Hard headed Coach
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT
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PrintStan Van Gundy has got to be one of the most hard headed coaches in the league. It took him three loses and his back against the wall to put brandon bass in the game and get the goat (VC) out of the game and put JJ in, and when he did that we won 2 games. So if i was a sane minded person i would have gone with the game plan that won me 2 games not lost me 3, but noooo van gundy went back to good ole give the ball to the goat gameplan that lost us 3 games! And brandon bass played his first minutes with 2 to go in the third! frustrating much!?!? In this series when the magic have VC on the floor and not JJ we are -24 but when we have JJ in and not VC we are +22, so if you had half a brain you would put in JJ and leave what used to be vince carter on the end of the bench and kick yourself for not giving Hedo his damn money. Oh and hedo only wanted 10 mil a yr. instead we pay vagina carter 16.3 mil this yr, 17.3 mil next yr, then a team option 18 million american dollars in 2011/2012, puts things in perspective huh? I know hedo wants out of toronto but i dont know how we can afford him. oh and by the way say bye bye to JJ cause some team is gonna pay his ass this off season, and we cant pay him because we pay VC and Rashard a combined $37,0814,000 dollars next year when our WHOLE TEAMS combined salaries are $79,677,182, pretty close to HALF of our money is tied up in our two biggest pussies.
P.S. i work at the arena and i spoke with David Steele at halftime of game 5 and i asked him "why did it take SVG 3 loses to put brandon bass in?" and he replied with "He is one of the most hard headed men ive ever met in my life, thats all im gonna say"
excuse my language just a little upset
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I would nominate
this for the dumbest post ever… but im feeling good today, so… Enjoy this thread.
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by 4QB on May 29, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
really?
what is so dumb about this? please enlighten me “some other guy who does not care”
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by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 29, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Stan was not the problem this series
Bass wouldnt have help us win a game where only Dwight showed up.
Me Against The World And I'm Winning
when bass played a good amount of minutes
we won and when he didnt we lost, what is so hard to understand? and when vince was in we were worse than when we had JJ in (+22 compared to -24) and who decides who plays? that would be our head coach buddy so what arent you getting here?
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 29, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bass being in the game was just a coincedence.
And he almost destroyed our entire lead in one of the games he was in due to mistakes on defense.
The reasons we won game 4 and 5 were that Jameer was successfully attacking the defense, and Rashard had somewhat decent games. Brandon Bass was not the reason we won the games.
Not to mention he almost destroyed that lead in a span of 58 seconds.
Last night, while a horrible night for any Magic fan, was a perfect night for level-headed Magic fans. Would Bass really have made a difference last night? Is his transition D so spectacular that we’ve been missing out? Would he have stepped up and guarded Nate and Rondo, because that’s what got us in the hole we couldn’t dig out of.
Meanwhile, if we’re going to go on small sample sizes (as seems to be the case here), what’s your excuse for JJ’s performance last night, InOtisITrust? I guess we should have just left him in so he could feel good about himself and all the paranoid fans could feel like his mystical ways would carry us back into an 8 point loss instead of 14.
I’m not saying JJ hasn’t played his ass off, but last night he faltered. And if the game was as simple as putting JJ and Bass in, we could have won that series on accident. I’m tired of all the people trying to find a singular scapegoat in a series that has provided a ton of issues to point fingers at.
You can blame SVG, you can blame Vince, you can think JJ is a universally gifted wunderkind, and that’s all fine. But don’t be surprised that people who see the bigger picture don’t take you seriously as you proclaim such things are gospel truth.
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 29, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Second the nomination for dumbest post ever.
So short sighted its not even funny.
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by magicbasketballonline on May 29, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
again really?
did you miss games 1, 2, and 3? i was at games 1, 2, and 5 just like every other game this season…
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 29, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
brandon bass
is a banger and he actually goes for rebounds, other than dwight who does that? no one, he also attacks the basket which no one else like to do (vagina carter) and when that happens it opens everything up! and what do we do best? shoot 3’s! with a stagnant offense you dont get open shots but when people drive it makes the defense collapse and then you can kick it to open players for OPEN shots and do what we DID best, im sorry your so blind to all of this, i have not missed a game in three years buddy, so just look at the stats and you might realize how simple minded you are being, if there is one thing you cant argue that would be FACTS
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 29, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
FACT
Brandon Bass is not going to pass out to a player on the perimeter as he drives the lane, triple pump fakes, and clangs a shot off the back left side of the rim. So instead of “opening things up,” we now have a contested, and inefficient, shot with 3 guys standing on the 3-point line wishing they could have participated.
