Orlando Magic 2010 Mock Draft Update, Vol. 1: Quincy Pondexter a Popular Pick
by Evan Dunlap on Jun 10, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
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PrintThe 2010 NBA Draft is but two weeks away, and teams around the league are trying to figure out whom to pick, except for the Washington Wizards, who will stake their franchise's fortunes on John Wall first overall. Let's take a quick look around the mock drafts to see what the experts think the Orlando Magic might do with the 29th overall pick.
| Player | Ht. | Age | Pos. | From | Comparison (NBADraft.net) | Site |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Solomon Alabi | 7'01" | 22 | C | Florida State | Boniface N'Dong; Saer Sene | NBADraft.net |
| Armon Johnson | 6'03" | 21 | PG | Nevada | Antonio Daniels | ESPN Insider |
| Quincy Pondexter | 6'06" | 22 | SF | Washington | Bobby Simmons | The Baseline |
| DraftExpress | ||||||
| Jerome Randle | 5'10" | 23 | PG | California | J.J. Barea | CBSSports.com |
| Samardo Samuels | 6'08" | 21 | PF | Louisville | Ike Diogu; Malik Rose | OrlandoMagic.com |
| Willie Warren | 6'04" | 20 | PG | Oklahoma | Ben Gordon; Rodney Stuckey | Ridiculous Upside |
Some observations:
Three of the seven mocks I surveyed had Orlando taking a point guard, yet none mentioned the same one.
The other four were split, with two picking Orlando to take a wing, and the other predicting a big.
What they did agree on is that if Orlando takes a wing, Quincy Pondexter is the likely selection.
I would say the older players with more experience have the edge here, as Orlando is looking to win now, and GM Otis Smith likes mature players who can contribute right away. Courtney Lee, for example, was a four-year starter at Western Kentucky when Smith took him in 2008. Ditto for J.J. Redick, at Duke, in 2006.
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Consensus Mock Up
There is a good consensus mock up of the lottery picks on NBA.com, which you can then use to jump to the actual sites and see who the “experts” think Orlando is looking at.
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/05/18/consensus.mock/index.html
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by magicbasketballonline on Jun 10, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
Can I not vote for any of them?
I don’t necessarily believe any of this is likely, mainly because it is difficult for these experts to predict who the Magic will take when they haven’t worked anyone out yet. I really hope this isn’t the list of who they might take, because all of these guys w/ the exception of Pondexter, but I don’t think he will be anything all that special either.
What is it that you dont like about him? His immaturity seems to be the only fault right now. Well, his D too prolly but still it’s a PG position.
by derekk on Jun 10, 2010 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn’t see anything special in him when he had Blake Griffin next to him and I definitely didn’t see it when he sucked last season. Poor decision maker, dribbles way too much. Doesn’t that sound like a point guard we had a few years ago? He just seems destined for the D-League
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 11, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm! A 5'10" point guard?
Take Randle and trade Bass for Nate Robinson. We would rule in an under 6’ league!
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by NC Magic Fan on Jun 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
They say he shoots very well :P I like him.
by derekk on Jun 10, 2010 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So were going to take
Another undersized, shoot first PG to backup Jameer? I don’t get it…
by BlueSkyOneCloud on Jun 12, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, why not?
Ideally, you want a seamless transition from the starter to the backup, so it’s best if the backup plays roughly the same style of ball. You don’t want to devise a whole new set of plays for the 12 minutes the backup plays. If the starter gets injured, you want the backup to step right in there and be able to run the team’s offense. Etc.
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The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
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by 44792212 on Jun 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 11, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Not crazy about any of these dudes.
Alabi doesn’t rebound, doesn’t score and isn’t even THAT good at blocking shots.
Johnson turns the ball over too much, and doesn’t have a three-point shot.
Pondexter was nothing until this year, and you have to worry about a wing player with a negative assist-turnover ratio.
I like Randle’s shooting, but don’t think he can run an offense. He might have an Eddie House-type career, but I’ve always preferred pass-first backup PGs to shoot-first ones. (Especially on a team where nobody but the point guard can run the offense.)
Samuels is a post scorer only, a mediocre rebounder (7 boards in 29.3 minutes), an undersized PF and no shot-blocker. His assist-turnover ratio is below 0.5. He’s like Brandon Bass minus the athletic ability and the mid-range jumper. And that’s a best-case scenario. I thought Alabi was going to be my least favorite of these guys, but I think I just found a new candidate.
Warren’s proven nothing. He should’ve stayed in school, but hey, here he is now. He averaged almost as many turnovers as assists last year, and he’s not an especially accurate shooter.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Eh.
I’m more concerned with that 4.1 assists/3.8 turnovers stat than anything else. That’s simply not excusable.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
That was as a 2-guard, though
He was playing alongside Tommy Mason-Griffin, and without a truly dominant big (Blake Griffin was “replaced” by Tiny Gallon). He also had a bout of mono that didn’t help. He’d be rough, but I think he could learn in the right system.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
3.8 turnovers a game as a 2-guard?
Does that make it better?
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Love Pondexter
but, I am bias local kid.
