Orlando Magic Training Camp: Dwight Howard's Future the Biggest Topic on Day One
The Orlando Magic began training camp Friday afternoon, working from approximately 4 to 8:20 with a one-hour break, coach Stan Van Gundy said. Of course, to the media, the start of training camp was more of an aside to the ongoing drama surrounding Dwight Howard.
"That's a lot of people just standing there to watch somebody shoot free throws," Van Gundy said after meeting the media, referring to the crowd of eight to 10 reporters and cameramen who had migrated away from Van Gundy's scrum in order to stake out the other end of the floor, where Howard practice free-throw shooting with Magic assistant coach Patrick Ewing.
The hubbub around Howard will persist throughout the season, and Van Gundy has no illusions about that. "We gotta be realistic there's gonna be all this stuff going on," Van Gundy said, "and I understand it's gonna create great interest. And that's fine. But when we come out here, it's not about any of that. It's about basketball.
"We have a short amount of time to get ready. That's my focus. Obviously, Otis has a lot of other things going on, and things he has to be concerned with. He certainly keeps me informed. We talk about those things. But when it's time for practice, that's what I'm concerned with. And our players, that's where their focus needs to be.
"It's not easy. I understand that. I'm not living in fantasyland. It's not easy. As I said, the NBA today was a three-ring circus and we were in the big top. But you deal with it."
And Orlando dealt with it Friday by working hard, though not full-contact. "We got a ton of offense in [and] did some defensive drilling," Van Gundy said. The Magic also worked in two-on-two pick-and-roll sets. Orlando's coach was pleased his team had 12 players on the first day of camp, noting that some teams had as few as eight.
In fact, Van Gundy's only real complaint is the lack of big men at his disposal. The only power forwards Orlando had were Ryan Anderson and Justin Harper, with Howard and Daniel Orton playing center. As a result, those four players hardly got any rest.
Orton in particular is an interesting case for Orlando. Though drafted a year ago, he didn't play in any games because he was injured for most of the season. Van Gundy estimated he only participated in two practices the whole year, and listed him as "new to us," along with camp invitees Larry Hughes and Gabe Pruitt.
By all accounts, Orton acquitted himself well in practice. "He's very smart," Van Gundy said, noting it appears as though the Kentucky product "has shed some weight" during the lockout. He struggled toward the end of the pick-and-roll drills, in which he had to defend Howard. "In the last seven or eight minutes, he was hanging on for dear life," Orlando's coach said of Orton's performance in the 20-minute drill, which included no breaks.
But Orton indeed appears to be in great shape. "This is the best I've felt since going into college," he said. As for his left knee, which has injured several times since his senior year of high school, Orton said "I can jump off it with no pain. It feels really good."
That's a great sign for Orlando, which lacked a solid backup for Howard last season after it traded Marcin Gortat in December. At 6-foot-10 and listed at 255 pounds, Orton has true NBA center size, though Glen Davis (6-foot-9, 289 pounds) will likely see time at center as well.
Orton's biggest challenge Friday, he said, "was just picking up on plays." He explained: "I've been around for a while, but it's different when you're in there from watching. Totally different."
"Totally different" could describe Orlando's season if it indeed parts ways with Howard. But for right now, the Magic's center is in Orlando, "and that's the only thing that matters," Howard said.
Practice resumes Saturday at 4 PM. Van Gundy plans to go through contact drills then, and to do more work on the defensive side of the ball.
Other notes:
Howard's free-throw stroke appears to have altered slightly. To my eyes, he's put much more arc on the shot; he didn't serve up many, if any, line drives. Additionally, it seems to me he's taking his guide hand off the ball sooner than he has in the past.
Van Gundy noted that Hughes "played basically three positions for us and had no problem whatsoever." For a 10-year veteran who had yet to play within Van Gundy's system prior to taking the court Friday, that's high praise. Hughes could make a decent utility option off Orlando's bench if it decides to retain him after training camp.
I found it interesting, and telling, that Van Gundy used Harper as a big man instead of a wing. Harper can play either forward position, but it appears as though Van Gundy intends to use the former Richmond Spider primarily at power forward. Then again, he may simply have slotted him there in order to have four big men.
Howard said Hedo Turkoglu "looked like the '09 Turk" on Friday, a positive sign. Though Turkoglu played fairly well after re-joining the Magic last December--especially as a three-point shooter and facilitator--a return to his near All-Star form from his first two seasons under Van Gundy would certainly boost the Magic's offense.
