Howard Wants Change. But What Change?
The past week has been perhaps the greatest emotional roller coaster in Orlando Magic franchise history. Leading with former CEO Bob Vander Weide's late night phone call to Dwight Howard, and subsequent resignation, the remainder of the week pingponged between rumors that Howard requested a trade, or that Howard wanted to stay in Orlando.
Then on Saturday, Howard went before the press to admit that both are true. He'd love to stay in Orlando, but he wants to move on.
How can this be, you might ask? Perhaps it has to do with Howard's later admission that he has "no relationship" with Magic GM Otis Smith. Or that he feels the franchise hasn't included him at all when making major personnel decisions.
Today, Howard again alluded to Smith's past decisions by saying that you're either "Bar-B-Que" or "Mildew" and he wants to be Bar-B-Que.
If anything resembled mildew, it was the Magic losing in six games to the Atlanta Hawks. A playoff exit that came only months after Smith made two "blockbuster" trades, intending to provide a boost to Orlando's stagnant offense.
Stagnation really seems to be the key word. I think Howard feels like the Magic have been stagnating since their 2009 NBA Finals run.
And I couldn't agree more. I also agree that Otis Smith has a lot to do with it.
Here's why.
Otis Smith vs. Stan Van Gundy
I've had a sense since the failed '09 Finals appearance that Otis Smith and Stan Van Gundy simply do not agree on what makes a great basketball team. Unfortunately I can't find anything concrete on the web, but I seem to recall some conflict between them over SVG's 4 out/1 in offense, which emphasized Howard drawing double teams inside, then kicking the ball out to the perimeter for an open 3.
Many of the players Otis Smith has brought in since then haven't necessarily fit in with SVG's system. Two of the biggest acquisitions for the 2010 season, Brandon Bass and Vince Carter, were far better suited to a traditional offense.
Since then the decline has only continued, as everyone well knows. Smith has made several FA acquisitions and trades, including the "blockbuster" trades last winter, none of which have improved our team.
Again, I'm not sure what the relationship is between SVG and Otis. But I did find it pretty telling when SVG voiced his frustration during the Atlanta series at "not having a Jamal Crawford" type player.
As Dwight has expressed frustration with Otis Smith at not listening to him about personnel, I wonder if SVG receives the same treatment.
Otis Smith vs. Dwight Howard
In addition to moving away from SVG's signature offense, Otis Smith simply broke up the 2009 finals team, a move which apparently hurt Dwight a lot. The Magic lost Courtney Lee in the trade, a promising young talent with whom Howard had built a strong friendship.
That really seems to be a big part of the problem. Howard keeps losing his buddies.
Not to delve too much deeper into arm chair psychology, but from what I've seen over the past year or so, I think the problem is simply this: Dwight doesn't trust Otis. He doesn't trust him to build an effective team around him, and doesn't trust him not to ship his buddies across the country without so much as a heads up.
If the Magic were winning, Dwight would probably suck it up and accept that Otis knows what he's doing. But since 2009, the Magic have steadily gotten worse, and Howard has seen more and more of his buddies shipped off.
Meanwhile, the Magic GM seems pretty non-plussed about the whole thing, certainly about Howard's feelings. And this approach might work with a guy like Lebron James. But, as far as I can tell, Dwight Howard is not at all like Lebron James. He's a genuine guy with a big heart.
He may not know what it takes to build a championship team, and may suggest some flawed personnel moves, but that really doesn't seem to be the issue. The issue seems to be relationship. Howard has needs, apparently emotional needs, which are not being met. And Otis Smith seems unwilling to meet them, even if it means Howard leaves Orlando.
Bottom Line
You've got one of, if not the winningest head coach in the NBA over the past four years, and arguably the best player in the NBA, frustrated with a GM whose track record since 2009 is a train wreck.
And, let's be honest, his entire track record as GM has not been impressive.
I'm increasingly convinced the Magic's success in 2009 stemmed from Stan Van Gundy coaching the way he wanted to, and Dwight Howard feeling confident enough to really step into a leadership role, as part of a team he loved.
