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Orlando Magic Camp Countdown: Can They Win 60-Plus Games?

Orlando Magic training camp opens on September 28th. Orlando Pinstriped Post counts down key questions to consider entering camp and the 2010/11 NBA season.

The Orlando Magic have accomplished plenty since coach Stan Van Gundy took over in the summer of 2007. They've won six playoff series, reached the NBA Finals, and earned at least one individual season-end award each year. The most obvious thing they haven't done is win a championship, but there's another plateau they haven't reached, the significance of which is largely ceremonial. No, for all the things Orlando's done in the last three seasons, it still hasn't crossed the 60-win barrier. With Van Gundy still at the helm, four recent All-Stars in the starting lineup, and an overqualified second unit, Orlando seems poised to make another title run. Is this year the one in which they join the 60-win club?

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Before starting, I'd like to make clear that I recognize how arbitrary 60 is, as a number. But in sports, we like those round counting numbers, and a team's reaching 60 wins is particularly indicative of elite play in the NBA, as it signifies winning at least 73.2 percent of its games. But I guarantee that every player in the NBA will tell you they'd take, say, a 47-win season and a championship over a 60-win season and a second-round exit every time; the sixteen wins from mid-April to June are more meaningful than the 60 or so from November to mid-April. Last season's Boston Celtics are a perfect example of that line of thinking, as they were content to take it easy in the regular season, coasting to a modest 50-32 record, before cranking it up to 11 in the postseason on their way to forcing a Game 7 in the NBA Finals against the reigning world champs, dispatching the previously undefeated Magic along the way.

With that said, Orlando has won 60 games in a season once in 22 years, and it was precisely 60 wins, too. The only squad to do that so far featured Shaquille O'Neal at center and Penny Hardaway running the wing. Terrell Brandon was an All-Star. Bill Clinton was running for a second term as President. Magic center Dwight Howard had yet to turn 8 years old. It was, in short, a while ago. And to get there again would mean something to this team, or at least to its fans, because we like round numbers and we like doing things that aren't often done.

Fortunately, the Magic have come rather close to getting there in each of the last two seasons; in the most literal sense of the phrase, they could not have come closer, winning 59 in both campaigns.

Those weren't flukes, either; the Magic's Pythagorean expectation--that is, their expected record based on their point differential--was a league-best 61-21 last year, and at precisely 59-23 the year before. And in Van Gundy's first season with the team, before Howard turned into the dominant defender he is now, the team posted a Pythagorean expectation of 56-26, which is four wins more than they reached. Add those figures and you'll reach a Pythagorean expectation of 176-70 over that span, which breaks down to 59-23 over a three-year period. Again, quite close.

So does this Magic team have the talent to reach 60? Maybe the answer is obvious. It won 59 last year with its first- and third- most trigger-happy shooters--that's the starting backcourt of Vince Carter and Jameer Nelson, respectively--placing 10th and 12th on the team, respectively, in True Shooting percentage. It won 59 the year before that with its All-Star point guard, Nelson, missing 40 games due to injury.

Well, Nelson's healthy now. Vanishing act in the Eastern Conference Finals aside, Carter adapted to the Magic's offense as the year wore on. Quentin Richardson gives the Magic a true fourth three-point shooter around Howard, replacing Matt Barnes' iffy outside stroke. Essentially, it's hard to argue the team got worse, and it was on the cusp of 60 wins in each of the last two seasons. So yes, 60 wins ought to be in the cards for this Magic team, and if Nelson regains the off-the-dribble shooting touch that made him an All-Star in 2009, 65 isn't out of the question, either.

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60-63 wins is definitely attainable

However I’m going to go with my prediction from last year and say they will win 56. Then again, I was convinced that the Blazers would face the Magic in the Finals last year, so I obviously suck at predictions.

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by funny80sguy on Sep 20, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Nobody could predict last year correctly. The two coldest teams entering the post season were the Celtics and the Lakers. I’ve been almost dead on every year with playoff predictions (obviously just luck) and didn’t even make an attempt last year. I was so confused.

by Mikeyho on Sep 20, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be surprised if they didn’t win at least 60. Winning 59 despite what Vince did in January is amazing. After January our predicted win total was supposed to be 52 or 53. Barring an injury to Jameer or Dwight, they will win 60.

by Mikeyho on Sep 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely doable.

If we can avoid a stretch like we had last January we can easily get there. It will depend on health as always because I think continuity is certainly on our side. Getting that many wins depends almost more on how you play against teams not at your talent level rather than teams at or above your talent level. Also we reside in a very difficult division. I think it’s safe to assume that depending on how Wall works out in Washington, the Southeast could be the toughest division in the NBA for the near future.

