Orlando Magic 117, Dallas Mavericks 107
by Evan Dunlap on Jan 9, 2011 12:15 AM EST
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PrintAfter yet another slow start, the Orlando Magic regrouped after halftime to outgun the Dallas Mavericks, outscoring Dallas, 66-50, after intermission to take home a 117-107 victory, tying its franchise best with nine straight. Hedo Turkoglu led the charge for the visitors, tallying 13 points, a career-high 17 assists, 5 steals, and a blocked shot; of those, 10 points, 5 assists, 2 steals, and the block came in the fourth period, in which Orlando took command of the game for good. It's fair to say Mister Fourth Quarter came back, at least for this evening.
But Turkoglu had help. Dwight Howard battled back from first-half foul trouble to lead the team with 23 points and 13 rebounds. Jason Richardson showed off his versatility as a scorer by pouring in 20 points on 7-of-12 shooting. Jameer Nelson drained three three-pointers in the third quarter to ignite Orlando's comeback. Gilbert Arenas scored 14 points off the bench and continued his encouraging progress in running the pick-and-roll. The team truly earned this victory.
If we are to credit the Magic from withstanding a 57-point first half from Dallas, which included a 17-point effort from DeShawn Stevenson, he of the jumper with corkscrewing backspin, we should also recognize the role they played in trailing by as much as 20 points in the first place. Poor pick-and-roll defense gave Mavericks ballhandlers Jason Kidd and Jason Terry options in initiating the offense, Turkoglu played far too off Stevenson time and again, and thus everything came easily. And with fouls saddling Howard, the Magic had no deterrent at the rim, further encouraging Dallas' wings to drive to the basket.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic | 93 | 126.4 | 60.5% | 23.5 | 26.3 | 15.1 |
| Mavericks | 94 | 113.7 | 61.8% | 17.1 | 17.6 | 18.1 |
| Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average; red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average. | ||||||
It's difficult to know what to make, precisely, of this Magic win. One point of view holds the Magic won't win many games conceding the sorts of numbers you see in the above table. The other side is, of course, they won't lose many games when they play this well offensively. Both statements are true, but which do you adopt in evaluating this game?
The defense for most of the game did not impress. Howard made solid plays indiviually--there are few centers who could close out on Jose Barea quickly and effectively enough to force a travel, as Howard did in the fourth quarter--but the Mavericks minimized his shot-blocking skill by lofting floater after floater over him, rather than fruitlessly going all the way to the rim with him in the game. Dallas moved the ball expertly and kept the Magic guessing in this way and I suppose you feel better knowing the Mavericks scored just 40 of their 107 points in the paint. But the Magic let the Mavericks get into a groove on their jumpers, which contributed to their hotter-than-Hell start.
But the Magic's offense... I'm not sure I can say enough about it. The high screen-and-roll with the 6-foot-10 Turkoglu handling; Howard screening and drawing defenders with him on the roll; and some combination of Ryan Anderson, Jameer Nelson, J.J. Redick, and Jason Richardson spread around the arc to await a kickout for three, is simply too lethal for a lot of teams to handle.
Dallas, which had yet to give up more than 103 points in a single game all season, did not take anything away in this set, which is why Orlando kept running it. Turkoglu could stop to launch an 18-footer from the top, he could drive to the basket for a layup, he could drive to the basket for a lob to Howard, he could stop on his way to the basket to throw a lob, and he has the shooters at his disposal if he needs them. The best way to defend it might just be to concede the pull-up jumper to Turkoglu. Dallas didn't even do that properly, fouling him twice on jumpers for three-point plays.
Appropriately enough, the first of those miscues led to Orlando's game-changing run. Following Turkoglu's initial three-point-play conversion, the Magic got treys from Anderson and Arenas, a pull-up jumper from Turkoglu, a three-pointer from Redick, a fastbreak layup from Arenas, and a lob-dunk from Howard. Turkoglu accounted for all the points during that run via a score or assist. After that final dunk, Orlando owned a 100-87 lead and the Mavericks had completely lost their composure. Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle literally went out of his way to draw an ejection, charging to midcourt with the ball in play to complain about the officials not calling Dallas for a foul it was trying to give on Howard. Moments later, Tyson Chandler earned a technical after picking up his sixth personal foul, an iffy bump of Arenas on a fast break.
