Orlando Magic News for August 4th: Defense Dictates the Power Forward Rotation
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Print- Brandon Bass’ playing time will depend on Brandon Bass, Van Gundy says – Orlando Magic BasketBlog
Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy says Brandon Bass and Ryan Anderson will get more playing time this year, but they both must make strides defensively, reports Josh Robbins of the Orlando Sentinel. Here's Van Gundy:
I think that our hope is and our expectation is that they’re both fairly young guys. Particularly on the defensive end, I think our expectations in terms of what they have to know are fairly high and that a second year will help them. Our expectation is that they both will be able to play better on that end of the floor. I hope we’ll see improvement.
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- Magic: Get used to playing…second fiddle – Orlando Magic BasketBlog
Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel writes that the Miami Heat's power grab will draw plenty of media attention to South Beach, which means the Magic should try to get accustomed to being also-rans in Florida, as far as the media are concerned. "This is [Dwight] Howard's worst nightmare," he says.
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I agree about Magic being second fiddle to Miami from now on. Then again, when were we ever not the underdog?
Bass and Anderson are both defensive liabilities right now. The difference is, Bass will still give 110% on the defensive end after a missed shot.
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by gatorboi352 on Aug 4, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When you don't know what you are suppose to do, does 110% make you 10% worse?
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by NC Magic Fan on Aug 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
10% worse than who?
Anderson? No one is worse than Anderson defensively. Let him miss a 3 or two and you’re good as 4 on 5 out there.
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Anderson's a better defender than Bass
Give up a point less per 100 possessions to his direct opponent, and knows the defensive rotations. Bass is a better individual post up defender, but Anderson’s better overall.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 4, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
another brandon bass thread
over/under on 250 posts for this one?
I call 350 at least.
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by 4QB on Aug 4, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
no idea
people must be enamored with guys who shoot mid-range jumpshots on a team that doesn’t shoot mid-range jumpshots while being completely lost on team defense on a team that completely stresses team defense
I’ve never encountered another site on the web that is Magic oriented with such a unified hate towards Bass. You’d swear RA’s family ran this place.
www.southsyde.com
Probably haven’t encountered a Magic site as well versed in advanced stats.
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by betterthanburke on Aug 4, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't listen to Stat Guy
as Colin Cowherd refers to them. Stat Guy has no wife, or a disgruntled parter if they do, and throws numbers out there as if they were the bible.
Sometimes you gotta just watch the games.
And please save me the pro-stat infested article about how our eyes are deceiving us and how we should live by stat numbers.
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i watched the games
brandon bass missed tons of defensive rotations
what can you say about that? (besides the tired, oh he didn’t get enough playing time to acclimate himself to the team defensive system – these guys earn their playing time in PRACTICE)
But we're talking about PRACTICE here
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I don't think we're talking about practice.
But that’s a guess.
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We up here talkin’ bout PRACTICE
I don't see why you would oppose stats.
If a stat tells you a certain player gets more available rebounds, why would you disregard that? Because Bass has larger shoulders? Sorry, stats don’t lie.
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by betterthanburke on Aug 4, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm marrying my high-school sweetheart next year, man. Please, please, please let's not make this personal.
You don’t like stats? Fine. You and I have different methods of evaluating players. But let’s not pretend like people who do put some faith in statistics are poor losers with nothing better to do. That point of view does nothing to help your argument.
Basically, what I’m saying—and not just to you—is that we need to raise the level of discourse here.
by Evan Dunlap on Aug 4, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
All this proves is that your GF is in love with a stats nerd.
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by pookeyguru on Aug 5, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
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by magicfaninTN on Aug 5, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
My eyes are in line with the numbers, actually.
It’s your eyes that don’t seem to match up with what actually happened. That’s all stats are, after all — a record of what actually happened.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
Yeah, I dont know whats up with that
Bass certainly didnt do alot to impress us last season but theres something there. Anderson played well during Shards suspension but he fell out of the rotation for a reason. Im not going to throw out the race card, but the love for Anderson and Reddick kinda makes me wonder sometimes.
so now people are racist for thinking a player is better than another player
when every statistic supports such a belief
gotcha
I said Im not going to throw the race card out there
But these guys are at best decent backups. The way some carry on over Anderson and Reddick in particular is kinda sickening sometimes.
