Oklahoma City Thunder 125, Orlando Magic 124
The Orlando Magic dropped their second straight game Thursday night, 125-124, as they were unable to string any stop together against an on-fire Oklahoma City Thunder squad led by Kevin Durant's 36 points and Russell Westbrook's 32-point, 10-rebound, 13-assist triple-double. Dwight Howard dominated with 39 points and 18 rebounds, Jason Richardson scored 19 points, and the combination of J.J. Redick and Ryan Anderson combined for 33 points on 11-of-21 shooting, but the Magic couldn't answer Durant or Westbrook at the other end of the floor in the second-worst defensive performance of Stan Van Gundy's three-plus-season tenure as Orlando head coach. The Thunder shot 56.4 percent from the field, made hald of their 14 three-point attempts, and earned 37 free-throw attempts against a porous Orlando defense that failed to take anything away, letting Oklahoma City essentially run wild. And while it's true that Durant and Nenad Krstic made an unseemly number of long two-point jumpers, it's also true that the Magic were a step or two slow in defending them, so it's not as though we can let them off the hook, or chalk the loss up to Oklahoma City nailing difficult shots.
The Thunder jumped out to a 22-10 lead fueled by open shots on their end, setting the tone for what would become a long night for Orlando defensively. No amount of Howard jump-hooks or Magic treys should have been able to overcome such an onslaught from the Thunder, with Westbrook scoring with ease over Jameer Nelson in transition and Durant softly touching up long jumper after long jumper, yet the Magic only fell by a single point thanks to the Thunder's own poor defense.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic | 92 | 134.2 | 53.3% | 31.1 | 32.6 | 5.4 |
| Thunder | 91 | 138.1 | 60.9% | 38.5 | 34.3 | 12.2 |
| Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average; red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average. | ||||||
And that's the one positive to take from this game if you're Orlando: that the team scored essentially at will. Durant leads the league in scoring, and 28 points is an average night for him, so he'll get his. The bigger issue is the Magic didn't stop the ball in transition, nor did they rebound effectively. Letting Westbrook run roughshod over them is more of a problem than Durant's scoring is. On Twitter, I read a lot of messages from Magic fans calling for Nelson's head, but I'm not entirely sure what else he can do. Transition defense as a team responsibility, and in it's not like he can grow a few inches to better handle Westbrook. It's a question of asking far too much of one player, and focusing too much on his shortcomings. Nelson has trouble with taller point guards like Westbrook, Andre Miller, Baron Davis, Chauncey Billups. Almost everyone has trouble with those players!
Really, though, if Brandon Bass nails but one of his several missed 18-footers, or if Hedo Turkoglu makes two more free throws, to name but two hypotheticals, Orlando comes away with a big victory. I get that losing two straight after a 9-game win streak rankles the fans, but the losses came on the road, in a back-to-back situation, by a combined 4 points. Let's try to maintain perspective here.
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I think Brandon's knee is affecting his play...
These last two games he just hasn’t played with a lot of energy and, of course, his shooting has been off too.
I only watched the 2nd quarter of the game (effin DVR) but I saw SVG's comments afterwards
He called out Hedo for missing his FT’s and mentioned how Jameer wasn’t making shots. I find it interesting that he said that if they continue to start games with no energy and get behind early, that he might switch up the line up.
I’m thinking he was referring to Bass and Jameer.
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by AB's triple double on Jan 14, 2011 12:53 AM EST reply actions
Plus what's he going to do? Play Arenas?
As shaky as Jameer has been (for, um, two games… and he had 10 assists in one of them), it’s not like Arenas has been better.
Now, Bass maybe. Ryan’s looked sharp lately, and given that they’re basically splitting the minutes anyway, I could see shaking that up.
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
I'm just going by what Stan said when he referred to changes being made about getting off to slow starts in games
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by AB's triple double on Jan 14, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
too much blame being put on Jameer for this loss, but he didn't do himself many favors tonight.
He played poorly, but that wasn’t the reason they lost. They lost because the Thunder were just better tonight. Don’t look into it any more than that. But I am sure that won’t happen and there will be 1,000+ comments stating that I am wrong and there are fatal flaws with the team and blah blah blah. Have fun, I will not be partaking.
