DOES CHRIS PAUL TO ORLANDO PLACE THE MAGIC ON TOP OF THE EASTERN CONFERENCE?
by Brandon Ribak on Jul 24, 2010 12:46 PM EDT
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We all know Chris Paul is no LeBron James, but as of late CP3 has turned all eyes onto himself, managing to steal the top NBA headlines.
Many consider Paul as the best point-guard in the NBA and one couldn’t agree more with that, but will the super distributor be able to land in one of his preferred destinations before the season begins?
News first broke out stating that Paul’s first choice would be joining teams with the Knicks, but as we have all learned this offseason, new day, new rumor.
Sources have stated that CP3′s new top preferred team is the Orlando Magic.
ESPN’s Chris Broussard says that Paul pairing up with Orlando’s Dwight Howard would be a much better fit than with Amare Stoudemire in New York.
In addition, the Magic have much more to offer for New Orleans in return.
Let’s just say that New Orleans and Orlando come to an agreement in the next week or so and Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, and a back-up are sent to the Hornets in exchange for Chris Paul and a back-up.
With the Miami Heat quickly emerging as the top favorites to come out of the East after their recent signing acquisitions, does a move in which the leagues top point-guard (Chris Paul) pairing up with the leagues top center (Dwight Howard) place the Orlando Magic on top of Miami in the Eastern Conference?
The answer to that question is yes.
Although it’s difficult to even process that Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, and Chris Bosh are on the same squad, the super powered Heat still have missing pieces.
The Bench
While Miami has managed to bring in some solid veteran talent to surround their trio, their bench simply does not match up to Orlando’s.
The Magic had arguably the league’s most productive bench last season, posting an average total of 45.6 points per game.
With the re-signing of sharp-shooter J.J. Reddick, an emerging Ryan Anderson, the big bodied Brandon Bass and Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, and distributor specialist Chris Duhon, the Magic enter the upcoming season with one of the toughest benches in the NBA.
The Magic shot the most and made the most three pointers last season. With Chris Paul in command at the one spot (with a career average of 10.0 APG) the guard will be surrounded by plenty of perimeter players who can absolutely light up the trey ball.
While I’m not particularly a big fan of the Magics recent signing of Quentin Richardson, the shooter did shoot nearly 40.0 percent from beyond the three-point arc last season in Miami.
Paul is one of those rare basketball players that simply makes his teammates better when the ball is in his hands and with Rashard Lewis coming off of a down year, this could be exactly what he needs to resurrect.
Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard led the league in RPG and BPG last season, ending the year with the most double-doubles and slam dunks in the NBA.
With Howard in the paint, which player on the Miami Heat roster will be able to contain the unstoppable force?
Miami signed Zydrunas Ilgauskas recently and from the looks of things he will probably kick off the season as the teams starting center (we all knew what Dwight posted against Cleveland two seasons ago in the postseason).
Adding Chris Paul to the Orlando Magic’s roster clearly increases the teams chances of securing the top spot in the Eastern Conference, ultimately raising the organizations shot at winning their first NBA championship.
Do you think the Magic could beat the Heat for a shot at the NBA Finals if Chris Paul was added to their roster?
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Hard to say.
Gotta see what other moves are made. Miami is not done and neither are we. A lot can and is gonna happen. All the pieces have to fit. If the magic can swap for Paul and then swap Jameer for other solid wing players then up gotta think the Magic have a better chance at competing for the ECF.
Good read
If the Magic were to pursue a trade for Paul, it would probably gut the depth of the team. But the most important positions are the 1 and 5, and having the best in the world at those positions with a good supporting cast, I would have to say the Magic would be the better team.
by Hassanali181 on Jul 24, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
Unfortunately no.
If we got another defensive player then maybe, but i don’t know if we can stop pentretration by wade and lebron. But it would put us closer to LA.
The defensive player would most likely be Okafor and/or Posey
and assuming he starts at PF and moves Rashard to the 3, it’s going to be hard for any team to score at the rim with Dwight and Emeka guarding the paint.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 24, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
We’re NOT moving Rashard to SF
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jul 24, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you Stan?
because trading for a superstar like Chris Paul and adding Okafor, etc is bound to change some offensive and/or defensive philosophies somewhat.
