Dwight Howard Trade Rumors: Orlando Magic Could Deal Superstar Before NBA Season Begins, Says Report
by Evan Dunlap on Dec 1, 2011 11:34 PM EST
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PrintESPN's Marc Stein reports the Orlando Magic may trade All-Star center Dwight Howard before the regular season starts on December 25th, according to "a growing number of league executives." Otis Smith, the Magic's President of Basketball Operations, told the Orlando Sentinel on Wednesday that trading Howard isn't outside the realm of possibility.
"I think you have to look at everything," Smith told the Sentinel's Josh Robbins. "I don't think you can take anything out of consideration."
The most commonly rumored destinations for Howard are the Los Angeles Lakers and New Jersey Nets. Both afford Howard the opportunity to play with superstars he admires--Los Angeles boasts Kobe Bryant, while New Jersey has Deron Williams signed through this coming season--and can offer the Magic fairly attractive trade packages. The Lakers would presumably offer some combination of Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol, and Lamar Odom, while the Nets have a bevy of future draft picks in addition to 23-year-old center Brook Lopez.
Other teams to consider are the Los Angeles Clippers, who could team Howard with Rookie of the Year winner Blake Griffin and offer high-scoring shooting guard Eric Gordon to Orlando; as well as the deep-pocketed Dallas Mavericks, the defending NBA champions who boast Rodrigue Beaubois as a top trade asset, in addition to the warm-weather climate Howard prefers.
Howard has spent his entire seven-year career with Orlando, which made the controversial decision to select him over four-year collegian Emeka Okafor first in the 2004 NBA Draft. In addition to his three Defensive Player of the Year awards, five All-Star berths, and five All-NBA team selections, Howard owns career averages of 18.2 points, 12.9 rebounds, and 2.2 blocked shots.
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I’m even more sympathetic to Cleveland & Denver now than I was a year ago.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dwight’s face in the picture says it all.
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by Blood, Sugar, Sex, ORLANDO Magic on Dec 1, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions
So yeah... signing Rashard to that horrible contract did cripple the franchise and make Howard leave. Well done Otis.
And now we also want to trade away the “assets” we got from a young promising C and an expiring contract. At least the hockey guy did pick Howard!
Uh, what?
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 1, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
We didnt go to the Finals with Lewis, right?
We didn’t win the division three straight years? Two ECF appearances right? Yup all Rashard’s fault.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
You're right a 3 year contract would have been perfect
Do you believe the 6 year Max deal was a smart move?
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by UCLA_Alum on Dec 2, 2011 7:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Egggggsaktly.
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Do you think he would have accepted a 3-yr deal?
Just because he ended up in Orlando doesn’t mean that it was preordained that he would have accepted any deal the Magic offered.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 2, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Probably not and that would have been fine by me
Basically that signing put us 3 years into the hole (2010-11, 2011-12 and 2012-13) for Rashard at $63.5M and then Otis flopped that bad deal to get us another $22.3M hole for 2013-14 (Arenas). I thought back when we signed Rashard for the 6 year $120M that it was a stupid deal then and now time has proved accurate.
The hole we’re in now and the entire purpose of the article that all these comments are about that Evan wrote (the D12 trade rumors) can be directly traced to signings like this where we’re no longer competitive and are backed into a whole to be competitive in order to keep Dwight.
Good teams with good GMs make shrewd decisions. Neither the signing of Rashard nor the trade for Arenas can be considered shrewd.
If you thought the signing was good because it gave us 3 good years (helped take us to 2 ECFs and one finals), you’re essentially saying he was worth $40M/yr for the 3 years and leveraging the immediate future of the franchise to have gotten him.
I would have let some other team sign him to a max and found a different way to be competitive over the entire 6 year contract period
Live life to the fullest, and do it in the fast lane
We got to the finals with Lewis and Turk, and then decided we couldn´t win playing that syle
Dismantled the team and brought “an athletic wing that can create his own shot” AKA Vince Carter, Richardson and even Gilbert Arenas.
