Why Did we Not Sign Shaq and McGrady????
by Iceberg_Slim on Sep 16, 2010 9:03 PM EDT
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Hi My fellow Magic Fans,
Have any of you been wondering why we didn't sign Shaquille O'Neal or Tracy Mcgrady? Shaquille O'neal took A small 1.4 Million A year and Tracy Took 1.3 Million dollar deal.The price tag for both of those players went down Alot, Do any of you think that Tracy Mcgrady Or Shaquille O'Neal would have been a good fit back into the Orlando System? Would they make good Back Ups?
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Seriously,
Fanshot this or put into one Fanpost.
Honestly ain't I insane I think that's the way I gotta be
Ain't I so so supafly boy ain't nobody hot as me.
They're different topics, so maing them separate FanPosts is correct.
A FanShot here wouldn’t make sense at all. That’s for sharing quotes/videos/photos from, or links to, content from other sites. Not for starting a discussion like this.
But 3 in a row, ben?
And all of them are seriously depleted of content.
Honestly ain't I insane I think that's the way I gotta be
Ain't I so so supafly boy ain't nobody hot as me.
Shaq doesn't like our franchise player, and has openly trashed our head coach.
TMac is beyond his useful days as a player.
Who hasn't openly trashed SVG?
Agreed about T-Mac
As far as Shaq not liking D12, he did let him be on an episode of “Shaq Vs.” this season, so I think the dislike isn’t as strong as many perceive
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't need Shaq
Even if T-Mac has anything left, it’s not worth gambling on that when you’re a championship team.
For the same reason you don’t take back your girlfriend after she sleeps with another dude in your bed. Iceberg, you obviously see nothing wrong with that. So I’ll leave it there.
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by AB's triple double on Sep 17, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Would Tracy Mcgrady Or Shaquille O'Neal would have been a good fit back into the Orlando System?
NO, NO one thousand times NO!
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
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"This dude is huge....I've got to go home and eat like five chickens and put a lot of weight on. It's going to take a couple months, but seriously." - Marcin Gortat about Shaq.
by NC Magic Fan on Sep 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
Because they're both just about worthless at this stage of their careers?
I think that’s the most logical answer
Wrong
You can say that for T-Mac, but its a different story with the Diesel. He’s not the franchise carrier anymore, but he can still guard any big, including Dwight, in the post without help and shoot a very high percentage.
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 17, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on post defense and FG shooting.
But it’s telling that the Cavaliers were 6.1 points better per 100 possessions with Shaq on the bench last year. I think a lot of that has to do with his role. He’s a back-to-the-basket guy who needs plays called for him in order to score. So he instantly, and by necessity, is the focal point of any offense. You take him out, put another guy in, and you get more ball movement, player movement…
I am willing to attribute some of Cleveland’s struggles with Shaq on the floor to Mike Brown’s unimaginative offense. Boston’s isn’t much better, but I have more faith in Doc Rivers’ ability to make Shaq useful than in Mike Brown’s.
His shoddy pick-and-roll defense is also a concern. And has been since he entered the league.
Mike Brown is the worst coach to ever win COY
You could drive a truck through the holes in Brown’s “strategy”
I would disagree that Shaq needs to have plays called for him. I would instead say that a team could run another play, and if that failed, you could always dump it down to him on either block and have a favorable matchup. Even at this stage, I would say Shaq has at least a slight advantage over pretty much every player he faces in the low post.
I agree about the pick-and-roll defense being a concern, as teams could kill you if their jumpers are falling….However, the team in the Eastern Conference that poses the biggest threat to the Celtics (the Heat, sorry guys) is exactly the type of team you want shooting jumpers.
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t agree with that. I don’t have any advanced statistical metrics cooked up by a team of experts at MIT to back this up, but I have watched every nationally televised game Shaq has played in since ’92, so this is based purely upon my extensive observations.
On offense, Shaq’s man does not leave him. Shaq is very limited in his offensive weaponry at this point (what the heck ever happened to his baseline turn around???), but what he does have is effective. Opposing centers know this and are far less likely to leave him to help close out on driving players because of this. They know that if they leave Shaq to help out, there’s a good chance the ball will be dumped to him for an easy score. Shaq gets no statistical credit for this and it is, IMO, highly underutilized by his teammates (Coach Brown, grrrr!). I don’t know if there is a stat somewhere that shows this, but I would think that driving teammates of Shaq’s are far less likely to have their shot challenged at the rim when Shaq is in the game.
