.
Earl Clark & Opening day roster
I love the Clark signing. Besides defense I believe he shows potential as a PF with dribbling ability. Can you run a P&R with him as the dribbler? Hopefully we can some day. His ceiling may not be Lamar Odom high, but I think it is close with Van Gundy at the development helm.
What little we have heard from camp suggests that Liggins would be great for the last roster spot. He screams 3&D shooting guard, but he had a good enough handle in college to possibly transcend that. However, given the Magic’s need to win now and their love of experience, they will probably keep Hughes.
From what I've seen thus far, Clark doesn't have the handle to be a handler in a P&R
The other team would double before he could pick the ball up off the ground and that’s a turnover, IMHO.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
Adam
When you say… “His ceiling may not be Lamar Odom high, but I think it is close with Van Gundy at the development helm”…Are you talking about the same Van Gundy that’s used to his 7-8 man rotations. Idk about all that. With that said, SVG must go away from this “tactic” and used more bodies during games. We can’t have dressed up guys sitting for the entire game.
by extremoceleste on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
extremeceleste
I think when a guy plays defense he can get time with SVG. Courtney Lee is the best example. He was slowly integrated until he was the starting SG on our finals team. Clark’s defense could get him minutes, and I believe that his handle and passing ability (though more on display in college than his pro career) could create a unique look at the PF for this team. I am not saying that he is there now, he’s not, but the potential is there.
I don’t think that SVG should be playing guys deep on the bench just for development’s sake. This is a team that must compete with the elites in the league, so playing guys like Orton, Harper, or even Clark may not be in the cards (unless Dwight gets traded).
You have a very short memory.
In past seasons and right up to the trades last season – you know, when the Magic actually had depth – SVG used 10+ man rotations, with an entire 2nd team. After the trades robbed the team of its depth (especially Gortat), then SVG shortened the rotation, because the 9-11 guys no longer merited many minutes.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One thing I agree with Otis Smith on.
He said Orton was one year away from the draft lottery, and I totally agree. Got lost in that stacked Kentucky lineup, behind Demarcus Cousins.
Huge defensive presence, solid rebounder. Word was his post-game on offense needed some work, but the most intriguing thing to me from his Rivals profile: Has three point shooting range.
What it says, yeah.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Daniel-Orton-51353
Scouting Report: “A huge physical presence, Orton does his best work on the defensive end, blocking shots and rebounding. Offensively, he feeds the post well from the high post, but has room for improvement as a low post scorer. He does have three-point shooting range.”
not right
That’s messed up how the pic is him getting his dunk blocked by 3 different people
by DaytonaJim00 on Dec 15, 2011 2:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Technically...it's 2 different people
But 3 different hands. :
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
Looks like he decapitated the guy on the left. No head.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 15, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I like Clark. He's hard-working, seems focused. Seem to recall SVG saying he could be a "special player" on defense, and I trust his judgment there.
There are worse things than having a quick 6’10" defensive specialist on the roster.
Defensively, the Magic has a pretty good "stopper" unit.
Especially if Liggins (who’s supposedly a great defender) makes the team.
PG: Liggins, SG: Q-Rich, SF: Clark, PF: Davis, C: Howard
That group could play some SERIOUS half-court defense. Offense, on the other hand…oye.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 15, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Defense wins championships. :)
Though you’d have to rely on something between a hockey score and a football score with that crew.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
Just trying to stay prepared for the fact that Howard will be gone by the trade deadline.
It’s going to happen. Based on everything we’ve heard until now, and I mean everything, not just the worst reports, how can we possibly take the risk of facing Shaq 2?
Shaq
Didn’t have to turn down nearly $40 million to leave.
by nick_anderson on Dec 15, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Off topic.
Who’s all competing for backup pg? Is Liggins in that race? Watching Duhon is just painful..
by Memphissleek on Dec 15, 2011 2:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Duhon, Pruitt, and maybe Hughes.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hughes could be a saviour on this end.
Duhon would make me want to go to Brooklyn.
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just saw this..
On asking if the Clippers are title contenders.. Tom Haberstroh responds.
Tom Haberstroh, Heat Index: Yes. Remember: The Clippers aren’t done dealing. With a glut of point guards, they can upgrade at the 2 by the trade deadline (Eric Bledsoe for J.J. Redick?). Also: Did anyone predict the Mavericks would win it all before the playoffs started? No, but was it seen as possible? Same goes for Lob City.
JJ for Bledsoe? idk.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-Clippers-111215/are-la-clippers-title-contenders
Missing Dwight already..
Maybe.
