Chicago Bulls Reporter Sam Smith Is "Hearing" Orlando Magic Will Keep J.J. Redick
by Evan Dunlap on Jul 14, 2010 3:49 PM EDT
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PrintA reader submitted a question about J.J. Redick to Sam Smith of Bulls.com, the official website of the Chicago Bulls, and Smith's response should encourage Orlando Magic fans worried that their team might let Redick's offer sheet from Chicago go unmatched.
I've been hearing lately that Orlando will match.
I realize Smith doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation, given his tendency to propose wild, implausible trades throughout his career. But there's a distinction between writing that trading Chris Paul for Kirk Hinrich makes sense for the New Orleans Hornets and actual reporting. One is speculation; the other is more concrete.
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LMAO
Did he actually propose that trading hinrich for CP3 made sense for NO? Who does he think he is, an Orlando sentinel writer?!
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
robertohenry
Otis do you want to make this trade, here is how you do it
Y.O.U… M A K E … T H E M …..A N D …. O F F E R …… T H E Y ….. C A N ….
N O T ….. R E F U S E.
Here we go
Jam, Vince and Gortat for Paul, Okafor and Sangaila and to offset the Vince salary 10,000,000 in hard cold cash.The Hornets would be crazy to turn down this offer knowing that in 2 years they are going to loose Paul and get ZERO.
They get and all star point guard they get rid of Okafor and in a years time they
Have plenty of cap room. And yes the 10 Million does not hurt a struggling franchise.
You can check the trade here
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
by ROBERTOHENRY on Jul 14, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't trade that much cash
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Jul 14, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really
Read what Dallas just did. This from A Dallas newspaper.
" It’s true. The Mavs called the Hornets on Tuesday morning. They offered Erick Dampier’s expiring contract for Chris Paul. Dallas was also willing to include "the kitchen sink’’ – which you can read as everything including Roddy Beaubois and multiple No. 1 picks and cash.
The Hornets said "no’’ one final time to the $13 mil of relief Erick Dampier’s expiring contract provides … and Dallas pulled that plug, turning back to its simultaneous talks with Minnesota for Al Jefferson and its talks with Charlotte for Tyson Chandler … pushed one more time for the Wolves to take DUST but not take picks … and then created DUST-for-Chandler."
by ROBERTOHENRY on Jul 14, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
$3 million is the most cash you can send
Just because your quote says “the kitchen sink” doesn’t mean your $10 million idea is realistic.
Mike Fisher, the author of that story for DallasBasketball.com, mentions the world "cash" only once
Context, with my emphasis:
It’s true. The Mavs called the Hornets on Tuesday morning. They offered Erick Dampier’s expiring contract for Chris Paul. Dallas was also willing to include "the kitchen sink’’ – which you can read as everything including Roddy Beaubois and multiple No. 1 picks and cash.
Doesn’t mention it anywhere else, in a multi-paragraph post.
In the future, please link all sources you reference.
by Evan Dunlap on Jul 14, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no money in this quote, what IS your point?
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
CASH
Dallas offered CASH is what the article said what we do not know is the amount
by ROBERTOHENRY on Jul 14, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
$13 million in cap relief from Dampier's expiring contract.
That’s not “hard cold cash”. That’s a player’s contract coming off the books.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
But no $$$$$
You cannot include more than $3 million in cash. Cap releif is not, repeat NOT cash.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, that's what I said.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
Not supporting this crackpot idea
But you can technically trade more than 3m if you split the trade into multiple deals.
spell check..........
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
"mark my words...we will draft 4 new linebackers this off-season" - 2010
Those Smith Bothers know what they are taking about
First Stephen A.. with the three Mouseketeers, now Sam in Chicago. Otis is no dummy either.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
Are they really related?
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
I thought every one named Smith was related
in some way, but Chicago Sam has a pigmentation problem
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YES PLEASE!
I just want to hear those words, “we match”!
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
Checkmate.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
This
and it’s another clear message sent by Otis, “Don’t eff with out RFA’s or we’ll hold your cap hostage… before we match said offer”.