Signing Rashard did get us to ONE final appearence. But it severely limited our chances to add the dinamic player we needed to complement Howard. As Evan alway says this is a make or miss league. And I see no rings. Shooters + Howard was a failure. Playoffs proved we needed shooters + go to guy+ Howard. And we couldn´t get that guy because of Lewis contract.
We didn´t have anyone who could close the games against the Lakers, or take the Celtics D one on one next year. we couldn´t even takt the Hawks D.
When Rashard was signed many writers said “this will cripple the franchise and Howard will leave”.
Now the franchise is economically tied, doesn’t have the cap to bring a game changer player and Howard will likely leave. Rashard’s Lewis ludicrous contract has a lot to do with that. To add insult to injury Otis gave Rashard a 7th year of contract on the last minute. Had Lewis signed a 6 year contract Orlando could have kept him and it would own at this time a 20M expiring contract which could trade for some solid help.
Lewis contract morphed into Arenas contract... I wish it were dead but Otis decided he wanted 1 more year of torture
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
The emergence of Dwight Howard's offensive game and the improved play of Nelson and Hedo had nothing to do with it... It was all Lewisadditions
Get real… We had a max contract player as our 4th!!! best playmaker
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
If Rashard's contract was the worst thing that Otis had done,
we wouldn’t be nearly as angry. That contract was too big and too long, but it did get us a Finals appearance. Otis made many bigger mistakes, especially the bad-at-the-time-and-only-looking-worse-now trades he made last season.
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by MoveThoseChains on Dec 2, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Clippers would have the best offer.
Eric Gordon, MIN’s unprotected 2012 1st rounder in a deep draft, and Kaman’s $12 million expiring contract would be three valuable assets. Plus they have nice young talent to pick from like Bledsoe, Aminu, and Jordan (would have to be a S&T’d as an RFA) if they take on Turk as well. Amnesty Gilbert and we just cleared up a bunch of cap room for next year.
Eric Gordon and a top 5 pick in the upcoming draft isn’t a bad start to the rebuilding process.
(This was depressing to even type.)
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yeah basically IF we do have to deal Dwight
The Clips would be the first team I’d call. But I see no reason to rush into something before the season even begins, especially with all the speculation about Chris Paul floating about.
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by JeffShann3 on Dec 1, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
With the Hornets being owned by the league, how do they even execute trades/signings?
I don’t know who makes decisions for them, but if Stern/Silver is involved, there’s no way they’d trade him to us or even NY for that matter. Would violate that whole “competitive balance” thing they kept talking about.
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Maybe a violation.
’cept Orlando is a small market.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 2, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I had the impression they were referring to "superpowers" or the big spending teams.
Which would include us. But I know what you mean.
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Dell Demps is their GM
I’m pretty sure he’s still in control of running the team’s day to day operations. While I understand what you’re saying, the league also cannot get involved and tell them they can’t make moves either. Last year after Jeff Bower “resigned” as GM, they still signed some players and even traded for Jerryd Bayless.
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Thanks for the clarification.
I knew there was some uproar about them trading for Landry last year (from Cuban, was it?). Wasn’t sure how being “NBA owned” factored into decisions though.
Still, I really can’t see how we can get Chris Paul here through trade, unless some third team is involved. And those get sticky.
The most realistic way he gets here is if we miraculously clear up enough room to sign him. I’m not banking on Otis being that creative.
So unfortunately I’m already resigned to the fact that he’ll be traded and looking forward to the best possible package we can get. It will soften the blow when it actually does happen.
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Read this: It’ll clear up how to get it done for you. http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2011/12/1/2604740/the-magic-gambit
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Hah, just did. Right before I saw this post.
Gave me goosebumps. Also, false hope.
He brings up great points though. Unless OKC pops into the equation with a Westbrook offer, we’re the only team that can take that no-extension risk.
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F the pick go for Jordan and Gordon
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Wishful thinking by a "growning number of execs."
ESPN’s Marc Stein reports the Orlando Magic may trade All-Star center Dwight Howard before the regular season starts on December 25th, according to “a growing number of league executives.”