Having a player that is pretty much only a 3pt shooter moved to SF is not outside the realm of possibility regardless of the beloved 4-1 offensive scheme…
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 24, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Give me one good reason to start Okafor at PF
All he would do is disrupt the offense. He can’t score. At all. Orlando doesn’t need help rebounding, and while some defensive help could be nice, it’s not worth it. And who would be the backup C, because we’d almost assuredly have to give up Gortat to get Paul. Orton is in no way, shape, or form ready to play in the NBA. Hell, he was piss poor in the Summer League.
Having a player that is pretty much only a 3pt shooter moved to SF is not outside the realm of possibility regardless of the beloved 4-1 offensive scheme…
Are you not aware that all Q and Pietrus do are shoot 3s?
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jul 24, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
We wouldnt run any offensive plays through Okafor to begin with
If we had him and we wanted to go big. Then Dwight would get the post plays while Okafor would be asked to crash boards looking for putbacks.
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 24, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
EXACTLY
even though Dwight has a good FG%, imagine Dwight having a double digit weakside rebounder when he puts up one his “Ewing” moves (unless Hakeem has fixed those). Starting Okafor at the 4 would allow him to finally have some sort of strength and size advantage against the Top PF’s in the league and lessen the beating on Rashard. Yes, I know Rashard will not shut down anyone at the 3, but having Okafor and Dwight behind you should help somewhat.
I am well aware that Q and Peaches shoot 3’s, but are you aware that Rashard is better than both?
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 24, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So
We’d essentially be playing 4 on 5 offensively.
Best idea ever, or worst idea ever?
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to playing 4 on 5 offensively
with Matt Barnes?
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 6:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you see Matt Barnes on the roster any more?
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions
The point! It's right there!
and there it goes….
With Pietrus and Barnes starting the last 2 years, it was almost like playing 4 on 5 offensively anyways. Aside from their very rare outbursts, both were/are good bench players masquerading as starters.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
So what?
We didn’t win the title last season, in no small part due to the fact Barnes was a black hole offensively against the Celtics. Smith brought in Richardson instead of bringing back Barnes precisely because he’s a better offensive option – all that good work would be undone if we went and started another black hole on offense.
There might be teams that can win titles with a starter contributing absolutely nothing offensively, but it doesn’t appear that Orlando is one of them.
I’m afraid you’re the only one who’s missing the point.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Kendrick Perkins or Andrew Bynum?
Okafor couldn’t put up comparable or even better numbers than the last 2 Centers that have been on the last 3 Championship teams who were, in effect, black holes offensively? It seems like if the black hole is a post player it might help.
I’d rather have Rashard guarding a slowing Paul Pierce and an erratic Ron Artest with a 3-4 inch height advantage instead of Pau or KG. I’d also rather have SF’s guarding Rashard because he was killing Pierce when he was posting him up. And nobody can guard Lebron, so that’s not going to matter.
I like Q, but he can’t possibly be the missing piece for a championship team…
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The Magic were the 6th highest scoring team in the NBA
L.A.-12, Boston -19
Okafor averaged 10 ppg, Barnes averaged 8 ppg with ,8 3’s. Obviously there are other factors involved, but those other teams aren’t much more potent than the Magic
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If Barnes and Pietrus
Can’t stay ahead of Pierce, Lewis has absolutely no chance whatsoever.
Q isn’t the “missing” piece, he’s just an upgrade offensively over Barnes. Okafor would be a downgrade over Lewis at PF, and Lewis wouldn’t be good enough at SF to make up for that. You’d be essentially playing two players out of their normal position and asking them to guard players they can’t guard.
Garnett, Gasol, Pierce and Kobe would shred us on the perimeter, in the midrange and at the foul line if we started Okafor and Lewis. Howard would be nullified because they wouldn’t need to go near him.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
The difference would be Okafor and Howard behind Rashard
Rashard has the size and length to bother jump shooters. and if perimeter players are hesitant to drive with Howard down low, imagine if Okafor was there with him blocking shots.
The Magic get shredded on the perimeter regardless. Jameer and Carter aren’t known for their defense and Barnes just got inside of people’s heads and didn’t really shut anyone down.