I would happy with him, tough kid, nice mid-range jump shot, good rebounder, and solid defender.
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I chose Poindexter only because I like his name
In my opinion, most draft picks should be chosen by that criteria.
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Have you heard anything about Jordan Crawford Ben?
Like i stated in the other post I believe he would be a good fit for the magic. He can get his own shot when he wants to, but do you think he’ll be available?
Most likely.
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Solomon Alabi won`t be available but in case...............
If he is available Alabi should be the pick for the Magic……. With Marcin Gortat being the most valueable trading piece; trade him (Gortat) for a veteran point guard and choose Alabi who have graet defensive tools than next to DH 12 and learning from SVG and Ewing definetely could fit in the Magic team.
Okay -- what does Alabi do well?
He doesn’t rebound, he’s not a gifted scorer, and his 2.3 blocks per game just aren’t an impressive number by college standards.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Not exactly.
Thabeet could at least rebound in college.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
wow
That’s a horrible dose of reality. I want no part of that.
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by magic fanatic on Jun 11, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I am a Florida State fan...
and have been trying to talk myself into Alabi since day 1. Haven’t been successful. With that being said, he has been ranked as a lottery pick forever and played with a team that had very little basketball IQ and not point guards. He could potentially be a much better pro player than college player.
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by magicbasketballonline on Jun 11, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Anytime you can get a guy...
Who draws comparisons to Boniface N’Dong and Saer Sene, you just HAVE to do it.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
LOL
I know right? Did you read this from sbnation’s preview of big men?
Solomon Alabi. The history of one-dimensional college shot-blockers in the NBA is not good. For every Ben Wallace or Mutombo, there’s a handful of Adonal Foyles or Etan Thomases. Alabi, however, certainly demonstrated at the collegiate level that he can control a game without taking a shot — he anchored the most efficient defense in the nation last season, largely due to his Herculean efforts to shut down the lane. But the combination of his age (22) and his health concerns make it difficult to project that he’ll develop into an equally intimidating presence in the pros. And he would have to be a downright dominating defensive force to justify taking him in the first half of the first round, given his utter lack of anything resembling an offensive game. His playmaking is negligible, he didn’t get to the line that often, and his scoring was decent, at best. Other than that, he was an offensive dynamo. If a team can snatch him up in the late 20s, he’ll be worth a look as a role player, but anything before that will be a bit of a reach.
Thanks Vince.
My first choice is Greivis Vasquez.
Yes, he’s a 6’6" PG, which is dubious. Yes, he’s not a great shooter (though he does have a three-point shot). And yes, his athletic ability is questionable.
But as far as a point guard goes, I have two questions. Does he run the point? And does he have an innate talent for running the point?
When you look at Vasquez’s four-year stats, you see a guy who has always been able to run the point, and run it well, while simultaneously scoring on outside shots and drives.
Yes, he’s a couple years older than a lot of guys in the draft, but it’s not like he’s putting up his current numbers because he’s older — compare his sophomore numbers to the stats of most other players. This is a guy with a lot of talent and the work ethic to adapt that talent to the NBA.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
from what ive read
Vasquez is the only player in ACC history to record at least 2,000 points, 700 assists and 600 rebounds and was the only player in college basketball to average more than 18 points and six assists per game last season as a senior
in OTIS we TRUST...
I like Vasquez too
especially if he can guard 2 positions as a backup. I think we can get him in the second round if the Magic move up. I don’t know if he worth the first round guaranteed money.
Thanks Vince.
Count me in. I read a few other scouting/ draft profiles on him and was impressed.
There’s some interesting choices here for PGs. If the Magic truly want a defensive PG, there’s not many choices I think, but there are some guys with good PG size for defensive potential. The other thing is offense, and there are a few undersized, but good prospective PGs. As PGs go, defending them is toughest, and a better spot to have a offensive oriented guy, whether in passing or in scoring, so I have no problem if Magic really like one of them and go for it.
Tho overall, I could see them picking a wing guy more.
by derekk on Jun 10, 2010 10:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The thing with Vasquez is, he’s… very driven. He’s got a great work ethic, he’s a great leader, but he frequently tries to do too much. (Hence the turnovers and shooting percentage.) Aside from the tweener status (and associated questions about athleticism), that’s the big question with him — will he be able to rein it in?
Of course, he’s been playing for a team where there’s no real question he’s the man. So he’s had no real incentive not to. I really feel like moving to a supporting role, with a good coach who has a track record of instilling discipline in his players, could help him flourish. And he’s a smart guy and a good character guy. I think he will really hve no trouble making that transition.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Willie Warren and Terrico White have more talent
Great work ethic does not really make up for lack of athleticism. Only 26’5" vertical and notoriously slow laterally. He’s also a terrible shooter. He’s a great competitor, and could be worth a flyer at the end of the 2nd round, but honestly, I’d rather have Matt Bouldin if we’re drafting 6’5" guys who can play the point.
It always has before.
