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San Antonio Spurs 112, Orlando Magic 100

The Orlando Magic fought hard against a formidable San Antonio Spurs team Friday night, but ultimately had no answer for Manu Ginobili or Tim Duncan and lost, 112-100. Ginobili led everyone with a season-high 43 points on 13-of-25 from the floor and 14-of-17 from the foul line. Duncan, meanwhile, shrugged off early foul trouble--he picked up 3 in the first 4:32 of the game and sat until intermission--to score 23 points on 10-of-12 shooting to overwhelm Orlando's tired, slow defense. The Magic held their own offensively until the game's final minutes, besting their average points-per-possession mark and shooting an impressive effective field-goal percentage of 55.0. Rashard Lewis and Mickael Pietrus led Orlando with 18 points each and combined for 6 of its 10 three-pointers. But Dwight Howard's foul trouble and free-throw-shooting woes--he missed 9 of his 11 chances from the stripe--coupled with inefficient nights from Vince Carter and Jameer Nelson, put the Magic in a tough spot. Role-players like Pietrus and J.J. Redick stepped up to make the offense respectable, but again, the poor defense was the trouble here. San Antonio scored 112 points on 91 possessions for an offensive rating of 123.5, the best showing against the Magic since the Cavaliers rung 'em up for 131.6 in the last game before the All-Star break. Orlando drops to 9-9 on the second game of back-to-back sets this season, but its record stands at 44-14 when it has at least 1 day of rest.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic88113.955.0%15.026.212.5
Spurs91123.555.4%24.122.28.8
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Games in these situations present challenges to bloggers of the team on the second night of a back-to-back. If it loses, well, shucks, the schedule wasn't on its side. But if it wins? Outstanding, because it probably shouldn't have, and bloggers can play up the "overcoming adversity" angle. There's not often middle ground, in terms of blogging, here. I have to avoid falling into that "well, shucks" trap, which quite often does not credit the winning team near enough. And I don't doubt I'm guilty of it from time to time. Feel free to call me on that.

So I'll get it out of the way now: San Antonio played an excellent game. They shut down the Magic on the interior even in the first half without Duncan, playing the perimeter-oriented power forward Matt Bonner at center for some stretches. And on offense, Ginobili could hardly do any wrong. He's the single biggest reason the Spurs trailed by just 2 at halftime, keeping them afloat despite Duncan's foul trouble, Tony Parker's injury absence, and coach Gregg Popovich's early ejection. Just a magnificent performance, and it goes beyond the scoring. He's a brilliant passer from the two-guard position, finished with 5 assists on the night, and was the de-facto point guard for some of the fourth quarter as second-year point man George Hill took a well-earned breather. Ginobili's a one-time All-Star, a winner of the Sixth Man of the Year award, and an Olympic gold medalist, yet continues to be among the league's most overlooked players.

This wasn't an instance of a great player get unusually hot from the outside; he scored 43 with just 2 three-pointers. No, he drove into the teeth of Orlando's defense all night long, finishing all manner of off-balance scoops, floaters, and leaners with defenders draped over him. And if he couldn't finish, he drew plenty of fouls. Again, 43 points for Ginobili, and not many of them came easily.

Ginobili was hardly the only Spur to put his head down and drive the lane. Bonner, in fact, proved uncharacteristically aggressive. Prior to tonight, 62.9% of his shot attempts this season came from long range. But tonight, he took 8 of his 14 shots from inside the arc and played a style that resembled Lewis', attacking off the dribble whenever anyone chased him off the three-point line, then firing jumpers or baby-hooks before the help defense could recover. He finished with 15 points as the Spurs' third-leading scorer, which is extra remarkable because of how hard he worked defensively.

Throughout all four quarters, the Magic ran several pick-and-rolls in order to get Bonner switched onto Carter, Nelson, or even Mickael Pietrus. Magic color commentator Matt Guokas joked that he was going to get windburn at the rate those guys sped past him sometimes, but Bonner mostly acquitted himself. That Carter and Nelson took several long jumpers off the dribble even with the speed mismatch--or, with Lewis' size mismatch against a Spurs wing in the post--at their disposal only helped his cause.

Orlando lost by double-digits, but was still in the game late, and could have drawn even closer had it not made some key errors. A pair of free throws from Redick cut the Spurs' lead to 4 with 5:08 to play. Here's how the Magic's possessions ended from that point until the final horn:

  • Howard misses two free throws after drawing a shooting foul on Duncan
  • Redick misses a quick three-pointer
  • Howard makes one of two free throws as the Spurs intentionally foul him away from the ball; he was fortunate not to receive a technical foul himself, as he jawed with Spurs assistant coach Mike Budenholzer on the sideline. Budenholzer, who took over upon Popovich's ejection, made the call to hack Howard.
  • Howard makes one of two free throws as the Spurs foul him away from the ball once again.