In fact, my money says the last big trade of 2009, that brought Rafer Alston to the Magic, was all Stan Van Gundy. I think Otis went to SVG and said, what and/or who do you need? And then he went out and got him.
After that, I think Otis felt ready to start tinkering. He was going into his third year as GM, the Magic were on the cusp of a Championship. It was time for Otis Smith to shine. To build the team HE wanted, the team HE felt could beat the Lakers. And so he tinkered without regard for Van Gundy's system, or Howard's feelings.
Otis Smith took a championship-caliber Orlando Magic team and ran it into the ground.
The change in Howard's demeanor after meeting with Alex Martins could have to do with a sense that things might be different going forward. Fresh blood. I know Martins is an impressive guy who exudes confidence and optimism. The kind of guy Howard is likely to respond to.
Hard to believe a change-up at GM wouldn't build on these results.
Martins needs to bring in someone new, and someone proven. Someone who can build the relationship with Howard that Otis couldn't, or wouldn't, and give him confidence that the Magic are headed in a new, far better direction: from mildew to bar-b-que.
This FanPost was made by a member of the Orlando Pinstriped Post community, and is to be treated as the opinions and views of its author, not that of the blogger or blog community as a whole.
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Fire Otis and someone please tell Stan that his 4 and 1 system doesn’t work anymore
From the looks of twitter
sounds like dwight wants Chauncey
I don't think it's Stan's "4 and 1" system
He didn’t use that system in Miami. When asked about the system he has said that he doesn’t have anyone to create off the dribble, he doesn’t have that player, so he is forced to play this system.
Remember, Dwight hasn’t been a great offensive player for most of his time in Orlando. He’s getting there. But just recently.
Stan made the Magic a great defensive team and used 3pt shooting as a way to hide the offensive shortcomings.
Then the Magic made it to the finals.
Then the Magic made a series of moves that sacrificed defense to improve the offense. Only they were only half effective; they didn’t improve the offense but they did sacrifice the hell out of the defense.
And here we are.
Not Stan’s fault at all in my opinion.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 12, 2011 3:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
I do think Stan does love the 3 ball. But it shouldn’t be the focal point, and when it fails and there’s no one to create, you’re basically dead. No intelligent coach wants that to happen.
But I do think Stan would prefer a capable perimeter player at the 4 to a traditional interior power forward.
Courtney Lee maybe would never have turned into an All Star, but I think he could’ve become a capable scorer in our offense.
Stan is a modern day stats guy and he wants efficient scoring
In the NBA, that is dunks, layups, free throws, corner threes, threes, <10 foot shots, 15-18ft shots, 18-23ft shots in that order.
Everything he does is about getting attempts in that order. Seeing as we’ve not had many guys who can get to the rim for dunks and layups (beyond Dwight) and that Dwight has not been great at hitting cutters going to the rim, you do what you can. I’d argue he’s done as much as anyone possibly could.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
by EnnBee on Dec 12, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Agree with this post
And agree with that philosophy. How do you win at a high level in the NBA? Suffocating defense and efficient scoring.
I think that SVG probably is about as happy about his roster input being ignored as Dwight Howard is.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 12, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent point
You could tell from his reactions to various trades (especially last year) that he wasn’t a fan of the moves.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
The whole list or just the top 10?
Blowing an extra $20 million by trading Lewis for a guy with a longer, worse contract and amnestying him?
His complete alienation of your once in a generation player?
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
by EnnBee on Dec 12, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Those are reasons to fire him, not reasons to believe he'll be fired.
I’ve heard a lot of good things about Alex Martins. But I’m not convinced he thinks Otis Smith is a legitimate problem.
I forgot to add in my original post, how about Smith and Martin’s conflicting stories about granting Howard permission to talk to trade suitors?
How did that alone not get Smith fired/scapegoated?
The fact that hes kept his job over the last couple years blows my mind
I think I honestly wont feel we can be contenders until otis is out of the picture. He seems too trigger happy
This is what has confused me -- how are the owners not furious at Otis?