Redick was the most efficient offensive player in the league last season.
And Chicago was prepared to make him a starter on what appears to be a very strong team. I think that makes him a little bit better than a ‘decent’ backup.
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Aug 4, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
See what I mean.
Redick is too short and too slow to EVER be a starter on a contender. If he ends up starting for the Magic for any length of time, we are in deep sh*t. Its a helluva alot easier to play well for 15-20 minutes a night than it is 35 or 40. The Anderson Bass comparison is, for one thing an apples and oranges deal. And the data is incomplete on both players to say Anderson is a superior to Bass. But to read the post in here you would think Bass is a special needs child out there. Who did SVG go with in the playoffs?
Bass
Because he had offense, not defense.
Anderson’s offense was absolutely awful in the playoffs. That’s why van Gundy switched to Bass – he was making shots.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 5, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
except, you know those games where JJ played 40+ minutes when Vince was out
and averaged close to 20 ppg.
I had to do it
Ive been taking alot peoples word for it on the stats when comparing Bass and Anderson. Well I finally broke down and just took a look. The basic stats, the advanced stats, per 36 minutes, all of it. The differences between the guys is so negligible and SO VERY INCONCLUSIVE due the how little they played it only re-enforces my suspicions. Anderson is not FAR SUPERIOR to Bass. What he gains is some categories he loses in others. There is not enough information to make a case for either guy.
I, unlike others, do not dismiss the data
I dont make conclusions based on data alone or observation alone. But the data in a Magic uniform is inconclusive. The personel and coaching strategies can make a world of difference, especially for role players. See Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee, Darko, Keith Bogans, Keyon Dooling, Maurice Evans.
The only thing I can bring that most OPP members cant
Is I had the opportunity to play 4 years of college ball. Nothing to brag about really, but I had to go through the try out process and read the scouting reports on myself. Being judged like a piece of meat is very humbling. I would like to know things like what is Andersons standing vert compared to Bass’. 1/2 court speed, 3/4 court speed, wing span, max reach etc. You can teach a good athlete to be a good player, you cant teach a good player to be a good athlete. I heard that phrase too many times to count between high school and college.
Three better axioms.
You can teach some athletes to become marginally okay players, as long as you’re not expecting them to have good instincts or anything.
If a guy’s a good player but not a good athlete, let him go — he’s getting the results, right?
If a guy’s in his mid-20s, and he still hasn’t learned to be a good player, he’s probably just not a good player.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
You're going to have to show your working
Because nothing I’ve seen supports that opinion. No, the difference between Anderson and Bass isn’t enormous – we’re not talking James Posey vs LeBron James here – but it’s substantial in every advanced metric I’ve seen.
If you’ve seen otherwise, you’re going to have to tell us about it rather than just saying it.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 5, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone help me out on this one
Ive seen the physical scouting report on Bass and its very impressive. Standing vert 33" to 35", 3/4 court speed: 3.24 seconds, 7’2’’ wingspan, 8’4’’ reach. I cant seem to find one on Anderson though. Just general assesments like “lacks lateral mobility for a perimeter player”, good rebounding instincts" and so forth. As far as Redick goes, most of his improvement has been in the skill area. He has done alot of strength training which has certainly helped. I’ll bet hes gained a few inches on his vert and maybe knocked a tenth or so off his various speed drills. But no matter how much he trains, he will never get taller, increase his reach or wingspan or be able to play above the rim and will continue to get torched by most 2s. And keep in mind his defensive ratings, as the case with most Magic players, are skewed by having Dwight playing behind them.
Who cares about his physicals?
All I’m interested in is what he does ON THE COURT. Bass could have a vertical leap of Superman but if he shoots 40% on mid range jumpers, he’s rubbish. (Not that Bass has the vertical leap of Superman or that poor FG%.)
I only just basketball players on one thing. What. They. Do. Playing. Basketball.
Athletes? Don’t care. Race? Don’t care. Background? Don’t care. Nationality? Don’t care. Show me what you got on the court. That’s all that counts.
And on the court, in Orlando, Anderson’s a proven better performer than Bass is. Bass isn’t bad – Anderson’s just better. Offensively and defensively. No contest.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
its ironic that he is using stats
because most of the bass apologists were arguing before that stats can’t be looked at as the total view of the player. the same can be said of measurements, verticle, etc. a player has to be basketball smart, and anderson plays a significantly “smarter” game of basketball than bass does, imo.
