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Chicago Bulls 99, Orlando Magic 90

Dwight Howard turned in the finest regular-season performance of his NBA career Friday night, but his Orlando Magic didn't give him enough help against the Chicago Bulls, who rode Luol Deng's 26 points--24 in the second half--to a 99-90 victory. Howard put up 40 points, 15 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 steals, and 3 blocked shots, which should be enough for Orlando to roll against most opponents. But his teammates shot just 18-of-50 from the floor and scored 58 points, with no other player scoring more than 11, undermining his dominant effort. Meanwhile, Deng asserted himself after halftime against Hedo Turkoglu, beating the Magic's small forward off the dribble time and again for his fifth 26-plus-point outing of the season. Derrick Rose, who hadn't eaten in four days due to pain from two stomach ulcers, shot 6-of-21 from the floor, but still managed 22 points and 12 assists against a porous Magic defense.

The Magic capitalized on a sloppy second period from Chicago to hold a 51-46 lead at intermission. But Deng scored the Bulls' first 8 points of the second half, which Rose followed with a three-pointer, to kick-start an 11-3 Bulls run and, by extension, the Magic's demise. Magic point guard Jameer Nelson played just 8 minutes before his sore knee acted up on him, ruling him out for the rest of the game. As a result, in-season acquisition Gilbert Arenas had to play 31 minutes in Nelson's relief, and he did so poorly. After making two long two-point jumpers to bring the Magic to within 7 early in the fourth period, he missed consecutive three-pointers and went cold. He finished with 11 points on 5-of-13 shooting, along with 3 assists and 4 turnovers. His last miscue, a crosscourt pass to Turkoglu which Deng picked off with ease, gave Chicago the ball with a 5-point lead an 32 seconds to play, effectively ending the Magic's dim comeback hopes.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic9199.444.2%26.915.612.1
Bulls90109.647.1%19.532.714.4
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

The Magic just lacked energy tonight, which can't happen against a team as talented as Chicago, even missing its best interior defender in Joakim Noah. The Bulls are among the league's best offensive rebounding squads to begin with, but it's telling that the Magic, who rank tops in the NBA in defensive rebound percentage due largely to Howard, let the Bulls grab 32.7 percent of their own misses. If Orlando makes a better effort there tonight, it might have pulled out the victory despite shooting just 5-of-21 from three-point distance.

In some ways, the Magic played like a cartoon of themselves tonight, a cartoon an internet commenter with a poor understanding of their game, and basketball as a whole, might draw. Howard put up 40 points on 20 field-goal attempts, but his teammates did nothing of consequence, at either end. Defensively, the Magic too often let the Bulls, particularly Deng, get to the hoop. They also did more damage from beyond the arc than Orlando did, shooting 8-of-18 from deep. Kyle Korver and former Magic swingman Keith Bogans had two triples apiece.

Nelson would have helped the Magic tonight tremendously, as he's shown throughout his career he can get past Rose off the dribble and can beat coach Tom Thibodeau's defensive schemes with his passing. Arenas does neither of those things, which may have contributed to Orlando's wing players struggling mightily on offense. Turkoglu and Jason Richardson shot 4-of-20 from the floor for 13 points, and both of Richardson's buckets came in transition off Howard-created opportunities; he did not score once in the halfcourt. Deng's a great defender to begin with, so maybe Nelson's absence for 40 minutes tonight had no bearing on Turkoglu's awful play. But it's still worth thinking about.

The Magic traded for Arenas, Richardson, and Turkoglu to bolster their offense, and by all accounts they've done that, with the team improving on that side of the ball since those three came aboard. But against the league's best defense, Orlando has very little margin for error. It made too many mistakes tonight, and lost accordingly. For the second time in three games, the Magic lost, and deservedly so. This sort of performance is obviously not what team President of Basketball Operations Otis Smith had in mind when he made those trades.

