Berger: Dwight Howard Wants Orlando Magic to Pursue Chris Paul, Carlos Boozer
Chris Paul, the world's finest point guard, is the player for whom Orlando Magic fans have pined the most since Sam Amick and Tim Povtak reported last week that the Magic had engaged the New Orleans Hornets in trade talks regarding him. That rumor still has life. Ken Berger of CBSSports cites a Western Conference executive as saying a deal sending Paul to Orlando is "plausible" due to the Magic's "deep, deep pockets." More from Berger:
To soften the blow from losing Paul, New Orleans would likely insist – and the Magic would agree – on the inclusion of Jameer Nelson in any such trade. Nelson was exposed as a liability in the Magic’s conference finals loss to the Celtics, but could bridge the gap to [Darren] Collison with a cap-friendly contract that pays him $8.1 million in each of the next three seasons. The Magic have internally explored including Vince Carter in various trades they’re considering, sources say, but Carter’s $17.5 million salary next season might require a third team to get involved or force the Magic to explore another deal for him.
Earlier, Berger mentions that the Hornets would want any team trading for Paul to also take on Emeka Okafor's mammoth contract.
The Paul angle is part of a larger story that might prove more interesting: franchise center Dwight Howard has apparently given Magic management "a short list of players he’d like GM Otis Smith to pursue this summer," says Berger. Power forward Carlos Boozer is also on that list, and Berger says the Jazz would likely be "enticed" by a package featuring Brandon Bass and J.J. Redick.
John Denton has written about Howard's excellent relationship with Boozer before.
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CP3 Yes, Boozer is about 4th on my list behind Bosh, A’mare, and Lee.
``There’s no need to quit. There’s no need to say that we’re going down fighting because we’re not going down. You just have to think positive and if you think negative you are going to lose. Like I told the guys in the locker room, `If anybody has any doubt, we’re not going to win. But if everybody’s on the same page and believes we’re going to win, then we’re going to win it.’’’ -Dwight Howard
by BleedingBlueSince89 on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 AM EDT reply actions
All roads
Lead to Orlando.
Well, except for the ones that lead to New York, New Jersey, Miami and Chicago.
Orlando, It's time.......
It’s time for the Magic to put the best Center in the game on the same team with the best PG in the game. Moreover, it’s time to seek out players who are hungry and lose the dead weight. I only ask one thing in return: please don’t trade JJ! Lol! If he is demanded by the other team, then by all means, but do not throw him in there for the sake of it.
CP3 is a no-brainer
But Boozer is interesting. The reasons why not to pursue Boozer are well-documented on this site and others. But pairing Boozer with Dwight would, I think, help mask his struggles against bigger players.
The more concerning thing, IMO, is that the Magic don’t need a low post threat at all. That’s what Dwight is supposed to do (and has done, even if the mainstream refuses to acknowledge it). I do think it’s necessary for D12 to keep adding to his repertoire, and improve his FT ability so he can be counted on late in the 4th in close games. But adding a scoring PF only diminishes D12’s role in the offense, and that’s a terrible mistake IMO.
Obviously, if you can get a very top tier PG, you have to go for it— even if Jameer is not “the” problem. But the Magic’s biggest need is a wing scorer. We all thought Vince was that guy, but we missed him by a couple of years. If I was D12, my realistic potentially available list would like this:
1. CP3
2. Carmelo
3. Rudy Gay
Why Boozer??
He’s after the money not the ring.
we don't light the stars, we simply fade with them..
And he gets the money because he's good at the sport.
Which is what ultimately gets you the ring.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
Good Point..
Maybe it’s just because i hate him thats why i don’t want him on the team..
we don't light the stars, we simply fade with them..
Magic need to make a big move in all of this or else they will be has beens come October.
silent, Boozer will be fine if we put him alongside D12…don’t worry…
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
I don't think the Magic need to make any big moves
Solidify the PG position and figure out what to do at the wing spot- whether that be Redick and Barnes, or elsewhere— such as Ronnie Brewer. While it may not be sexy, it’s a team that still has won 118 games in the regular season the last two years, and 23 (?) post season games.
Not to mention, EVERYONE will make this team an afterthought after this summer no matter what happens. The media and publicity will be all about the new look Heat, the new look Chicago Bulls, LeBron’s new city, and whatever happens in New York and New Jersey. And that’s just the Eastern Conference. We’ll definitely be picked to finish behind the Heat by the substantial majority of the “experts.”