"It can be done, you can just crush somebody"
If the Magic do decide to keep Redick, does that mean a trade to reduce the cap is imminent?
by Hassanali181 on Jul 14, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions
No necessarily related
The expensive guys (RL, VC, D12) we either can’t or won’t trade and the others don’t help much. At this point, if someone is traded for cap reasons, it would be because they don’t fit future plans.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Bass
Hard to see what else we’d be doing.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 14, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to see what Bass will be doing, too.
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 14, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He waves a most excellent towel.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 14, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've always thought we'd be getting rid of Gortat this summer.
But not while Daniel Orton is shooting 14% in Summer League. So yeah, I don’t foresee any changes, unless ownership specifically tells Otis “You gotta cut down some of the wages” which in that case our GM we’ll probably looking at downgrades over Gortat, and a parity exchange for Bass.
I heard that the Nets are interested.
The NETS is like my own sense of direction..
The MAGIC made me realize that one..
by silenthero07 on Jul 15, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw, is that Chris Gatling in the picture behind JJ?
Is that guy even still in the league!?!? Lol.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
No, Gatling retired a long time ago.
I think that’s James Singleton directly behind JJ’s right elbow.
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
Gatling is setting off metal detectors at airports w/ the plate in his head
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Jul 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if he is still living in hotels
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jul 15, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
OT: Ben (or anyone), heard any lockout rumours going around?
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
It has been mentioned a lot of times in other blogs..
The NETS is like my own sense of direction..
The MAGIC made me realize that one..
by silenthero07 on Jul 15, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s been some discussion of it that I’ve seen from SI, CBS Sports, and some newspapers (NYT, Boston Herald, and Plain Dealer all had articles recently). The Player’s Association and the league disagree on whether the league is in the red or not, and they’re still negotiating the next CBA. The owners want a hard cap and a much lower salary cap – I was hearing numbers around $50 or $51 million, down from the current $58 million. They also want to cut the rookie scale by 1/3, drop the minimum salary by 20%, cut the maximum salary, reduce the number of years a contract can be for, and only guarantee contracts for half their value instead of the full value. They also want to reduce the share of revenues that go to players from its current 57%. I haven’t seen what the PA’s proposal was, but I know revenue sharing was involved, since they want the small-market teams to be more financially viable.
One problem, economically speaking, is that tying salaries to revenues creates a problem in that it doesn’t account for expenses. However, the owners’ suggestion of tying salaries to net revenues (revenues minus expenses) is also problematic, because it permits inflated “expenses” (“my wife’s a consultant” sort of things) that reduce the players’ share but funnels that “expense” money back to the owners.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Right now
It’s pretty much locked in. The players want the current CBA, the owners want something pretty close to what the NHL has.
Either side could move, of course, but the league’s losing money hand over fist so I can’t see it being the owners.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks guys
I read about ‘em arguing also about the numbers the league gave but to do a lockout this year would be kinda crazy so I don’t see that very possible.
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
I mean that a lockout is "locked in"
Not that the season is.
I’d rate there being about a 85% chance that at least part of the season is missed.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 16, 2010 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Heard the best nickname for Bosh, Wade and Bron.
The Three Me Egos. I think this is a lot closer than the Three Amigos.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jul 15, 2010 8:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
From the Morning Journal - Serving Northern Ohio
“Sources say the Magic will match the offer sheet signed by swingman J.J. Redick with the Bulls. The Magic might explore possibly trading forward Mickael Pietrus if Redick returns.”
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Jul 15, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions
I'm gonna miss Pietrus if he were ever traded.
Despite the smaller frame, he’s probably the guy I’d want defending the top wing player, and not Quentin Richardson.
i dont think MP is going anywhere.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Agreed.
Don’t believe speculation from beat writers in other towns. Or from most of the beat writers in OTown for that matter. Armchair GMing.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
by magicfaninTN on Jul 15, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes trade our only above average perimeter defender
We’ll put JJ on the other teams best wing player. Its sure to work
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Jul 15, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
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