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Your insulting tone is appalling.
As a student of business, you should know better that all cases of failures – and even success – have to be thoroughly dissected for learning further lessons of advancement. It is good that you are not “partaking” since you are not adding anything to the process.
He's criticizing what's a well-known fickle fanbase.
I don’t see the issue.
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Thank you Slick.
Glad somebody actually can comprehend my point of view.
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I am sorry that you don't see the issue. You may have been exhausted all day trying to get simple points across to some people.
I cannot stand the arrogance of righteousness while trying to shut people up, and I don’t care how stupid some of the comments are. Facts and truth would eventually prevail.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Also, never argue with a stupid person – They always bring you down to their level then they beat you with experience.
Thanks for the advice.
A wise man once told me there are two types of people as it relates to knowledge. There are people who don’t know but “know” that they don’t know, and then there are people who don’t know but “don’t know” that they don’t know. He then said beware of the second group. As a teacher at heart I always fall for people who don’t know regardless of which group they belong to.
Yes, you are right.
But those who know me are well aware that I mean refinement, improvement and progress, but no malice.
Good advice to live by MagicMark
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Is that really helpful?
The only thing worse than insulting people without reason is insulting them preemptively.
by eltharion_doa on Jan 15, 2011 2:54 AM EST up reply actions
Case in point.
Don’t know exactly what is so “insulting” about my comment here, unless you are in fact one of the members ready to hang Jameer for every missed shot, TO, or like most, every loss incurred by the team. I almost never “pin” a loss or give praise to one particular player for a team game that requires so many intricate pieces to work in unison in order to achieve a victory. Glad you completely misinterpreted my comment though. Thanks for reading.
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Mr. Shannonhouse: Obviously your stupidity exceeds your arrogance. Haven't you read my comments on this thread or noticed my approach before.
It does not matter what you think, right or wrong. Everybody has the right to express his/her opinion. Of course, we are all entitled to respond or not. I choose not to respond to comments not worthy of any response. Slickw143 has been at it all day trying to get – sometimes basic – points across to some people who didn’t – or didn’t want to – comprehend, which is perfectly fine if that is his choice. You seemed to have a reasonable approach in posting your comments prior to tardes. But your tone has somewhat changed afterwards. Case in point: that link which you posted on another thread.
Suit yourself.
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Obviously your stupidity exceeds your arrogance.
Stop being a jerk, please. Not that it even needs to be said, but Jeff does not have a record as an agitator, stop making him out to be one.
Civility, por favor.
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Not that I like to stretch this senseless discussion.
But doesn’t he have a record of being vulgar or rude? Do you remember that link that he posted in another thread? Magic GM Otis Smith says he probably won’t sign a big man, to be exact. it is still there, if you care to check.
Come on. Civility is not a one way street, and sometimes it needs to be enforced by us all, actively.
I really would like to stop this ridiculous argument...
but when you question my credibility, record as a poster, and overall morality and ethics simply because you disagree with my stance, is a rather difficult thing to let slide. I don’t attack anyone personally, and when I do say something it is usually about their opinion that I feel is incorrect. When I feel that person is wrong, I give my opinion on why I feel that way. Sorry for having an opinion. I will avoid name calling with you although there are a few I would like to say, instead I will only respond to the comments you have made about me.
- Yes, I am graduating from UCF this spring with a degree in Business Administration and a minor in Sports Business Management.
- Yes, I have taken a number of ethics courses at UCF.
- Yes, I posted a link to a website that told those who clicked on it to do something. It was meant to be a joke and as other people noted, you didn’t have to click it. I did not write it in the post or email it you, so there is really nothing wrong with that, imo. You could have avoided it altogether, but you obviously felt compelled to view it based on my comment directly before it.
- I don’t really know where you get off questioning my intelligence level, or my arrogance, as you put it. I do have a strong basketball IQ and understand the X’s and O’s a little bit better than most. You can ask any of the dozen or so coaches I have played for in my lifetime, they will all attest to that. If that is arrogant, than I guess I am.