Howard fouled out on the Spurs' ensuing possession, but he wasn't the only man to make an early exit. A Spurs fan sitting behind Orlando's bench began heckling Howard, but he didn't get too far, as security escorted him out. At the Brian Schmitz story linked in the penultimate bullet there, you can read more on what the fan said, and what Matt Barnes said in response to him. Barnes has indeed become quite the enforcer for Howard and has taken out his frustration on his opponents in several games prior to tonight. This time, it was a heckler who drew Barnes' ire. Well, he and Stan Van Gundy, with whom Schmitz reports Barnes engaged in a heated discussion when Van Gundy pulled him for good in the third period.

But back to that poor late execution. With Howard out of the game, the Spurs had no incentive to intentionally foul, and thus the Magic were allowed to run their offense again. Here's how it played out.

  • Nelson misses a jumper
  • Pietrus turns the ball over via a charge in transition; Ginobili snuck in to draw the foul.
  • Carter turns the ball over by losing his handle in traffic.
  • Redick turns the ball over by making a lazy pass to the top of the key, which Spurs forward Richard Jefferson intercepts. Orlando regains possession immediately, however, as he dribbles the ball off his foot trying to regain control.
  • Carter makes an uncontested layup.
  • Lewis misses a three-pointer.
  • Carter misses a three-pointer.

That's a missed shot, followed by 3 pretty senseless turnovers, right in succession, which ended any hope Orlando had of stealing this one. Maybe the Magic's focus would have been sharper if they had more time off. I don't know. But to me, the game came down to this: any time you're facing the Spurs, at the AT&T Center, and Ginobili and Duncan combine for 66 points on 72.1% True Shooting, you're going to lose no matter how much rest you have. Hats off to San Antonio, which worked hard, played smart, and truly earned this win.

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I just hate how games like this exposes how the Magic struggles when D12 is in foul trouble.

I guess another game like yesterday’s with the Mavs where Dwight had 0 fouls was not bound to happen so soon.

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by North of the South on Apr 3, 2010 2:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Usually, Gortat's able to come in and played well. Led the team w/ 7 boards and 3 blocks tonight, but missed 3 of his 4 shots and didn't play his usual brand of great D

Without Howard, Magic need Carter, Lewis, and Nelson to be on the attack. Didn’t exactly happen tonight. As I just tweeted, they combined for 1 free-throw attempt tonight. Matt Bonner, who’s attempted 40 FTs in 58 games, doubled them up.

Sort of emblematic of Orlando’s night.

by Evan Dunlap on Apr 3, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS DISPLEASES ME

I'm a girl.

"I thought the key to J.J.'s performance was that rest I gave him at the beginning of the game, that 1:35, so he could be fresh." --Stan Van Gundy

by TheGiantSquid on Apr 3, 2010 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree

Wish the Lakers and the Cavs would have lost too. But, at least we have pretty much clinched the #2 seed in the East.

by GoMagicGo on Apr 3, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the problem was that the team could never find a rhythm all night long

And it was the offense that was the real problem. When the Magic were up in the 1st half, that’s when Ginobili did “most” of his real damage.

I don’t think back to back’s are an excuse. Every team has them, and the Magic didn’t seem to be that tired physically. They just weren’t sharp in terms of execution. The Spurs used the uneven officiating to throw the Magic (particularly) Dwight off the mark some and it worked. Even though Duncan went out with 3 fouls, i thought Dwight didn’t do enough to keep himself in the game early in that 1st qtr. Almost immediately, it was a possession or two after Timmy’s 3rd foul, Dwight picks up his 2nd. I just rolled my eyes. I was like Dwight? Cmon bro.

I made a comment in the game thread that I’ll repeat here: Games like tonight are the big reasons the perception (not the reality) of the Magic exist they aren’t tough enough. I don’t really think that’s true because I think they really tried to persevere under some tough circumstances.

The loss doesn’t bother me, but the lack of execution does. This Magic team was better than this Spurs team and it took a Herculean performance along with a very good Timmy in the 2nd half to make the game to the point where the Spurs put enough pressure on the Magic. I never felt the Magic couldn’t win it; I just knew how they were executing suggested they wouldn’t. And that is the difference between a championship team and a team competing for the playoffs.

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by pookeyguru on Apr 3, 2010 6:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Amigo, I couldn't agree more that the execution was horrible last night.

However, I think an even more important attribute for a championship contender to have is the ability to bounce back from bad losses like this, which I’m sure they will.

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by Diosnomeama on Apr 3, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Si Amigo

I agree that an important attribute will be to keep plugging and knock Memphis out at home. The Magic have noone to blame but themselves for their own stumbles.

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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Apr 3, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They let the terrible officiating get into their heads.

The play that stands out to me is Pietrus’ charge call on Ginobli. If it were reversed, Ginobli would get the blocking call 11 times out of 10. Three of Dwight’s fouls were hardly fouls. (2 of Duncan’s first 3 fouls shouldn’t have really been called either). But Duncan was allowed to do whatever he wanted for pretty much the rest of the night. The refs seemed to go out of their way to keep him on the court, and they seem to never do the same to Dwight when he gets whistled for touch fouls/non calls.