Dont lump me in with the "Bass apologist"
I, unlike you two, havent made up my mind on either player. I never discounted the stats, but I will take other things into consideration, like personal experience. As far as the physical stuff goes, I was only pointing out its easier to teach someone a defensive scheme than it is to add 10’’ to their vertical. As far as Im concerned both men are nothing more than decent, situational backups right now. And both show signs they can be a bigger contributor to the team.
You're wrong
The only thing I’ve made my mind up about is that Anderson was better last season.
If Bass shows he’s better this season, then I’ll think he’s better. But he has to do it on the court, with his production, not in magical fairy land of people’s dreams and imaginations and vertical leaps.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 7, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, Bass will have to prove himself on the court
As far as a “magical fairyland of peoples dreams and imaginations” go, I have no idea what you are referring to. The land of vertical leaps is called BASKETBALL. If you have ever been dunked on or had your shot sent into the third row you would know that.
But those kinds of raw numbers don't matter...
…except insofar as they already are mattering. If Bass was a prospect who had never played an NBA game, they might be interesting numbers. But at this point, what do we know about Bass? Well, we know how high he can jump. We also have several seasons of statistics describing what he has actually done in games, which is approximately three million times more relevant.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
"Time is the school in which we learn"
As long as a player is interested in getting better their skill level will increase until the day they put ball down. Thats why 28ish is considered most players peak. Their skill level has increased with expierience before their body starts to break down. Im 39 and still play b-ball with my son and his HS team. If I could put my 39 year old skills in my 18 year old body I would torch those punks. Same holds true for NBA players, watch the evolution of MJs game.
Well, Bass is a lot closer to that peak than Anderson.
And given that his ‘07-’08 stats were almost identical to his ‘08-’09 stats, and then he obviously dropped across the board in ‘09-10, I don’t see a lot of support for the notion that he’s got a lot of potential that he’s growing into. Either he doesn’t have room to improve, or he’s not putting in the work.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
Yao Ming
Has a tiny vertical leap, yet he seems to do OK.
Obviously he’s rubbish, though. Can’t block, can’t rebound, can’t score.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 9, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yao is also 7'6" tall with a reach about a 10' reach
Same vert in a 6’8" body and yes, he would be garbage.
Redundant on the "reach"
You get the point though.
Yao is good
Because he has amazing positional awareness and great touch around the basket, not because he has long arms.
Measureables are meaningless. Performance is the only thing that matters. Yao performs.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 10, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
By that standard Steve Nash should be the greatest center of all time
Im sorry, but saying the ability to touch the rim without leaving your feet isnt a huge advantage is ridiculous. For those of you that say size and athleticism dont mattter, Yao is about the worst example you can use. Hes not athletic, but hes freakin HUGE. Other guys like Manute Bol, Shawn Bradley and George Murasan only played because they were giant freaks. Yao actually seems to be interested in playing and uses that size to his advantage.
Yeah, good one
Anyone who prefers a clearly and substantially better player is a racist.
Brilliant.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 4, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
At least twice.
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ive never encountered people that think brandon bass was at least somewhat passable on defense this last yer
i didn’t even mention ryan anderson in the post you replied to, it was you who brought him in to the discussion. I don’t hate Brandon Bass, but he was extremely uneffective on defense last year. You will not be able to prove otherwise.
Please tell me how Anderson was any better than Bass on D last year? Just because dude hit some 3s early in the year means about as much as Bass’ contributions last year.
The problem is RA is a less talented Rashard Lewis in EVERY way, especially on D. With Rashard going NOWHERE, why do we have a half assed version of him coming off the bench when he’s out?
Also, I’ve yet to see anyone explain to me how we got to the finals just fine 2 years ago with Tony freakin Battie backing up Rashard but think we couldn’t with Bass?
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He's better at defending midrange shooters
He’s better at defending the perimeter. He’s better at rotating on defensive assignments, he’s better at help defense. He’s better at controlling cutters, and, just because why not, he gets more steals. His allows his opponents less points than Bass does.
Bass is a better one on one interior defender – but because we have Dwight, we’re great at interior defense anyway, so Bass’ best strength is of marginal utility – and he’s a better blocker.