- I have noticed your approach before and in my opinion it is quite dry and a little stuck up. You constantly mention that sarcasm is beneath you and will not dignify posts with such banter, and yet I never seem to leave a comment you make with the thought of “that guy just made a really terrific argument. I think I should ‘rec’ that post.”
-Lastly, I don’t really understand what has been wrong or different about my comments pre-trades vs. post-trades. I was not opposed to the deals and the only thing I asked more of after they were finalized was why didn’t we ask for another big from Washington in that deal. I have been even more pleased with the team since the trade, even moreso than I thought I would be and my posts I feel have reflected that.
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I don't care to spend any more time on this, since it is obvious that you don't get it.
I will have some of the people who happened to be students in my doctoral course rooms to counsel you in a more appropriate forum. Done.
Jeff
I did not read your post. You are arguing with an ego maniac. It is a waste of your time. When you see one of his posts, skip over it. He has claimed so many degrees and expertises that I think he is a 12 year old trying to impress the world.
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 14, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
you're right, I have said my piece and am over it now.
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Do you need more rope? Your piece was as moronic as the rest of your assertions in defense of the indefensible. A wise soul would have apologized and moved on.
Good luck with your undergraduate degree. It is certainly impressive in comparison with a “12 year[s] old” with no degrees. The funny part is that I know you but you don’t know me. It would be hilarious if our paths cross in the future. I need time off from this madness.
"I know you but you don't know me." Weird.
I don’t care if I know you or don’t know you, or if you know me or don’t know me. You have been the one name calling and making rude comments. I simply answered your incorrect assertions about me. Glad you are taking time off from this though, it seems to have made you a little nutty and over-reactionary to a simple statement.
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Come on kid. Grow up!
You and your obnoxious friend were insulting someone who is way outside your league, and yet call it simple statement? Implied idiocy? Stuck-up? You probably call your professors stuck-up, too. Done.
First, I am not a kid.
Second, I don’t know what “friend” you are referring to, but I do not know anyone on this blog personally (that I know of) but I never once called anyone a name. You have. I said your posts come across a dry and a little stuck up, yes. Didn’t realize that was name calling. No, I do not call my professors stuck up, I genuinely liked the majority of my professors. UCF has a terrific business department with some of the smartest people in the country as professors. Apparently, you are the one who needs to “grow up”, sir.
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Tough loss...
I know the losses came on the road, in a back-to-back situation, by a combined 4 points, but these r the types of games they should start winning and need to keep winning to stay competitive in the standings and not fall too far behind, and Im sure with some more time they will start winning road games with consistency…but giving up 125 pts….i hope they loose 82 out of 82….
Miami lost 2 in a row as well, so it's not like it hurt us a ton in the standings.
I think we’ll end up passing Boston in the standings. They don’t seem to care as much about HC advantage.
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Jameer just lost his shot, it'll be back with time...
he looks frustrated too after every missed shot, but in his defense, cp3 and westbrook back to back on the road….even cp3 or westbrook would have trouble with that…arenas is just a jump shooter…i dont know why it seems everytime we get a big name (carter arenas) we get the “jump shooting 2 years too late” version of them…im sure gil will pick it up tho he’s played like 2 games in last 3 years, relatively speaking of course
The only other times the Magic gave up 125+ points under Stan Van Gundy...
…was when they gave up 128 points to San Antonio in November of ’07, and 127 points to Toronto in February of ’08.
On a side note, Dwight Howard’s 39 points ties for the second-most points he has scored in a game in his career, which had been done three other times prior to OKC, the most recent being last month against Portland. Ironically, the Magic lost that game also.
Howard’s 17 free throws made ties his career high for most free throws made in a game which was previously set in January of ’08 against Utah, and his 85% FT shooting for the game marks just the fifth time in his career he has shot 85% or higher on free throws when he has attempted ten or more free throws in a game.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 14, 2011 1:07 AM EST reply actions
Thanks for these extra stats
Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate and interested in these kind of numbers. It is nice to have a resident stats guy in a blog like this.
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by pembeci on Jan 14, 2011 3:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if you actually intended on someone filling in the blanks for your sig, but...
the first set of blanks is Toronto and Orlando and describe the transactional history of Hedo Turkaglu; the second set looks like Memhet Okur; I am not sure about the third set; nor the last blank.
