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Magic GM Otis Smith says he probably won't sign a big man

Otis Smith told me that there is a "good possibility" that he will stand pat and not even bring in a big man to play behind Dwight Howard this season.

"Why do I need one?" Smith asked.

How about matching up with the Boston Celtics in the playoffs? The Celtics have an assortment of bigs: Kevin Garnett, Shaquille O'Neal, Jermaine O'Neal, Kendrick Perkins (currently rehabbing from injury.)

"See, I Iook at it the other way. Why do they have all of those bigs? To match up with us, to match up with Dwight," he said.

[SNIP]

 

This is crazy! Boston have 4 huge men. If Howard gets into foul trouble, like these past games with 3 fouls in the second quarter.. How many points will we get in the paint? 40? 50? These teams goal to win against Orlando, is get Dwight Howard in foul trouble.. So far, they are getting to the goal with Dwight having 9/12 fouls in the last 2 games. Trade C. Duhon and/or Q. Richardson for a big man, so we can get those rebounds at least. Nothing more.

Now, could someone say this to him for me, please. Thanks

 

 

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true.. lol.. but for someone in the bench.

orlando needs a rebounder.. points is for the others

by bimbim3000 on Jan 9, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

But who on the bench?

No one will take J-Will since he has arthritic knees and is beyond done. Arenas is untradeable and is our best backup PG. Redick and Ryno are not worth giving up to get someone who will only spell Dwight a maximum of 13 minutes most nights. Clark has some value but I think Otis likes him as a future piece. No one wants Malik Allen and I doubt Orton would be able to net us an upgrade.

We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!

JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!

Ryno's back and doing his thing!

Bass Master looking like a new player this year!

Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!

J-Rich giving the offense some life!

Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!

Meer being Stan's extension on the court!

by GameManager on Jan 9, 2011 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

new york were going to trade richardson and duhon for ronny turiaf. but since they are in melo talks.. they are on hold with orlando.

by bimbim3000 on Jan 9, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Not that I'm aware of.

I remember Otis was trying to send them Duhon and Q-Rich for Turiaf but New York declined.

We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!

JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!

Ryno's back and doing his thing!

Bass Master looking like a new player this year!

Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!

J-Rich giving the offense some life!

Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!

Meer being Stan's extension on the court!

by GameManager on Jan 9, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

and the same trade for tony battie? what happened to that

by bimbim3000 on Jan 9, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Battie is more attainable but...

I doubt Philly would want Duhon and/or Q-Rich (salaries have to match up first) for him. Philly is pretty stacked at the perimeter positions.

We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!

JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!

Ryno's back and doing his thing!

Bass Master looking like a new player this year!

Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!

J-Rich giving the offense some life!

Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!

Meer being Stan's extension on the court!

by GameManager on Jan 9, 2011 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Battie has a shoulder injury.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember they will still have Allen and Orton.

However bad Allen is, and however undeveloped Orton is, they can combine for 5-8 mins at the start/end of a quarters without throwing away a game. The Magic technically have 6 big men, total. Howard, Bass, Anderson, Clark, Allen, and Orton. Howard should be EXPECTED to play 36-40 mins. a night in the playoffs. This means only 8-12 min. needs to be filled by the other 5 guys. It’s not that far of a stretch to think that the Magic don’t “need” another big.

I still think if they can find a decent veteran for cheap who can basically be better than Allen and allow Bass to focus on being a PF, then go for it. It doesn’t mean I think they have no chance of winning without one, though.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 9, 2011 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

Well, what is Otis going to do?

I mean, I think he’s going to sign someone. I think this is just Otis being difficult. But what do you want him to say? I think it’s apparent that we’re not going to deal any of our 8 rotation guys for a backup big man, and the guys beyond those 8 aren’t worth anything in a trade.

(I still say they should pick up Mensah-Bonsu. But that’s just me.)

You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.

by 3.3seconds on Jan 9, 2011 1:27 AM EST reply actions  

What is he going to do?

Exactly, and you have answered it nicely. Maybe he should have thought about this shortfall before agreeing to trade Gortat away. Maybe he shouldn’t have signed Duhon or Q-Rich assuming that we are fine and only inches away from a championship.

by Matt1325 on Jan 9, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

Without signing Q with the team we had, only Pietrus was a SF. You can argue they should have gone with Lewis at the 3. But Stan was never really committed to that. But he had to trade Gortat. There was no he was getting JRich and Turk back without trading him.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jan 9, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we please stop with this odd trade machine proposals?