In some ways, the Magic reminded me of the 2009 NBA Finalist team tonight with their solid offensive execution from the second period on, as they turned the ball over just 7 times during that span, and managed to score from just about everywhere on the court. The defense, clearly, is not up to par with that team yet.
In his 11th game since re-joining the club, Turkoglu has broken two career-best marks, with 5 steals in Monday's victory and his 17 assists tonight, which coincidentally also included 5 steals. Magic broadcaster David Steele mentioned that fact tonight and wondered how happy Turkoglu is to be back with Orlando. It's fair to say both sides are benefitting from the reunion, at least for the moment.
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We need a turkoglu appreciation thread
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
Agreed. I didn't realize how much I missed his goofy self.
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E.D., I don't know if you agree but it might be interesting and probably funny
to ask Hedo if he sees changes in Dwight and maybe even Stan after the two years he’s been away.
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I’m gonna post this cause I can and cause you all know it…but I took a lot of flack when I defended resigning Turk at any price. I was adamant about it and I’d like to say well over 80% of the readers of this site (and ED…BQR at the time) really didn’t mind seeing him leave. If there was any positive sentiment to it, some people wanted him back but not at an expensive pricetag. In any case, this site praised VC day after day. I agree that Turk didnt make it easier for Otis to resign him, but the backup plan failed. If it wasn’t for Ryan Anderson arriving as well and CLee not doing so well outside of Orlando…I give that particular move an F.
So I ask this, did none of you see the chemistry the guy had with Dwight? Why was it out of the question to question VC’s contributions to this team at mid-season last year when it was clear that he did not fill the void Turk had left? I mean not only was the guy subpar in terms of ability, I think he had a negative effect on the locker. The Magic lost (and now gained) a lot by losing Turk/adding VC and adding Turk/removing VC. Trust me on that one. I mean I write all this cause I think its funny that after the guy drops 17 assists and the team goes on a 9 game winning streak all the sudden everyone is amazed and its time to appreciate Turk. It is what it is I guess. But I told you so.
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Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
And Turk won 7 games all by himself, with no help from J-Rich or Gil.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I was part of those thinking that Hedo was kinda donne and I'm sure glad I was wrong.
On the other hand I think Otis was right at the moment and we’ll never know what would have happened if he kept the team. Maybe Hedo wouldn’t play with the same energy he does now or whatever. But I remember your post and you deserve a “I told you so”.
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Fair enough. I praised Otis Smith's move to bring in VC, and let Hedo go in the process.
We tend to ignore that the argument at the time was that:
1 – Hedo was not a scorer and we needed a scorer.
2 – We did not need the play-making of Hedo assuming that the play-making sum of Jameer and VC would be sufficient.
3 – We could not afford to sign both – Hedo and VC – so a choice had to be made. Considering that Hedo did not have a stellar season when he last played for the Magic, the choice was made in VC’s favor. That move attracted the praise of the majority of experts and fans, alike.
4 – VC did not do so well in his first year with the Magic – especially fizzling at the play-offs – but seemed more committed and in better shape this year.
5 – I am glad that Hedo is doing so well now, and hope that he continues to play at this high level moving forward.
Well just so you know
I still don’t like having Turk back for that price tag. He is playing well now, so that is good, I just hope he can keep it up for another 4 years…
Well this sure is one big cluster cuss...
Which I believe is the same length as Arenas, but with no options.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 10, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, ok.
Well, I don’t see him declining that kind of money post-CBA.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 10, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
That gives a chance for Gil to opt out then.
Maybe he will pull a Richard Jefferson and take less money for more years.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 10, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not to be nit pickey, but you cannot pay him less than the minimum.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 10, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Win.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 10, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think i'm just gonna watch the 2nd half of games
first half was was painful
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by AB's triple double on Jan 9, 2011 12:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The end of the second quarter was good, at least.
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I'm thinking about calling Ryno, Drain-O!
He hits some clutch 3’s at the best times, has a nice low post game, and is beastly on the offensive glass.
And I also think Turk never wanted to leave the Magic. 17 assists tonight?!? Just pure awesome! As good a passer that Vince may be, I couldn’t see that kind of performance out of him tonight. Not to mention, only 2 turnovers as he’s been turnover prone in the past.
