Orlando Magic Free-Agency Rumors, Day Seven: Al Harrington's Name Surfaces
by Evan Dunlap on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 AM EDT
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PrintTwo reports linking the Orlando Magic and free agent big man Al Harrington emerged yesterday. To my knowledge, Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated was the first media member to connect the Magic with Harrington, a high-usage, low-efficiency, shoot-first veteran:
SI sources say Al Harrington was in serious talks with Orlando that recently fell apart. Harrington looking at Utah, New Jersey and Clips.
Hours later, FanHouse's Chris Tomasson sent this Twitter message indicating that a deal might still be in the works:
There are still talks going on with Orlando about possible sign and trade being arranged & New York free agent Al Harrington going to Magic
Despite the negative reputation Harrington has as an unapologetic gunner, I understand the appeal, insofar as Harrington can score, and the Magic need shot-creators off their bench. At the same time, he's not appreciably better than incumbent backup power forward Ryan Anderson at anything, really, and the Magic's biggest need is to find a low-usage, defense-oriented perimeter player.
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lol great pic
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
please no as well
al harrington may be able to hit a few three’s and that is a big maybe,
i just dont see him as a disciplined basketball player, and stan van gundy runs his teams with discipline.
Orlando shoots a lot of threes but they also play great defense, and after watching the horrid defense Harrington played in New York, I dont like this idea, especially after the Miami Trio have decided to join forces. Harrignton is not someone Orlando needs.
by doolzdoubledribble.blogspot.com on Jul 9, 2010 3:28 AM EDT reply actions
i liked his game when he was with the Pacers, he was a useful 2nd or 3rd option.
But another undersized power forward?
I wonder how serious was serious…was Otis prepared to accomodate him in order to cut Bass?
Surely if they were considering Harrington...
…they’d be considering moving him to small forward? I don’t know what he played in New York, but last I checked, Harrington was a natural SF. (Of course, he may have lost too much speed to do that, like Shard. I can’t disprrove that.)
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
i clearly remember his Pacer days, and he was the SF, or the backup
he was traded to the Hawks in exchange of Stephen Jackson. But yeah the term stretch 4 would loosely extend to him
Yeah, if he was a 4, he would definitely be a 4 of the stretch variety.
Not that we need another one of those… mind you, I’m behind the 4-1 100%, but Lewis and Anderson are enough to execute it. They don’t need a third guy with less skill than Lewis and less potential than Anderson.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
OT: Since I had to wait to 4am to find out what would go down
I went to sleep knowing that I would wake up to LBJ’s desciscion, so I had this funny dream that he went to Portland. I don’t know how this came up but it was very realistic and I was thrilled that we got rid of him and he went to the West. Who said dreams come true? I wake up to a superteam in f@kin’ Miami.
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
I want one more move that makes sense for the team and some anti-depression ice-cream.
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
some anti-depression ice-cream
This is available? Where?!
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
by magicfaninTN on Jul 9, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It's called chocolate.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh......that.
Had hope they were putting the happy juice right in the ice cream now. Guess that would require a prescription. Guess I’ll just keep mixing my own. lol.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
by magicfaninTN on Jul 9, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't make a trade
The magic are fine they have pieces that can get better, number one thing to do now is to resign reddick.
by MagicNation on Jul 9, 2010 7:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Noooooooooooooo!
Otis Smith, last night is your cue to stop being so conservative. We got no choice but to make a big move if we want to beat the Heat. Please pretty please, surprise us and get Chris Paul! :)
I hate Pau Gasol!
NO Otis NO
NO NO NO This would not put us closer to winning the east and getting back to the finals. I sure hope this is just rumor and not close to being true. If true, how does a guy like Matt Barnes feel? $3.5M for a backup point guard (Duhon) and now chasing a guy like Harrington. While at the same time the Magic are taking a wait and see approach on Barnes, and according to Barnes’ Twitter, have not put an offer on the table for him. This is a guy that earned his starting spot, plays great D, had great hustle (almost always one of the first ones up the floor), and brings the attitude we need. Gotta feel a little disrespected. And I’m not saying this as a UCLA alum for another UCLA guy. I’m saying this as a Magic fan. I feel Barnes is needed more now for his attitude and D with the recent Miami news. As Eddie posted on his site (http://www.magicbasketball.net/) we don’t match up very well with the current roster. I see Barnes being an asset we should be pursuing – way before Al Harrington.
The Magic could only offer Barnes $2.4 mill or about 7.8 mil over 3 years.
Barnes is looking for $10 mil over 3 years. If Otis had the cap room he would go after Barnes, but now all he can do is hop Matt gets no good offers.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
And of Otis offers, all other teams know all they have to do is go a little higher.