Also, Atlanta most likely won’t trade interdivision.

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by 4QB on Jan 9, 2011 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.. I've stopped looking at those links

Well you also have to think.. why take on more salary (even if it is minimum) and then ruin a good thing going on i.e. 8 man rotation

As bad as Malik Allen is, there is no one in the free-agent pool that has spent an off-season and training camp with the Magic.

And Daniel Orton? I don’t really expect him to get any minutes to be honest… nothing’s changed with Otis in that regard. He’ll probably be the 13th man in the roster come playoff time, unless he starting ripping apart the D-League

by RL Magic on Jan 9, 2011 5:04 AM EST up reply actions  

but the thing is when Dwight comes out

If they keep Fat shag or Jermaine in the gmae with Brandon at Center we are a much faster team. I believe he means we will not go out and trade a rotational player. He most likely would just pick up a big bodied veteran for foul purposes, it isnt essential to the Magic to get a great backup, I mean Dwight, and our TEAM defense, and STAN VAN GUNDY, sure made Gortat look like a stud for years and look at him now. We will get a big man for special cases but not at anyones expense.

by Vanek on Jan 9, 2011 10:22 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Don't think we need a big man as much as everyone says

And about the Boston depth. You can only play one of them at a time. Seriously. Shaq and Perkins cant be on the court. Shaq and Jermaine can’t be. Jermaine and Perkins cant be. Yes I understand about KG, but he plays PF. The height that concerns me is the Lakers. Due to the flexibility of their Odom and Gasol. They cover three positions between them. The Celtics just have bigs to foul Dwight. Orton is gonna have to develop quicker than we all expected. Guys it is for 5 minutes. Literally two minutes in second and two minutes to start the 4th. We will be ok. Don’t let the media fool you. Cleveland didn’t worry about LeBron’s backup. The Lakers don’t worry about Kobe’s backup. And Otis agrees with me. If Dwight gets into foul trouble we are eff’ed anyways. We will be fine.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jan 9, 2011 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

Because

LeBron James was just as prone to foul trouble as Dwight.

Oh, wait.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 9, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a new twist for Otis Smith in defending his recent moves.

He knows that he doesn’t have tradable assets, so instead of admitting to the blunder in trading Gortat, he is saying – in essence – that bigger teams would have to get smaller to match up with us. The problem is that any time Dwight is off the floor we don’t have a solid defender and shot blocker, and that opens up the middle of our defense. There are nights that we could get away with using Bass and Anderson and out-gun other teams, but that is not the right formula for winning championship. In short, size matters!

by Matt1325 on Jan 9, 2011 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

sorry but trading gortat was no blunder.

are you watching us win 9 games in a row.turkey has turned out to be very good for us. j rich is perfect for our system.not to mention the future clark “can” have.i’ll take that trade any day of the week.

by magicman775 on Jan 9, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i have to agree w/magicman775

the proof is in the pudding…….great trade…..and yeah…..gortat was actually booed the other nite….

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by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Size matters

When you don’t have the best player with size. Listen Dwight is superior to every big the Celtics have. Therefore they need bodies to match up with him and to foul him. It was not a blunder to trade Gortat, because he is not exactly lighting it up in Phoenix, while the Magic have won 9 in a row mostly via the blowout. Even if Gortat was here, he is no Dwight Howard and we would have struggled anyways. He is admitting nothing. Only stating the obvious: Dwight is the best center in the league and the Celtics got the size to matchup with them and the Lakers. That is all he is saying. You must have really loved the old team or something, because you keep implying these were bad trades. I am not asking in a smartass way or anything, but do you believe the old team would have won the 9 straight by the margin and were really title contenders?

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jan 9, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt1325 hates Otis. Anything Otis says will be interpreted as saying Otis F-ed up.

Just let him rant here and on OMD. Even Philip Rossman-Reich is tiring of him:

“I think this team is better than the one we had at the beginning of the trade. And that is all you can ask for from Otis. He improved the team. "

and that is thetruth

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I refer you to Redfield's post, who said it better than I could.

Why is it so difficult to understand that we need Dwight on the floor to be competitive in big play-off games? Dwight needs a reliable back-up for another reason, as well; piece of mind. He needs that piece of mind to play firmly and aggressively on both ends of the floor, especially on defensive end whereby the calls could become subjective favoring the opposing offensive player.

by Matt1325 on Jan 9, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Give Dwight a good backup and he plays agressive and commits fouls of aggression.