We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!
JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!
Ryno's back and doing his thing!
Bass Master looking like a new player this year!
Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!
J-Rich giving the offense some life!
Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!
Meer being Stan's extension on the court!
That 2nd half was some of the most fun basketball that I've seen in a long time.
From a purely aesthetic standpoint, at least. Just great passing from Hedo. When he’s on, honestly, there might be only a handful of better passers in the league (Rondo, Nash, Paul, maybe LeBron… drawing a blank on anyone else).
All those floaters aren’t shots that teams want to throw up consistently. The Mavs were pretty lucky that so many went down, even considering it’s a pet shot for Barea, Terry, and Marion. Oh, not to mention Stevenson could hardly miss. Overall, it was definitely not a “good” defensive game, but as stated, the Magic’s offense was humming along on the second night of a back-to-back, so I can overlook it a bit.
Lastly, can someone tell Gilbert that if he’s going to shoot a rushed, poor shot to get a two-for-one at the end of a quarter, that he shouldn’t intentionally foul on the other end of the court?
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haha........WTF was up with that???
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by AB's triple double on Jan 9, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
The Mavericks' largest lead was 50-34 with 3:04 remaining in the first half
The Magic’s largest lead was 108-88 with 4:26 remaining in the game.
In that 22 1/2 minute span, the Magic outscored the Mavericks 74-38.
After starting out 1 for 9 on three pointers, the Magic made 13 of their next 21 three pointers before missing their final two attempts.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 9, 2011 1:04 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, that was a purely dominant 4th quarter.
Before the Magic let up, they outscored the Mavs 28-7.
We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!
JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!
Ryno's back and doing his thing!
Bass Master looking like a new player this year!
Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!
J-Rich giving the offense some life!
Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!
Meer being Stan's extension on the court!
I was at my friend's part tonight
but managed to sneak a couple glances at the gamescore. The first time I checked in wasn’t until about 3 minutes into the third when Jameer stole the ball and then drilled a three, getting us within 4, I believe. Then I didn’t get a chance again until a little bit of time was left in the fourth and we were up 15 :DDD I’m so happy we beat the Mavs and it’s always great seeing Hedo be Hedo again!
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part = party
there was alcohol
Excuse me while I whip this out.
by TheGiantSquid on Jan 9, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
oh shut up
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 9, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions
The Magic had a crazy great comeback, Hedo looks 2007-2008 awesome, and even Arenas was making shots.
The Celtics lost too, and Gator basketball won their conference opener. AND Seattle pulled off the crazy upset, AND Peyton Manning loses in the playoffs yet again? What a great sports night.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I was at the game
and here are a few things made the biggest impression on me:
1. Ryan Anderson is a flat-out smart player. He’s that guy in the pick-up game who always seems to be in the right place at the right time. He didn’t nail his spots every time tonight, but he was there more often than not by far. And he plays cool and even.
2. Hedo is one of the most compelling players on the floor to watch when he’s playing with the Magic. My wife and I waited the entire game for him to go off, and when he started moving in the fourth it was kind-of surreal.
3. I hate the way that Bass seems to have trouble moving the ball, but I love watching him barrel to the basket.
4. Chandler really ties that Dallas defense together-get him out, and that team is immediately more beatable.
Lastly, the amount they mike the rims in the AAC is ridiculous.
Here are my wife’s observations: 1. (speaking of locations) said “this was better than a Hawks game, but no way as much fun as a Magic game.” 2. said, “do the Magic play more than a half of basketball at a time?” 3. said, “that dog-trick show at half-time was the coolest part.”
Go Magic.
I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.
I'm just saying: What if "being right" and "having the last post" as an anonymous personality on a sports blog aren't really big deals?
7 players in double figures, and the other one with 9.
And all without cutting into Dwight’s totals.
It’s too early to say this, but I’m going to ay it anyway: this iis the Magic offense I’ve always wanted to see.
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
Our new Rafer Alston.
We have Clark Kent and Superman on the same team!
JJ Redick has become Captain Clutch!
Ryno's back and doing his thing!
Bass Master looking like a new player this year!
Gilbert Arenas making things happen off the bench!
J-Rich giving the offense some life!
Turkish Jordan is back and looking like a stud again!
Meer being Stan's extension on the court!