If I were them, I’d stir the rumor mill, too.
All that matters is what Dwight thinks. Still need to hear from him.
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by magicfaninTN on Dec 1, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
EXACTLY
You can't reason with stupid.
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Any idea when team execs are allowed to talk to players?
Or if Dwight will even be bold enough to give a straight answer?
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I think whenever the deal is finalized, but that doesn't look like it will be until the 8th
Will he be bold enough to give an answer to who, the public? No way. To Otis? Maybe, once he truly decides what he wants to do. I’m not sold he really has his mind made up yet though.
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We've heard what he thinks
He’s been suckered by the allure of big markets and media. Once I heard that line I was done with Dwight Howard/ He is buying into the ridiculously stupid agent BS where being a basketball player isnt enough. He wants to become a “brand.”
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
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by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is becoming the Brett Farve Crap
of basketball. Seriously. Until we hear a concrete offer for Dwight, or that Dwight is saying that he would/would not sign an extension if traded to (insert team here), let’s stop with the Dwight is leaving stuff. These rumors are exactly the same as they’ve been for the past year.
This dead horse is beaten.
It must be difficult to come up with new posts about this stuff, because it’s darn sure difficult to make new comments.
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by BleedingBlueSince89 on Dec 1, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Remember when we were all excited about the start of the season?
Ahh memories…
Finally, Gilbert Arenas can become the player he was meant to be!
by TheGiantSquid on Dec 2, 2011 1:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
My thought exactly.
Honestly, I just might prefer lockout talk to this.
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by slickw143 on Dec 2, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't wait for the games to start.
The trade non-sense are at a digusting pitch. At least once games start they have SOMETHING else to talk about, even if they still mostly focus on trade talk (which they will).
I was hoping for a flood of stories on how the players are doing, who looks good and who doesn’t, what they did with their off time, etc…instead it’s non-stop hearsay reporting. I hope once the training camps start on the 9th and reporters have better access to the players themselves, we’ll start seeing some stories not associated with trade rumors.
What? I can hope!
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I didnt miss the NBA at all LOL
I’d be more excited when this whole Dwight mess is done. We can all see what’s coming and as long as Otis is in charge no outcome will be positive for the Magic
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
A simple question
What has Dwight Howard said through all this? Chris Paul has been a little more vocal, but as for Dwight? If these rumors continue to swirl, isn’t it possible that he might not leave? Get what I’m saying?
OTIS.... ggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I’ve been sick of these Dwight stories since the end of last season and every time I read one it makes me sad. Otis… thanks for ruining my beloved Magic. I would never trade Dwight unless he says he will not resign, and if he is thinking that I feel he should have the balls and the decency to tell team management. I hope he does not prove me wrong and Lebron us as I would not like to hate him after so many years of adoring him.
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Only team that makes sense is the Clips
Bledose and Gordon. Plus the two first round picks(I’m not going to lie, I love that Minnesota pick) and if we could get Philly involved for a three team trade where they get Kaman expiring and our first round pick for 2012 or 2013(preferably 2013) we would be straight. Because then we can hold New Jersey ransom and offer them tpe to absorb Deron Williams, for Eric Bledsoe, and Minny 1st round pick. Why the hell would Williams stay in Jersey with no going there? We would throw out Williams, Gordon, and Iggy with Anderson, harper, around them. Aside from losing Dwight, any downside?
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
The downside?
We have Otis as our GM. At this point, he might just be trolling the entire Central Florida region.
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Not to mention of all the teams, the Clippers are probably the least offensive for him to go to.
Griffin and Howard would probably win six straight championships together, and cripple the Lakers, becoming LA’s new “it” team.
If he has to leave, he might as well destroy the team that destroyed us back in 96.
And 2009.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 2, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, the Clippers would be my 2nd favorite team.
And we’d only have to play Dwight twice a year to limit my pain.
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The Clippers are the best option.
Gordon, Jordan and Bledsoe, the Wolves first pick, the Clippers first pick.