He’s utterly useless on rotations and on any player with a mid or long range shot.
We got to the finals with Tony freakin’ Battie backing up Lewis because Lewis played better. It had nothing to do with his backup.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 4, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, he's better at rebounding.
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by 4QB on Aug 4, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Are they?
Ryan was nearly a rebound better per 36, last year.
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by 4QB on Aug 4, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
About 10% difference
Bass was 12.1 and Anderson 13.4% or something like that.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 5, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
According to basketball-reference:
Bass 11.3% (10.0% ORB, 12.6% DRB)
Anderson 12.8% (9.2% ORB, 16.2% DRB)
Those were career worsts for both of them, although one thing of note in Bass’ stats is that each year his ORB rate has increased, while his DRB rate has mostly declined. Part of that may be due to switching teams, but it’s something to keep an eye on this season.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
But Anderson showed steady improvement as a rebounder over the course of the season.
Bass’ numbers stayed essentially flat.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
We all know how Coach Van Gundy stresses defense
Both Bass and Anderson should show improvement on defense this season, since this is their second season with the team.
Since Anderson fits in a lot better offensively because of his long-range shooting, and is a better rebounder defensively, I still expect him to see more playing time than Bass when all is said and done this season.
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by Mike from Illinois on Aug 4, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
it still blows my mind how RA is a better rebounder than Bass.
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Aug 4, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
theyre statistically almost the same in the rebounding department
bass is also shorter than anderson
Rebounding is almost all about positioning.
Bass is somewhat stronger (and somewhat shorter), but Anderson has more of an intuitive sense for where to be at any given point. It’s true on defense, and it’s true on the boards.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
2nd fiddle? I'd say more like 3rd, 4th or 5th . . .
1- The Heat are and always will be #1 no matter what they win or don’t win
2- The Lakers are as long as they have Kobe and are still, you know, the CHAMPS
3- The Celtics are older than Moses’ grandma but until the Magic prove they can beat them they’re #3
4- Magic just because their isn’t anyone better yet but OKC is gaining ground fast
I just pray that this doesn’t lead to Dwight thinking he can never win here or gets sooo sick of being “HEATED” to death that he decides to “take his talents” elsewhere" when it’s time for him to re-up. I don’t think I could bare another HOF center walking out on us!
That’s why I pray that NOH eventually breaks down and sends Paul our way. CP3 will do wonders to balance this situation and keeping Dwight happy.
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I still say we’re above them. They haven’t even won a game yet. We’ll only know till the end of the season.
IF we aren't going to play Bass than we need to trade him soon
same with Gortata, we need to trade them while they are young and their value is high…. We NEED a flat out scorer, someone to compliment our defense, we need points on the board, i dont care how we do it, Play conventional,play inconventinal, i don’t care>JUST SCORE SOME POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We *are* going to play Bass
Although maybe not as much as he’d like.
As for scoring – we had the 6th most points per game last season, and the 4th highest offensive efficiency. What’s the problem?
As for needing a flat out scorer – even if that’s true, do you really think we’re going to get one in a trade for Brandon Bass?
by eltharion_doa on Aug 4, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Play inconventional
Now, there’s an idea!
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by Wally Balls 407 on Aug 4, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya
our secret weapon the ‘Gortata’ will help us be more inconventional than 5 Lebrons.
by CubFanRaysaddict on Aug 4, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't care what the media think
Of us vs Miami. They can write all the stories they want about the Superfriends, we need to go out there and win games of basketball.
If Bass earns his playing time, good for him and good for us.
McGrady’s probably the most talented player to get never get any support in his career. He’s, at best, played with one great player and a bunch of absolute scrubs and that’s not getting it done in the NBA. Most of the he hasn’t even had that in the playoffs. I hope it works out for him, but he needs to swallow his pride and do a Shaq and take less money and a supporting role – his time as a #1 or #2 offensive option is done.
Bass and Anderson are going to VERY VERY Important
Bosh pretty much runs over, around and through Shard. Someones gotta stop Bosh. I know Anderson had a better year last season, but I have a feeling Bass will win out next season.
I say sic Bass on Bosh.
Bosh is an All-Star, NOT a Superstar. Bass will do well defensively on him. Now, if we could only stop Wade from dropping 30+ on us all the time..
"Wade from dropping 30+ on us all the time.."