Otis had them basically light money on fire for a horrible roster outside of Dwight. Ownership should be furious. (Really good post by the way JT)
Yes there is a legit reason to believe that otis maybe fired
Alex Martins and Dwight Howard had a meeting this morning not including Otis. Alex maybe willing to actually listen to Dwight. Its possible Alex will talk to Otis, tell him to do his job and listen to Dwight or at least talk to him, and if not fire him. heres the quote and the link “New Magic CEO Alex Martins met with Howard when he arrived at Amway Center Monday morning. Afterward Howard sounded like he’d softened on the possibility of staying in Orlando as long as there are some changes.” http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7345415/dwight-howard-rethinking-demand-trade-orlando-magic
by Gabriel Hernandez on Dec 12, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
This meeting happening without Otis, on the heels of Martin/Smith's conflicting stories about Howard's future in Orlando...
I really want to believe Martin is taking control of the situation, and that he’s aware of the problems and how they can be solved.
Our system as of last year, was a bunch of spot up shooting off the screen with zero defense. When we rely on that style of game while shooting more nervous tban a long tailed cat on a room full of rocking chairs, you have an outcome like the 6game Hawks series.
by DaytonaJim00 on Dec 12, 2011 4:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And that had everything to do with personnel.
The only player who could consistently get to the basket, other than Howard, was Nelson.
Yes.
Howard and Nelson have proven to be the only two that won’t fall apart in the post season. I liked the idea of Turk being able to run the offense balancing out Jameers style, It just seems somthing was missing… I don’t mind the J-Rich deal either. But what personell changes would really make a giant impact?
by flaonline1700 on Dec 12, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In my opinion, the summer of 2009 is when things really started to decline.
Otis should’ve been a lot more careful with that group, and made far wiser decisions, i.e. not bringing in his buddy Vince.
The summer 2009 trades weren't terrible
I mean, I wouldn’t say they were great, but getting Ryan Anderson was important to Stan and the Magic. Giving up Lee sucked, but Hedo wanted too much money. So, as far as making the best of a bad situation, it was actually acceptable to me.
The real problem in my mind is the panicked trades of last December. The Magic started slowly, but had then been CRUSHING teams when illness struck. They lost a number of games and were barely dressing enough guys to even start the games. That blip of just a couple of weeks caused us to trade away most of our tradable assets (and only backup center) plus a first round draft pick. Oh, and of course get back Hedo that was too expensive to sign to the same contract the year before. The return of Hedo (whom I like) meant there were too many guys at the SF and PF position which means you give up an overpaid but solid locker room guy for an overpaid loose canon in Arenas.
That December panic was the biggest misstep of all, IMHO, and set the stage for where we are now. I firmly believe that if the team had waited 2 more weeks to do something, no trades (certainly of that magnitude) would have happened the Magic would have at least been playing in the ECF.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
by EnnBee on Dec 12, 2011 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree Hedo needed to be given up. But not for Vince.
I’ve never been a big Vince Carter fan. Easy to say this looking back, but from day 1 I had a feeling things would play out exactly like they did.
To me the other big problem was not re-signing Barnes.
Under valuing Barnes’ contribution was one of the most glaring errors committed by Smith.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 12, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd. Great synopsis.
By beating Miami (at home) and Chicago (at the start of the roadtrip) Magic projected that they would at least be as good as making it to ECF.
Recommended also
When the Magic clobbered the Bulls in Chicago on December 1st of last season, the Bulls’ announcers were raving about the Magic being a legitimate championship contender and how that was the best they’ve seen Vince Carter play in three years.
Just 2 1/2 weeks later, the trades that broke up the Magic were made.
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Bears... 2010 NFC North Champion
Orlando Magic... 1995 and 2009 Eastern Conference Champions
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 13, 2011 3:52 AM EST up reply actions
god that's depressing
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 13, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes... SMH because of those trades
The nine game winning streak in late December into January was nice, and created a lot of hope, but things went downhill in a hurry after that. The Magic won only 15 of their next 27 games after that nine game winning streak and finished the season winning 12 of their last 18 games before being eliminated in the first round by Atlanta.