Just a guess
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How does Seattle fit into that sequence?
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, wait- it's Ray Allen, isn't it?
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
does he win a prize??
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
A cookie would be nice
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
mmmmm
what kind? I could go for an Oreo right about now…
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Milanos
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I prefer the Bordeaux
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
hipsterrrr
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
internet troubles?
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
hipster troubles? >:)
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Why, today, maybe. Just got my skinny jeans on.
Plain ole red shirt, though.
Ceasefire? I like you too damn much. Err, as a poster.
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lol ceasefire :p
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
okaaay
you can get an imaginary cookie too :)
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
It really should be a collaborative effort
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Cool sig.
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, Seattle (or Ray allen) is wrong
First set and second set true (Hedo and Okur). The rest denote 3 more players who have something in common with these two.
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The first thing I think of is both players are European
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I think I got it
List of active Turkish basketball players in the NBA:
First set blank is Toronto and Orlando, player is Hedo Turkoglu
Second set is Mehmet Okur
Third set is Ersan Iilysova
Fourth set blank is Chicago Bulls, player is Omer Asik
Fifth set is Semih Erdan
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by Reediculous on Jan 14, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Forgot these
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I mean

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OMG THOSE ARE SO CUUUUTE :3
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by TheGiantSquid on Jan 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Just one of those games
Thunder shot the lights out, it happens.
Bass looks uncomfortable. I’m not putting the loss on him or anything; he just doesn’t look the same as earlier in the season.
I agree, Thunder played better and were really tough to contain. I stoped watching at the end
of the third (too tired) and was really surprised it ended with 1 point difference. Ryan from what I saw was great last night. Besides,it’s not a secret or anything that the team needs to work on their defense.
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Another pleasing point is Dwight. After getting heat for his FT at the NOH game,
he went 17/20 on this one.
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I think it is his knee.
I thnk he should get the surgery and get it over with. Earl Clark is just going to have to grow up about as fast as possible. Seriously. What else can you do? Bass has been able to dunk but his jump shot has just been short almost every time lately.
Roll Bass and War Ryno for me
Maybe when Allen comes back
Bass will trot off for some rehab. Not sure putting it all on Clark at this point of his career is wise.
by eltharion_doa on Jan 15, 2011 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
You are correct
Howard has played in 37 games this season. In the first 19 games, he shot 120 of 222 from the free throw line for a percentage of 54.1%. In the following 18 games, Howard has shot 123 of 192 from the line for a percentage of 64.1%, which is ten percentage points higher than the first 19 games.
An encouraging sign for the rest of the season, hopefully.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 14, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
10% increase may only mean 1-2 points in a game
But sometimes that’s the difference maker in a close game like this one. More importantly lines like 17/20 will discourage teams to employ Hack-a-Dwight in future games.
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I doubt it. Scott Brooks seemed unperturbed by it when he was interviewed.
I mean.. I’d still want to foul Dwight Howard at the end of the 4th quarter instead of Steve Nash or JJ Redick. Despite this 17/20 stat line.
But you know.. small steps. His defenders still aren’t respecting his jump shot..
Tonight he was on fire at the line. I couldn't believe my eyes.
“It was Howard’s FT shooting that helped keep Orlando in the game.”
Bet we never thought we’d read that sentence…I know I never thought I’d write it!
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Jan 14, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
Despite the regular attempts to downplay it, the Jameer talk is heating up.
Fans opinion doesn’t necessarily have a direct impact on the team but it is interesting to hear the growing number of Nelson detractors. At a bar a couple weeks ago a large group of fans yelling at the TV to keep Nelson on the bench. The same thing last week at a game at Amway. The chatter on some blogs and the word on the street. Nelson’s name being mentioned in a negative light.
I myself am not a huge fan either. I won’t deny his skills though. A good shooter with above average driving ability for a man of his diminutive stature. A scorer!
But I don’t, unlike some, overly defend his weaknesses. Not a floor general, questionable court vision, tendency to call his own number more offer then desireable and lack of size against bigger guards.
