Orlando Magic Draft Greivis Vasquez With 29th Pick In SB Nation's 2010 NBA Mock Draft - Ridiculous Upside
With Quincy Pondexter unavailable, I selected Greivis Vasquez in the 2010 SBN Nation Mock Draft.
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OMG
So I’m sitting here watching the ’98 Draft on NBATV and just realized 3 of our players are from that same draft: Lewis, Vince and J-Will.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
Why Vasquez over Dominique Jones?
I mean to be completely honest, you’re giving guaranteed money to a guy who you hope can be a backup point guard at best. That’s why unless there is a future starting point guard caliber player (Bledsoe, Armon Johnson, Bradley, etc…), the Magic should address point guard in free agency. Dominique Jones is a prolific scorer and gives depth at wing, which is potentially an area of need. At worst, you’re talking about a guy who comes off the bench and attacks the basket.
And I know it’s not a need, but if by some chance Daniel Orton falls to the Magic at 29, it’s a no brainer selection. There’s absolutely ZERO risk in drafting Orton at 29.
Except you're giving guaranteed money to a guy who has failed every step of the way in the draft process
Maybe a 2nd-rounder, but not a first.
Vasquez had a better college career.
That does not mean he’s “better anyway.” Besides, on who’s opinion are you basing this anyway? You admittedly don’t watch much college basketball. And I have not seen many (any) opinions that rate Vasquez ahead of Dominique Jones as a player.
I’ve watched Vaquez for four years now. He is what he is— not a great athlete who struggles against good defense. In a game where you need to be able to create your own shot, he won’t be able to do it. You’re essentially drafting a slightly taller JJ Redick with a worse outside shot. He was also “the man” for Maryland, allowing him to compile stats out of necessity. Don’t get me wrong- he’s a gamer. I just totally disagree with drafting him in the 1st round. You might as well draft John Scheyer (similar player) or Matt Bouldin (better ball handler, just as heady) late in the 2nd round if you want a tall PG who is a gamer.
It’s not a big deal. It’s just a SB Mock Draft. I’m just not a fan of Vasquez in the 1st round.
Scheyer is "similar"...
…except that he created around as many assists as a senior as Vasquez did as a freshman. Bouldin averaged 4 assists per game as senior — he’s not a point guard. There is a huge gap between Vasquez and those guys in terms of production.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Meh, we might as well add to the Reece Gaines, Jerryl Sasser list of tall Magic- drafted point guards that didn't pan out
It’s been quite a few years, so the Magic were due.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Kevin Felton did his comparison of players this year
The closest match for Grievis Vasquez? Keith Bogans
Honor is no substitute for victory.
That's weird and faulty.
Bogans never averaged more than 2.5 assists a game in college. Vasquez never averaged less than 4.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
https://twitter.com/PDCavsInsider
I’m reading that Deng to Orlando for MP and Gortat is possible. With Kirk traded, Chicago has room for two max players, and now it’s a matter of basketball fits so a 7fter defensive center who can serviceably guard Dwight and a “threes-and-d” wing make perfect sense for Chicago regardless of whoever FAs they get. I’m not sure how Deng really fits in Orlando, I like how it upgrades the starting lineup, but the Magic should be thinking zero sum mentality and thinking, why should we trade good support players (Gortat may be more easily) for a team we see in ECF/rnd2 probly??
Well, whatever, there’s my thoughts. Just thought the link might be interesting. Maybe Ben can comment on his thoughts of this potential deal.
by derekk on Jun 24, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dang, didn’t see this in the fanshots until now Ben. My bad.
by derekk on Jun 24, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Draft just got interesting
Thanks Utah! SFs are going like hotcakes though, save some for the Magic!!
by BlueSkyOneCloud on Jun 24, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
aw I wish there were a draft thread
b/c I’m just that pathetic
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
THEN WE SHOULD ALL TALK TO ONE ANOTHER!
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I came on to say the same thing.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Orlando Magic, Arizona Cardinals,Tampa Bay Rays and of course "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 24, 2010 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am awesome like that, yes
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no no no
don’t you people know your memes??
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno :|
I’m pretty lost this draft
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
omg I hate my neighbors ;_;
oh hai, wanna hear something AWESOME. When I got home yesterday I learned my electricity had been turned off and the chicken I had in my freezer went bad. GUESS WHOSE APARTMENT SMELLS SPECIAL!!