But Okafor gives us more options because it allows Dwight to OCCASIONALLY cover Pau/KG/Bosh while Okafor covers Bynum/Perkins/Whoever. Instead of Rashard who would have a even more size and strength disadvantage against C’s than his usual disadvantage against PF’s.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Lewis can guard PF's in the midrange
He can’t guard SFs there. They take him off the dribble or run off him through screens. He doesn’t have the speed or agility to keep up with them.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he could keep up with them but if he can't
that’s where Dwight and Okafor would come in.
and the 2 time Defensive Player of the year better be able to guard PF’s in the midrange, it just seems like they didn’t try that because they didn’t have a shotblocker behind Dwight if he got beat, and that’s why Okafor would be useful.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So who guards the Center if Dwight is guarding the SF? Who guards the PF is Okafor is guarding the SF?
Defensive breakdowns are bad. Just because Dwight is DPOY doesn’t mean he can cover up every mistake.
Isn't covering up mistakes the reason why he won DPOY?
their defensive philosophy was to funnel their guy towards Dwight.
and if your talking about switches, Rashard would guard the C and the PF which he should be used to by now. I’m just saying by not getting beat up by the other PF’s in the league and playing with someone who can distribute the ball should bring out the best in Rashard.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
A philosophy that works
Because we have speedy guys who can stop their direct opponents getting shots inside the arc. It’s hard to hit a midrange jumper when you’re marked – it’s much easier when you’re unmarked.
Lewis can’t guard Pierce at all, Okafor can’t guard Garnett other than in the post, meaning you’d get (against the Celtics) two guys who were getting midrange jumpers all day. Howard would be irrelevant – the Celtics wouldn’t need to go near him.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 26, 2010 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Neither Dwight or Okafor
Are comfortable running people out of a midrange jumper. They don’t have the lateral speed to recover back inside if the guy in the midrange makes the extra pass.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 26, 2010 3:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Okafor has the lateral quickness
because that’s why Larry Brown traded him for Chandler, but I definitely believe Dwight has it, but that would be the beauty of having Okafor because it wouldn’t be imperative that Dwight has to recover because Okafor could help out on the weakside.
If the Magic can limit a team to all jumpshots with 6-10 guys coming at them instead of lay-ups/post-ups, I’d take that all day.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 26, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Why?
We defend the paint better than any team in the league already.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 26, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Because
a jumper is a more lower percentage shot than a lay-up or dunk.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 26, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
But we already give up the fewest points to jump shots and dunks out of anyone in the NBA. Trying to improve an area you’re already the best at and deliberately getting worse at things you don’t do well already is not a recipe for success.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 26, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What would they be getting worse at?
covering jump shooters? with 6’10 guys? Garnett or Pau don’t come off screens to shoot jumpers, they’re at the top of the key or foul line. Pierce does, Artest doesn’t, Lebron basically iso’s, but a simple switch would suffice with Dwight and a 6’10 Rashard could cover the post players he’s been covering the last 2-3 yrs. If pierce blows by Dwight, there you would have Okafor waiting for him. The whole defense is a funnel to the shot blocker so nothing would change except taller guys to contest jumpshots.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 26, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Anderson is 6'10"
He couldn’t stop Garnett getting whatever he wanted in the midrange. Bass is 6’9" but long, and he couldn’t stop Garnett either.
Garnett just has to get body contact, step away and he’ll lose Okafor. Same with Gasol. No, Artest isn’t a threat to go ballistic on Lewis, but the Lakers have that guy called Kobe Bryant, you may have heard of him, who will blow past anyone we start at the wing positions if Okafor was playing PF.
There’s a reason Smith and van Gundy like tweener wings who can guard guards or forwards – most teams have one great wing player, very few have two. With Lewis and Carter as our starting wings, we wouldn’t have any good wing defenders – every single wing with a decent shot would get whatever they wanted.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 27, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Anderson is the white version of Rashard Lewis
and isn’t known for his defense. Bass is actually 6’8 and it’s been KNOWN that’s he’s undersized at the 4. and both are nowhere near the shotblocker that Emeka is. KG and Pau can do that to ANYONE but again Emeka is one of the better shotblockers in the league so even that would be tough because he’s actually bigger (weight-wise) and they can try to muscle him up if they want.
I have no idea why Kobe was brought up. He blows by everyone, and even if Rashard stayed at the 4 he’d still be subject to switches as well.