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Bears... 2010 NFC North Champion
Orlando Magic... 1995 and 2009 Eastern Conference Champions
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 13, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Which really confuses me why mgmt didn't dump Otis at that point.
Maybe the real problem is ABOVE Otis. Time will tell whether that was BVW or somebody else.
Dumping Otis before the lockout would have said, “Hey Dwight, we know we made a mistake….we’re working on it.”
"...sometimes your eyes lie to you..." ~SVG | I'm on Twitter
by magicfaninTN on Dec 13, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Profound question
Won’t it be ironic if we find out that Otis, Dwight and SVG were always on the same page but the bad decisions were originating from BVW?
If nothing else, I would be impressed by how well that secret was kept.
by MagicPhan on Dec 16, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd. The simplicity - yet concise nature - of this FanPost is amazing.
I hope that the fans outrage would persist a variety of ways leading to Otis Smith’s dismissal. Months back, I suggested setting up a “FireOtisSmith” website, which I would have honestly initiated myself if I was not consumed by a foreign assignment and lack of proper access. Looking back maybe the time was not right back then since, soon thereafter, we were pushed into the lull caused by the NBA lock-out. Regardless, Smith has lost all his leverage – and soundness of mind, I dare to say – to communicate with Dwight and lead the necessary improvements detriment to Dwight’s retention. I trust Alex Martins – regardless of his relationship with Smith – could realize the realities on the ground, and move in the right direction. For the starter he needs to order Smith to “cease and desist” from all matters relevant to Dwight.
Why can't we have....
Paul and T. White from NO
and then they get…
Ryan Anderson, Jameer Nelson and JJ Redick….
Are these the kind of changes he may want?
Patience is a Virtue
by Str8path-to-Title on Dec 12, 2011 6:42 PM EST reply actions
Because they aren't the kinds of changes New Orleans wants.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
I really really truly believe what he wants is a new coach
Van GUndy’s days are numbered in Orlando
You heard it her first——SOURCE——-ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do wonder if Dwight wants a new head coach.
But again, the responsibility falls on the Magic GM to finesse Howard into realizing that Stan Van Gundy is an asset, which he most certainly is.
In fact, I’ll just say it outright: hiring Stan Van Gundy is the best decision Otis Smith has made in his entire tenure as Magic GM.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 12, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SVG wasn't his first choice
Remember the Billy Donovan debacle?
but he isnt good for our TEam at this point
HE FEELS VANGUNDY HAD HIS CHANCE, TIME TO CHANGE THE CAVALRY
???
How dis SVG slip? What match up did he mess up or what player did he misuse?
by DaytonaJim00 on Dec 12, 2011 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can Turk be amnestied next year to sign Chris Paul?
Is this even possible, and a change may happen though late for next year.
Patience is a Virtue
by Str8path-to-Title on Dec 12, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Nope. Your team gets one amnesty ever and Arenas got it.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
I think if they did get more than one they'd just amnesty Arenas twice.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 12, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Don't think he's signed on anywhere yet, I think I heard Atlanta was looking at him though. Could be my mind imagining things however.
Please leave a message, I'm busy hiding my cat from TGS.
The biggest reason
for the 09-10 team stepping back was Lewis not being the same player after coming off of his suspension. That wasn’t Otis’ fault. Also, as far as the December trades, both Richardson and Arenas played substantially worse once they got here. If Richardson plays anywhere close to the previous years playoffs, we beat the Hawks easily. Having said that, I’m perfectly fine with firing Otis, but I think he is getting a little too much of the blame. Almost everyone on the team played below their capabilities at the end of the year.
You asked for my thoughts on this earlier via Twitter, Sorry Im just now getting around to read it.
It is a perfect synopsis of why Otis Smith should no longer be employed by the Orlando Magic. I don’t think I can surmise it any better. In fact, if it’s ok with you, I’d like to link this writeup to the “website” part of the @FireOtisSmith Twitter account.
yeah
i used to support Otis…but if the reason Dwight wants to leave is because him, then Otis is VERY expendable
Don't be a follower homie, be a leader! And if I lose you on twitter, then so be it
by supermantotherescue on Dec 13, 2011 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
I agree.