Pretty much.
Just need him to slap someone’s headband off now.
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Eddie House is still playing..
..now in Miami, perfect!
ORL★NDO, our time will come.
by magic12ball on Jan 9, 2011 2:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It looks inconsistent, my best guess is that some games he has his legs under him, some games it's not there. Conditioning
Maybe that’s why Otis challenged him to hit the weight rooms.
And talk about efficiency... all eight Magic players had more points than FGs attempted
All five starters shot at least .500 from the field.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 9, 2011 4:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm so glad Turk is back, he just fits this system so well..
…I know, I know…water is wet, pope still catholic.
Go Magic!
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by magic12ball on Jan 9, 2011 1:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think offensively this is a Magic team that has way more firepower than the 2009 team.
6 of 8 of the rotation can hit threes. All of them are capable passers (maybe not Bass) and the oldest guy, Turkoglu, is bringing the energy with his passing and vision.
Now defensively Stan will still be fuming – the offense can’t be red hot every night – but I feel it’s just a matter of time (I would say the ASG break) before the new guys suddenly become above-average defenders when firmly entrenched in the SVG system
Agree
I think the defense will get better. I can’t prove it by stats, just by my gut-feeling that Stan will get them to play D or his foot will be up their asses.
Last night vs. HOU, after he called the time-out after Millers backdoor pass to Bundinger, he screamed “are you f**king me??!!!!” twice in a row. I seriously LOL’d.
ORL★NDO, our time will come.
by magic12ball on Jan 9, 2011 3:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think the defense has even been that bad.
I mean, tonight notwithstanding.
Does anyone have per-possession stats for this winning streak?
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
I think that all the guys on the roster understand that the great offense starts at the
defensive end. I don’t know if this team will be capable of playing 48 min of very good defense given how they run and the personnel but they’ve already shown that they are capable of shutting down a team for a period of time and that is important enough. When they’ll correct the rotaions that drive Stan mad they will be even better. 9 straight after a major trade is very very impressive.
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Defense will come around
Stan will see to that. Offensively, this Team is WAY more talented, versatile than the 2008 team: Magic NOW can play 1-in-4-out, or conventional, and if someone (Boston) TRIES to play one-on-one on Howard just to stay on top of the outside shooters, well, they’re screwed too! Now, ANYONE of those (Anderson, Rich, Nelson, or Turk) can also go 0ne-on-one, or drive to the basket. There is NO WAY to nullify this offense!
But the Magic HAVE to play much better D, than we are at this moment. The personel IS there! Turk and Arenas GOT to stay on top of their assignments!
One last thing… Howard HAS to stop those silly OFFENSIVE fouls; the slight elbow-to-the-ribcage, especially when he’s RIGHT UNDER THE HOOP! It’s THOSE that get him in trouble, as he makes 2 or 3 in each game. He has been around LONG ENOUGH to know better.
Regardless… I’m way more confident with this Team than I was EVER with Lewis-Carter-Duhon-et Al… Things are looking GOOD!!!
Think of it this way: is there a rotation player on this team you'd be surprised to see score 15+ points?
I mean, even Arenas… I know he’s been inaccurate so far, but I feel like that’s only a REAL problem if he gets so bad that teams start helping off him on defense, and he can’t make them pay. Even in the state he’s in now, I trust him to get something done if the other team leaves him open. A shot, a pass, something.
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
Those calls are gonna happen with Howard
He’s too strong and refs dont let him play like they did with Shaq
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by Souwantmyname on Jan 9, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
From the Sentinel:
The Magic now have gone seven consecutive games with at least six players scoring in double figures. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, that is the longest such streak in the NBA in the last 18 seasons.
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by 44792212 on Jan 9, 2011 8:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
WOW @ this stat/fact/trivia . . .
Now let’s make it 8!!
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draining us...
i love & hate the way we are playing right now. we don’t get hot until the 3rd quarter. that’s not gonna work all the time. and we need more then an 8-man rotation each night. give clark some playing time. we really need to see if the kid can play up to ten minutes against great teams. and is there any talk about a big man we’re gonna get.
There have been a lot of games where the Magic played very well in the first half.
A lot of teams play 8-man rotations. And is there anyone right now who’s getting too much playing time, aside from maybe Howard? You don’t play a ninth man just to play a ninth man.