I’d rather have a 6’10 Rashard contesting SF’s jumpshots than a 6’6 Quentin Richardson, especially if Rashard had the insurance of Emeka paired with Dwight right behind him. Except for Peaches, who doesn’t start, the Magic really don’t have any GOOD wing defenders.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 27, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Here. Read up on this.
Here are the vitals on Emeka Okafor: A 16.53 Player Efficiency Rating. Four years and approximately $52 million remaining on his contract. Much of the discussion surrounding potential trades for Chris Paul operate under the premise that any team serious about obtaining Paul would have to take on Okafor’s onerous deal. Tom Ziller of Fanhouse writes that Okafor’s deal might not be a beaut, but it’s hardly an albatross for an offensively productive, defensively solid big man in the NBA.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/27/emeka-okafor-is-and-is-not-the-problem/
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 29, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh
I can’t be bothered with this. If you think Rashard Lewis can guard people on the wing, or that post defence matters when wings are cutting for jumpers, there’s no point.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 28, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It's a matter of common sense.
I like to think of what people can do when it has been shown before, like Rashard guarding wings which he has done because he’s started at SF in the NBA before, instead of focusing on things that they ABSOLUTELY CAN’T DO. He starts at PF on the Magic cuz he’s the best option out of everyone on the team, If we actually had a PF that was a better option, chances are Rashard would be starting at SF.
Okafor is terribly overpaid but he’s not terrible, he’s averaged 13pts, 10 rbs, and almost 2 blks for his career.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
But
Okafor ABSOLUTELY CAN’T, to borrow your phrase, guard PFs.
And Lewis can’t really guard SFs either.
LeBron James played PG in his rookie year, but that doesn’t mean he’s a point guard. Lewis isn’t a SF any more – that he was good there when he was young and athletic doesn’t mean anything now he’s older and has slowed down.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 29, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
The Magic brass seem to think differently than you… But what do they know, right?
Okafor absolutely can’t? I have no idea where you get your info, but given that he’s been playin since 2004 at a position that is bound to have some sort of contact with the other team’s PF, chances are he has proven that HE CAN.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 29, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If the "Magic brass"
Thought Lewis could guard SFs full time, they would have played him at SF more than 18 minutes in a whole season.
I suppose we should bring Shaq in as a PF? Yao Ming would make an excellent PF? How about Ilgauskas? You really think that playing C means you can automatically play PF? What nonsense.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 29, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course they would've played him more
if they had a better PF that could grasp the offensive and defensive schemes. But he’s the best PF on the team so OBVIOUSLY he’ll be playing PF. But you know more than the Magic brass, right?
and yes, let’s bring in 3 guys that can barely move as opposed to a 28 year old double-double machine. You’re whole premise is that he can’t guard PF’s, and that’s obviously moot because he has numerous times in his NBA career.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 29, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's also going to be hard for the Magic to score with Dwight and Emeka clogging the paint.
Neither can play PF.
Nobody drives to the hoop anyways.
and when they do, like in the Boston series, they miss.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 24, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter
We’d give up 110 points a game in jump shots.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for, you know, Howard. Who needs space down there.
And Nelson, in order to break the defense down. And Carter, when he feels like drawing contact (which admittedly isn’t often).
by Evan Dunlap on Jul 25, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
well if we had Okafor
chances are we’d have CP3 instead of Jameer and Carter. who still needs to drive, but Stan Van can up with something that’ll work.
but aside, from Dwight’s running hooks, a post up move takes up, at most, the other side of the block, and i’d rather have Okafor at PF to clean up the other side than Rashard who would most likely be on the perimeter on a 4-1.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions
It depends
on what we give up and get in return.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jul 24, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
not sure but it will be one hell of a battle. if we get paul, florida would be a two headed beast for the foreseeable future. pretty much the best player at every position plays in florida.
True.
PF though. I’m not sure who is the best power forward. I think it’s Pau Gasol. Or if KG can ever be healthy it would he him. The defensive intensity, presence, and ability to lock down his opponet is still unheralded. When he is healthy. Although he may never be 100% again. So I think it’s Pau. Also Kobe is better than DWade by a fraction. But still.