For the life of me, I can NOT understand how he still has a job with this team. He bids for players with himself. He doles out bad contracts and is arrogant. He has no clue how to do a trade. He has no clue how to evaluate talent. It boils my blood to see him screw up this franchise. Does he have dirt on the ownership? I can not bring myself to understand how he sill has a job. He’s humiliated this team over and over again. He has to be fired NOW if we are to keep Howard, or even to rebuild after Howard leaves as a result of his stupidity.
My 'can do' spirits in the house, and its possessing your possessions did you hear it by the couch?
by Dome of the Rock on Dec 13, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
you can not say he does not have an eye for talent.
Redick, Anderson, Lee, Clark, and harper show he can see talent. And Daniel Orton may be better than you think.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
by Mateo9399 on Dec 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very well-written fan post and recommended
I thought Smith did a heck of a job in building the 2009 Eastern Conference Champions, but I’ve been extremely disappointed in the majority of his moves since then.
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Bears... 2010 NFC North Champion
Orlando Magic... 1995 and 2009 Eastern Conference Champions
by Mike from Illinois on Dec 13, 2011 3:55 AM EST reply actions
Another angle on this just to mix it up: how smart would Alex Martins be to fire Otis Smith right before the season begins?
I honestly don’t know, but it certainly doesn’t project a sense of stability to the rest of the league.
I think the signal sent to the fans and Dwight matters more than what the league thinks.
Most of the movements end by Dec16 anyways, and Martins can assume the responsibility of GM afterwards until a replacement is found. Relieving Smith also means he cannot cause any further damage with regard to Dwight, although I tend to believe that he is operating in a restricted capacity.
This is definitely an issue to consider
Even with the compressed season, compared to people’s memories, it is still long. Better to not panic (like the trades of last December) and make thoughtful decisions. You can let tempers die down, address the structural issues (@stevekylerNBA says it is an organization thing as much as Otis specifically) and find a proven GM to replace Smith if possible. You could do all of this slowly and deliberately over the next 12 weeks and still not be quite to the trade deadline.
Let the team start playing and hope to get some wins. Winning cures a lot of ills and tempers emotions. Then you take your time to make the moves when the lights aren’t so bright and people are expecting them.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
As much as I'd like to see it happen.
I, too, don’t think Otis will be fired until the end of the season (if at all). However, in the last few weeks, it does seem that he’s been neutered a bit. I don’t think he has as much power/backing within the organization as he once did. Maybe this is due to BVW resigning or maybe because of his deteriorating relationship with Dwight, but I agree with Jt, firing him now just makes the Magic look even weaker and more disorganized than they already look. I’m in the proceed-cautiously-camp with Otis and Dwight.
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by TheOtherWhiteMeat on Dec 15, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Vanderweide walked out with no notice, so anything is possible
The front office did its best to portray his departure as a planned one, but when you “watch the tapes” you know he was fired.
There is a lot of blame to go around for where we are today, but I’m pretty sure BVW isn’t getting enough of it. He has the most arrogant hair in America.
This entire dilemma may have stemmed from Bob’s hair. It just rubs people the wrong way. Seriously, you’re at a party or luncheon, Bob’s hair walks in, with Bob under it…you get that little hitch in your chest. Someone throws up a little in his mouth. It’s just very distracting.
So here’s my vision of what really happened in December ’09:
Scene: war room. Otis and Stan are sitting at a small table, muttering over a stack of trade offers.
Enter Bob’s hair (with Bob)
Bob’s hair: Hi guys. What’s shakin’?
(Otis and Stan freeze. Having lost their thoughts, the fight for something, anything to say)
Otis: Umm
Stan: (confused, mutters under his breath) Cripes, what were we talking about?
Bob’s Hair: Seriously, fellas, the trade deadline is in, like, 2 minutes. You better cough something up before the bell rings!
(Bob’s hair leaves the room. Otis and Stan stare blankly at each other, having forgotten that they were finalizing a blockbuster deal to bring Kobe Bryant to Orlando in exchange for bobble head dolls)
Stan: What…What were…
Otis: I…I think…
Stan: Um…maybe it’s in the stack here.