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I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 29, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, he isn't
Bass is a bad rebounder, no better than Lewis (Anderson is the best rebounder at the PF position on the Magic.)
He rarely attacks the basket – most of his shots are midrange jumpers – and he’s the worst passer at the PF position on the Magic, meaning even if he did attack the basket (which he doesn’t) he’d have the least chance of kicking it to an open shooter out of all the available options at his position.
Bass is a very good mid-range shooter and he brings lots of energy (which get him offensive boards), and he rarely turns the ball over (but neither does Lewis). Otherwise, he’s a liability on help defense, his rotations are poor, he doesn’t board defensively and never has, he doesn’t have the ability to either defend rangy PFs or space the floor with his shooter (it is unnecessary to have a strong inside defensive PF when Dwight is so good at that).
So, in fact, you may have gone to all the games and well done for that, but you’re utterly wrong about Bass’ game and I would suggest that is because you haven’t looked at the statistics.
by eltharion_doa on May 30, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Easy now.
Emotions seems to still be running high around here. No need to take out frustration on one another around here.
Bass is not what I’d refer to as a player who frees up the shooters. Bass hardly ever passes the ball. (The lob to Howard in this series is a huge exception….Bass went weeks in the regular season with decent playing time and zero- yes, zero – assists. So, when Bass gets the ball, there is only one thing the defense has to pay attention to: Bass.
You do have a point with the VC vs. JJ minutes in game 6. I wondered that, too.
"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy
word. Quick point:
‘vagina carter’ <— really?
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I think Carter got more time since JJ was missing shots to begin the game
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you people are nuts calling for svg’s head. the lack we have no closer is the problem. second of all the guy’s record is awesome, dwight and jameer like him, and he took us to the finals last year. no one has an answer for who to BRING in (you dont hire within, i hate when teams do that shit). long story short…he’s staying.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
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SVG is an elite coach.
Blame the players.
I thought the biggest problem was not pushing Jameer to run the O til gm4. But this isn’t a reactionary sport, you’re supposed to impose your will and effort and make the other team react. In that regard, it makes sense to give VC his Possessions and post Dwight against Perks. I still see SVG as a top 3, 4 Coach in the league tho. I would never get rid of him, he still made adjustments, post Shard, use Jameer more, play Bass and twin towers so he is terrific judging the offense and he has amazing plays and out of timeout plays. AND he is a truly defensive, hard motivating coach. The Magic would be dumb to lose SVG.
by derekk on May 29, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude..In Otis I Trust..no disrespect, but calm down, dude.
As a long time Magic fan, i TOTALLY agree with you on your frustration with the cash we have tied up in Carter & Lewis, versus the output we have from the guys..Rashad never even reached 10 points in MULTIPLE games this series..but i strongly have to disagree and urge you to STOP your namecalling in regards to Vince Carter. It’s pretty darn ugly, and really takes away from the decent points i think you DO make as it relates to your frustrations. I think breaking up last year’s team was a HUGE mistake, and you can check posts ive made from months earlier to prove this…now the world cand see the results of breaking up that team… I’m pissed too, but cursing Vince or calling a couple of players who currently represent our team a couple of “p*ssies” reflects bad on us as fans, and bad on the Magic blogosphere as a whole..imagine the joy Boston Celtic fans are getting out of watching us verbally pepper eachother and degrade a team that in less than a year earlier had us on Cloud 9 in the NBA Finals. So in a word or three….CHECK YOURSELF, INOTIS I TRUST….
i agree with 78
yeah this post is out of line…thank goodness the people that run the magic don’t overreact like fans on this site.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Like this guy:
well its obvious changes need to be made. dwight, jameer, and stan are committed…the others i dont know. i dont expect as much from the role players though. guys like MP will produce if the main guys produce. you know, you cant expect MP, Bass, Redick, Anderson, et al to individually get us going. the vince experiment is only going to weigh us down next year. i like the guy, but he needs to go.