Another way that Shaq is useful without scoring is by simply being on the court. When Shaq is out there, you need a big body to match up with him. You can’t simply run some “high-octane” offense with a scrawny 4 posing as a 5. For example, the Bobcats talking about using Diaw at center for a more up-tempo game…that’s not a possibility unless you want Diaw to foul out quickly. Which I guess brings me to another point….although Shaq is a horrible free throw shooter, he does still easily draw fouls and gets opposing teams into the penalty quicker.
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 18, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So
The summary of Shaq’s offensive usefulness (unless having the offense run primarily for him) is that you have to guard him, and he draws fouls.
So he’s…one step up from a Christmas tree?
by eltharion_doa on Sep 21, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You guard and foul Christmas trees?
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 21, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Until the Santa Ornament proves it can shoot free throws, then yes.
That’s just sound basketball strategy.
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by funny80sguy on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s never good to refer to yourself as “funny”, because it rarely pans out that way….like now
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 22, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
And very endearing.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Sep 22, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
dude
dude
I'm a girl.
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by TheGiantSquid on Sep 22, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No
If you had to guard and foul a Christmas tree, he would be a Christmas tree.
by eltharion_doa on Sep 22, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure...
If that’s the only offense that’s run against him…run a pick and roll aginst him and he’s completely worthless.
Shaq And Mcgrady
I believe Shaq Would have been a decent backup and we could have kept Gortat as well. I think Shaq Could help Dwight Become the New Shaq. I also Believe that Mcgrady’s Knees have him Tapped out. I think her will contribute to detroit but He won’t shine for them, I think this might be his final year in the NBA. Shaquille O’neal will have most impact on his team this year and will be a difficult matchup against Orlando, Especially in Febuary when Rasheed Wallace Is Set to make his return to fill that last Playoff Roster Spot for the Celtics.
He can come back before year is up, but only with unanimous vote by all 30 teams
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 18, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Never said that....just simply stated a fact
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 20, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
and if you read what was posted above, or paid attention to any of the news from last season
it is painfully evident that shaq would not get along with dwight, nor does he care for stan van gundy. it simply would not have worked at all.
Plus
He’s an a$$hole…I don’t know why anybody old enough to remember his time here would ever want him back.
Shaq has 4 times more rings than everyone on the Magic roster combined.
He must have done something right, considering he was hands-down the Finals MVP in 3 of those 4 ’ships
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 18, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Who gives a crap how many rings he has. He is an uneffective player at this point in his career, and he dislikes our star player and hates our coach.
No one here wants him on the team, and it is unlikely that anyone in the front office wants him on the team either, so the point is probably moot.
You can be as angry as you want, but its true
You think Shaq wanted to come to Orlando anyway? He wants to spend his last couple years on a team that could possibly win it all.
And it is “ineffective”, not “uneffective”.
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 20, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So why do you care when we say we don't want Shaq here?
And Boston has just as good of a chance at winning the championship this year as Orlando does.
Shaq has been doing the ring chasing for 5 years now, and I don’t think it will end up any different in Beantown.
So
Orlando don’t want Shaq, Shaq don’t want Orlando.
What, exactly, is the point of all this then?
by eltharion_doa on Sep 21, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
my dad still likes him :(
I'm a girl.
Join us in the march to Keep Fear Alive!
by TheGiantSquid on Sep 21, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
this is true...
I'm a girl.
Join us in the march to Keep Fear Alive!
by TheGiantSquid on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Good to know you are all still bitter about him leaving your franchise in shambles 14 yrs ago
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 22, 2010 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to see you are so happy to be rid of him in Phoenix,
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by NC Magic Fan on Sep 22, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I am completely consumed with him leaving the franchise in shambles. I spend every waking moment thinking about Shaq.
Or maybe we are just making jokes? I mean, watch this trailer, and tell me that it is not totally freaking hilarious!
Chiming in with your emoticons and lack of substance again, squid?
Try to contribute something
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 22, 2010 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions
okay
I sure will try!!! Oh I hope people on the internet like me!!! Especially gigantic jerks like you! :D?
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I'm a girl.
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by TheGiantSquid on Sep 22, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Personal attacks are awesome
Yeah
and very endearing
(Apologies to MagicMark and funny80sguy for stealing their lines, but seems somehow oddly appropriate.)
Oh snap
I guess I got told……?? Or something…?
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Sep 22, 2010 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions
we were just debating your pointless "reasons" for posting here
i just threw out a hypothesis
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