I'm a girl.
yeah it was good times
not quite how I envisioned coming back home. Luckily I got it turned back on pretty quickly and obviously threw everything away, but the odor lingers :( I have two arm and hammers in the fridge/freezer, candles lit, febreze, etc…
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
haaa
b/c I hadn’t paid April or May’s bills? :|
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what happened
I will swear up and down I paid April’s at the very least. It was one bill I didn’t get transferred online and…out of sight, out of mind? idk…in their defense, I owed two months’ worth but they didn’t turn the power off until June 17
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh it was horrible
and my internet doesn’t work. I’m mooching off someone’s unsecured wireless >.>
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
they should lock their wireless...
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what's wrong with mine
it was working up until a week ago, says my friend
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
no, thank god
she was house sitting
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
it's funny that everything bad that happened to my apt
happened on the day I arrived home and she came down to Orlando to go to IoA for the Harry Potter opening.
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I was home by then
but too jetlagged to go.
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
a lot of people couldn't even get in
b/c of the crowds but she and another friend of mine managed it. I’ll be able to go one day :)
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. I'll be going eventually too.
I think it’s better to wait anyway. I have an unnatural fear of other people being too close to me.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Personally, I want to go for two reasons
1. I want a wand to choose me
2. I want to get wasted on Butter Beer
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There might be a Ginny fantasy somewhere, but's not to be talked about
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
*but that's
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fine. I don't like sharing.
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
mmmmm, Ginny.
Oh, I’m sorry. What were you saying?
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I love Ginny
like Ron better, though :3
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Creepy
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
my friends bought me a chocolate frog!!
it’s HUGE, and I got a Helga Hufflepuff card!!!
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you offering services for their services?
Because that’s illegal in 48 states, young lady
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
what I meant to say
is that everything I’m doing is completely legal and not at all morally questionable
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing's questionable if you have no morals
That’s why I started this cul, I mean self-actuating group that allows you to establish a life of no boundaries. Would you like a pamphlet?
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Great.
Each pamphlet also comes with a complimentary glass of Kool-Aid and these plastic gloves. Please turn off your cell phones and walk into that dark room in front of you. And ask no questions, you need a clear mind to make the transformation.
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
omg this is gonna be so awesome :3
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This is all legit right?
I don’t want to fall into some crazy cult or something.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Oh yeah, totally legit.
We just have some rules:
1. You must never talk about it
2. You must break all contact with your previous life
3. You must know the rules and regulations to Ping Pong
Oh, and you don’t mind nudity or ritual sacrifice, do you?
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
can we have a fight club?
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My name is Lawrence, and I have an OPP thread addiction.
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
So your name is Nunya
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
oh haha
when I got back to my apt my friend who’d been watching it had printed out a bunch of welcome back posters and one of them had pictures of Dwight and JJ with a big X crossed out over JJ’s face XD my friends are awesome
I'm a girl.
I'm just joshing.
I think it’s clear that these people you are talking about do not even exist.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
omg you are so mean tonight!
why are you picking on meeee
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
omg lol
soooo who’s left, Vazquez?
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
why are we so far down in the draft? :|
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, fuck them.
That’s exactly what I said when they made their pick.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Looks like Vasquez or Hobson.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
I was just about to be like, I doubt it
and then the damn grizzlies had to pick him.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Hobson, then. I guess we're stuck with Hobson.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Let's hope the Magic get a serviceable draft pick no matter who it is
Orlando Magic... 2010 Eastern Conference Finalist
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by Mike from Illinois on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
In other words:
Gortat is 6 feet out the door and gone
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on Jun 24, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Foyle is gone, maybe.
This guy is not going to play minutes in the NBA next year.
(Gortat might be out the door too — but not for reasons having anything to do with Orton.)
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
I wish to disavow any affiliation with this guy's scoring.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
It's like you always knew this moment was coming when you chose your name
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that was a waste of a pick.
Guy who couldn’t even score, defend or rebound in college. If he ever does turn into anything worthwhile, it won’t be for at least 2 years.
I mean, I’m not opposed to drafting a project — the Magic certainly don’t need much help now. But, like, Hassan Whiteside is a project. This guy is just a bust.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Upside: Geert Hamminck
Lowside: Geert Hamminck.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel Orton. . . .ugh.
I hope this will be in a trade next week.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
BQR wrote earlier in this post that Orton has failed every step of the way in the draft process
…and that he might be worth a second round pick, but not a first round pick.
Otis Smith must have something else up his sleeve.
Orlando Magic... 2010 Eastern Conference Finalist
Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Champions!!
by Mike from Illinois on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
god I hope so
b/c SERIOUSLY??
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed... on the surface, the pick doesn't make much, if any, sense
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Chicago Blackhawks... 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Champions!!
by Mike from Illinois on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
oh hey
Ben made a post specifically about Orton. Let’s go discuss over there: http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2010/6/24/1535760/orlando-magic-select-daniel-orton
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