So we’ll be forgotten. But let’s not pretend that this team all of a sudden cannot compete at the upper echelon. IF anything, the chip on our shoulder will be massive. I can’t wait for next year.
But to be clear...
If you have the opportunity to acquire someone in the talent level of CP3, you obviously do it.
Nelson was exposed as a liability in the Magic’s conference finals loss to the Celtics
I don’t know if I agree with that.
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
Perhaps
if it had said “exposed as a liability on defense”? Jameer has never been a great defender, and while he can create on offense, and was clutch at times, I think his defense will always be a negative, especially against the bigger guards.
I agree with what you're saying about him as a defender.
He did score 24 points in the game 5 win. To say he was a liability is a little harsh imho.
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
by Wally Balls 407 on Jul 1, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m not saying the Rondo exploded, he put up his average in the series, I just think the Jameer is a defensive liability, especially against the bigger guards.
Worse than his average, actually.
Only 8 assists a game, 43% shooting.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
Huh?
It’s not like Rondo exploded in that series.
Our problem was second chance effort and failure to execute offensively/have depth of offensive options, not defense. We held the Celtics to 92-96 points in every game, which should have been less, but we just couldn’t score enough.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Jameer vs PG's 6'1 or taller
Stats from 2009-2010
Chauncy Billups 1/13 24 pts, 3/28 18 pts
Baron Davis 12/8 18 pts
Derrick Rose 1/2: 30 pts
Daron Williams 12/21 18pts, 12/10 32 pts
Rajon Rondo 2/7 17pts, 5/18 25 pts, 5/26 19 pts
Russel Westbrook 11/8 17 pts
Let it be known that I am a big supporter of Jameer running the point for Orlando and to trade him for anyone other than Chris Paul would be a mistake.
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
by Wally Balls 407 on Jul 1, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
^* any PG other than Chris Paul.
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
by Wally Balls 407 on Jul 1, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
I didn’t want that to come across as me bashing Jameer for his d against an elite group of PG’s. I was not trying to defend one side or the other.
And I ’m super bored at work.
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
by Wally Balls 407 on Jul 1, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
How about shooting percentages, though?
Assist totals? Context?
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
They don’t understand Jameer is a great player, and CP3 is only wanted because he is top 3 player in the world. This is somehow lost on all writers, aka not basketball coaches/scouts.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
per hoopshype: CP3 wants out of NOH
http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2010/07/01/sports/nh2723138.txt
ORL★NDO, our time will come.
CP3..nice, but if not gonna happen, Paul going to Portland.
I heard that Portland is negotiating a change of CP3, which they put all their players available with the exception of Brandon Roy, including Aldridge and Bayless and anyone in their roster (Oden?) for CP3…………It this trade is possible?
NO would trade CP3 because of Money problems. Not because of players they like to acquire. Portland doesn’t have a 7mil TPE for immediate relief of someone like Posey. And NO will force Meka in a deal, and want expirings in his returns a la VC. Portland has some terrific assets but I don’t think they have the two things I mentioned going for them. Also, with CP3 wanting out, it’s what pressures NO to trade him and they would be further pressured if CP3 wanted Orlando. I’m sure NO would like to send CP3 to Eastern Cobference instead too.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
all this stuff is making me dizzy
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Jul 1, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Put your head between your knees.
I heard that helps with dizziness.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Please get Paul
and get rid of Carter and start Reddick
by REP96st on Jul 1, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This was Whit Watson's response on Twitter...Hilarious.
And I want a pony. RT @KBerg_CBS Dwight Howard wants Chris Paul, Carlos Boozer in Orlando. #Magic #Hornets #Jazz http://bit.ly/awDUPR
by MightyMouth on Jul 1, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hah Exactly.
And Jameer was exposed as a liability in the ECF? He was our 2nd best player possibly, maybe tied with Redick behind Dwight. Rondo had worse numbers than he had against other playoff opponents (of course part of that is Dwight also, but still). I don’t understand how someone who’s paid for something is so publicly uninformed within that chosen field.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
I think a title with Jameer would be sweeter than a title without him.