Otis: We better figure out what we were doing in, like, ten seconds.
Stan: I have no…freakin’…clue what we were talking about.
(phone rings…agent for various former all-stars calls in panic…deal gets made)
(one hour later, Bob’s hair is notified. Stan and Otis are walking out of the war room, oblivious of the missed Bryant opportunity)
Stan: That was exhausting. Let’s get something to eat.
Otis: Yeah, I’m starving. Where ya wanna go?
Stan: I’m craving Kobe for some reason.
I might be off track, but this is the affect Bob’s hair has always had on me. There’s no way he makes it look that way without a team of professionals.
Rec'd
Look, the problem with this team right now starts and ends with Otis. I find it mind boggling that he is still employed, especially after the Phoenix trade and the Arenas trade last year. Both were disasters. When is he going to be held accountable for ruining this team? I mean does Dwight actually have to leave before this guy gets canned?
Yugly.
Trade?
is that the change he wants? Paul/Iggy in. Nelson/Ryan/Orton/JJ/Turk out. Philly might say no, but I think NO would like this deal.
Yeah, pretty much just hand the Magic the title with that one.
Which is why that won’t happen. Also I’m not taking that if I’m Philly. For New Orleans, they can get a much better deal with the Clips that they are trying to hash out now. NO holds most of the cards because they have the best player in any trade.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
NO loses most of its leverage if LAC backs out for good.
They are the only team with the combination of youth, talent, and picks that NO desires.
As for Philly, they are said to want to move Speights and Iggy, and were at one time interested in Turk since he can be waived a year early (and play in the meantime.
Damn ESPN
Magic In: CP3, Iggy, Brian Butch
Magic Out: Nelson, Anderson, Orton, Turk, JJ
Reasons: Talent, keep DH
NOH In: Nelson, Anderson, Orton, Speights (+ picks)
NOH Out: CP3, Brian Butch
Reasons: Get young talent and Nelson is expiring (and might resign fairly cheap)
PHI In: Turk, JJ
PHI Out: Iggy, Speights
Reasons: Save money after waiving Turks final year, allow Turner and Thad Young more PT.
I love trades where every team accepts our crappiest offers and get screwed
And we get all of the best players (that Brian Butch is a beast).
I should really change my signature because this one no longer applies: "If the Magic must trade Dwight to the Lakers, the trade better include Gilbert Arenas as well. I want the Lakers to suffer."
by funny80sguy on Dec 13, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anderson and Speights are legit building blocks. Who knows about Orton.
Butch comes back to replace Orton, plus who doesn’t like the Polar Bear?
Orton could be a top tier center, based on potential.
Then again so could Eddie Curry and Kwame Brown.
But I have a lot of faith in him. Like Otis Smith said (he was right about this) Orton was a year away from being a top lottery pick. He just got lost behind Cousins.
See, I'm skeptical that shaking up the roster is necessarily where keeping Howard begins.
Also, not to back down from my criticisms of Otis Smith, but I’m inclined to think Howard’s real frustration stem from top-down orgainzational problems within the Magic organization.
Otis Smith may simply be a symptom of a greater problem. Alex Martins taking over could be the beginning of the fix.
If Alex Martins can convince Howard that, from this day forward, the Magic are going to do everything they can, in light of their financial/personnel situation, to build back to contender status, then you have to think Howard stays.
We aren’t winning an NBA Championship this year. And we aren’t in a position to make one trade to get us over that hump.
The question is, can Alex Martin get Howard to accept this reality and still feel confident in the Magic organinzation’s future.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 13, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
See this is what I was saying last year
We’re a couple years away from being where we need to be. IMO we need to sell Dwight on a plan, not make kneejerk moves to keep him. Now that doesn’t mean we don’t jump on a Chris Paul, Monta Ellis, or Andre Iguodala trade if the opportunity presents itself. It just means that probably won’t happen, but a solid plan is something we can put together. Or at least SHOULD be able to.
Yugly.
There was a theory floating around that the trades of last December have been run by Dwight, but we know now that wasn't true.