Playing Clark will usually mean benching Bass or Anderson, and while Clark has been promising so far, would you rather see him out there instead of one of those guys?
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
Clark wont be playing come playoff time. He is still way too raw and doesnt know the defensive rotations
There is absolutely no need to get Earl accustomed to great teams in the NBA since he wont be used this year. However, he should be used more against the dregs of the NBA in the regular season. To see if we really do have something in him. Remember guys he’s a restricted FA after this year
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by Souwantmyname on Jan 9, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather him get 18-20 minutes in meaningful 9th man minutes when or if Dwight/Bass/RA get in foul trouble
rather than garbage time.. which is probably 3-5 minutes on a good shellacking.
Magic garbage time usually consists of Duhon creating crap with the ball, and all the other players jacking up three pointers and playing very little defense.
mistook something
i’m just saying this won’t every night. it has (and i hope it continues to work) but it’s gonna be a time where it won’t work. we are playing great. i’m just saying give clark 8-10 minutes to see what he can do against good team to give him experience.
It would be from J-Rich and JJ.
Since Clark is actually a large SF, like Hedo, it makes more sense to play him behind Hedo in the SF position. This would eat minutes from J-Rich sliding over, and also eat minutes from JJ since J-Rich would probably play more at the 2. They’d also look at possibly losing a few min. for Arenas as well. All depending on how many minutes they would want to play Clark. If he gets 6 mins, they could spread it around so all 3 lose about 2 min in playing time.
Not really worth it, to me. But that seems like a better plan than shoehorning him into the PF position just because he’s tall. In the end, the hope would be that the rotation players step it up against some of the lesser teams, and he can get some more minutes doing cleanup duty. In reality, the non-rotation players should be all about giving support to rotation players…since the only way Duhon, Q, and Clark get time is in blowouts. They should be on their feet the entire game cheering on the starters.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 9, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Clark is a situational player right now.
It’s not worth it to give him PT right now just because, when we have players who are all playing well. When match-ups dictate, he can be useful in games. Otherwise, it’s best for him and the team to continue to learn the system, get better in practice, and work out a bit. It worked for Bass this year.
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Agreed.
If the Magic crew can do for Clark what they did for Bass…oh my, that kid could be a stud.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 10, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
Take minutes away from JRich and JJ??
Are two best scorers at moment behind Dwight? I am all for more playing time for Clark, but not the expense of those two.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I'm not suggesting it...just pointing out the "how".
I’ve stated already that I don’t think it’s worth it to shoehorn him into the rotation. If we’re going to force someone in, it should be Q because of his benifits on the defensive end. Unless Clark can show real improvement on that end, he can stay a situational guy.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 10, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
good points but.
quite possibly both. take 3 minutes from both or play him against weak teams or something. i just hate the thought of probably losing a good player. like when we had trevor ariza and courtney lee( why did we give him up?
I don't agree. They're better players. They deserve that time until Clark earns it. Playing him just to play him doesn't make sense.
If you’re bummed about losing Lee, just know the Magic wouldn’t have Anderson without giving him up. He’s the younger, better player.
Yeah, Lee started (as a rookie) on a Finalist team and he plays good D. I get that. But overall? He’s a pretty average player.
I love Courtney as much as every one else in Orlando
Put can we stop begging for him to come back? We got Ryan Anderson because of him. And Jason Richardson and JJ are both better players. Would it be nice to have him? Yes. Gotta agree with Evan here. I get it, Otis Smith made a good pick and we traded him. I get it. Just remember if the Nets didn’t take Ryan Anderson we were going to anyways. Ariza is an average player as well. I love Courtney, but please calm down about him.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
If i am not mistaken....weren't the Magic going to draft Anderson before Lee
…but he got picked up by the Nets first..
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by Bonafidebrother on Jan 10, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
It’s nice to see that Magic has hit a stride, and still running on it.
In order for the team to play its highest potential on defense, something has to give, and I suspect it would be offense. These gaudy numbers always tend to come down to a sustainable median, and – in my view – realizing the median on defense would set the median number on offense around 103-105 per game.