Wade will be forced to get away from tactics like that with coworkers such as LeBron and Bosh around him, thank god.
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Brandon Bass
Has shown absolutely no ability at any point in his career to defend rangy PFs like Chris Bosh.
by eltharion_doa on Aug 4, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This pretty much.
He may fair well when Bosh tries to post him up with his back to the basket but the second Chris squares up to the hoop on the elbow and puts the ball on the floor it’s all but over for Bass.
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by Wally Balls 407 on Aug 4, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
B Bass
Bass will win out, and Van Gundy is blaming a lack of playing time due too defensive laps. Well those laps never cost the magic a game. I can remember two games last year due to a failure to box out. Matt barnes not boxing out on Beasley and Rashard not boxing out on Josh smith. If Bass plays more the more he’ll fit the system.
by MagicNation on Aug 4, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
he has to earn it in practice
van gundy is not blaming lack of playing time to his defensive lapses, he did not know the defensive system of the team after a years worth of practices. he still got lost on the defensive rotations even in the playoffs.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to just cut and paste entire comment threads for Bass posts?
Same old, same old.
Everyone did notice that the coach gave the same reason for [lack of] playing time that BQR has been saying all along, right?
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
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but but but
his defense is unquantifiable, no stat can do it justice!
once we trade him, he'll lead the league in rebounds and become defensive player of the year.
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Aug 4, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he'll be better-
You watch- he will be MVP and Queen James will Sulk in all his ungloriousness.
So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found
Ben's Agenda-
Make 350 comment threads about Bass, Tease us with CP3, and something else…
So you can keep knocking but won't knock me down
No love lost, no love found
My only agenda is to write about the Magic. I'm only doing my job here, everyone.
(this message isn’t directed solely at you, man)
Stan's only agenda is to win
If Stan Gundy thought for one second that Brandon Bass could help him get more wins he would play him. Professional coaches are all about wins….whatever it takes, whoever it takes to play.
Make no mistake, Stan doesn’t care how much they make, whether they are black, white or green, if they can help him win…they will play.
If, as a professional coach, you don’t win…you get replaced.
Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.
Why the Sentinel sucks imo.
What the heck is this? Am I reading the Miami Herald? Why dont you tell us how you really feel Schmitz. Only newspaper in the country where the columnists hate all the local teams (except for the Gaytors that is).
James owns the state of Florida now. He’s clearly the biggest athlete in the peninsula and will be for the next decade. The Heat will win some titles, likely knocking out the Magic to get there.
Im not saying what he wrote is absolutely wrong…its just the way he put it. Pretty depressing read. Geez, Schmitz sucks…
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Someone must have told good ol' Schmitzy there was a job opening at the Miami Herald.
Oh wait… local newspapers are caving like the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl.
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by Wally Balls 407 on Aug 5, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Conspiracy theory
Is the Sentinel still owned by Tribune Media out of CHICAGO? Those d-bags are determined to f up the Magic any way they can. Oh, and did I mention SCHMITZ IS AN ASS! Always has been, always will be. Please retire already.
I believe you're right.
On both account. Schmitz is a hack.
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by Wally Balls 407 on Aug 7, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was kinda looking forward to some discussion NOT relating Brandon Bass
There was another damn good article in the list – the Mcgrady manifesto.
Hey, if you don't have an idea for an article
just write a headline using Brandon Bass and you’ll get 100’s of responses.
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by NC Magic Fan on Aug 6, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
McGrady? Pshaw.
The only retired Magic player I care about is Darrell Armstrong.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
I will say this about Bass, though.
As much as his oft-discussed troubles with rotations are a problem, I have to ask: how much of that is due to his fishing for offensive rebounds? I have to suspect that, if you’re regularly getting back late, this not only affects transition D but also your ability to keep up with what’s going on in the half-court set.
(Mind you, I’m around 93% sure that Stan isn’t telling Bass to try so hard for offensive boards — he just does it. But what if he told him NOT to?)
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
We're grasping at straws here for Bass' sake.
I can’t wait for the season to start… This is a dark time.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
Trust me, I'm not doing anything for Bass' sake.
My point is, if Bass comes in late and has to pick up the half-court offense already in progress, that might be tougher than getting back first and having a couple seconds to orient himself. Just something to think about.
(But not at the expense of PT for Anderson.)
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
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