The problem is that Otis Smith could not find a happy medium between “players dictating” and “managers deciding” the moves. There is nothing wrong with communicating and seeking feedback from the players, especially the franchise player … consult with players on the moves – especially those who are going to be affected by them – and encourage them to speak freely. The least it would do for you is that you address their concerns, and try to make them take the ownership of the moves. Nobody in a right frame of mind could argue that Dwight was happy that his best back-up was traded … and I submit to you that – besides the stupidity of the move – Otis Smith did it without even trying to have a simple dialogue with Dwight. If that is the “culture” of the organization, it has to change, and change right now.
Great Synopsis!! I liked Otis until..........
He decided that his team was the most important thing for the Magic, when in reality what this organisation and the fans want and rely on is having Dwight Howard play for us, it sells tickets and creates jobs. But more than that it gives a mid market town a top level team, and Otis doesn’t seem like that really matters to him, creating a top level team needs everyone to work together. I liked what he did to get us into contention in 2009 but realistically his recent trades have really been atrocious!! The trades back in December made no sense, D12 seemed really cut up and upset about loosing Rashard, almost as if he had no idea what was coming, and that annoys me, our most treasured asset alongside SVG has been kept out of the loop on a major player trade, I don’t blame Dwight for wanting to leave. But I’m really just hoping that this is a glimpse of hope and Smith has been pegged down a few notches and Martin as set him in his place! The TEAM is bigger than one man, at least Dwight wants to work with us to make this team great again, we need a GM who shares that passion and is willing to listen and make decisions based on the teams needs and opinions.
Can Von Wafer
play pg? I’d like to see him get 10-12 mins a game..he can be a great scorer off the bench, and I don’t ever wanna see chris Poohon on the court again unless its to give superman a drink of water.
My proposed depth chart, assuming all things stay the same (which they probly wont).
Pg: Nelson/Wafer/Duhon
Sg: Richardson/Redick/Hughes/Wafer
Sf: Hedo/Richardson/Harper
Pf: Davis/Anderson/Harper
C: Howard/Orton/Davis
Don't be a follower homie, be a leader! And if I lose you on twitter, then so be it
by supermantotherescue on Dec 13, 2011 5:45 PM EST reply actions
REALLY INTRIGUED
by Harper…was encouraged by his play in France…plus he stayed all 4 years in college so he can come in and contribute right away like Courtney Lee did
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 13, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah... I can't wait to see Harper play
He improved significantly from game to game in his stint overseas.
It’ll be interesting to see if that translates to success in the NBA. We’ll probably have to be patient and give him some time.
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i heard that
SVG said the rookies probably won’t play much this season…hope he changes his mind cuz i think Harper can contribute right away, a la Courtney Lee
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 13, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
He has career averages of
0.7 assists per game
0.56 turnovers per game
So I don’t think he handles the ball much.
by aTasteLikeBurning on Dec 13, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
hmm
still would prefer him over duhon lol
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by supermantotherescue on Dec 13, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
Thoughtful post on Otis. The Rashard/Arenas trade and now the amnesty should be the final straw. Signing Rashard to such a high contract was a mistake but he was a professional, worked hard, and at least contributed to the team. Rashard was able to at least cover up for some of the mistake; especially after making the finals. He may have been hurt, but players get hurt all the time.
A 4 month rental of Arenas now costs the team about 70 million dollars. I know I would lose my job if I cost my employer 100 dollars, let alone 70 mil.
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Last summer's signing was bad.
QRich and Duhon both played so poorly last year.
If i were dwight i would walk in to alex martins office and say…. Either Otis leaves or I do, you cannot defend the man. The finals team had it all except for 1 more dominant scorer like an iggy or an ellis. Otis has put us in a serious bind every year and stan coaches us up and got us to the playoffs each year as a 2-5 seed. Otis needs to go and sign a business man who isnt afraid to wheel and deal. Instead of an ex-player who uses heart over mind.
Otis Smith...............why?.....why?WHY!?!?!?!
dwight wants change...?
This just in, change of location is the answer.
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