As for Howard? This performance might go in his all-time highlight reel when he retires, and in my estimation, the only time he's ever played better is in Game 6 of the 2009 Eastern Conference Finals against the Cleveland Cavaliers. A lot can happen between now and July 2012, but something tells me Howard will remember this loss when he's deciding whether or not to stick with the Magic when he becomes a free agent. Richardson and Turkoglu should be enough to put Orlando over the top offensively, to give Howard help on the wings. They weren't tonight, and there's no indication they will be in a potential playoff series against this Bulls squad.

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I never liked that trade.

Some say Arenas will show his worth come the playoffs. I sure hope those people are right, and that I’m way, way wrong.

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by North of the South on Jan 28, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

gilbert needs to get his head right

gilbert pg J-rich sg hedo sf bass pf Howard c is a good line-up on paper but they don’t play well we should have kept matt barnes he tries and his attitude would rub on others wish we had tough layers like Kenyon Big Ben and Matt Barnes because this is not a top 3 team anymore !

by raza on Jan 28, 2011 11:51 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, what is your utter obsession with Kenyon Martin?

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by 4QB on Jan 29, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he just has a thing for guys with choice arm tatts.

I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.

by Redfield on Jan 29, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously, man, what is with Martin?

Why would you want an old, undersized, injury prone power forward when you already have two young and coming power forwards in Bass and Anderson? You surely have some odd cravings, my friend.

by Mr. Hyde on Jan 29, 2011 5:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Go Bulls!!

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by Bullsarenumber1 on Jan 28, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Grats?

Makes up for that 30 point loss you guys had from earlier in the season… I guess.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

um arenas sucks.

the only thing he does well is pass the ball.wait fail he can’t do that well any more either.we have had enough games to see he is not and never will be who he was(never expected him to either). looks like its a habit for otis to trade for washed up guys.svg will pay with his job because 10 of his 13 players cannot play his style of ball(defense).dwight masks that with the stats.we need j rich to become a slasher but it looks like he will be a shooter here in orlando.rip me if you guys want but we will not make it out of the 2nd round this year.

by magicman775 on Jan 28, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

Quite Simply...

Everyone on the Magic not named Dwight forced too many long jumpshots early in the shotclock with no ball movement. Whether due to Gil not running set plays or guys just being quick with their shots, it was dreadful in the 2nd half.

The Bulls are not nearly as bad as we made them look in the first game. The Magic are not nearly as bad as the Bulls made us look tonight in the 2nd half. But if we’re to face the Bulls in the playoffs, I’ll take a road split 100 out of 100 times. On to the next one.

by CaneGrad05 on Jan 28, 2011 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

The third quarter was a killer for the Magic

The Bulls outscored the Magic 34-17 in the third, shooting 13 of 21, including 3 of 5 on threes, while the Magic shot just 4 of 14, including 0 for 2 on threes.

After a pretty decent first half offensively, when the Magic scored 51 points on 19 of 41 shooting, the Magic scored just 39 points on 13 of 37 shooting in the second half, while the Bulls scored 53 points on 19 of 38 shooting.

The 54 rebounds by the Bulls ties a season high for a Magic opponent.

Ryan Anderson’s 11 game streak of scoring in double figures ended.

Other than D12, only J.J. Redick shot at least 50% from the field.

The Magic had their second-worst percentage this season on three pointers (23.8%) in games where they have made five or more threes.

J-Rich, Turk, and Anderson combined to shoot 6 for 28 for 22 points.

After a very inefficient first half for Derrick Rose (3 of 13 for 7 points), he had a much more efficient second half with 15 points on 8 shots. Of course, he deserves props for even being out there playing considering what he’s been through all week.

Bulls’ coach Tom Thibodeau admitted the Bulls caught a break when Nelson had to leave the game and couldn’t return.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 29, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions  

Holy Hell we sucked tonight

pretty much all i have to say. D-howard is a beast.

by Lil J on Jan 29, 2011 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

Evan proved to be prophetic in his pre-game writeup

Orlando’s allowed its last two opponents to have at least two players score 20-plus points. If that happens against Chicago, with Rose and perhaps Luol Deng popping off, the Magic can forget winning this one, as the Bulls’ defense is more than capable of holding Orlando down.