Playing Dwight and Okafer together
First off, Playing Dwight and Okafer together as Center and Power Forward would be used throughout the season to be able to be perfected for the post season when we need a more traditional lineup. Otherwise, we could be using the 4-1 offense. A few minutes a night with the traditional lineup throughout the year would help the Magic a ton in the post season especially against Boston. As far as Dwight’s Back up, Okafer could play that easily because dwight only sits for about 12 minutes a game if that. Plus, if the Magic are playing with the traditional lineup, then I am sure that Chris Paul and Dwight can run pick and rolls with Okafer there for the rebound if they might miss. We could potentially be one of the better rebounding teams in the league with that lineup. Of course, that will depend on if we are missing the wide open shots we will be getting from Chris Paul’s assists.
Because it seems to be the Magic's achilles heel
when the face a good PF and a decent center in a 7 game series…
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 24, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
KG surely lit Orlando up in our last series.
We lost only in part because Rashard was ineffective (which was partly KG’s defense, but mostly Rashard missing his shots). The reason we lost that series is because 6 of our players gave us absolutely zero contribution for 6 games (JWill, Pietrus, Barnes, Gortat, Bass/Anderson)
Nobody stopped Pierce. That's the difference.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
by magicfaninTN on Jul 25, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That's kind of why I like Rashard at the 3
because he was posting Pierce up and scoring at will, and Rashard could do that against every SF in the league. Rashard would be a liability on defense but he’d at least tire out and dominate offensively the opposing SF.
by BobbyDigitalFTW on Jul 25, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the main reason we lost the series this year is we didnt have Courtney Lee shutting down Ray Allen
Lee was amazing in that series for us last year. The way he severely limited Allen and completely blanketed Eddie House after his outburst in Game 4 in believe. From that game on Lee made him his *
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 25, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
There's nothing traditional about Okafor at the 4
That’s just bad. You think Brand’s a bum? Okafor’s half as good at the PF position.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Some thoughts on a "hypothetical CP3 trade"
First of, the most basic situation, CP3 in, Jameer out. One good point guard for a great one. A team captain for a Dream Team member. Is it worth the risk? For Chris Paul yes.
Secondly, we know the Hornets will also want to get rid of a really bad contract, probably Okafor’s. Posey and Peja’s come off soon, so they’re not as bad for the Hornets.
I think a stumbling point will be if NO wants VC – Otis will not want to lose his entire backcourt, he’ll want perhaps an SG (Thornton?) to come off the bench for JJ/Q-Rich. Maybe Julian Wright – but he’s not a good 3 point shooter. Or Pondexter, but he’s not even signed yet.
Most are hoping they’ll take VC in the deal.
by David Polega on Jul 24, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We have to trade them VC, it is our only "expiring" contract (they still have to pay 4mil additional, but that then relieves 18 million off their cap).
We are absolutely not going to be able to get Thornton from them. If a trade happens it will be our random contracts for either Chris Paul + Okafor, or Paul + Okafor + Posey. Three team trades are also a possibility, and I think if it is a three team trade, it will likely end up being a better deal for Orlando, as we might get the other team to take Okafor’s contract as he would essentially be wasted cap space here (moreso than Gortat is right now)
Nobody is taking Okafor's contract without getting a major piece as well
He’s being paid twice what he’s worth.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Posey has two years to run
And Smith would trade Carter without hesitation for Paul.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re paying Redick for a reason right :) ?
by David Polega on Jul 25, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats not even considering the Synergy of a perfect passer/driver throwing to the best pure shooter the game has seen in years.
by David Polega on Jul 25, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
We are getting Ray Allen?
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by NC Magic Fan on Jul 25, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray Allen Lite
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ray Allen white, sets shots my boy, set shots.
by David Polega on Jul 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
WELL ACTUALLY
if you look at Emeka Okafor’s tape – he actually, has more offensive game then people think, more than Howard
FACE
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
this is how we get paul
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=283ka43
Without getting Okafur. Thunder needs a big; Hornets need expiring contracts. We get to keep most of our core.
also, we don't lose carter this way
i still have faith in vince
Never gonna happen
Thunder and NO would both say no. Why would the Thunder give up decent young players for a crappy long contract and bass? There biggest strength now is a solid team with cap flexibility – they aren’t gonna kill that for the next 4 years on Okafor of all people. Besides NO doesn’t get enough young talent.
by BlueSkyOneCloud on Jul 28, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
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