The Magic trade their players for lesser players. It’s their new thing. Otis started it last year and seemed to really like it. JJ for Bledsoe? Maybe. But he really can’t be bothered by such trivial bad deals right now. He’s on the phones with L.A. and New Jersey at this very moment working on his opus.
Very exciting.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of "I just saw this"....I think I've finally moved off the notion of trying to convince Howard of staying.
Check out this article from Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel, about the only staff writer there that is worth anything.
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aye
I saw that too. /lame
Robbins also tweeted this: Shaq on the Magic’s situation w/Dwight Howard: “I’m anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice.”
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
yeah saw that to, but I don't listen to anything that comes out of Shaq, he's just a walking, talking billboard to promote himself.
pretty much 99.9% of everything he says is just to stir up controversy
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by malenko on Dec 15, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Saw that, too
But David Baumann also has this tidbit:
Dwight Howard: “Right now, me and Otis (Smith) are going to continue to try and make this team better,” but didn’t say trade demand was off.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
I had never even heard of Baumann until about a month or 2 ago
I like him, he seems pretty reliable with what he reports.
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can we read into..
“…make this team better”….I know its wishful thinking for a trade to bring talent in, but you know, it is Christmas time.
Pretty much everything Howard says now is just spin to me.
I want to believe him, I really do, I just can’t anymore. It might not even be his fault, it could be his handlers, but I’m sorry, you’re judged by the company you keep.
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I've gotten past the point of desperately wanting Dwight to stay
But there is no way do I want that crap NJ trade. Heck, Lopez & 2-picks (which was lame) was better than Wallace, Lopez, and 1 pick. Give me Bynum & Gasol and then let’s flip them for some nice young pieces.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, it better be for Gasol & Bynum and 2 picks, and the Lakers better take Duhon & Turkoglu (I'll miss you, Hedo!!!)l.
by funny80sguy on Dec 15, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The thing no one seems to talk about with Bynum is his contract is short.
Give him the season to see if he has turned a corner. If not, 10 mil comes off the books.
Or, like you said, trade him. Trade Gasol, too. He’s clearly in demand.
If you get LA to give up Gasol the Magic don’t even have to take him. They can make the Lakers find a third team who trades young talent/picks to the Magic for Gasol.
Make the Lakers do the work for us. And a part of me thinks Mitch Kupchak could get a better deal for Gasol than Otis Smith could. He could probably get a better deal for Gasol than what Smith is getting from the Nets for Howard.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
At least Charles Barkley has our side!
via Josh Robbins on Twitter:
Charles Barkley on Dwight Howard remaining with the Magic: “I hope he stays there.”
Barkley says Otis is getting an unfair shake: “They made a bunch of different trades. It just didn’t work.”
Barkley says if he had to start a franchise w/1 player, it would be Dwight Howard, not LeBron James.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
by cgsimone on Dec 15, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
...
The point of being a GM isn’t to make a bunch of different trades. The point is to make your team better, and if you make a bunch of different trades, THEY BETTER WORK OR YOU SHOULD LOSE YOUR JOB.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think his point is that Otis wasn't trying to sit idly by while his franchise player was in his prime.
For instance I think the 2010 team was supremely well constructed. Otis was on a roll then with the signing of VC, gaining Ryan Anderson and Brandon Bass, Matt Barnes and the resigning of Gortat. His only major loss was C-Lee but he got Anderson so it’s kind of a wash talent wise.
Barkley is trying to say that Otis doesn’t deserve all the blame because some things didn’t work out. For instance, I was through the roof about signing J-Rich because I thought his style of play would fit us very well. But of course his production took a nose dive.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
by cgsimone on Dec 15, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Being a GM isn't an "effort" grade.
It’s a results grade, and while I actually liked his moves prior to the 2010 season, he completely undid that last season, and that was after dismantling an NBA Finals team in the first place. If it works, great. If it doesn’t work, you’ve failed as a GM.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Dec 15, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Barkley hoped Lebron stayed too
Otis is certainly to blame for the Magic’s main problem right now. Lack of athleticism and cap space flexibility for years.
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Dwight is just trying to create as much noise and confusion as he can in order to distort the situation.
The more he complicates a trade from occurring, the more beneficial it is for him. His best case scenario is for the Magic to trade him to the Nets – but that is a terrible trade for the Magic – and one he know is very unlikely to happen.
So instead he creates the illusion that he might stay – leading the Magic on (at least until after the trade deadline). If he gets traded anywhere else he has a whole other set of problems and another year of drama (potentially ruined or lost season). If he tricks the Magic into thinking he is staying, at seasons end, he says “see Magic didn’t improve – see ya Oville hello Brooklyn”.
At that point, we have to give him our worse option outside of zero return – which would be to sign and trade.