They include Kaman in the trade to a third team (getting Thaddeus Young from the Sixers would be amazing) or they send Kaman to the Magic so the Magic can trade him or let him expire.
They take Turk and Duhon as well. And the Magic amnesty Arenas.
Total rebuild with a young core and cap space. The Magic will draft a new Hall of Fame star soon enough to make us forget Dwight.
Chances are the Magic will not just “draft another hall of fame star soon enough”. Players like Howard come around once or twice a decade.
When his career is over, Howard will more than likely be an ‘all time great’, not just a mere hall of famer. You have to go all in to keep him…. Have To!
by Justin85 on Dec 2, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Young may be a free agent next season... we'd neeed cap space though
With the 15th pick, the Miami Dolphins select John Stamos....'s brother
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Young is a RFA this year.
He’ll be under contract next year.
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I'm still hoping we find a way to clear space for Paul
and that’s enough to keep Dwight. But I should probably stop that, it is probably just false hope. Otis could never pull that off even if Dwight would stay in that scenario.
Yugly.
What doesnt make sense?
Again that is if you have to trade Dwight. Clips are the best option. Acquire assets from Clips. They take Turk. Orlando gets Gordon(who actually would like to play on the east coast so his patents in Indiana can watch him I’ll find the link later) Bledsoe, Aminu and two first round picks. And the Minny pick is more than likely to be high. If you can get Philly to come in and shed Iggy while getting an expiring contract and a draft pick, preferably the Clips since in theory they would be pretty good and we can’t trade ours anyways, what is not to like? $11 tpe that can be used to get a center, Nene or Chandler or Jordan, and Orlando moves forward. Again if you have to ship Dwight out, the Clips represent the best option.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
oh ok. nevermind
I agree 100%. Especially because of the Christmas game and all star. My mistake, but that was just a trade idea in the event we have to trade Dwight.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I'd be absolutely shocked if Otis Smith trades Howard before the season starts.
If only because the thought of him showing up to the 2012 All Star Game wearing another team’s jersey would probably irreversibly turn Orlando fans against the franchise.
by Jtyler998 on Dec 2, 2011 9:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just against Otis.
Well, and the management team who allowed him to be employed this long. HOW HAS HE NOT BEEN FIRED?!
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I'm dreading the fact that Otis will be rebuilding this team
If Dwight’s leaving and we’re going to rebuild, we should start with a new GM rather than the one that botched it last time.
Yugly.
Otis is an idiot
I don’t blame him for the Lewis contract. We had 3 great years with him and he was only going to sign a max deal. I don’t blame him for the VC trade because just about everyone wanted him. It was at that trade everything went down hill. VC was just too friggin old. Then we go and make the trade with the Suns. Why? Why not just use those pieces for CP3? Now if we try to pull of a deal for CP3, we’ll be left with nothing except for CP3 and Dwight (Assuming their smart enough to not take on a Hedo or Arenas contract).
December 18, 2010. The day the Magic took a leap into the void.
The more time passes, the more messed up those trades look.
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by North of the South on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
One thing about Otis
He isn’t gunshy about a big trade OR taking on Salary (the latter more a result of the owners). He should go all out to get Dwight a running mate (CP3, Iggy, Monta, etc) or trade him BEFORE the season starts. The Melo-Drama laid out a blueprint of what you don’t want hanging over your season. Your leverage decreases drastically in-season; make the best move you can from a position of power.
Call both the Clips and the Thunder. Clips give Gordon, Jordan, Aminu, and picks for Dwight or the Thunder gives Westbrook, Harden, Harden’s beard, Perk, and Picks.
It's gotta be Paul
I want either a great team contending for the title, or a garbage heap contending for lottery balls. I’ve lost all tolerance for mediocrity. Having a .500 team scrubbing for wildcard spots is the worst.
by MagicPhan on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Given the financial situation the Magic are in, I'm coming down that way as well.
Though, and I hate to sound more naive than I actually feel, I still feel that if every player on this team — as it stands right now — played up to their historic levels, the Magic would still be a great team. If everyone elevated their game, even just a little, another run might be possible. The peices the Magic had for their Finals run wasn’t exactly a “championship-level team” either, and they were right there.