You don’t understand human nature. If he has to protect the paint on his own, he will be more aware of fouling, if he has a backup he get careless.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure that's been proven to be true so far with Dwight.

He’s been in foul trouble a good bit recently, and god knows there’s no backup right now.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 10, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree we need a better backup center.

But we also needed another playmaker, and a backup PG, and to get younger. Do you care to tell me that 10-15 minutes of backup center play is more likely to tip games than all that?

And furthermore, do you care to tell me that all those problems are going to be easy to solve with the mid-level exception in the offseason?

You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.

by 3.3seconds on Jan 10, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sorry that you were MIA while the discussions on recent trades’ pros and cons were going on.

You have framed your questions smartly, but it is not that simple to come up with proper answers. Basically, it is all about trade-offs in different scenarios, and it all starts with quantification of essential elements while each are given proper values and weights – however subjective and arbitrary – and then the scenarios are compared with each other, sometimes with the application of qualitative assessment. Setting the financial considerations aside, the following simplistic model summarizes our assessment within the confinement of the context of your posed questions:

What is the value and weight of adding another play-maker (1 – 10)? Example: value (5) x weight (5) = 25.
What is the value and weight of a back-up PG (1 – 10)? A side note is that the candidate could have been better selected to start with, but that is irrelevant in our assessment task.
What is the value and weight of back-up center (1 – 10)? Here we have to consider Dwight’s being foul prone, thinness of the frontline due to Rashard’s trade, and the fact that we cannot afford considerable drop when he is off the floor, in major play-off games.

This is just a simple model addressing the trade-offs on elements which you have brought up in comparison with back-up center, which is also relevant to this thread. In a broader model many other elements have to be valued and weighted, appropriately (i.e., each player’s value – both from offensive and defensive standpoint – in positive numbers for players acquired and negative numbers for players lost). I know that establishing an accurate model with proper values and weights is an arduous job, and I for one do not claim to have the time to get down to it.

In a less sophisticated assessment of recent trades, the question would come down to many qualitative elements, most important of all, the trade-off on offense versus defense in the framework of close competitors. In this context, we have to be mindful that the short-term objective is winning the championship while the long-term objective is retaining the primary pieces of the roster, mainly Dwight. It is funny that typically it’s the other way around. We don’t intend to play the GM role, since we are not privy to insider information, but we can compare the two scenarios in front of us, however subjectively, with the intention to insert objectivity as much as we can via quantifying as much as we can. Is it a perfect process? Certainly not, but we cannot stop pursuing some stated goals simply because we cannot reach perfection. In essence, any assessment is better than no assessment.

by Matt1325 on Jan 10, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know.

Why is it that as soon as I decide I need to take a break, that’s when the Magic decide to make their biggest move(s) in years?

But to me, it’s not a matter of close analysis, because these deals have so clearly improved the team that it’s not close.

I say this with no disrespect to Vince Carter — my main regret with regard to the deal is that all the people who were wrong about him now have free rein to keep being wrong.

And I’m not saying the backup center thing isn’t relevant, and I’m not saying that I’m sold on Arenas. (I’m optimistic that he contributes even without his shot improving, but I’m not convinced it will improve.)

I’m just saying that in my opinion, it’s night and day here. The problems this deal solved (most notably the lack of ball movement beyond Jameer) were way larger than the problems it opens up. The notion that the team didn’t improve, let alone got worse, don’t hold up to even the most cursory inspection.

You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.

by 3.3seconds on Jan 10, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

While right now the team looks great, I tend to believe that we should wait until mid/late February before we could run a reliable assessment.

By then we should have a sizable sample, not in terms of games-played by the team but rather minutes-played by players to have a better idea where we stand. Also by then, three other variables would come into better focus:

1 – The gaudy offensive numbers would expectedly lean towards a sustainable median;
2 – We would be able to find out if the team can play consistent defense, not in spurts but rather in reasonable number of minutes per game, and;
3 – We would know for sure if this rejuvenation of Hedo is for real, since this version is way above 2008-2009 player – who was not really that good – and comparable to 2007-2008 Hedo or even better based on the small sample of games on hand.

by Matt1325 on Jan 10, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I think a couple bad games (and the effects of a bunch of garbage time) have led to some unwarranted concern about the defense.

I also think there’s nothing unsustainable about what this team is doing on offense either. The only one who’s clearly doing things he’s not capable of in the long run is Redick. Maybe Hedo — I think his scoring could be sustainable, but 5 APG seems like more of a reasonable long-term goal than 6.5. (And what do you know, if you subtract that 17-assist game, you end up just barely above 5 APG. So it’s hard to say he’s doing anything that unrealistic.)