Personally I’d love to have his scoring punch coming off the bench where he could be used when some quick fire points are needed or just as a scorer for the 2nd unit. Leaving the starting job for a PG who is more of a facilitator, playmaker and most importantly someone who pushes the tempo which plays into Hedo’s most effective style.
I’m not calling for a change and I’m not saying its going to happen but you can hear a slight rumble in the air as Nelson’s name gets mentioned by frustrated fans. Once again noting that fan buzz may or may not directly effect the team. It’s just intriguing to hear.
Anyway, don’t mind me :)
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by Matty B on Jan 14, 2011 3:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
"Fans opinion doesn’t necessarily have a direct impact on the team"
Nailed it, which is why the “bench Nelson” talk is utterly ridiculous.
Even if what you say is true
There is no “facilitator, playmaker and tempo pusher” to insert into the starting lineup. Arenas has almost every disadvantage that Nelson has, plus his defense is awful, he can’t get into the paint with his creaky knees, and his shooting is an order of magnitude worse.
But hey, he’s taller!
You may as well criticise Jason Richardson for not being Dwayne Wade. It’s true, he’s not, but it’s not like we have Wade sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs.
Nelson is the best PG the Magic can start. He’s not perfect, he has his flaws, but there’s no alternative.
by eltharion_doa on Jan 14, 2011 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
I'm with you!
I wish we had a taller facilitating point guard… But it is what it is. I wish Hedonism could play point all night…
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by chiefs_55 on Jan 14, 2011 6:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Iphone autospell, damn you!
I meant Hedo.
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by chiefs_55 on Jan 14, 2011 6:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hedonism, New Religion?
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That should be his new nickname
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by AB's triple double on Jan 14, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
I wish I could play hedonism all night
Wait, what?
by eltharion_doa on Jan 15, 2011 2:57 AM EST up reply actions
Glad those guys at the bar have such quality credentials.
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that no one takes seriously, and that everyone badmouths behind their back, but that also drops absolute gems of unintentional hilarity.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 14, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
tough loss... but in the context of the season it was a tough fixture to begin with.
it just shows how much more work this team needs on defense.
Also I’ll just reiterate what colossus said about Bass. Does anyone think his knee is flaring up again, that it’s causing him issues? Of course it’s not helping his jump shot isn’t going down but he’s regressing to 2009 Bass.
The five Magic turnovers represents a single game low under Stan Van Gundy
..and is the fewest amount of turnovers they’ve had in a game since February of ’03 when they committed five turnovers against Atlanta.
Obviously, defense was a problem against OKC. The Thunder shot at least 50% in every quarter. 1st… 14 of 26 (53.8%)… 2nd… 11 of 17 (64.7%)… 3rd… 12 of 21 (57.1%)… 4th… 7 of 14 (50%).
On offense, two point field goals were a problem for the Magic. Not counting Howard, the Magic were 16 of 43 shooting on twos (37.2%).
What an unstoppable duo Westbrook and Durant were for OKC. They combined for 68 points on 24 of 41 shooting, 2 of 4 on threes, and 18 of 22 on FTs for a TS% of 67.1%. They also added 15 assists, 14 rebounds, 3 blocks, and 2 steals.
This was only the third time in Magic franchise history that they lost a game while making at least 14 three pointers and shooting 50% from long range; they had been 20-2 previously in those situations.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jan 14, 2011 3:50 AM EST reply actions
I stated earlier that we could outgun any team in the league, but I didn't expect OKC to shoot the lights out, while out-rebounding us 42-36.
Plus I didn’t expect shootings of 2-9 from Hedo, 4-12 from Jameer, and 3-8 from both Brandon and Gilbert.
Obviously defense still needs work on issues of dribble penetration and pick and roll. But last night was an aberration in a sense that we did not expect Hedo to contain Durant. That combined with Wesbrook running circles around our wagon allowed OKC to play a simple game of finding a closer spot to the rim going for a pull up jumper. Wesbrook and other guards and wing players of OKC did plenty of that complemented by Krstic’s jumpers. Durant, however, did most of his damage on long 2-point jumpers. Simply too much to contend with.
Too much blame on Jameer is unwarranted. Granted that he didn’t shoot well in NO, as well but he did a good job of defending the best PG in the league, and must have – understandably – come in with some tired legs.