Unrestricted free agents Jason Richardson and Earl Clark did not attend the Magic's practice, as expected. As best I could tell--and I didn't hear every part of every media scrum--neither Van Gundy nor his players fielded any questions about Richardson or Clark.
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Probably have Baby as the backup center I guess
Eh. You could do worst I guess. As long as Anderson is finally starting.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Nice to have a bit more servicable big men.
If Orton really can go, that’s a huge help.
Howard, Orton, Davis all at Center
Anderson, Davis, Harper, and (?) Clark all at PF
I’m a bit concerned at the lack of news on J-Rich and Clark, though. Honestly, more Clark. J-Rich could help if he comes back, but I always felt JJ did a great job starting and there’s a solid amount of depth at the G spots now (Nelson, JJ, Wafer, Hughes, Liggins, Duhon).
Clark on the other hand I felt had real potential…though I felt that when he was in PHX as well and he never got over the hump. SVG really seemed to like his worth ethic which I felt bode well. He’s so young, I figured if he had a good run for a year or two he’d be a real help or at least a solid trade chip. I guess we’ll see…
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 10, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
I hope we can bring Clark back
I like his energy and defensive effort. Plus he’s big and athletic enough to guard the 3, 4, & 5 positions.
I just worry about where he would see enough time to develop????
C-Howard, Davis, Orton
PF-Anderson, Davis, Harper
SF-Turk, Harper, Q
Of course there could be more trades in store????
Ahh, real basketball
How I’ve missed thee.
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Laker trade is back on.
I actually want this trade to happen. Lakers would have NO bigs. And nothing to offer for Dwight. Thus giving us some leverage over New Jersey on top of the fact that we know they tampered. Give us Brooks and Lopez and take Turk, Q, and Duhon. Clear all our bad contracts, we suck draft Barnes and Marshall next year and watch Marshall, Barnes, Brooks, and Anderson blossom.
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Hollinger also said that he thinks trade must include bynum in for odom and send Okafor back to LA.
There goes their hopes of getting Dwight then.
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Yup.
Seriously kind of an awful trade for the Lakers. They don’t get cap space.
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And they basically replace their All Star PF and Center with Okafor.
Ouch.
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Exactly.
This is not a winning trade for them. Please NBA let this trade happen. Literally everyone except the Lakers win in this trade.
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well
They do get Paul, so there’s that.
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Yes but who he pass the Ball to?
Kobe and Odom? Looks like Bynum is heading to New Orleans I think.
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They won't be able to get D12 though, so there's that
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yes. I am really hoping Bynum is in this deal to NOLA
Although it looks like Marc Stein just said Odom is still in trade going to NOLA.
Waiting to see what the report is about the pieces.
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so you think it would be fair for them to get one of the top 2 point guards in the league and cap space?
I mean if they could pull it off good for them, I’m just saying why should you expect to have your cake and eat it too.
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They don't get cap space.
Uh the Hornets are not under the cap and therefore can not give them space. Okafor is heading to LA.
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I know this
I was making the point that people are saying this was horrible for the Lakers, and you posted how awful it was for them and that “They don’t get cap space”. I’m saying they are getting one of the top PG’s in the league, why should they expect to get cap relief as well?
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The Lakers can still win it all if they get Paul and Okafor for Gasol and Bynum
You have elite scoring and playmaking in Kobe and Paul. You still have the ability to score in the post with Odom. You have top teir defense with Metta World Peace and above average post defense and rebounding in Okafor. Plus you never have to bother throwing the ball into Okafor. Something Kobe will appreciate
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 10, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, plus they'll have their next star lined up (given Paul stays)
Just because the Lakers are the NBA darlings doesn’t mean the world should be handed to them and they shouldn’t have to rebuild like every other team has to. I can see where it might not take them as long, but i don’t get why other teams bend over backwards to appease them so that they don’t have to rebuild but every 20 years….and normally only takes them 1 maybe 2 years to return to greatness.
Meh, maybe I’m just being jealous and emo, being a Magic fan will do it to you these days. :(
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by malenko on Dec 10, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't feel guilty
The Lakers have apparently envied us and the Hornets for our superstars. It’s sad They might get their superstar duo from us once again.
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No harm done, I understood that what I was trying to say just didn't click.
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I like the idea of playing Harper in the Lewis-mold with him spreading the floor and posting up when needed.
And since we’re a little under-manned at the forward position he will probably get minutes at SF too which is good. I’d also like to see how Larry Hughes is shooting the ball. If he still has a nice shot, he could really help us
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Why isnt SVG playing Hedo at the 4 then? He doesnt have the foot speed to play SF anyway... ugh I hate this team
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 10, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Because Hedo would get destroyed by stronger PFs.