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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 29, 2011 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

Haha What?

We lost one game, on the road, when neither team is at full-strength. I don’t get people.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I hate how every win or loss has to have such a significant meaning here (and possibly around the league). We go on a little winning streak and everyone’s like, “Title or bust! GO MAGIC!”, and we lose one game and everyone’s like, “We don’t stand a chance in the playoffs, and Dwight’s going to leave now!” Seriously, it’s one freaking game in January.

I really, really don’t see where it’s constructive talking about Dwight leaving after one loss where his offensive game is on while the rest of the team struggled in a loss. There have been plenty of instances where the opposite is true while we have won. Can we seriously stop freaking out about 2012 and focus on the 2011 season?

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:33 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

We're parting like it's 2012.

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Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
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by 4QB on Jan 29, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, for the 2012 season-

Can we stop with the insane trade/sign proposals?

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by 4QB on Jan 29, 2011 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm cool with that.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

One game? We're 5-5 over our last 10.

I don’t think this game is an isolated incident. Look at that awful loss to Detroit. I’d like to keep shrugging it off but it doesn’t look good to me.

by Tim333 on Jan 29, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

And before that we won 9 in a row.

It’s a long season. Get a grip. Boston finished with a .500 record over the last fifty games last year. It depends on matchups, health, and energy when May rolls around, not January.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing to apologize for.

Just enjoy the season. There are going to be ups and downs. I’m not trying to say we’re going to win the title or anything, but the team is still one of the contenders in the East. That’s about as much as you can ask for when we’re not even at the All-Star break yet.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope this puts to rest this nebulous idea of Arenas waking up one day and suddenly having "it" again.

News flash: Gilbert “Unbelievable Albatross Of A Contract” ARENAS HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD PLAYER FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS. Every person from now on who even hints at suggesting starting Gilbert “Millstone Around The Neck Of The Franchise” Arenas is wrong about everything forever. Sorry to go all manny55 here.

This team is seemingly back to where it was pre-trades: losing games with Dwight calling out his teammates for terrible defense. And I say “seemingly” because this team is actually worse off. Before the trades, the Magic absolutely destroyed Chicago and didn’t have Gilbert “No-Knees” Arenas playing like the rich man’s Chris Duhon. And by rich man, I mean the kind like Gilbert “My Defense Is Hilariously Awful” Arenas that throws away thousands of dollars every month owning a grotto with pet sharks.

For years now, us beleaguered Orlando fans have been telling everyone that Dwight does have an offense, we don’t “live and die by the 3”, and the true key to our success is our fantastic defense. Well, the defense is gone. The trades took middling defenders and replaced them with awful defenders, and that’s simply not winning basketball. SVG is awesome, but he’s not Jesus. At a certain point, there is no defensive system that makes up for a total lack of defensive talent. Are we there now? We certainly are when Gilbert “I Am Singlehandedly Going To Get Otis Smith Fired” Arenas is on the floor, and I am truly worried about Turk. If his defense on Deng looks like that, how is it going to look against Pierce and James?

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 29, 2011 1:38 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

But...

Arenas is taller than Jameer…

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, cool.

I agree with your comment below that this loss feels more important than others, and all I can really do is try to laugh off that feeling.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 29, 2011 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Turk is a passable defender against Pierce

Pierce actually said as much himself. Pierce isn’t the kind of player that blows by people with his speed, and Turk’s length seems to give him problems. Compared to Matt Barnes who absolutely and brutally got torched by Pierce last year, Turk might actually be an upgrade defensively against the Celtics.
But against the 28 other teams not located in Boston… well… We might have a little problem there.

by logred on Jan 29, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, anyone who uses speed to score will burn Hedo.

Pierce, thankfully, relies on spasmodic moves to either confuse the defender or the referees.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

More games like yesterday's from Gil (5/13, 4TOs) and I'm hope that someone

will feed him to his sharks and put Ducon in there too just for desert.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure I understand...

If the Magic are back to where they were pre-trade…then how is it Arenas’ fault exactly?