I feel like, when a late-drafted player excels in the league, it’s never a great athlete who had questions about his skill level. It’s always a guy who put up a great college record, but people wondered whether he had the athletic ability to succeed in the NBA. Carlos Boozer, Jameer Nelson, even, etc. All the way back to John Stockton, Karl Malone and Larry Bird.
Or a foreign player these days. That’s another issue, though.
The Magic's total second-round margin of victory: 101 points.
The Hawks' highest second-round game score: 98 points.
Vasquez
I tweeted this last night…. If the Magic were to get Vasquez and JJ on the same team, they would have two of the most hated players in ACC history playing together.
Would certainly make Bobcats games more fun.
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by magicbasketballonline on Jun 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
That sounds pretty good actually
Given our pick will be so low, I’m OK with him in the first round.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 11, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
ANOTHER VASQUEZ?
When will we learn?
by BlueSkyOneCloud on Jun 12, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The last one was Vazquez
The S makes it all better.
That said, I like Vazquez better at 59 than 29. I don’t think he’s a sure enough shot to be a first round pick.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Not a great spot for the Magic
to pick on need. They should really go with the best player available. Pondexter seems to be a good choice if he is there at 29. But here are the last 4 picks at 29:
09-Toney Douglas
08-DJ White
07-Alando Tucker
06-Mardy Collins
2 of the players are out of the league, White has been injured, and Douglas actually seems decent. But I’m not expecting too much. Actually, I like Babbitt and Hayward a lot and if either fall into the 20s, I would like the Magic to move up. Hayward especially reminds me of our pizza eating former player.
Thanks Vince.
no no no
You draft the best player available when you pick early in the draft because you’re usually a team with less than exceptional talent. When you pick late, you generally have a really good team, but might need to fill some holes in some places. That is the scenario for the Magic, so fill the hole(s) with a player of NEED and you take the best player available at that slot for the position you need to fill.
Let's be honest
Late first rounders and second rounders almost always suck in the NBA, so we’re probably not going to get anything worthwhile.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 11, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Few superstars, but lots of role players.
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by magicfaninTN on Jun 11, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is
The “role player” bar on a championship capable side is set very high.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 11, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point of the draft it’s more about finding the sleeper pick that somehow is found every year somewhere 20-59. Tho, there are some good fitting players for Orlando that are reasonably in 29 range I bet.
by derekk on Jun 11, 2010 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To be honest, it's kind of hard to get psyched up for the draft when your team is drafting 29th and 59th
If the Magic can get a serviceable player who will see meaningful playing time next season, I’ll be thrilled.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jun 11, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
there's always someone in the draft who's taken late, then gets heads turning during the season.
this year it was taj gibson and beaubois.. 2008 we can argue george hill and mario chalmers. Otis’ job is to see to it this year it’s our team’s turn to find some diamonds in the rough.
Right... hopefully he'll draft a player who will have a Courtney Lee type impact his rookie year
…instead of a Johnny Taylor (drafted 17th in 1997) or Reece Gaines (drafted 15th in 2003) or David Vaughn (drafted 25th in 1995).
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by Mike from Illinois on Jun 11, 2010 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s been a couple all Stars drafted really really late too… Just got to pick really good. hehe
by derekk on Jun 11, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a crapshoot when a team is drafting so late in the first and second rounds
Like you said, hopefully they pick really good.
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by Mike from Illinois on Jun 11, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is Quincy Pondexter?
I bet you that 70% of the people in this page does not know who is Quincy Pondexter, just because his name maybe sound like a basketball player it does means that he can play……. And with the 59th pick of 2010 draft the Orlando Magic select from Univ of Maryland Greivis Vasquez., maybe the next Manu Ginobili who was drafted # 57 in the 1999 draft.
Manu was drafted so low because he was one of those overseas projects that was stashed away.
No one probably expected him to be what he is today, but yeah, we can only hope we can find someone like that.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
Pondexter is a combo F outta UW
Mostly defensive oriented and can score a little on the block.
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He is what you can get with the 29th overall pick.
2009 Toney Douglas
2008 DJ White
2007 Alando Tucker
2006 Mardy Collins
2005 Wayne Simien
2004 Minnesota’s forfeited their first-rounder
2003 Josh Howard
2002 Dan Dickau
2001 Tony Parker
2000 Mark Madsen
1999 Leon Smith
1998 Nazr Mohammed
1996 Travis Knight
1995 Cory Alexander
1994 Antonio Lang
1993 Sherron Mills
1992 P.J. Brown
1991 George Ackles
1990 Tony Kukoc
1989 Dyron Nix
1988 Vinny Del Negro
1987 Lester Fonville
1986 Johnny Newman
1985 Mike Brittain
1984 Stuart Gray
1983 Larry Micheaux
1982 Scott Hastings
1981 Eddie Johnson
1980 Louis Orr
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by NC Magic Fan on Jun 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
lol at Vinny
you should change your icon thing :D
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 11, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna nominate Mikhail Torrance as the player I think Orlando should take with that 29th pick.
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EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985......
Maybe we should adjust our stats to per36 years of age? -- ElRonToro
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I think he might be availible at 29 too.
by derekk on Jun 11, 2010 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
whast ha'ppende to other one
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