Nenê Re-Signs with Denver Nuggets, Keeping New Jersey Nets Cap Space Intact for Dwight Howard Pursuit
The Denver Nuggets re-signed forward/center Nenê to a five-year contract worth $67 million, according to multiple reports Tuesday night, with ESPN's Marc Stein (by my unofficial observation) tweeting the news first. The burly Brazilianear had a four-year, $64 million offer from the New Jersey Nets, but chose to stay with the one NBA team he's ever known over the chance to anchor a front line with Brook Lopez when the Nets move to Brooklyn before the next season.
A Western club re-signing its top frontcourt player, oddly enough, has bearing on the Orlando Magic's goal of doing the same when Dwight Howard hits free agency next summer. Had Nenê chosen New Jersey, it would have limited its long-term salary outlook, complicating its pursuit of Howard.
Instead, the Nets' salary cap is mostly clear for 2012-13, making a run at Howard possible and giving them some leverage; if the Nets stay far enough below the cap, it can afford to sign Howard outright as a free agent. And if Howard makes clear the only team with which he'll play is Brooklyn--as Carmelo Anthony did with the New York Knicks last season--he and the Nets can effectively force Orlando to trade him there or risk losing him for nothing come summer.
Again, that outcome is contingent on the Nets being fiscally responsible and Howard ruling out Orlando, the Dallas Mavericks, and the Los Angeles Lakers, which are reportedly the other teams to which he's considering committing long-term.
But New Jersey's cap situation remains rosy, according to ShamSports' salary figures. Assuming it waives Travis Outlaw via the amnesty clause--in the first year of a $35 million contract, the veteran small forward shot 37.5 percent and averaged just 9.2 points per game--the highest guaranteed salary it has on the books will be Anthony Morrow's at $4 million. In addition to Morrow, New Jersey has $3.5 million committed to Johan Petro and could owe Jordan Farmar $4.25 million if he exercises his player option. It will have cap holds on center Brook Lopez, All-Star point guard Deron Williams, and whichever draft picks it signs from the 2011 and 2012 classes. That's all. Clearly, Nenê's choice to stay in Denver will make New Jersey redouble its efforts to lure Howard.
Conspiracy theorists will note Dan Fegan represents Nenê and Howard, and thus could have steered the former toward the Nuggets in order to keep open the possibility of the latter playing in a larger market than Orlando. Please note that's merely a theory some folks may have in response to this news.
What do you make of the Nets' chances of landing Howard, in light of their losing out on Nenê?
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I have no idea
but my preference is to keep him and make him take the pay cut if he wants to leave. I think we will end up playing much better this year and maybe he wil see the team as going in the right direction.
by Satch30 on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think their chances are great
It is pretty apparent Dwight wants to play with Deron, and we will not have the ability to sign him. None of the players on Dwight’s wish list besides Davis are readily attainable with the Magic’s assets. We need a hail mary to get Josh Smith or Iggy, or Dwight to realize this is a good team that can be great with his help.
My biggest consolation was the report that Dwight wanted to recruit Billups to the Magic, you generally don’t want to improve a team if you want to be traded soon after.
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What is the reasoning behind allowing Howard's agent to discuss potential trades while Howard is saying he wants to stay?
I just wonder if they think they have the personnel now to make a serious run.
Because they certainly don’t have the money or assets to make big changes. I mean, it can’t be a secret to any of them, Howard least of all, that the Magic are not in a position for things to “change”.
Howard doesn't strike me as a realistic man.
I don’t think Howard believes that there are no options for the Magic to improve.
He sees other teams looking to win now preying on teams looking to start over. Like when guys like Stephen Jackson being traded for Corey Maggette and guys like Gerald Wallace being traded for Joel Przybilla and he probably wonders why the Magic can never get in on any of these moves.
If he had a more rational outlook on where the Magic are he probably would be more adamant about wanting to be traded.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 14, 2011 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Please don't bring up that Gerald Wallace trade.
If they’d have taken Pryzbilla, they’d have taken Gortat.
Plus it's good business, in a sort of way (I guess?), as it maintains a solid relationship with Fegan, one of the league's more powerful agents.