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 29, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. You must have been maddeningly outraged.

Nobody can claim that we are looking at small samples – not any more – since the number of minutes played by the new players are large enough to establish what we have dreaded all along:

1 – Arenas is not going to get any better in his shooting prowess, although his play making – however erratic – favors him against Duhon, but that does not say much.
2 – Hedo has proven to be his old own-self in terms of shooting inconsistency – from game to game – and being a defensive liability.
3 – Team’s overall defense has suffered due to new arrivals’ lack of familiarity with – or commitment to – sound defensive concepts whether individually or team-wise.
4 – The offense has somewhat improved in scoring higher numbers but not in variety of scoring options necessary to score against good defenses.

In spite of aforementioned, I am willing to wait until we play against MIA and BOS – thankfully in short order – which by then we would be in a better position to judge where the team stands. I refer you all to my postings under the thread comparing Richardson and Carter, whereby I offered my views of just acquiring Hedo – and rather cheaply in terms of returned assets – and avoid the rest of unnecessary burdens caused by being saddled up with Arenas’ contract, thinness of the frontline, and loss of defensive assets. I also encourage you to read my FanPost titled “What is Magic’s Worth”. I know it’s boring to read financial reports but the ramifications on retaining Dwight is quite significant to the extent that we have to pay attention to it right now, in my view. I am not interested in rumors and speculations, but it makes sense to put in all efforts necessary to keep the team’s franchise player, something which the recent reckless trades runs against.

by Matt1325 on Jan 29, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

C's lost to the Suns, and the Lakers lost to Sactown.

Season over!

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 2:13 AM EST reply actions  

Don't know why but this loss really feels like a crushing blow

I don’t usually cry doom with every loss, but for some reason this loss stung hard. Really feels like a gut check. Maybe I’ve got stomach ulcers who knows…

by logred on Jan 29, 2011 2:13 AM EST reply actions  

Felt kinda like that Denver loss, the last gme before the trades.

Obviously, I’m not saying Otis is going to turn the roster over again, but the feeling’s the same. Seems more important. But it counts, in the standings, as only one of 82.

by Evan Dunlap on Jan 29, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes you are right, it "Seems more important". Quantitatively, this is just one game and counts as one loss.

But looking qualitatively at how our offense struggled against good defenses while our defense – especially at individual positions – cannot hold against just decent offenses, there is more to read into this game. This game also was about the top 3 spots in the East and separation from the rest, and if we could not get up for such hype, when could we?

by Matt1325 on Jan 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

And boston lost to PHX.

Once again we miss a chance to capitalize on an opponent’s struggle. We really need to maintain some intensity over the next two weeks.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand it was a missed opportunity to not shrink the C's lead on us

and it could affect positioning for the playoffs, but I just don’t see this particular game as being very meaningful for one 5’11" reason. If Jameer played, I think this game could have been entirely different given Rose’s inability to defend Jameer. Granted, I didn’t watch the game but from seeing the numbers, reading the posts and post-game writeups, and seeing some highlights, I feel like this game would have been completely different had Nelson played. For that reason, I cannot really judge this game.

In a 7 game series, I think we take Chicago in 6. They’re a very good team and are on a roll right now but I don’t think they match up particularly well with us.

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by JeffShann3 on Jan 30, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

time to srep up

The rest of the team need to give dwight some support. Everyone talks about we’re a team full of scorers but when dwight has a big game everyone else seems to sit back and watch instead of chip in.
Im sick of all this 2012 dwight talk already but if dwight continues to play how he is and has a weak supporting cast i think he’ll walk. And i’ll cry.

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by poterajko on Jan 29, 2011 2:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Bring back Shard!

He logged over 50 minutes tonight against the Thunder and hit 4 3’s!

by CTMagicfan on Jan 29, 2011 2:51 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for picking us UP, Evan...

And to MoveThose Chains, for busting me up real good! We REALLY needed it…

Look, I HATE to sound all pesimistic and all… This Team HAS all the talent needed for a championship… but no desire! It’s as if the players take turns playing “The Short Term Memory Loss” game… completely forgetting WHO they are. Sure, we can play one or two great games… but then it’s back to the"You’re-mistaken-me-for- someone-else" game.