He may not have the best foot speed to slow down the more athletic SFs, but his length allows him to at least have some effect on the perimeter to allow time for Howard to come help hold the paint.
If Hedo was left alone to guard the block against someone like…well almost any large PF in the league, they’d just power through him. Any help from Howard in that situation (if there’s even time) wouldn’t be as effective and leave an easy dunk for the opposing center.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 10, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
"If (Larry Hughes) still has a nice shot, he could really help us."
It would be nice if the Magic were getting the Larry Hughes from seven years ago, when he averaged 22 points a game, but they’re not.
Hughes shot a scintillating 35.5% from the field in 2009-10, his last NBA season, which was almost five percentage points lower than his 08-09 FG% of 40.2%.
He’s going to be 33 years old in January. His best days are well behind him; I just don’t see how he can help the Magic.
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 10, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
The Magic always bring in guys who were awesome 5 years ago
Too bad they are also guys who suck now.
It’s like their specialty.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!
I would love to have the Hughes of old, but I wouldn't mind having a 13 point Hughes this year.
And yea the data says he’s done but a guy can hope, can’t he?
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And Evan
Was Howard’s new stroke more fluid and did he seem to be making more shots than he was missing?
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I love this site.
I really do. Evan, fantastic work. And I think it’s great that they let you in the facility. How were you able to accomplish that? Press pass or something of the sort?
Thanks for everything you do for us. This is my first, and best source of Magic news.
by McD5 on Dec 10, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Me too
Sometimes I think it’s better than Orlando Sentinel. Hehehe..
Btw, Evan. I’ve been a reader I think since the ‘09 season.. but I think this is the 1st time I’m commenting haha!
I use to really like the sentinel (orlandomagicbasketblog) site
but the people commenting seem to be growing more and more irrational with their posts/comments.
by Justin85 on Dec 10, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree.
I also check on it everyday, and I’ve noticed that a lot of people who comment there are really irrational. Unlike here, it’s a community. I think people are a lot more civil, organized, and have a better understanding of what really goes on especially in terms of basketball business and stats. Because of this site, I’ve learned to look at the advanced numbers.
by gm.zyn on Dec 11, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not buying it Dwight. You want the circus. You want the constant media attention.
This is what you have asked for publicly. Now your getting it. Please Dwight dont insult of intelligence and play the victim in this. I used to think Dwight was a different kind of athlete. Yeah that didn’t last long
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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I think at one point he was.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 10, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
That's the only thing that gets me all irritated
If the guy wants to move on to (in his mind) greener pastures and try out different things, then have at it, it’s his right. My thing though is don’t give us this I want bright lights big cities attitude and then when you start getting the attention of the giant spotlight in your face critiquing everything about you (which guess what, is going to happen in a major market) start crying you want to be left alone.
His life is going to be miserable if he hates this, especially if he ends up in New York. Life will be all rosy at first, but let the Nets not start winning championships or even getting to the finals and watch how quick the people of New York start to turn on him.
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The attention isn't all he's asking for.
Otis Smith has confirmed to the Sentinel that Dwight Howard has asked to be traded.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
At least Otis seems to be taking the stand of we'll trade him to who we want, not necessarily to who Howard wants
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Yes, but...
If it’s a team that Howard doesn’t want, they aren’t going to give up much to rent him for the season.
Really could have used that franchise tag.
Fingers crossed and beard still growing.
I still hope they don't rush into anything
reports have also been popping up that Howard has changed his mind 4 times in the last 4 days as to whether he stays or goes. Who knows, at least if this is the final decision all this mess will be over soon.
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I guess the acquisiton of Glen Davis wasn't enough to make D12 change his mind about wanting to be traded
…and he’s apparently not too keen on the idea of the Magic going very far this season.
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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 10, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the non-Howard information as well, Evan.
I understand that Howard’s decision has the biggest impact on the Magic as a team…but it’s really nice to hear about things not Howard related to break up the rumor mill.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 10, 2011 5:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
orlando sentinel reports dwight howard requested a trade.
:(..
i say howard and turk to chicago for deng, noah, asik and watson. works on trade machine, dont know if chicago is willing to do it.
by bimbim3000 on Dec 10, 2011 5:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like Asik alot for some reason
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 11, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
He's likeable.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 11, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
It's official. Dwight has requested a trade.
Twice since Monday, according to the Sentinel.
So you're saying Dwight might start hitting his free throws - but it will be on another team.
Awesome.
Another Hall of Fame center on the move just before hitting their peak? The NBA is Big-Market-Tastic!

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