It certainly doesn’t hurt the Magic’s relationship with Fegan.
by Evan Dunlap on Dec 14, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
and by putting it on Dwight and his agent to get the trade packages
they save the ire of unreasonable Magic fans (yes me!) from turning on them.
In the end the Magic really don’t have a hand to play. My biggest fear is exactly what this article states, the Nets can now sign Howard outright, which means they can keep all of their assets and sign Howard in the off season. In fact, if I were Deron, that would be what I what I would be whispering to Dwight right now. Miami is stacked, we need every good player we can get. Three 1st rounders in a stacked draft to go with Lopez, Howard, and Deron? Am I reading that right, is that frigging possible? That would be devastating, but at the very least I would be happy for Dwight. But that certainly means that the Magic have to find out sooner than later what Dwight is going to do if they want to be able to trade him. Come March, Dwight would likely be more inclined just to wait a few more months.
I am made of bits of real panther so you know I'm good.
And I guess in light of last year's early exit it's easy to be down on the Magic's prospects.
But even Kelly Dwyer, even in light of the Davis trade and Richardson signing, points out that the Magic have some kind of shot.
Maybe Turkoglu does have it in him to get back to ‘09 form. Maybe Ryan Anderson can take another step forward and fill something like the ’09 Rashard Lewis role. Maybe J-Rich won’t slump.
Trying to get excited.
We actually have a really good team
The only problem is when we start comparing them. This team is imo better than our last Finals team, but that was before Miami stacked the deck and New York got stacked. Now if you don’t have two plus superstars, you immediately look like you can’t compete. I don’t agree with that sentiment, but it is apparently the theme for NBA players right now.
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by Eric9321 on Dec 14, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this wont happen.
1.The magic are never going to TRADE him to NJ or anybody for that matter, regardless of if he complains all season(which he says he wont) we are gonna make him play with the orlando magic. He will have to take less and make a decision then.
2.If we can make some trades it will come to dwight just wanting to leave orlando, not that we didnt try.
3.Why are the nets so confident? They really have not been relevant and ALL they have is D-Will.. The magic and the nets will be in the same spot next offseason, them and their fans talk all tough and its bull.
Otis Smith...............why?.....why?WHY!?!?!?!
I wish I had your confidence
I don’t know that Howard will really mind sacrificing money. Lebron and co. certainly were willing to do so to stack the deck. I hope Dwight would rather work for it here.
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Its not about the money for dwight, he already said that. He wants to get paid but will take less to win. And there are great things in brooklyn but dwight is a great guy and is solidly based in FL. Im not saying he wont leave. But im pretty sure at this point it would be in offseason as a FA
Otis Smith...............why?.....why?WHY!?!?!?!
Lebron and Co. Gave up ~ $3 million over the life of their contracts
Dwight would be giving up between $30 and $40 million. That is a HUGE difference.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
Didn't D-Will already ask to be traded this year? Why are we not after him?
D-Will ends this season on a losing team, we let Dwight know that we will go after D-Will at the end of this season.
He told a NJ radio station (or maybe it was Brooklyn, I don't recall) that there's a 90% chance he'll stay with the Nets
Now if they start, like, 5-20 or something like that he might change his mind.
The Nets winning percentage last season was 29%
For the games after getting Williams it was 28%. If this year is similar it definitely gets to the players and their mindsets. It is difficult to run on “wait til next year” for an entire season.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
I see this as something Dwight should take notice of
Because if Nene doesn’t want to go play for the Russian billionaire, why should he? Obviously things in NJ aren’t as rose colored as everyone seems to believe.
Fear the Beard!
by BleedingBlueSince89 on Dec 14, 2011 12:29 AM EST reply actions
this doesn't really add up to me
the Nets have a rich owner who may be the president of Russia in the future, three good picks, an all star pg, and a near all-star center who might be able to be paired with Dwight. Not to mention a brand new arena in Brooklyn where a rich young guy could really live it up. Of course there is always Jay Z in there as well who I have to believe can relate to players better than many other owners. I mean it is no coincidence that Dwight doesn’t want to play for places like Chicago, his choices aren’t just based on big markets, it appears he has picked out the places with the best owners.
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3 good picks?
They have their own and a top 14 protected one from Houston, right? What is the third one?