This is a night that we couldn’t do much to prevent a loss, let alone losing by a single point. I don’t, however, agree with the simplistic notion of accepting that OKC was just better and move on. In order to improve it is essential to look at both:
1 – The details of failures, and;
2 – The sources of success for further advancement
It is unfortunate that in this case, we are looking at the former rather than the latter. Regardless, let’s chalk it off as another single game and move on.
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Have we won a game in the new black kit. The three games I have seen (Denver, New Orleans, OKC) have all resulted in losses.
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We just need the wings to cut more in the paint.
I’m not talking throw it into Dwight then jog to the basket with an arm in the air…I’m talking EXPLODE to the basket, they probably won’t get the layup, but it’s a big enough threat to where the defender can’t come back and surprise Dwight with a double team on the blindside. I believe it’s the only thing missing on our offense that J-Rich and JJ are capable of doing. And the defensive rotations just needs more practice, repetition is the only answer for that.
by Memphissleek on Jan 14, 2011 7:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
First time I can recall all stats shown are green for both teams
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Why does everyone panic at a 2 game losing streak?
We just came off a tough road loss to NO where the refs were awful, and this is a very good OKC team if they play to their potential.
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
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I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
You got me. I saw the box score and only thought was, "Hm, weird we gave up so many points".
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This is a loss, but I think this is kind of a good loss
I am not too upset about this loss compared to the Hornets loss. I think in this game,
- we’re able to hang in there despite not playing good defense,
-we’re able to match the offensive firepower of the team that has the league’s leading scorer.
-I saw Howard hitting those free throws! (Maybe Reggie Miller gave him a few pointers, saw him talking to him during halftime warmups..LOL)
-Not a lot of turnovers.
- It’s a road game of a back-to-back (not to mention the other night’s game went into OT).
- It was a 1 point loss. (Despite the other team’s hot shooting)
Obviously, the main issue here is defense. Allowing the other team to score 125 says it all. But we’re there with them! I don’t get why people are blaming Jameer this time. He’s more consistent than Gilbert. Let’s move on and look forward to the next one. I’m sure the Magic will learn from this game..
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Just wanted to add...- The Heat got owned by the Nuggets also!
I hate Pau Gasol!
…minus LePunk tho. And honestly if you take him off that team they are a middle of the pack/8th spot team in the East. While the Magic didn’t lose more ground on the cHeat with the the losses in NOLA and OKC, it would have been nice to gain a little. For a playoff perspective, it is crucial that the Magic win the Southeast. And just from a defending champion standpoint, its important they hold court in their division. Ganging up the way the cHeat did, does not guarantee anything…you know?
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Yeah, these 4 points are the difference between treading water and picking up 2 games in our division.
Better than losing ground, but still.
Y'know, for kids.
Boy...the Magic just love losing on national tv.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Yeah, I was thinking about that.
I saw a stat last night about how OKC nearly always wins on national TV.
Maybe that’s why they seem to get so much more love in the media than the Magic as they are the complete opposite.
Y'know, for kids.
This was a tough loss
One thing that stands out is the team’s pick and roll defense. Rotations are slow and this weakness is becoming glaringly obvious.
The honeymoon is over. I have utmost faith that Stan will be getting on the team’s back for this. The offense has been great, and I must say this Orlando team has been a heck of a lot more entertaining to watch post-trade. But the defense has gotta tighten up. The past two games were close due to hot 3 pt shooting, the discrepancy would be a lot worse otherwise.
Hopefully the team realises that they can’t just bulldoze every team in the league every night with their new offensive mentality.
by simsherman on Jan 14, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Should the fact that we played the last two games at the preferred pace of the opposition concern us?
That was the question that I wondered about after this loss.
On the other hand, do we even have a “preferred pace” when the team has been together for such a short amount of time?
I haven’t had a chance to look for data on this yet, so I am just commenting through the lens of subjective vision. If anyone has stats vis-a-vis pace during the win-streak and the last two games, please enlighten.
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Your point is an interesting one.