And conversely, there are guys (Arenas, Richardson, even Anderson) whose offensive performance over the last 11 games could very easily improve over the next 11 and beyond.

I mean, maybe the Magic are overachieving. But it’s hard to pinpoint a lot of spots where they’re overachieving — most of them are capable of scoring in the 57-60% TS range, and sure enough, that’s exactly where they are. And if the ball movement holds up, I see no reason to believe that’ll change.

You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.

by 3.3seconds on Jan 10, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This is how I see things too.

Hedo will have between 5 and 6 assists per game, it’s the TOs that he needs to take care of as he did vs Dallas. No reason for the ball movement to stop with this roster.

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by 44792212 on Jan 11, 2011 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you on offense at large with some caveats.

1 – We cannot maintain an average scoring in the range of 105-110. I think, it would come down to a range of 102-105, which means that we have to tighten up our belts on defense, certainly on some nights.
2 – While I don’t worry about Hedo’s shooting averages, his historic shooting inconsistency from game to game is troublesome, which may cause us losing games which we are not expected to lose. That is important because ideally we want to secure the first seed to avoid playing both MIA and BOS in the play-offs. I admit, however, that is thinking too far ahead.
3 – You are right about potentials for offensive improvements. I think a factor which comes into finding a back-up center – sooner rather than later – is relieving Bass and Anderson from Center duties so that their – still somewhat untapped – potentials in manning PF position would be further realized.

by Matt1325 on Jan 11, 2011 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

". . . relieving Bass and Anderson from Center duties . . ."

I agree with Matt’s perspective on this point strongly.

I think this could be a really important part of the argument for some sort of back-up: even if it seems that Ryan and Brandon can do the job, wouldn’t it be nice to be able to spell them a little so they can be who we want them to be?

I’m not saying a back-up is a must-have, or some sort of panacea, but it seems like (to me) that it could be an important piece down the road.

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by Redfield on Jan 11, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I still say there is no need to weaken the rotation by bringing in a 2nd rate big man.

The Magic have 8 very talented players in the current rotation. Bringing in a backup big will reduce Bass and Anderson minutes. Over the last 10 games Bass has averaged 27 and Anderson 23. If that few minutes wears them out then something is seriously wrong with the conditioning.

I think a few people might agree that the Magic are not bringing in a big with near the talent of the current 8 rotation players. If you buy that, then you may also conclude adding an inferior player to the rotation would only hurt, not help.

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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 11, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

Let’s agree to disagree. Fin.

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by Redfield on Jan 11, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, I disagree.

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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 11, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

We cannot maintain an average scoring in the range of 105-110. I think, it would come down to a range of 102-105…

Via a decrease in efficiency, or a decrease in pace?

You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.

by 3.3seconds on Jan 12, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Pace, in my view.

In the trade-off between faster pace and better defense, coach Van Gundy has typically favored better defense. Therefore, as our half-court offense improves – through more practice – the pace would be reduced, except if Stan transitions to a run-n-gun coach, out of the blue?!

by Matt1325 on Jan 12, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Stan has been talking about pushing the pace for the last two

seasons. And he said that in the early after trade games that he was happy with the pace. I’m not saying it won’t be reduced, just pointing to the fact that Stan likes it when the team runs a bit to get easy baskets.

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by 44792212 on Jan 12, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting tangentially related quote from Marc Stein:
Most interesting element of the Magic’s nine straight wins by eight points or more? They’ve averaged 16.1 fast-break points in those wins. In its first 28 games, Orlando was the league’s worst running team at 7.9 ppg.

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by Redfield on Jan 12, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

while we're still n°1 at allowing fast breaks from opponents.

Only 8 in the last three games which is also best in the league.

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by 44792212 on Jan 12, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

well yes.

The team that allowed their opponent to score the most fast break points in the last three are the Hawks with 18. Plus, in the last three (and the season) we’re second behind Boston at allowing the fewest points in the paint. Finally, our defensive efficiency in the last three games is n°10 in the league. It’s at defending the three that we kinda suck right now.

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by 44792212 on Jan 12, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

no, but I wouldn't be surprised if we keep a high

scoring avarage either. Stan will get the most of the roster. I’m saying that the pace doesn’t necesseraly ruin our defense. And we still run a bunch of P&R which are half-court.

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by 44792212 on Jan 12, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The issue is Dwight's foul trouble.