Otis is playing chess.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
by magicfaninTN on Jul 9, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep hoping against reason that the Magic used their exception last night, and it just hasn't been announced yet
Oh well, let’s get a servicable small forward and rock next year.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
We need to trade for Chris Paul more than ever.
If we don’t get some real help, the Heat will destroy us.
Chris Paul would never screw over his Beijing brotherhood.
He wants to join them.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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Well he wouldn’t join the Magic to compete against his boys like that. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dwight and CP3 are concoting a plan to “take their talents to South Beach” right now. The new generation of the NBA is so buddy buddy right now it is kind of pathetic. Though they take paycuts for winning they also have no competitive edge…its all about popping bottles and cabanas at the W. Everybody’s happy everybody’s lovely. So yes I really believe CP3 wouldnt screw over the brotherhood.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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yeahhhhh no
I don’t believe Dwight would do that, but keep tinhatting!
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jul 9, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Paul fired his agent and joined Lebron's management company lately.
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
If the Heat are able to field the 2008 "Redeem team" starting lineup...
I will not watch another game of NBA Basketball!
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
If the Heat are able to get CP3 without giving up any of their "Unholy trio"....
the NBA will be beyond dead to me.
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
NBA’s been dead to me in the back of my mind since the Gasol trade. The more time goes by the more it becomes less about the game of basketball. One thing’s for sure, no one will work harder this offseason than KB8. He wants to whoop that South Beach ass…they’re completely raining on his MJ themed parade.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
I hate Kobe and the Lakers as much as you do but...
if they play the Heat in the Finals, I hope the Lakers beat the living hell out of the Heat. Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh are likable players but adding LeBron to the equation now makes the Heat my most hated team. Not to mention, Pat Riley is a hack too. He ran SVG out of town to steal his glory and if he does the same to Erik Spoelstra, then that’s the final nail in his coffin of douchebaginess. As much as it pains me to say it, I’d rather see Kobe win more rings than MJ than to see LeBron even win one. You bet your ass Kobe will be working his ass off to take down the 2-headed monster at the wing positions for the Heat!
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
I still hope that Magic will be the ones to kick Miami in the nuts
but I’ll drink to no ring for LBJ
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
Agreed!
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
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Yeah I relish seeing the Magic beat up on that hack LeBron even more now (sorry Wade and Bosh, nothing personal against you). A Lakers/Heat Finals would be my worst nightmare. It would be the two teams that epitomize everything that is wrong with the NBA. So the Magic better whoop that Heat ass next year. KB8 pisses me off as everyone keeps pointing out, he ain’t MJ either, but he had the balls to kick Shaq out of town (note that later on he realized how hard it is to do it on your own, and needed a sidekick) so at least he didn’t take his talents to wherever like LeFraud James. Gotta give Mr. KB8 that respect (hence the Mr.).
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
I like that the Magic are thinking of making moves to improve the roster.
Being proactive and trying to improve. That’s all I want to see. Even if it means bringing in Al Harrington.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
If I had to choose between Barnes and Harrington..
Harrington all day. ALL day!
btw, I don’t care much for either.
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We don’t need another low-efficient volume shooter who doesn’t play defense.
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
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Agreed.
If this is true it smacks of desperation on Otis’ part.
This most accurately describes the situation.
Making a move for the sake of making a move. Probably not a great idea.
NO NO NO NO...................
No way we don`t need Al Harrington, period.
Here's hoping this part of the article is true:
SI sources say Al Harrington was in serious talks with Orlando that recently fell apart. Harrington looking at Utah, New Jersey and Clips.
The Magic need a 3 to replace Barnes
If not Harrington, who do you suggest? CP3 is not a 3 and is not available this year.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
Perhaps Tayshaun Prince............
Although Orlando and Detroit have bad blood in common, a trade between them including Tayshaun Prince and perhaps Will Baynum to Orlando would be interesting, but I do not know exactly who the Pistons would wanted from the Magic.
No thanks.
Tayshaun Prince is no longer effective due to his bad back and injuries.
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Bring Hedo then...............
What about Hedo?……………………lol
See below.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
Once you flush
you don’t stick your hand in to try to retrieve what you flushed away.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS....
is probably the best way of putting it!