Back in 2008, I used to get mad at Nelson; blamed him for all the broken eggs the Magic layed that year… remember how the Magic had the BEST Road Record?
Yet, we would constantly get beaten… AT HOME!

But even THEN… and also in 2009-2010, the Magic COULD stage fantastic comebacks, from 12, 14, even 16 points down! We had HEART!

NOW… now I know better: This is NOT on any one player. Except for Howard and maybe JJ… it’s easy to see that this Team has lost it’s HEART. Thinking about Howard and JJ… just makes me sad. What makes it WORSE is NOT knowing HOW to fix this, because it’s mostly in the head (except for Arenas… his knees ARE shot!).

My family has tickets for the Magic-Clippers game. But I’m actually looking at this game with dread. This kid, Blake; of whom I have spoken so much to my daughters, can very possibly slaughter us… IF we ALLOW the rest of them to go Super Nova on us! ’m not making this up; this a a very REAL, POSIBLE scenario!

It’s NOT “JUST ONE GAME”. Like I pointed out before: It’s a significant TREND. Some could call it a character flaw… There’s always HOPE; but not great expectations… not anymore.

by manny55 on Jan 29, 2011 3:34 AM EST reply actions  

I supported...and still support the trades...

It has been repeatedly demonstrated that they made the team better offensively. That being said..it will be excrutiatingly difficult to pull out wins when Turk, JRich, AND Anderson struggle to score. We NEED double digit outings from all of them. JRich was averaging 20+ with Phoenix..and I don’t feel we are utilizing all of his abilities. He is more than just a “catch and shoot” player. As far as Gilbert goes…I have become increasingly impatient..tonight was a perfect opportuntiy for him to step up..and he did not. While I haven’t completely written him off..I question his heart…if I’m not mistaken, he scored 30+ in a game against us. Half of that would be completely welcomed..and frankly, I expect atleast that. When shots are not falling…put the ball on the floor and try to get to the line. The offensive weapons are there…but offense alone will not be enough. Until the TEAM defense improves..games like this one will be hard to win. I still feel we should keep in mind that this team has not been together as long as it’s opponents…and yet they remain right in the thick of things. But the window is closing…and they are running out of excuses.

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by Mr_Major on Jan 29, 2011 5:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yes, when shots aren't falling our D isn't good enough to bail us out.

That is the worse problem in the games where we struggle.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Soooo, if we lose to Heat on Thursday then Dwight is pretty much gone.

That is the scenario now ?

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 8:02 AM EST reply actions  

I am relaxed.

I just really see no point in bringing that up every two days. That’s all.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I guess that's the way the whole durned human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself.

by Redfield on Jan 29, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I hate how people bring that up every loss.

If that’s how it works, we might as well trade him now.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

This loss looks bad, but....

It is not the playoffs yet. There is time to address some of these areas that are hurting play.

Really, this was not a bad game, but just one bad quarter—the 3rd. Orlando outscored Chicago in 1Q, 2Q, (led at halftime) and 4Q.

Team just got killed coming out of halftime. Well, Turk got killed by Deng. Good adjustment by Thibs.

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by magicfaninTN on Jan 29, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Good point, Thibodeau deserves a lot of credit, not only for last night

but also for Chicago’s record despite all the injuries. As does D-Rose of course.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

Pretty easy choice, imo. Chicago bouncing between 2nd and 3rd in the east. With Kurt Thomas as their starting center!! If Noah comes back healthy and that unit clicks, look out come playoff time.

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by magicfaninTN on Feb 1, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Sentinel commentariat turn toward SVG, Major LULZ.

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by 4QB on Jan 29, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

I can't fathom why it's always the entire TEAM going cold.

I mean, it’s never “Oh, Redick is cold, so sit him.” or “Turk can’t defend, so put in Q.” or whatever. It’s really uncanny how as soon as one or two guys start missing shots, the entire team suddenly turns into an ice burg.