Yes that is less than if he stayed with the Magic but (outside of getting traded to Nets for pennies on the dollar) it is the better of all of his other choices for what his true intentions are – which is to leave.
The Magic would.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What do people expect happens if we actually pulled a trade for Iguodala?
Howard holds a press conference and says he’s definitely re-signing?
Replace "press conference" with "ice cream social". Then, yes.
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ok I've had enough of Howard
How about Bynum, a borderline all-star at the 3 or 1, and a couple of picks (the quality and amount of the picks depending on the quality, age and the contract of the borderline all star) Gasol ought to be worth that.
by Satch30 on Dec 15, 2011 4:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ugh....if you really want to get sick look at this video from the magic's site....
http://www.nba.com/magic/video/2011/12/15/121511howardftsm4v-1936100/index.html
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I feel like he's about to turn the corner...
This really blows. I think we’re cursed.
by ggrant on Dec 15, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it makes you feel any better, I hear he's been drilling them in practice for years now.
Just can’t in game situations.
That's true
He’d be better of running a lap of the court and doing 10 pushups and then take 2 free-throws. Not perfect, but much more “game like”.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
You should watch his press interview video from today.
He was wearing a Dodgers cap. Is this Dwight’s way of saying he wants to go Jordan and switch to baseball?
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
Noticed that too...
..2 separate press interviews in 2 days, each day he had a different cap on. Neither was was an orlando magic cap..
In Twitter
He changed his profile picture for a non-Magic picture couple months back…
Then changed back?
Because on his twitter he is sporting the Magic
Was it a retro Dodgers cap?
As in the Brooklyn Dodgers? CONSPIRACY‼
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
DOUBLE CONSPIRACY‼
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by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 15, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He said the other day
in twitter he wanted to play goalie for the Mighty Ducks… so, everything is possible…
watch the interview yourself
… he said that there is not back and forth, it still stands, and I think he refers to the whole situation, his trade request, and the possibility of staying if there are changes (whatever the changes are). He also says he’s working with Otis to make this team better. IDK what to think about it, but I think what he meant is that the request stands until he sees the changes, and that is consistent with what he said Monday.
by karpito on Dec 15, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It could also mean that he's working with Otis on the trade for him to get us better deals.
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I don't wanna watched again...
but I think he said to make the team better in the court.
If he leaves he just leaves this team is terrible, by helping find a good trade, he's rationalizing that he's helping the team on the court by getting them players.
I understand what you’re saying though. I’m just speculating to promote discussion.
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Why would he need to work with Otis
to get the team better on the court. Wouldn’t he work with Stan on that?
I know it’s just reading into words, but if he’s working with Otis (and not just saying that), you’d have to think it was for player movement.
I agree with you guys
but I want to find the positive side to every comment/word… He’s probably working with Otis trying to recruit and get the best team possible in the court?
yes..
that’s what I mean/hoping for. I’m hoping Dwight means he’s trying to bring talent into the organization, i.e. doing what he said he always wanted to do.
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious what's going on.
Nothing has changed. When asked initially if he wanted to be playing for the Magic on opening day, he said yes. I think he wants to play for us at least to the deadline to see how things work out but he wanted it to be kept quiet so fans wouldn’t be a distraction. Now he’s going to have to deal with fans at the games possibly booing him and stuff like that and distracting him and the team on the court.
The media is reporting the changes from day to day but I think that has more to do with Howard’s agent talking to teams and Otis talking to teams than it does Howard himself. Howard will play until he’s traded. If this season turns out to be a fairytale, he may stick around. But why would a few days practice change his mind? This is going to have to play out slowly.
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by cgsimone on Dec 15, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole fan part is what I'm most curious about.
I’ve sat here and asked myself several times, if I went to a game, when he is introduced would I cheer him or boo him. I never really was able to answer, I still don’t know which I would do.
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I was thinking about that yesterday.
I don’t think I’d boo, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t cheer either. Maybe, I’d just clap politely, or just sip my beer.
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by TheOtherWhiteMeat on Dec 15, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm back and forth
and at times I want to cheer and sometimes I want go boo… I think I’m watching him to much and I’m becoming like him…
It's going to be interesting to see what happens for sure.
Also given Howard’s sensitive nature, depending what happens (if he really is still considering staying) could go a long way to his feelings. A loud chorus of boos could help solidify his feeling of wanting to get out of dodge. A super loud chorus of cheers might make him think twice about what he’s pondering giving up.
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by malenko on Dec 15, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would cheer
I don’t know what anyone else would do, but I’d cheer until he says he isn’t coming back for 2 reasons.
