Off-Day Open Thread: Will Brandon Bass or Marcin Gortat Become the Orlando Magic's "Goon" in the Season Ahead?
by Evan Dunlap on Aug 15, 2010 12:00 AM EDT
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PrintWhile acknowledging that every day in the offseason is technically an off-day, let's proceed with our first off-day open thread of the summer: will either Brandon Bass or Marcin Gortat become the Orlando Magic's enforcer this season? I ask the question because Austin Burton said either of those two players could join the ranks of the league's best goons, because Burton really likes the idea of the Magic pairing franchise center Dwight Howard with a hardass at power forward.
Here's what Burton says qualifies a player as a goon:
The guy brought in to play rough, to be an a-hole, to use his fouls (smartly) and try to get in the opponent’s head. It’s part Dennis Rodman, part Shane Battier, part Alvin Mack in The Program.
And here's what he says about Bass and Gortat:
Another pick for the future. Now that the Magic have first-round pick Daniel Orton to develop as a legit backup for Dwight Howard, Bass and Gortat can become the NBA’s Acolyte Protection Agency. They should even go all-out and wear black gloves when they check into a game. Dwight has needed an enforcer (or two) for a while now.
Setting aside the tenuous idea that Orton, who hardly stood out in summer-league play, is a rotation-caliber player at this point, and the iffy notion that Howard needs help inside, I now ask you to consider if either Bass or Gortat will step up to be Orlando's "goon" in 2010/11. You can vote in the poll attached to this post. RSS readers, please visit OrlandoPinstripedPost.com to participate in the poll. Voting ends tonight at 11:55 PM Eastern.
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The poll doesn't make much sense.
It should be worded, "Who will become the Magic’s “goon” in the season ahead?", and it should have options for Bass, Gortat, neither (or both, possibly).
That said, I don’t think either one. I fully expect one of them to be traded by the deadline, and whoever’s remaining is going to be much more important than Orton. We will not be able to afford goonery from an important bench contributor. We don’t have a Jason Collins or Magloire in our rotation, thankfully.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
agreed
I thinks bass would be far more likely to take on this role, due to his mentality. Ideally they would want a player like Maurice Lucas. to be that player but not not many like him any more
Collins should be the man!
Gortat is too important to assume that role, although I could see Bass giving the extra push because he got the attitude but Collins could make himself noted real quick if he wanted….
Our goon signed with the Lakers
No one else on the team is going to assume that role, maybe Quentin. I don’t think he’ll take unnecessary fouls, but he has that, “I don’t mind getting in people’s face attitude.”
Daniel Orton
Sorry, link was missing.
Here’s the video of Daniel Orton
http://www.basketballelite.com/index.php/sports-business/daniel-orton-interview-nba-summer-league/
*Unrelated*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO-mkYrzq1I
VC in the past
by Raptorel on Aug 15, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was at that game.
The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.
by ben_gleicher on Aug 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
too bad we didn't get that version of VC last year
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Aug 15, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I absolutely hate that he doesn't have that swagger anymore
You can see in his body language in that game that every shot was shot with supreme confidence and swagger. He doesn’t have that now. But when he played for the Nets… that team had a totally different dynamic. He knew he had to be the man so he behaved like an alpha male in that team, scoring wise. He had the confidence because he knew people were looking at him as the premiere player so he was more “arrogant”. Now he thinks of himself as a role player and acts as one, with no confidence whatsoever and even timidity (!).
That’s what I hate about what he is now, because he CAN be the player that you see in that video any time he wants it. It’s not age. It’s confidence. 90% of his problems are mental and with like 10% loss of strength.
The true VC is the one from the New Orleans game. I think Ben can say that I’m right having see him in person…
Orlando doesn't need a "goon" unless they trade Dwight Howard in-conference.
The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.
We don't need a goon
We simply need every player on the roster to want to win as badly as Dwight & Jameer.
Dwight’s the anchor and enforcer. As long as the hard fouls don’t bother him mentally we’re fine because they’re not going to stop him physically. If a Rodman like talent was avaialable then sure you either move Rashard to the 3 or to the bench but neither Bass nor Gortat can sniff Rashard’s jock at PF so any minutes they eat up, on everage, make us undeniably worse.
"It can be done, you can just crush somebody"
everage is something like average
"It can be done, you can just crush somebody"
Only it last longer, like in foreverage.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
"This dude is huge....I've got to go home and eat like five chickens and put a lot of weight on. It's going to take a couple months, but seriously." - Marcin Gortat about Shaq.
by NC Magic Fan on Aug 16, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dwights the most brutal, scary SOB in the league.
He doesnt need a physical protector. He just needs someone eat a few fouls for him on the inside. If he can get to the 4th with no more than 3 fouls he can be aggressive on both ends and the Magic are in good shape.
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