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 14, 2011 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
I remember the last businessman who got in the way of Putin in Russia
Im not sure their owner is the guaranteed image of stability. Crazy things happen all the time.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
Maybe Nene just didn't want to be in the same conference
as Dwight… :)
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Maybe Otis should start negotiating a deal with NJ, agree in principal, then balk. Then renegotiate and then keep ratcheting up his demands until NJ folds.
Then enter talks with the Lakers, and keep driving up the price until they balk. Meanwhile, get NJ back on the phone…
#BasketballReasons
by Jtyler998 on Dec 14, 2011 12:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
hmm
i wonder why people think this means Dwight is definitely heading to the Nets now. It just sounds like Nene chose Denver over NJ
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 1:44 AM EST reply actions
im kinda nervous bout this
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 18m
Y! Sources: Orlando, N.J. trade talks for Dwight Howard gather momentum, but are Magic truly inclined to move star now? tinyurl.com/csgmnvc
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 1:46 AM EST reply actions
Meh.
Maybe I’m too easily swayed by the Magic’s posturing, but I’m super skeptical. Dwight is a once in a generation player and the Magic gain nothing by rushing. If this mystery “other player” isn’t someone marketable on the order of Lebron or Griffen it sounds like a whole lot of conjecture to me.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
i agree
this is like a soap opera lol
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
i think if our team is struggling
and by struggling I mean not a top 3 seed, we might trade him at the March trade deadline. But if our team is performing well, I think Dwight can be convinced to stay. But I feel like he should let us know his intentions by the deadline so we don’t come away empty handed if he leaves
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions
This!
I say wait until the trade deadline to make a decision. If the current team as assembled is winning games and looking strong, let it ride. I doubt Howard would want to leave a promising playoff bound team for a lottery team (NJ). If Orlando starts off like 03 -04, well, He’s going to let it be known loud and clear he wants out, so then it’s time to wheel and deal for the future.
What is the definition of a “once in a generation player”? I’m pretty sure that Dwight is the fifth once-in-a-generation-player to play for the Magic since I’ve been following them… and I haven’t had kids yet. lol
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 14, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
Also
am I the only one who wants to see Von Wafer get good bench minutes this year? I think he can be a stud off the bench..like a poor mans jamal crawford.. he can create his own shot and is atheletic
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 1:58 AM EST reply actions
true
but if Hedo can play acceptable defense on Orlando, I believe Von Wafer can too
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, he had one good year with Houston
Discounting his Rockets tenure, Wafer’s averages are 2.4 minutes per game on 34.7 percent shooting.
He’s deep bench material, I think. Closer to Jeremy Richardson than, say, sophomore J.J. Redick.
hmm
that’s true…but he did tear it up in the italian league averaging 19ppg but I’m not sure how good that league is. I just really like his ability to create his own shot, something I haven’t seen any guard do except Nelson in a while..I really believe we are going to trade some of our guards, or cut some, cuz there are way too many on this roster
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 5:47 AM EST up reply actions
If he does in the NBA what he does in Italian league highlight videos...
he’s gonna get stuffed on his way to the rim b/c of lack of elevation or just jack up off-balance long 2s (which will get him yanked to the bench by SVG).
He has decent range on his shot, so he could be helpful from deep. And if he can be careful and smart when entering the lane, he may have the handles to attack the rim….just not sure yet about his finishing ability.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 14, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
SVG was praising his quick first step today.
But now I’m gonna have to look up the Italian league highlights.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
I look at the situation as something that may potentially be great to us. 1st we have a better team than the nets right now (not sure if they can even make it to the playoff). 2nd We have so far added players and only sent one away (most of them are reasonable contracts), they play well this year, they increase their value and we have more trade chips. 3rd If Dwight is serious about his loyalty to orlando, if he says Im staying, Deron will follow. Deron right now is left with no teammate to play with. They don’t even have a froncourt right now! If the Magic do well, they will be more attractive to deron (provided Howard says Im stayin), and we might actually have some consolation pieces for the Nets
by Serra on Dec 14, 2011 2:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Orlando is a team with a core, you add another star and they are contenders, not to mention that hedo might be more tradable the less he has remaining in his contract..
by Serra on Dec 14, 2011 2:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
im still afraid of Dallas
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 14, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

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