If history holds true to form, at some point in the playoffs Dwight is going to pick up early fouls and have to sit. It doesn’t matter if the fouls are called correctly, or if Dwight is emotional, etc., there will probably come a time when he will be out of large stretches of the game because of foul trouble.

I think the question is then: Can we still play adequate defense with Dwight on the bench? Based only on my own observations thus far, I think the answer is no. We need a big to get in there and absorb contact, use their own fouls, and serve as a deterrent to paint-scoring.

I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.

I'm just saying: What if "being right" and "having the last post" as an anonymous personality on a sports blog aren't really big deals?

by Redfield on Jan 9, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

So we need a dominate, shot blocking big who can clog the lane and hold the fort on defense.

Or we could get 4 of them like the Celtic and Heat. Teams trying to counter Orlando have tied up the market for cheap bigs.

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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Otis is waiting for buyouts I think

hopefully either Jeff Foster or Dalembert are bought out and sign with the Magic

by GoMagic000 on Jan 9, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Dalembert has to be traded.. not bought out

The Kings want to save money.. so offer them the TPE? I doubt Dalembert’s going to be important in their long term planning anyway, due to DMC

by RL Magic on Jan 10, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i was just going to mention his contract

Just one mans opinion...

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by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Granted, there aren't many good prospects out there.

You’ve certainly got a point. And for the record, I don’t think we can get a dominant big-sorry if that’s what it seemed like I was suggesting.

But, with the amount we’ve overspent on some other players, it seems odd to refuse to pick up some 10-day contract to see if it would work out and be the “clog the lane” guy.

I don’t think we’re going to get a decent 5 at this point, so we have to settle. But it would be awesome to be wrong.

I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.

I'm just saying: What if "being right" and "having the last post" as an anonymous personality on a sports blog aren't really big deals?

by Redfield on Jan 9, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Bass does a good imitation of a 250 pond guy trying to clog the lane, at least for a few minutes.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

meh

Just one mans opinion...

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by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

like i said. we need a big man to get rebounds and if he can. some blocks. but i think otis smith will change his mind if we get hammered by boston. i hope no, just bet 20$ and i really hate boston.. the problem is that the 9 games orlando has won are easy teams.. boston.. they were without rondo.. mavs without dirk.. san antonio.. are like falling down. and they played the night before. that was the excuse… anyways i dont buy it… knicks was the best game. and they won by 9. and isnt an elite team. the others are like non-playoffs teams.

sorry if i have some errors in my typing. my main laguage isnt english.

by bimbim3000 on Jan 9, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a shame that Boston, San Antonio, Dallas and New York are not going to make the playoffs.

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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mind what they get

Anderson play alright at center last night

by GoMagic000 on Jan 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

There was a difference between the first time after the trade when Chandler was dunking all alone

in like five straight posessions and last night.

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by 44792212 on Jan 9, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly, we may need another big, but nobody worth a tradable asset.

We have a 7 mil. trade exception, Bi-annual trade exception, there are options to add another body that can produce just as much as Gortat(Have u seen him in Pheonix). Our system made him look good and there isnt any reason why someone from d-league with a lot of energy cannot be a just-incase backup

by Vanek on Jan 9, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Let's face it...

Anyone we would receive in a trade for Duhon/ Q /J-Will will not be anything significant. If we sign anyone off the current list of available FA’s, he won’t be anything significant there either.

If Dwight is in foul trouble for a significant amount of time we probably won’t win many playoff games anyway, regardless of who we have in his place.

And please, before you respond to me with a “well we can trade JJ or J-Rich for a big” please stop and re-think that. If you choose to stick with that statement, well, my suggestion would be to visit this link http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

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by JeffShann3 on Jan 9, 2011 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think that we should trade JJ or JRich for a big, but I clicked on your link just to see what it was.

I suppose that there is my internet naivete a-shinin’ through.

On a serious note, I like most of your posts, but could you please not put up links like that anymore?

I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.

I'm just saying: What if "being right" and "having the last post" as an anonymous personality on a sports blog aren't really big deals?

by Redfield on Jan 9, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

suggestion....dont click on links that you know nothing about

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

on these blogs.......

you never know what will come up with someones link……and for those of us with a more…..(hmmm, how should i say it……mature? no…..moral? no……oh wait, i got it……sophisticated…..yeah that’s it) sophisticated sense of humor, we ought not click on one unless we know them very well….

some of us can be nice…..sweet though?……i dont think any of us here would admit to being sweet….lol

btw…..i like your sig :P

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll get another BIG later..