Maybe the wing players get so spoiled playing with Howard against lesser teams, who have to double and leave them open shots and easy openings, that when they face a good defense they simply can’t handle it?

I don’t know the reason, but it’s the way it always seems the team completely ebbs and flows together, either they mostly play amazing or no one can hit a basket to save their lives (besides Howard, obviously). In situations where Howard is dominating like this, it’s pretty ridiculous that NO ONE on arguably the deepest team in the league could get more than 11 points behind Howard.

by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 29, 2011 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Without Jameer's penetration or Hedo playing well off the PnR...

There aren’t any openings. There is no movement in the offense, hence no movement needed from the defense. I mean, we can just give it to Bass who will shoot it no matter how close his defender is, but that’s about the best chance we have to score outside of Dwight if neither Jameer nor Hedo are available/playing well.

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by slickw143 on Jan 29, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we're the deepest team anymore.

Most of our former depth is hanging out in Phoenix and Washington DC right now. I mean, we used to have a full 10-man rotation, with lots of people loudly clamoring for the 11th man when it was Bass or Anderson. Now it’s an 8-man rotation by necessity, because who else really deserves much playing time? Probably not Earl Clark, at least not this season. It looks like QRich is too firmly in the doghouse, even when Turk is getting brutalized on defense. J-Will is gone, Duhon is Duhon, and Malik Allen and Daniel Orton are just warm bodies.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 29, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

The 10 man rotation was very capable too of losing silly games and

going cold. I don’t think it has to do with the minus 2 players in the rotation. A bad shooting night will get alwasy in trouble. Again, the problem is more in the defensive end.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree. I was just pointing out that this team is not "arguably the deepest team in the league" anymore.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 29, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

sadly funny tweet by Eddy about Magic's perimeter D
In 2009, the Magic had Lee and Pietrus. In 2010, the Magic had Barnes and Pietrus. In 2011, the Magic have … Redick.

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by 44792212 on Jan 29, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

SMH :(

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by AB's triple double on Jan 29, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I reckon it's time for some rotational changes.

If Gil’s knee is still bad, why is he being played? Try Duhon again, he’s the inferior but if he’s fully fit, he should be given the chance.

Also, Hedo’s defense is horrible, getting beat off the ball. J-Rich isn’t much better, despite his athletic qualities. Maybe it’s time for QRich to get meaningful minutes or even Clark.

by RL Magic on Jan 30, 2011 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

Hedo did an honnest job in the Pacers game though, you never know with him.

And let’s be honnest here, we all wanted to win that game but the Bulls are the best defense in the league and a pretty good team right now. I really think the top priority is still to make the line up work consistently. I mean, we can’t be as disapointed as to think that Duhon deserves a chance. And remember, we do need the better offense the trades gave us (as we keep repeating after each W). They just need to go into some kind of winnning streak to get both ours and mostly their convidence level where it needs to be. It’s all about the defense right now but the players you mentioned didn’t do our offense any good and I don’t know if SVG is ready yet to give meaningful minutes to Superboy or if he can really have some impact.

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by 44792212 on Jan 30, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, they did just go on a good winning streak,

and that still did nothing to show that this team can play defense.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 30, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

though last time I checked, our defensive numbers weren't that different after trade.

I agree 100% that our defense isn’t where it needs to be and I could even agree to play Q more if he can have a bit of offensive flow. It’s no secret that teams like the Hornets are capable to go into 10 game winning streaks thanks to their defense but on the other hand we have a better defensive efficiency than the Spurs who are right now the best team recordwise in the league.
Once again, what drives me crazy with the current roster and from times it was the case even with the ’09 one, is their capacity to go from very good to avarage or worst between games.

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by 44792212 on Jan 30, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think QRich has to be the best candidate for increased playing time, due to him actually having heard of defense.

He’s never been much of a shot creator, but with the increased firepower of the new lineup, I think he can safely go back to his intended role of getting open for a corner 3.

Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

by MoveThoseChains on Jan 30, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

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