"Where do you go from here, Dion?" "I go to Toronto."
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
sensitive ladies?
I’ve been a fan of the magic since their inception, so when they blow a series like that its kinda frustrating. So when they blew it i decided to come on here and share my opinion just like everyone else, but when i make a point i like to add some funny names, comical stuff to blow off steam, and lighten the mood a little. I’m sorry if your a little too sensitive, but i’m not sorry for sharing my opinion on a BLOG. I’m a man and i stand by all my statements. I could not care less what boston fans think because after that game 5 wooping we put on them i went on their blog site and they had posts saying “Orlando, Dwight howard in particular, is out to hurt the celtics players” and “The NBA’s Credibility Problem” talking about how the refs fixed the game, i think its funny how the celtics immediately go to the throat of the NBA when the special treatment they have been getting for 3 yrs now goes the other way for one game. So i really dont care what those sheltered spoiled bostonians think. I can share my opinion just like everyone else on here hoss.
oh and check yourself? really? im sorry i didnt know you were a ‘hustla’ please dont come lookin for me Gangster
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 30, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
homophobic and sexist slurs aren't funny
people aren’t “sensitive” when they express their displeasure with your language. You’re the one who’s being ridiculous.
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You can share your opinion
And when people think you’re being ignorant, insulting or discriminatory, they can call you on it.
If you want to exercise your right to free speech, you can’t put yourself in an ivory tower and expect to be immune from criticism as a result of that speech, or the way you express your opinions.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 1, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
very true
like i said before i was very upset when i originally posted this so there are probably some choice words i should have left out, and for that i am sorry if i offended anyone
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on Jun 1, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
+1 for Ben Q Rock
This post = D.U.M.B.
I bet your also one of the people who voted for the Magic to lose game 4 huh?
smack my head
When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan
by thermodynamic on May 30, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
if you really wanna start pointing fingers... I'd point it at VC.. our supposed final piece of the championship puzzle.
hey Jameer was pretty Jekyll and Hyde as well with turnovers Game 6
vince was at least attempting to compete in game 6
most everyone besides him and dwight looked disinterested in the game after boston built their lead
quick question
whats rec mean? and i figured this being off topic shouldn’t matter b/c this post is ridiculous anyway.
recommended
(at least thats what i think it means)
So as of right now, 82% of posters on OPP have common sense.
I’d say that’s a pretty solid number.
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That joke again?
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 30, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
not as good as mine
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 30, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
true
squids is better
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 30, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
eagle
still winning
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on May 30, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
What's up GMG, SLJ, and TJS?
My vote’s to the kid. Pretty badass. Not as badass as this kid though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEoYUF6ENF8
FEAR THE MEER!
He'll be dead of lung cancer by the time he reaches 50
months
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 30, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG! I saw this the other day!
That kid is a freaking badass. He smokes a couple packs a day. What a freak! Horrible parents.
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
Seriously! Who even let's their TEENAGERS smoke?
Let alone a two y/o.
And is it just me or does that cigarette look a little long? Maybe it just looks that way because of how small he is. Yikes.
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Yea. It's bc his hand is so freaking small.
Horrible, horrible parents. His dad is the one who gave him a cig in the first place. Cigarettes are expensive, I don’t know how they can afford for a 2 y/o to have that horrible habit!
I'm a girl too.
Haters gonna hate.
If it helps, he is now in the custody of child protective services
So now he will be a smoker who resents his government until the day he dies (which we’ve already decided won’t take too long). Anyone up for joining the new Indonesian Militia?
They call me Curmudgeon McMiserly.
I'm a guy.
by Sir Lawrence J on May 31, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't think he should be fired
But, I don’t think he put together an A performance vs Boston, either.
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and please STOP IT, with the friggin dumb ass surveys ! (they serve NO Point, other than stirring UP a pot that doesn’t need stirring) PEACE-MB
i guess they are right....
haters are gonna hate! hahahhahahaha
p.s.
the whole point of a blog site is to have a place where you can discuss a particular subject and share your own opinion with people you otherwise wouldnt ever talk to. so YES i am going to give people something to talk about
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is just putting on its shoes.
-Mark Twain
by InOtisITrust....well most of the time on Jun 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
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