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by cgsimone on Sep 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

it was already nearly the toughest division anyways

i think the southwest was the only one that ended up being more difficult due to how attrociously horrible washington ended up, but the SE did have 4 playoff teams last year. Charlotte might not make it back this season, but Washington is definitely going to be improved. Atlanta will obviously depend on how their coach does in the head coaching position.

by MagicMark on Sep 20, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

January

Seems to be the month that cripples the Magic. They either get disinterested or something. I am just not sure. But around Christmas time they just stink it up. Too cold for their Florida feet? Too bust watching college football bowls? NFL playoffs? Baseball offseason? Soccer transfer window? Who knows.

by Mateo9399 on Sep 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

No, I don't think they'll hit sixty wins

Can they? Sure. Will they? Probably not. But who cares?

The real issue is the championship – I think they’ll break the 50 win mark for sure, but as was said in the post (paragraph 2), I’d rather see them playing great in the spring so that the championship comes home in the summer. Of course, SVG doesn’t seem to have a “5” on his dial – it’s all zero or eleven, so it stands to reason that he’ll push the team relentlessly all season.

In general I think people get too caught up in the whole “number of wins” thing. One of the questions ESPN asked their panel earlier this summer was “will the heat break the 72 win record?” Man, what a stupid question. If that happens, I’ll eat my copy of “The Breaks of the Game” with ketchup.

by Redfield on Sep 20, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh sure, make your vow easy by adding the condiment of ketchup

All people know that everything tastes better with ketchup. If you said something like "I’ll eat my copy of “The Breaks of the Game” with a cupful of red pepper flakes" OR “. . . with horse manure”, then that would be a vow worthy of everybody’s admiration.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Sep 20, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I really like the book . . .

 . . . and maybe I’m allergic to ketchup. (Nope.) Really a pledge given more as a literary device than as an actual promise. But I needed something to end my post with.

BTW, some Yahoo author predicted the Magic would hit 60 wins a few days ago. It’s a pretty silly article, but here’s the link if anyone’s interested:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjzKyaX2U6gsrJgb9swcazFJPKB4?slug=ac-6775486

by Redfield on Sep 20, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

More than 50 but not more than 60.

Possibly first or second seed in the east. That would be great. I think we still have to consider Anderson and JJ. If they become a monster off the bench.. look out..

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by silenthero07 on Sep 20, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

60 wins will be difficult

Let’s see, there should be some improvement on this team (hopefully) across the board even with one of my favorite glue guys leaving in Barnes. Also to be noted, while the Heat (damn them all to hell) got much better, two other teams got much worse as a result. So hopefully that means more wins against the Raptors and Cavs. Phoenix declined while New York got better, but I would say that improved our win chances as Phoenix with Amare is much more difficult than New York with him. Boston will be without Perkins and Sheed most likely for awhile which should make them more beatable. Also, when you make it to the Finals, I think the rest of your conference kind of sets you as the king of the hill and tries to knock you from that perch, aka everyone is a little more motivated to beat you. Now we seem to have fallen from everyone’s mindset as the team to beat where Boston and Miami have taken that spotlight. So all of this was to conclude that I think our chances of 60 games is possible, and if nothing else probably better than the chances last year.

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by Eric9321 on Sep 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't believe he has formally filed his retirement paperwork.

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by NC Magic Fan on Sep 20, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

They will win 60 because ...

Dwight Howard will play at the highest level we seen from him for entire season. Dwight will be one of the top 3 mvp canidates if not he will be the MVP.

by GoMagic000 on Sep 20, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

and this will also be

the first time Dwight has taken the summer off. That may very well be a good thing for the Magic next year.

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by Eric9321 on Sep 20, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were patches last season which the Magic under-performed

If they are at full force – and no significant injury – reaching 60 wins is quite possible. By law of averages, positive and negative elements typically cancel each other out. But if there is a leaning towards positives, Magic is capable of doing it since their 4-1 offense creates problems for most teams in the league which cannot defend the system straight up.

by Matt1325 on Sep 20, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

My prediction: 63-19.

Last year was a transitional season for the Magic — they underachieved for the first half of the season, they were bothered by injuries, and they still won 59. Their league-best scoring differential suggests that that total was no fluke.

This year, they’re pretty much locked in from day 1. The only additions they have to make sense of are Richardson and Duhon, and both of those guys are smart veterans who will work their way into the system with little difficulty. Plus they’re in supporting roles, so their presence doesn’t drastically change the way everyone else has to play.

So yeah, I envision something like the Magic’s 33-8, +10 differential second half all year. I knocked off three wins because I’m sure someone will miss some time, but I just don’t see this team facing any real obstacles. For all I know, they might even be better than the second half of last year after another pre-season.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Sep 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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