1. I’m a fan and he’s still the best player on my team and one of the top 2 on the planet.
2. If I trust that he really has conflicted feelings (which I really don’t doubt – big changes are hard and even people begging for a divorce frequently have trouble pulling the trigger), why would I want to do anything to tip the scale that would cripple my franchise for years?
That said, I certainly hope other people don’t boo him for the reasons of #2, but I don’t have a lot of faith in that happening.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
by EnnBee on Dec 15, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Since we didn't get Chauncey
could Baron Davis do the trick for Dwight?
If you don't have anything good to say about the Cards this season, you'd be correct.
Beat me to it lol
His back is pretty bad though, but I do wonder if it wasn’t overstated to allow him to be cleared.
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I saw Hollinger questioning the reality of his back situation with someone else on Twitter
They are wondering if it isn’t a “waivers ploy” that is probably far more effective than Billups’.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
I doubt he goes unclaimed in the amnesty waiver auction
He won’t make it to free agency, I don’t think.
Even if he could, Davis is sidelined for 2 months according to his agent the other day.
Course that could have just been said to keep teams from bidding on him so he can be a FA
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Wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a second opinion after he clears waivers.
When life gives you lemons... Bag them up and sell them. Fruit can be expensive these days.
by hevchv on Dec 15, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe the Devos family is just going to sit back and watch Shaq 2 happen again.
I can’t blame Dwight in any of this. He played here a long time, seems willing to stay if a few changes are made/players acquired, and he has told us ahead of time so we can try to get something in return. Fans can’t possibly ask for anything more than the way he is handling this.
The solution isn’t that difficult. Fire Otis, maybe hire the Dream to replace Patrick Ewing, and get him one or two more players on his list. What is so difficult? And why is the Devos family just sitting back and doing nothing?
Dwight is now blowing smoke
He wants to go to the big city, it isn’t about just winning for him. He wants to play with one of his friends not named Jameer.
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I'd guess Atlanta says no.
It could be tempting for the Magic on several fronts, but I’m not completely sure it’s a no brainer for them. They would certainly consider it long and hard, though.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
Atlanta isn't giving up Hinrich and one of the few guys who consistently get under Dwight's skin in Pachulia
I could see them trying to shop Smith since he’s a headcase but even then it would have to be a great deal cause he’s a huge part of their team whether they like it or not.
EAT ME
by BigMac12111 on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Cuban on Howard
DavidBaumann33 David Baumann
In case you missed our @BHSN interview with @mcuban yesterday, here it is again: cfnews13.com/video?clip=htt… owner Cuban on future of Dwight Howard
Cuban speaking about Howard:
• basically he says player input and dialogue important on roster but GM makes the decisions – says Dirk knows he’s a terrible at trying to be GM and Dirk trusts him to make the right decisions
• Mavs and magic have talked but he doesn’t see anything happening but things could change quickly
Cuban allowed Dirk's best friend (Steve Nash) to leave via free agency in order to sign Erick Dampier
Yeah, it was a stupid move in retrospect, but it does point out that Cuban makes the decisions and it is not dictated by his players.
If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, it better be for Gasol & Bynum and 2 picks, and the Lakers better take Duhon & Turkoglu (I'll miss you, Hedo!!!)l.
Players think they know what it takes to be GM, but truth is most of them don't.
Maybe it took a while for Dirk to realize that, and it certainly took years for him to get that championship ring, but his patience was rewarded.
If Howard really wanted Arenas to stay, that’s evidence enough he is not ready to be a GM… same thing can be said about the Magic’s actual GM, but that’s another story.
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by North of the South on Dec 15, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
has anyone herd from dwights mouth he requested a yrade agian?
by mazzella592 on Dec 15, 2011 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not really.
What he said today was:
“There not a ‘back and forth’, we’re not going to get into it,” Howard said. “I’m not going to talk about that everyday – am I going to get traded? – it still stands. We know what’s going on. I talked to Otis (Smith) today and what we talk about is going to stay between me and him.”
Fans of him going somewhere else take that to mean that he reiterated again the demands for a trade. However, in full context, it’s pretty clear he’s saying that nothing is changing from what he has already said and he’s tired of answering questions about it.
Can we just start playing games on the court already?!
SVG on Von Wafer..
He liked how the offense got good shots whenever Von Wafer ran off of screens. Wafer was effective passing the ball out when defensive help arrived. "We’ve had a lot of unselfish plays, but I thought he probably did the best job of anybody creating offense for himself and his teammates," Van Gundy said.
it seems like wafer is going to get some minutes. maybe he fits in SVG system?
Missing Dwight already..
He's normally a shooting gaurd...
…but I’m wondering if he has the ball handling skills to take up some minutes at PG?
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 15, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
probably not. just an off guard with decent handle.
"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter
by magicfaninTN on Dec 15, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
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