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
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Come on guys, we didn’t really flush Hedo down the toilet. We just didn’t want to give him a $50 million deal. If anything Hedo voluntarily took the swirlie in exchange for cash.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
My God! Al Harrington?!?!?!!??!?!
they need to get CP3 right now!! somehow someway!! Vs Boston we didnt have ONE guy that needed to be double teamed and even otherwise its only Dwight! We need to get better defensively on the floor too according to me cuz it cant be simply rely on howard to cover up with wade and james driving to the hoop to whole game, he’s gonna have 48 fouls. As of right now, VC would have to cover Wade!! Unless you want him guarding Lebron and switch peaches on Wade. I dont even know if Rashard is good enough to say that he and Bosh cancel eachother out…our only advantages will be on C and PG, and lebron at SF as of the current roster wouldnt even be guarding ANYONE on defense vs Magic, neither would Wade(VC), Obviously this is not 2008-2009 or 2009-2010 anymore…we need a difference maker. Does nobody want Carter that much???
Nobody wants Carter at all
What’s the point of an expiring contract if there’s nobody to spend cap space on?
by eltharion_doa on Jul 9, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Straight up
unfortunately Wade will abuse him
Can't we give him to the Cavs now that they're all confused and all ?
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
Well, perhaps
Not sure who they’ve got we’d want to go near, though.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 10, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
We shouldve kept Turk and gotten it done last year, now it just got a whole lot tougher!!
easy for me to say now of course, I believed in Vince last year too…
Did you follow Turks season last year
He made Carter look like an All Star. Why do Magic fan fawn for lost average or below average players?
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to consider the fit
Hedo fit our team about as well as any player could fit any team. We would’ve had much better matchups with Hedo over VC but a 5 year deal was out of the question so we did the right thing by letting Hedo walk. The worst part is that we got screwed and now Hedo wants out of Toronto anyway. If he stayed with Orlando we would’ve probably been back to the Finals largely due to the Boston matchups. Would’ve been CLee/J.J. on Allen and Hedo/MP on Pierce instead of Carter/J.J. and Barnes/MP. Given that VC didn’t provide much offense in the Boston series and his defense was so bad that SVG had to put Barnes on Allen, we would’ve been better off with CLee’s caliber of defense and his limited shot taking. None of it matters now but what the VC signing showed us in the post season is that he needs to be the 4th option on offense this coming season with Rashard being the #2-#3 option.
"It can be done, you can just crush somebody"
The last magic was offer to him was 4 yrs 36 million
cant blame him tho 15-16 mil is alot of money for a guy who was on a 6mil/year deal before that and rookie contract before that…Barnes wants approx 10mil/3year and i was reading somewhere the magic can probably do 3yr/8mil…he will walk for 2 million..imagine 15-16
I did
I’m from Montreal we get 82 televised raptors games each year. I know turk sucked no doubt and ppl from toronto were sure VC wouldnt deliver and I would laugh and brag on how VC is delivering and Turk is doing nothing. Then you had the other VC show up in the playoffs… I honestly believe if we had Turk in the playoffs, despite his horrible season he would contribute more to the magic and we would have had a better shot, a much better shot with Turk. For all the bad in him like the contract, the pizzas, the quitting in T.O., the out of control wild arms flaying in the air drives with the magic…He stepped it up in the playoffs in 09 and when motivated like he was with the magic with gundy, he’s a dynamic player…VC just slumped hard and I dont think he played AS BAD for the amount of blame i place on him as his natural (maybe not to his fault) I-dont-care body language..but he sure did suck
"the out of control wild arms flaying in the air drives"
Great line
"It can be done, you can just crush somebody"
Not for the contract he got in Toronto!
Now the Raptors are trying to get rid of him but can’t find any suitors since nobody wants to deal with his remaining $44 million over the next 4 years!
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lol, yeah Imma say no
Some perspective when the Heat get Bosh and Lebron and we have Harrington and Carter to counter.
"To my Hustlers, heres some motivation: He who has begun is half done, why you waiting?"-NaS
Certified Kristin Kreuk obsessive.
Dont forget about Duhon
I know Otis has done his best and hes probably freakin out right now (along with every other GM, coach and player not on the Lakers) but Pat Riley just schooled him and everyone else. I strongly dislike Pat but damn hes good. Just when you think hes faded into irrelevance…..BAM, the biggest free agent coupe since John Gabriel got Grant Hill and She-Mac. Lets hope this turns out the same for Pat as that did for John.
The only way we can beat the Heat is...
if the team chemistry don’t work or all 3 get injured! I just look on the bright side, Heat is still a Florida team and they’re my second fav team because of that. It’ll just be a longer drive for me to see their games (JAX to MIA).
I hate Pau Gasol!
The other way to beat the Heat
is to out play them, or is the game just played on paper and on the internet now?
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 9, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Y why why would we do that? don’t do it Otis man there’s gotta be someone we can trade for? This dude was good 02-04 now he just like VC his legs are gone he is skilled but with what we have in our devsion he’s ass bro!
by bigmoo on Jul 10, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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