But…that senario would require a level of play from the entire roster that I’m doubtful we can expect.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 2, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, yeah.
But I even meant on a more basic level than “top of their career” level.
Hedo has a really unique skillset that suits the Magic. His length/height, his deep shot, and his playmaking ability are a great compliment to Howard and the Magic’s system. When he’s on his game, he’s dynamic and a joy to watch. But when he loses his confidence or starts second guessing himself he makes bad decisions with the ball and gives up on defense (which he needs to focus on because of his lack of athletic ability).
Q gives the Magic a great perimeter defender. And when he’s shooting his averages, he’s a deep threat who needs to be paid attention to. When he’s got his stroke and his confidence is up, he adds toughness the Magic otherwise lack. When his shot is off he’s a liability on offense that defenses can ignore. That drags down the offense, which in turn wears down the defense which is his best point in the first place.
Gil has amazing court vision, can make shots that just shouldn’t go in, and can just electrify the floor — even when he’s not in All-Star form. There were minor flashes of that last year, but they were few and far between. If he could sustain that energy and effort more consistantly, he’d be an absurdly dynamic 6th man. When he’s off, he’s a black hole of bad shots and poor defense.
The list goes on and on. Ryno and his frustrations on defense. Bass acting like a 2nd option and trying to shoot out of slumps. Duhon playing like Duhon.
Howard and JJ are the two most consistantly solid players not just on this team, but in the NBA. They show up every night, and even if they are having an off game, they keep fighting. Nelson is right there, but he sometimes forces shots in a slump. But Howard and JJ — rock solid mindsets.
But if everyone was playing on the right side of their game, this team would be really, really good. Gil would be drawing more fouls and racking up assists. Hedo would be confounding people with his 3s and amazing lobs to Howard. Q would shut down the likes of LeBron and Kobe while still drawing attention at the offensive end. Bass and Anderson would be battling it out for most deserving of a starting PF spot. And so on, and so on…
But instead, against ATL in the first round last year, we saw what felt like nearly the whole team fall onto the wrong side of the line. They couldn’t get their heads straight, forced plays/shots out of frustration and desperation. They allowed every flaw to be exaggerated and every strength to be diminished — they lost faith in themselves and what they could do.
That sour taste is also what is driving a lot of the freakout by Magic fans. This was the same team that had an amazing run when the first got together in the Fall of last year. They seemed poised to make another run. If they all SHOW UP and play ball the way they can, this team can beat any team in the league on any given night and they could challange any team in the league in a 7-game series. But. And it’s a big BUT. But, they all have to show up, and they all have to have faith. That’s not easy, especially with all that’s happened and all that’s going on right now.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 2, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that the potential of each of the Magic players is higher than what the 10-11 playoffs results indicate.
Chemistry is usually the ingredient that ignites those peak or above average performances you speak of. Last years team did not have any chemistry; be it for lack of playing time or deeper issues.
I personally think something happened in the locker room in the playoffs. I haven’t seen anything printed to that effect, but how else can you explain the top to bottom subpar performances and uneven intensity from everyone on the team (including JJ).
Dwight was the only one that seemed to be in tune. I would not be surprised if his impending departure and pressure for everyone to perform OR ELSE he leaves – a knife to the throat so to speak – destabilized or killed any chemistry and very likely created some resentment.
I disagree about JJ.
Recall he was coming back from injury, so maybe I cut him a little slack. But I still remember him trying to pump people up after he two-hand dunked in game 6…
I do wonder how the tone around here and in the media will be if everyone shows up and plays with real heart and intensity. If they do so, we could see one heck of a season.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Dec 3, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll never forget seeing Redick dunk. As much as I like him, I never thought it was possible.
It kinda pumped me up some… Like when I saw little Darrell Armstong dunk many years ago!
by Justin85 on Dec 3, 2011 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm still trying to understand all this
I’m hearing all about Howard leaving and how he could go to NJ. But everyone knows Deron Williams is going to test free agency just like Howard might but that doesn’t seem to matter. Why can’t Orlando try to test the Nets and trade for Williams instead? I don’t get it? Where are those rumors?
