Givony: Fran Vazquez "Could Start on a Number of NBA Teams"
by Evan Dunlap on Jun 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT
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PrintJonathan Givony, most famously of Draft Express, just published this look at various overseas players whose draft rights some NBA teams own at Sports Illustrated. One such player is Fran Vazquez, whom the Orlando Magic drafted 11th overall in 2005. Givony has nothing but praise for Vazquez, which is just sad news for Orlando:
The Spanish big man could start on a number of NBA teams thanks to his athleticism, shot-blocking ability and rebounding prowess. But that seems unlikely at this point, as Vazquez, Rubio's teammate in Barcelona, is comfortable in his native country and hasn't really been courted all that heavily by Orlando.
I say the news is sad not because the Magic would rather Vazquez fail, but rather because he's a useful player who likely won't ever suit up for Orlando. Or any NBA team, really. With big men Brandon Bass and Marcin Gortat potentially available for trade, the Magic would benefit from having Vazquez line up in their frontcourt, but it doesn't appear as though it'll ever happen.
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What is even more sad
Is that he robbed a draft position from us (that could have landed Granger…). it is funny that to sign a player from a foreign club, the player must get a buyout, well then shouldn’t the same go for any player that enters the NBA draft and is drafted, shouldn’t the NBA team that drafted them receive compensation before the foreign team can sign them? Fran and Rubio are picture perfect examples of a system that needs to be fixed. Teams should not have to worry about “doing their homework” on if the player will actually play. Any person entering the draft should be held to a contract. If they want out, they better drop out before they get picked damn it.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
by Eric9321 on Jun 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If a player is under contract
Then they would have to agree a buyout to go overseas. The only way players can go overseas without financial settlement is when their rights are held by a team, but have no contract.
As for the rest of your post, I entirely disagree. Teams are run by big boys and girls, they should be able to figure this stuff out by themselves without needing Daddy Stern to come in and fix everything. The Magic took a risk when they drafted Vazquez without finding out if he wanted to play with them, knowing he was under contract in Spain. It didn’t work out – that’s on them.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 18, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone has their own opinion
But I think that a person should not be allowed to enter the draft without full intention of playing for who drafts them. If they fall too far and want out, drop before you are chosen. In the way it is now, people have too much power over who they play for. A player can be like hey if you draft me, I will play overseas, thus ruining the whole concept of the draft. This allows players leverage to disallow teams with a rightful pick to choose them. How can anyone agree with that system? Rubio decided he didn’t like Minnesota, so he now plays in Spain. Fran didn’t want to play in America at all so now he plays wherever he plays. That is ridiculous, you want the teams to have to pay that kind of money to make an educated guess about prospects screwing them, and then to still have to roll the dice. Never mind playing poker and not letting people know who you are targeting, as everyone will know as you have to have a team of people question and do surveillance on each prospect to verify that they do indeed intend to play for the team that selects them. Oh and who ends up footing the bill? The people who want to watch said team. What you are agreeing to is preposterous, and I can’t imagine you have really thought it through. Any player that enters the draft should have to play for the team he is drafted by or pay a set fee for playing in another professional league. At least then there is some sort of compensation to the team and a small measure to limit player’s leverage in forcing teams they don’t like to draft them. Not to mention foreign players who may use the draft solely to gain leverage on their country’s team to pay them more as well. Preposterous I say!
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
Responsibility of what
making a player want to play in your city? And if not, you can’t draft them as they will just stay in the European league. That is folly. I stand by then need for penalties for players that play with the system. Players like Rubio shouldn’t be allowed to waste people’s time and resources by entering into the draft and then skipping out. It may work out in Rubio/Minnesota’s case, but cases like Vasquez are just dumb. A player should plan to play in the NBA if he enters the draft and gets drafted. That should be a contract of itself.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
Forget about Fran.....
he’ll never play in a Magic uniform.
I'm a dude!
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Makes one think
we could have had a ring or two if the GM did his due diligence.
Otis became the GM on May 3, 2006.
So his first draft was the ’06 draft which Rondo was in (Granger and Robinson were in the ’05 draft) but Jameer Nelson was only 2 years into has career at that point. JJ Redick has turned out to be a solid pick though.
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Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
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forget about Fran, he aint coming here.
First he says his girlfriend doesnt wanna come here, now, his boyfriend (Rubio) doesnt wanna come here either.
SMH
ORL★NDO, our time will come.
by magic12ball on Jun 19, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
His chemistry with Rubio was the last nail in the coffin....
but at least the T-Wolves had the luxury of taking another PG right after they chose Rubio.
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Orlando Pinstriped Post: Where game threads turn into online chat rooms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPlLyVuMf7U
well,send Franny's rights and fillers to Minny and have them send back Big Al
ORL★NDO, our time will come.
We don't need Al.
1) He makes too much to come off the bench; I don’t believe he and Dwight can coexist since they both play similar styles although Al has more range than Dwight.
2) If the fillers are any combination Bass/Gortat or Gortat/Pietrus or even Bass/Pietrus, I don’t see Minny making that trade because they’re fairly deep in the frontcourt and even though the wing positions are their biggest weaknesses, they’re in great position to draft Wesley Johnson and I don’t think they’d want to pay a 3-point shooting swingman $5.3 million next year.
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