This team would go on offense as far as Hedo goes. While he has been great so far, I don’t think he can play at this level consistently. The goofy Hedo with inconsistent shooting, missed lay-ups, unexpected turnovers, and – not to forget – missed defensive assignments would eventually show up. As it goes for now, he has been a consistent play-maker. Let’s hope that flu-like symptoms is also behind him, and will not show its ugly face once again. We need to be mindful that Hedo is the oldest player on this team, and not with the best of strength and athletic abilities.
As far as the defense, no doubt that Dwight is the anchor. It is nice to see him keep a cooler demeanor. But he needs help in having a true back-up center, sooner rather than later. That would also relieve Bass and Anderson from playing at center position hence maximizing the – still untapped – potentials of the duo in manning the PF position.
It should be noted however, that he looks like he's in better shape than when he was here.
I can actually see muscle definition in Hedo’s arms. Didn’t know he had them before. He actually LOOKS younger than 2 yrs ago.
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I agree. He looks better than his last year here.
He looks a lot like 2008 Hedo.
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Hedo has been goofy
Ha has made old fashioned Turk plays that frustrate you. But he is also in better shape and actually has better weapons to use than the first time he was here. I actually expect the offense to continue. What we are going to have live with is that this team is going to coast on defense until they have to during games. But after watching this team for 1/8 of the season you can see that they are capable of playing lockdown defense when they need to. Come playoff time I think the urgency will be there and they will play great defense.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
I see no reason to take minutes from Bass and Anderson to give to a 2nd rate center.
We are better off playing the best talent rather than degrading our talent for a few extra pounds.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
We don't have to.
We just need someone in case the match-up dictates we need someone other than a skinny 6’10" or a thick 6’7" guy is not going to cut it defending Gasol or Bynum or Shaq or whoever when Dwight sits. Most nights, Bass and Anderson can cover fine. But someone like a Nazr Mohammed type that can come in and provide some extra beef when the other team has an offensive force at center.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
E.D., I was wondering if anyone has yet done a comparative analysis of the Magic's defensive statistics between the pre & post trade rosters?
Perhaps 11 games is still too small a sample size but I think it would be interesting nonetheless.
R.I.P. Peaches . . . Your love for the Magic was only eclipsed by your love for untimely turnovers.
Thanks . . . I'm anxious to see what you find out!
R.I.P. Peaches . . . Your love for the Magic was only eclipsed by your love for untimely turnovers.
Magic have matched their longest winning streak. When was the last time they won 9 in a row? Not a trivia question. I don’t know the answer and would like to know. Was it Shaq era or Dwight era?
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Originally set during the Shaq era
“The victory extended Orlando’s winning streak to nine games, tying a team record first set in 1994.” Josh Robbins, Orlando Sentinel
Don’t know about others
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
The other time was 2000-2001.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
thanks…but is that true? wasn’t that Heart & Hustle? the Magic really won 9 straight that year? Doc is definitely a better coach than everyone makes him out to be, if that’s the case.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
The first year T-Mac was here.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/2001_games.html
The streak lasted from games 43 through 51. It included a double OT win over Philly where Iverson had 47 points (in 54 minutes), Theo Ratliff and Tyrone Hill both had double-doubles, and Darrell Armstrong had 34 on 21 shots, 13 assists and 8 boards. That was the same Philly team that went to the Finals, but it was before they traded for Mutombo.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Comment on Mavs Moneyball
(Dallas Defense was so good, it forced the Magic into taking 3 full shots from 16-23 ft. Orlando made all three)
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 9, 2011 5:00 PM EST reply actions
Off-topic.
I read the “game review” on that site, and man… it was really boring. Dude just basically was like, “This happened… and then this happened…. and then this happened.”
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Off-topic.
I read the “game review” on that site, and man… it was really boring. Dude just basically was like, “This happened… and then this happened…. and then this happened.”
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
Proud Jameer and Rashard apologist since '07
Off-topic.
I read the "game review" on that site, and man… it was really boring. Dude just basically was like, "This happened… and then this happened…. and then this happened."
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
by 4QB on Jan 9, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, stupid site bugged out and triple posted.
Not my fault! It lied to me and said there was “an error”.
"We just want to chill" - Chris Bosh.
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Quadruple
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 10, 2011 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I posted #4 to make fun of slick.
No offense buddy.
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
I know this is a basketball blog...
But it’s close to an unassisted triple-play.
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