But I think it’s more encouraging that we can play good, quality opponents on the road so tough playing either pace. The Magic still have the components for a great half-court team, while the addition of J-Rich especially has helped our transition a lot.
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Wow
man that game tough. durant was unguardable. j-rich was to small and hedo was too slow. this also showed off our lack of D. our 3pt shooting kept us in it. also anderson was contributing solid D and good points off the bench. why didn’t he put him back in? bass also has been struggling. missing wide open shots that he would usually make. also at least split the minutes between nelson and arenas. find a reliable backup C so we can stop overplaying howard. and it wouldn’t hurt to give earl clark 6-7 minutes a game. at least put him at SF behind hedo.
@ Matty B...
As you correctly stated; “Not a floor general, questionable court vision, tendency to call his own number more offer then desireable and lack of size against bigger guards.”
This have always been the reasons why I have questioned Nelson choice as our PG.
However, right now we don’t have any alternatives. Arenas is even WORSE! In the NO game, I saw him just HAND the ball over TWICE to the other team… really BAD decision making. Not only is he NOT making any shot; but he’s not finding his team mates , and frankly… he just looks plain SCARED! And please… don’t bring Hedo into this conversation… he’s NOT the primary ball handler on the Team.
One thing though...
Evan; do you think this defensive lapse is SYSTEMIC, or ENDEMIC; a fatal flaw that makes us especially vulnerable to great Wing players? Is it something that has worsened with the NEW Team additions? Do we REALLY need an “elite” defender at the wing position?
These are the questions that have kept me awake lately…
The defense looks worse with each passing game.
This should help
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep-aids/SL00016
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 14, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nominated for best new poster.
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
Can I get a rec?
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
Hello, handsome, is that a ten-gallon hat or are you just enjoying the show?
by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 14, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
There, that works right?
Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
You can't ask for rec's. Sir.
I am rescinding a rec.
LET THIS BE A LESSON NOOOOOB.
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Jay's favorite line: "Dog, in due time"
Now he look at me, like "Damn, dog, you where I am"
A hip hop legend.
I think I died in an accident, cause this must be heaven.
Sure I can. I am with State Farm and sang the song first.
Not hot tub, hot girl or panda bear though. Did not ask for Bob Barker. He scares me!
Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine.
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by Both_Teams_Played_ on Jan 15, 2011 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why, but I keep trying to find hidden messages with the seemingly randomly chosen capitalized word
I try to put them together to see if they make sentences. Failing that, I then try deciphering them by putting them in anagrams. Finally I try to take the first and last letter of each capitalized word and see if those make other words.
I know there is a pattern there somewhere, and I’m going find it!
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LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. (No sarcasm, all sincere.)
WHY four LOLs after your POST?
There was that much LAUGHING going on, and it required the seeminly unneeded CAPITALIZATION.
Thanks for that. Awesome.
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by Redfield on Jan 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Win.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 14, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
The defense is finally showing signs of being as bad as the personnel suggest it could be.
I don’t doubt that SVG can get it fixed, and there’s still months left to fix it. But that’s where I’m putting my blame, concern, and attention.
Otis Smith, what you've just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard of. At no point in your rambling, incoherent trades were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having witnessed it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by MoveThoseChains on Jan 14, 2011 12:37 PM EST reply actions
OKC isn't losing many games where Krstic scores 16 points with 11 boards.
Or when Durantbrook shoots a combined 24-39. Or when they shoot 30-37 from the FT line.
Honestly, I don’t feel bad about this loss. Second night of a back-to-back after a tough, physical OT loss? Losing both games by a combined 4 points against teams with a combined record of 50-29 (with Marcus Thornton and Krstic scoring a combined 38)? This happens in the NBA. Sorry.
I will say though, in the unlikely event this happens, I would not want to face OKC in the Finals. We don’t have anyone who can cover Durant and Westbrook. They’re just too unique, big and athletic for anyone that we have at those positions to cover.
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by slickw143 on Jan 14, 2011 1:43 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Me either
I’m not sure you could design a team more able to take down Orlando. Athletic scoring wing? Check. Big, fast, shooting PG? Check. Center with range to take Dwight out of the paint? Check.
by eltharion_doa on Jan 15, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions

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