Then again, I think there’s a reasonable argument that there is no title without someone like Chris Paul. I’m not sure Boozer does a whole lot for us, but he is a great player.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
That's my feeling as well.
I think the team can win a title if LeBron doesn’t form some super-team. But if the super-team is formed, then yeah, Chris Paul would be needed to compete, unless some kind of injury or drama prevents a super-team from succeeding.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
Oh, there's a title without Chris Paul.
But the title with Paul would probably be easier. And it’s not like Chris Paul is a guy who’s tough to root for — it’s not like we’re talking about strengthening the team by bringing in Artest or something.
I call him LeBron Jim for short.
I love rooting for Artest. It's hilarious.
I wanna shout out to my psychiatrist! Look out for my second single dropping next week!
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
That was theee best speech EVER!!!
He’s a legit wacko! He cracks me up!
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
So . . .
By Dwight asking for a player that plays the exact same position that Jameer plays is not implying that Jameer isn’t good enough?
So if I wrote to SBNation webmaster stating that he/she should allow TheGiantSquid or pookeyguru to run a Magic blog on their site, you wouldn’t feel a little bit like that I just threw you under the bus?
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Not quite the same
Who’s the Chris Paul of Magic blogging? Not TGS or pookey, let’s be honest.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
lol Good point.
Chris Paul is Chris Paul. I’m sure Jameer can understand. Dwight has his eyes on the prize.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Okay, admittedly, I guess The Human Highlight Blogger who runs Peachtree Hoops would have been a better analogy
I just wanted to say hi to squid and pooks while staying on topic.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
All I'm saying is he is still throwing Jameer under the bus a bit with his demand for Chris Paul
I understand where Dwight is coming from and agree that Paul would be better, but he is still basically implying that Jameer isn’t enough for the Magic to win a championship.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
No.
He’s saying he wants Chris Paul on his team. EVERY SINGLE ONE of us would want the same exact thing. And I don’t think he’s “demanding” anything.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Fine.
I just wished eltharion_doa had responded to my last comment first. I’m not throwing you under the bus per se, I had just wanted somebody else to comment instead.
I’m kidding, of course.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Plus
Ben’s likle at least the Deron Williams of Magic blogging.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, 95% of the time when people say they are kidding
they really don’t mean it. And yes, that is a made up statistic, tyvm.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
+1 for the Kevin Ollie reference
"I just Rashard'ed my pants!!!!"
by Wally Balls 407 on Jul 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know Jameer personally, but I've never gotten the impression that he wasn't thick-skinned.
He’s always seemed very strong willed to me, and I’m sure he knows the business aspect of it.
The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy
You mean thin skinned
Thick skinned people have stuff like this bounce off, y’know? :-)
by eltharion_doa on Jul 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was "never....wasN'T thick-skinned"
It was a double-negative, but nonetheless it means he is not thin skinned.
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..." ~SVG on the place and value of advanced metrics/stats
I wonder
How Jameer feels about all the trade talk involving him. After all, he is a talented PG to say the least. I would take Paul in a heartbeat but still, its not like settling for Nelson is a bad thing
Just a random thought here
I know the chances are probly less than getting CP3, but could we possibly get Wade in a sign-and-trade? After all, he did say this http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/11/25/wades-free-agency-could-end-in-orlando/ back in november
Hate to be Mr. Buzzkill but....
chances of finding Jimmy Hoffa’s corpse are much greater than us landing Dwyane Wade.
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
I figured that
But usually this time of year everyone talks about every slim chance possibility. I just noticed that Dwyane Wade hasnt even been mentioned in the same sentence as the magic sice late november when he said hed most want to play with dwight
0% chance
Just not going to happen in this universe.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a scenario that many of us has said, won’t be realistic UNLESS Wade and Miami strike out with the FA’s. If that happens, Wade starts looking at Amare, Boozer if they are still there, any cap remaining teams to outright walk, and some S/Ts like Orlando Magic if Riley would bite instead of let walk.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Whoda thunk it?
Even though Dwight has a great relationship with Jameer, him wanting CP3 doesn’t really surprise me. But Carlos Boozer on the other hand, that kinda surprises me. I know they’re good friends but I thought Dwight wanted to be “the man” down low. Boozer may be the most low-post oriented PF in the league and I thought that could cause problems for Dwight. Plus, Boozer is a guy who commands shots (like 14-15 a game) so Dwight may have to sacrifice even more touches but if we do by any chance land Boozer, he and Dwight could work out something in terms of chemistry.