My personal opinion is that Otis isn’t in a rush cuz like he said, we don’t need another BIG NOW. I think he’s gonna try to pull a last minute and sign a fresh healthy Rasheed and deactivate Allen. Then we’ll have D12, BASS, WALLACE, RYNO, ORTON, CLARK.

by DonDannyPR on Jan 9, 2011 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

Wallace retired. He cannot come back this season.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 10, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes he's retired...

Yes I know he’s retired. Which gives him an opportunity to sign with any team if a team calls him up…. Obviously, for Rasheed to come back from retirement, he’ll sign with a championship contender. I honestly don’t think Rasheed wanted to go thru the whole season for another ring. He’s chillin, healthy staying in shape, getting ready for a contender that needs a BIG to call him up. Right now Orlando and Miami need a BIG. Otis better jump on hitting that speed dial to Rasheed b4 Riley does.

by DonDannyPR on Jan 10, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was about to agree with you, and I looked around for NBA retirement rules.

I found them…but I also found articles specifically mentioning that Wallace was waived. Therefore he wouldn’t be under contract…therefore he would be free to unretire and play with a team of his own choosing. Right? Unless he made some sort of special binding agreement as a condition of his contract buyout.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 10, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

we will have a lane clogger with 6 fouls before the playoffs.....

i would love to see an actual 7 footer on our team…..instead of 6’10" with sneakers and hair………we all know dwight is not really 6’11" dont we?………oh, and smith is way too smart to trade one of our rotation guys…..

Just one mans opinion...

"We will pick 2 corners within the first 4 rounds" - 2009
"We will have 4 new linebackers via FA and the draft" - 2010

by MagicDolphin on Jan 10, 2011 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Next you are going to say Jameer is not 6 feet tall!

And that there is no credit fairy.

Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 10, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

We do need a 10-12 min. legit 7ft lane clogger for the playoffs. That’s why I say Otis should pull 1 more trigger and then I think we have a chance not only getting past Boston and Mia… but win it all.

Bass and J-Rich for Zach Randolph and 7’3" Thabeet…
9 man Playoff rotation: D12, Z-Bo, Hedo, JJ, Nelson, Arenas, Ryno, Q-Rich, Thabeet

by DonDannyPR on Jan 10, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Why give up a legit scorer for a guy who is just a slightly better rebounding version of Bass?

and a center that only blocks shots?

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by 4QB on Jan 11, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Earl Barron is 7 foot. So is Kwame Brown. and Hasheem Thabeet.

Do you want those bums in a Magic uniform? Give me a 6’9 center with a massive wingspan and pogo stick leaping ability any day.

Anyways height can be overrated, especially when they have no mobility and actual skill.

And ‘lane clogger’? All I’m picturing is 3-second defensive and offensive violations, getting in the way of J-Rich/Gil/Jameer when they’re driving in the lane.

by RL Magic on Jan 10, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Kwame Brown, to be honest

He’s a competent rebounder and he knows where to put his body on defense.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 11, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends how far they sink out of playoff contention, I think

And how much they can save with a buyout. If they fall out of the playoff race and can buy out Nazr, especially, for about half his contract, I think they’d do it. Maybe not Brown because he’s not paid as much.

Of course, in the East, unless the Bucks and Pacers go on a tear, it’s pretty likely the Bobcats will hang about the 8th spot for most of the season, and could end up getting it if they play a few stretches of solid ball.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 11, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Possible buyout candidates

Sam Dalembert
Tony Battie
Jeff Foster
Nazr Mohammed
Dan Gadzuric
Ryan Hollins
Kwame Brown

I’d actually quite like to see Gadzuric in Orlando. Can’t have enough lanky white dudes and he can board, foul and block which is about all you can ask from a backup C.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 11, 2011 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Dalembert is ok as a backup.

Although I don’t like him because I feel he should have been suspended after elbowing Hedo in the last game against the 6ers. If Dwight is gonna get suspended suspend Dalembert. But hey he would be nice for 10-12 minutes.

Roll Bass and War Ryno for me

by Mateo9399 on Jan 11, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sammy D...................

Dalembert would it be the perfect backup for Howard, but due to his contract $$$$$$$, I think that Foster or Gadzu could get a easily buyout than Sammy D……… I hope Otis can get Dalember

by roger40 on Jan 12, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also worth noting

That when Otis Smith says something, it’s often an indication he’s planning/doing the complete opposite.

by eltharion_doa on Jan 11, 2011 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

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