They don't mesh well with ESPN wanting everyone to be in a larger market
;)
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by JeffShann3 on Dec 3, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Several reasons
The Nets have $16 million in cap space and a very tradeable assets in Brook Lopez and two 1st round picks in this years draft. Also, the Nets simply will not trade Williams. They gave up a lot to get him, the reputation of the Gm, Owner, and the new Brooklyn brand are on the line if he leaves. The Nets have remained confident they will retain Williams (stated as recent as Thursday by GM Billy King). I don’t know what justifies their confidence b/c Deron hasn’t publicly committed to anything, but none-the-less it seems they would rather let Deron walk after hearing their final sales pitch and pleas then to trade him.
If only Otis had the guts to do that...
I love the way NJ is handling it! It’s go big or go home and we should be doing the same thing. There is little sense in dealing Howard to be mediocre. The Cavs are proving that it’s not a bad route as they seem like they are going to reload fairly quickly.
How do we know Otis hasn't already done it
If there’s one thing everyone should have learned by now it’s that Otis doesn’t run his mouth about what he’s trying to do. Almost every trade he’s done we’ve heard about it when we wake up in the morning and read about what went down.
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by malenko on Dec 3, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i don’t think deron is one who is crazy about playing in a big market. he played in utah for several seasons and was fine. i got a feeling he will resign with jersey next season. brook lopez is a nice player. they can build around those two guys.
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Can we use the amnesty
any time during the season? or does it have to be before the season starts
Hedo is the player who should get the most heat for our first round exit, not Arenas
by supermantotherescue on Dec 3, 2011 1:40 AM EST reply actions
Not sure if the details have changed since this article was written, but Larry Coon thinks it can only be used in the offseason.
• 2011 CBA: One player can be waived prior to the start of any season (only one player can be amnestied during the agreement, and contracts signed under the new CBA are not eligible). The salary of the waived player will not count toward the salary cap or luxury tax. Teams with cap room can submit competing offers to acquire an amnestied player (at a reduced rate) before he hits free agency and can sign with any team.
looks like dwight wants to go to lakers
While Kupchak remained guarded with his answers, Lakers forward Matt Barnes was much more open when asked about the rumors surrounding his former teammate Howard.
"You know, I’ve been hearing Dwight. I’ve been hearing Baron [Davis]. I’ve been hearing stuff a lot lately," Barnes said. "I’ve talked to both of those guys and they want to be here, so we’ll see what happens."
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
i know it would suck to lose a player like bynum. but i don’t think the clippers offer the best assets. gordon is a very good player, but he is not a shooting guard that you can build around. i think he’s too small. he’s definitely a nice complimentary player, a guy who can give you 20 a game. but he’s someone you want if you have dwight on your team. jordan isn’t going to be a premiere player/big man in this league. i’ve seen the kid play, and while he’s super athletic, he lacks great size, consistency and above all, talent.
i personally believe that a package involving bynum is still the best offer out there. bynum has been the 4th option on a championship team. give him a chance to be the go-to guy and he can conceivably average 24 points a game, 12 rebounds. the knock on his is motor—as in not always running full speed. but i think if he were to be traded, he’d welcome it with open arms and play with a chip on his shoulder to show the nba world that he can be an elite center. we’ll see what happens.
it sounds as though at this point, otis smith has conceded defeat in trying to bring back howard. i think it’s good. you never want to keep a player who doesn’t want to play for you. but if howard somewhat still wants to stay, then smith should try to pry chris paul from hornets or deron williams from jersey and bring either one to orlando.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
i mean: i know it would suck to lose a player like HOWARD.
"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
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"They’re a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."
by chaucer on Dec 4, 2011 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Geez, Fans of their own team submitting offers- Imagine that.
"I'm a little dysfunctional
You're the problem, Please don't awakin me
And I'm that way cause back in the day
Most have forsaken me"
by 4QB on Dec 3, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
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