I'm a dude!
Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
then again...
Thinking about the series vs the Celtics, Dwight did his most damage when someone got to the basket and allowed D12 to clean up after them. Maybe that’s his thinking. They can’t double him, and if they can’t do that, nobody can stop him. Nobody can truly stop him anyway, but could you imagine Dwight having a 25pt-13rebound-3 block a game season?
``There’s no need to quit. There’s no need to say that we’re going down fighting because we’re not going down. You just have to think positive and if you think negative you are going to lose. Like I told the guys in the locker room, `If anybody has any doubt, we’re not going to win. But if everybody’s on the same page and believes we’re going to win, then we’re going to win it.’’’ -Dwight Howard
by BleedingBlueSince89 on Jul 1, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Dwight can do that season numbers easy.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The good thing about Boozer and Dwight is how good friends they are already. They would really try to mak it work over the season and Boozer stealing touches from VC is a good thing. It’ll take a smart team and Jameer to run those PnRs and feed the two down low. And hopefully Boozer can develop a passing game to Dwight because he operates at high post. He can shoot well, drive and dunk/accurate-floaters, and now pass to Dwight or to shooters. It could hopefully be like a “Quadruple”-Threat instead of the Triple Threat because Boozer may be a good passer to Dwight and shooters if he sees those options and can hit them.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, he's not getting any love from Jameer tonight
that’s for damn sure
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jul 1, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Sooo true.
Jameer is deff going to freeze him out for a while. At least Dwight could have CP3 or Boozer to keep him warm at night.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
All I know is that if Jameer gonna be shiped to NO, he'll drop 40 on us the first game we'll play them.
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
Lol
Jameer and Dwight are best friends. I think they have a good relationship, even right now.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They're best "teammate" friends.
We don’t know how they’d be if placed on different teams. Especially if one of them was traded at the request of another wanting a different player.
Honestly, we really don’t know much about their personal lives and who they hang out with and text all night long with.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
From what Iv read, Jameer and CLee are Dwights closest friends. But he is also good friends with Booz and Bosh.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 3:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not entirely sure how I see Boozer working out in Orlando but I do like to see what Rashard would be able to do offensively as a SF and Booz and Dwight already chemistry to try to make it work. I think it’ll take smart players to make it work, the system won’t be so 3 pointer-or- Dwight it, so the players have to make good spacing and passes like never before.
On the other side of a S/T, I think we could really help out our Western team Jazz here. I think Gortat is going to be the most obvious piece first, to me atleast. Gortat is the guy who’s buried behind Dwight, but in somewhere like Utah will explode for a double-double, like 10pts/13rbs/3blocks and those defensive numbers and presence will make the Jazz a defensive powerhouse.
From that aspect, I would be done sending Utah anything else for Boozer. But we have to make salaries match and Gortat is not breaking enough ground on a twin towers with Dwight so it’s understandable to lose him. So now, because we are potentially gaining a top PF in Booz, it would ensure Lewis to SF and open the backup job to Bass or Ryan, and except for maybe Bass, neither will really get backup C minutes. That could be a FA, Orton, or Booz sliding over temporarily to a pseudo-5 spot while Dwight rests. I think it would be best to add Bass because he would be most redundant with Booz’s skill sets and his salary with Gortats may already be enough to make the S/T match. Then you have Dwight/FA/Orton at C and Boozer/Ryan at PF and it will give the Magic the valueable flexibilty to go 4 out, 1 in as a mismatch or a set if either of Dwight or Booz is resting, and imagining it working sounds really dangerous on the court.
Unless there are unknown trades or wing FA signings in the equation, and besides Ryan, I would not want JJ Redick or MP in any such S/T for Booz. Magic would need a player exactly like JJ for a Booz/Dwight lineup, and an elite team needs MP to guard their best players and hit those clutch 3s. Losing either of them will start to hurt the Immediate Rotation, especially with Barnes a FA too.
So my essential package for Booz would be Gortat and Bass, whom would not hurt the Magic’s immediate rotations much at all. Hopefully Utah is salivating at the thought of Gortat anchoring the middle and Bass backing up Millsap, so maybe Magic can get some late future 1at rounder from Utah as well. But if Magic were being forced to add something more than Gortat, then Id add future picks and Bass only (or before having to add JJ or MP which hopefully doesn’t happen).
