Orlando Magic News for August 23rd: Misconceptions, the Pick-and-Roll, and Zone Defense
by Evan Dunlap on Aug 23, 2010 5:00 PM EDT
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- Some Inaccurate Criticisms of the Orlando Magic | Magic Basketball
Eddy sets the record straight on some rather silly points one SLAM writer made about the Orlando Magic...
- Playbook: The 2/5 Pick and Roll | Magic Basketball
... and illustrates how Vince Carter and Dwight Howard run their side pick-and-rolls.
- NBA.com: Casey: How to handle the Heat, and how Miami has to counter
Zone defense guru Don Casey, filling in for David Aldridge on NBA.com's Morning Tip column, explains how a matchup zone could prove effective against the new-look Miami Heat.
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Casey doesnt seem to understand that the Van Gundy's quotes were largely satirical in nature.
I am 100% positive that neither of them were actually serious.
That's how I took Stan's comments as well.
But Casey did write a fantastic article there and there are many good points in how to stop the Heat.
Now that SLAM article? I don’t know where they’re getting their information.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
There are 3 totally different issues included in this post, but I will focus on the first item
Has Magic upgraded this summer? My answer is: it’s a wash.
1 – Barnes v. Richardson; defensively Barnes and offensively Richardson, but that is not a wash. I agree that Pietrus is the best Magic perimeter defender, but with Barnes gone we are gonna have one less defender to rely on, and that could translate to more load and more fouls piled on Dwight. Eddy is right that Barnes shooting inefficiency against BOS proved costly to us, last year. But the complexion of East has changed, and especially against MIA, we need to rely on defense as much as on offense.
2 – Point guard position; here is an upgrade which makes me to believe that the team is just about at the same level of strength as last year.
3 – The “Stan on the Hot Seat” is just as silly as it gets. Coaches like SVG could only be at jeopardy when losses pile up, or star players lose faith in the coach
controversy is what gets people to read articles by writers so that is what they write
id say 90% of the writers who post that sensationalist stuff probably dont even know that stan just got a contract extension this offseason. there were people who even thought that he was goign to get fired after we were eliminated from the finals by LA two post-seasons ago.
Coaches also get the Axe when they can't get over the hump..
Finals+Eastern Conf. Finals+Anything other than a Championship= Fired to me…
so we should just roll a dice each year to see where the 29 coaches who didnt win the championship should go
sounds awesome!
Who said anything about rolling dice?
We got to the finals 2 years ago, last season to Conf. finals. That’s a decline. We should’ve went all the way last season, cool, we didn’t. But I bet not winning it all will show concern at the coaches position. Someone will have to take the blame.
-Guess where you’re from y’all roll dice for every major decision?
the series against boston cannot be put squarely on stan's shoulders
we crushed both charlotte and atlanta, and all of a sudden stan turned into a bad coach at that point? the players lost us the ECF, not stan. yes the coaching staff deserves blame, but if the criteria for being fired is not winning the championship every three years, then phil jackson would be the only coach in the league
That is debatable, as it relates to Stan Van Gundy
I personally think that Coach Van Gundy’s escape/excuse would be that he never had a traditional roster in Orlando. Correct me if I am mistaken, but I don’t think that Stan Van Gundy came to Orlando with the scheme/intention to run a 4-1 system. The initial thought was to use Darko and Dwight at C/PF interchangeably, but then the opportunity of having Rashard Lewis appeared too good to pass up. The presence of Rashard combined with availability of other long-range marksmen inspired coach Van Gundy to set the system up as he did, which considering the personnel at the time was brilliant. The reason that it worked so well was that SVG allowed players to shoot 3-pointers at will, and never cringed when they missed.
I am in agreement with this quote 110%...
“but even with Dwight Howard in the paint, this team is still primarily made up of guys who love to shoot from the outside and a squad built that way will never win a championship. Ever.”
110%.
so go root for some other team that can win the championship then
since we obviously cant
by MagicMark on Aug 23, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mark, Stop sweating me...
SERIOUSLY.
You don’t like my opinons, Fine. You don’t see me riding you every time you yap your gums, -only in retaliation to your smarty remarks. You go over the edge every time I say something. What, you went to the same High School I went to and I picked on you in Phys ed. or something?
So what I agree with that quote.. SO WHAT? Deal with it! I bet I’m not the only one!
i am dealing with it
this is a message board so i am posting messages. don’t like it, dont reply to me. you are posting your opinions, and i am posting mine.
The Rockets team that beat us in the Finals kinda seems like that.
Drexler wasn’t necessarily a shooter though. But you did have Robert Horry, Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Scott Brooks, etc. on that team. They were anchored by Hakeem in the middle. That wasn’t really a 4-out/1-in offense necessarily, but I remember them having a lot of guys that could shoot anchored by Olajuwon in the paint.
Or maybe I’m remembering it wrong. That was a long time ago.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
Drexler was a slasher
He drove in the lane constantly drawing doubles forcing O’neal to commit, leaving Olajuwon to clean up the boards. Don’t forget Cassell doing the same thing, also killing us with mid-range jumpers.
Robert Horry played more of a traditional PF role.. Didn’t he average close to 10 boards a game in that series? And I know he had some blocks. I remember he was crashing the boards and landed straight on his tailbone or something. I still remember the look on his face.
Don't feed the troll..
We know thats the way our team’s set up, and that nonsense about “it’ll never happen” is ignorant because no one can predict the future. The Magic might never be able to do it but records are meant to be broken.
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