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 2:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
CP3 has to push for Orlando for any chance of it to happen.
If LBJ lands somewhere for good, the remaining teams with cap space will take on Okafor and/or Posey anyways for CP3 and deal with it later. They have even younger assets too, but the good news is they’d still only have 2 seasons to rebuild around CP3 before his FA and they’d might lose some real good players in a deal with NO. Chad Ford said that NO was rdy to trade CP3 to Portland alrdy but the owner wasn’t open for it at the time. And NJ looks like a real good choice if they strike out on LBJ by taking Okafor and CP3 for capspace and young assets.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17470/teams-still-pursuing-cp3
So it’s looking less likely as FAgency moves on, but I personally think there’s an incredibly high chance if the Magic want to save cap for the summer after 2 seasons.
by derekk on Jul 1, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
New Jersey? Really?
The Nets are in a position where they HAVE to sign a marquee FA. If they strike out and pursue Paul while also willing to absorb Okafor’s contract, they’re going to have to match the salaries because they only have $19.3 million committed (after waiving Dooling no less) in payroll for next season. It seems like they’re willing to part ways with Devin Harris and Derrick Favors but they’d have to trade nearly their entire roster for Paul AND Okafor unless they have a huge trade exception but according to Trade Machine, the only exception they have is VC’s which is $1.35 million.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_jersey.htm
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Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
NJ is under the cap, they don't have to match salaries in a trade.
They can just send back TPEs.
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..." ~SVG on the place and value of advanced metrics/stats
by magicfaninTN on Jul 2, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
By send back I mean, create.
NJ gets Paul, Okafor
NOH gets ~$14.9M TPE and ~$11.8M TPE.
That would just about kill NJ’s cap space. They’d have about $3M left. Which is why they’d want to do something like move at least Devin Harris + salary-matching players (likely Lopez, since Okafor is an expensive C and his departure leaves a whole at C for NOH) for Paul and consider a TPE for Okafor. That would leave cap room for a max contract like LeBron.
This is why I think ORL has one of the best shots at CP3.
Jameer is arguably a better PG and slightly cheaper than Harris (at least this last season).
Carter is both a starting player for a year AND and an expiring.
Our TPE for a contract like Posey (which creates an equal TPE for NOH).
And if we send Gortat for Okafor they save a couple million a year without much drop at the center position (some would say NOH gets an upgrade, but that’s another discussion).
You can, of course, see why having a team—like Detroit—that might take Okafor would be helpful, but then if that happens, ORL needs a backup C. Maybe we could take Hamilton off DET’s hands as well as get Wallace in a S&T up to the remaining $3.9M…which would be too much, but you get the idea.
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..." ~SVG on the place and value of advanced metrics/stats
by magicfaninTN on Jul 2, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
And the Portland offer they turned down also had nothing like the salary savings ORL can provide.
"...your eyes lie to you sometimes..." ~SVG on the place and value of advanced metrics/stats
by magicfaninTN on Jul 2, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok, thanks for the clarification.
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Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
Thanks TN for the always good explanations. This is why Im really worried that CP3 to Orlando is dying over time (until 1-2 seasons later atleast). It will let other teams focus on offers for CP3, or NO & CP3 to make a strong re-commitment to each other (unless CP3 gets loud about getting out of NO = great news). The biggest thing to keep an eye on is the expiration of the 6.8-6.9 mil TPE on July 8th I think it is, although a deal can be done without it, I think it’s one of the special assets the Magic will need to make a good enough offer. Other than that, if NO makes any more trades and dissecting with who/why. I’m thinking Magic would have already done this trade too, but that NO is fielding all offers still and may not decide until a) owner finally decides whether to trade cp3 or not before he leaves, and/or b) major FAs commit so more teams can ante up offers. And it shows to go why CP3 should respectfully push for Orlando if NO is going to pull a trigger, it’ll greatly help Orlandos chances even if their offer is not quite the best (still accomplishes most salary relief and good players, especially Nelson).
by derekk on Jul 2, 2010 2:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Paul will go wherever the Hornets want to send him
He’s got no leverage to demand a specific destination.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 2, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions

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