Officiating got their heads out of the game but like Ben said, the reason we lost tonight was because we couldn’t play a lick of defense.

by MagicMark on Apr 3, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much.

I’ll chime in with the fact that the charge that Ginobli didn’t get called for that turned into 3 free throws somehow was one of the worst calls I’ve seen this year. The charge that Pietrus was called for late was also a terrible call, but not anywhere near the league of that Ginobli call that ended a quarter earlier. I mean, not only did Ginobli just run straight into him while Pietrus is just chilling there… he then just threw his arms up way late just to give the illusion that he was trying to shoot a three. And the refs somehow rewarded him for that.

Just horrible officiating all around, almost non-stop.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ginobili is a known flopper

He rivals Varejao in absurd flopping abilities. He gets calls a lot of the time too. Not fair and not cool, but that’s how the game is played.

by GoMagicGo on Apr 4, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last two games

In the playoff, these last two games says to me all the opposing team needs to do is drive down the middle. We could not stop Barea nor Ginobili. I can’t understand why when a player goes down the lane that he is allowed to shot the ball. We try to block the shot but there is a foul called and the ball goes in for a three point play. If you deck him, make him earn two points from the line. Make him think what is going to happen next time he comes down the lane. Guess what LeBron, Rondo, the rookie from NO, etc are going to do us? Coach better start working on that now because we saw last night playoff basketball, bad refs and a good team. The refs got into our heads more than Ginobili. Very frustrating to watch last night.

by far-way on Apr 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

The Magic did not allow a lot of points in the paint in the Dallas game.

Barea had a few floaters over Dwight, but besides that, no one else got in the lane. And they have a lot of penetrators more gifted than Barea; he just had a good 4th quarter. Tonight’s game was horrendous, but let’s not turn an outlier into a trend. The Magic were the #1 team in opponent’s points in the paint before this game, I believe. This was like a bizarro version of the last game we played against the Spurs. Usually, if you want to tell me that Matt Bonner is going to have to shoot like 6 running hooks off the dribble in a game, I’ll say “have at it, Matty”. Ginobli had a ton of really, really difficult finishes. Then there were just some bad defensive lapses on pick-and-rolls that left uncontested lay-ups. That won’t happen in the playoffs, and neither will back-to-backs (yes, everyone plays them, and yes, almost everyone universally sucks at them, so it’s a fair point to make in regards to the playoffs not having them).

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last two games

Barea ate Nelson lunch and Ginobili ate the Magic’s lunch. Like I said, guess what the other teams are going to do in the playoff’s?

by far-way on Apr 3, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said...

Two games out of 82. The much, much, much larger trend is the Magic have been one of, if not the best team in defending the paint. Settle down.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

this loss doesnt bother me too much

i know we all say the back end of a back too back shouldnt matter, but this is a magic team that has all but sealed up the 2 seed and just beat a good mavs team on the road. it was more of a pride game. did the magic care enough to try and not mail it in. even with d ho in foul trouble and the offense looking really weird to my naked eye they never gave up and fought to the end against that stupid crazy ginobili (who i hate) and against horrible refs (but i always think the refs are horrible). in the grand scheme of things its not a big deal and i expect them to bounce back strong after this frustrating loss and beat down the grizzles

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 3, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Falling another game behind the Lakers is the disappoint me for me.

"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy

by magicfaninTN on Apr 3, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

sigh

*typing fail, but you know what I mean.

"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy

by magicfaninTN on Apr 3, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the playoffs, Dwight CANNOT let the fouling get in his head.

He simply has to be focused at the line. This is almost ridiculous at this point in his career.

I hardly ever say this, but I appreciated Schmitz’s reporting this time, even if it is full of typos.

"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy

by magicfaninTN on Apr 3, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Although this loss didn't really hurt us in the standings...

it still really pissed me off due to the way we lost but hey, the other has to do what it’s gotta do to win. Overall, I think we still match up pretty well with the Spurs but Dwight and the gang let many things get to their heads last night. I find it a bit discouraging to see that but we overcame a lot of adversity and made it to the Finals last year and I believe we can do it again.

by GameManager on Apr 3, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

This was one of the most frustrating games to watch all season.

Horrible officiating (on both sides, but it’s still lame to watch refs bumble and stumble through a game almost constantly). Terrible pick-and-roll defense. Watching every Spur from Ginobli (who’s a gifted finisher) to Bonner (who is not) torch the interior of the Magic defense no matter if Dwight or Gortat were in there. Dwight’s free throws (the game possibly could’ve been a different story if he wasn’t struggling there so much). The Spurs breaking out the intentional fouling strategy (the absolute lamest strategy in possibly all of sports, tied with intentional walks). LA winning and going up by 2 games for the 2nd best overall record.

Yeah, that was pretty much all I could think of after this game. I hadn’t yelled an obscenity while watching a game since January. That streak was broken tonight. Whatever, time to beat Memphis on Sunday to make it so that we’ve beaten every team this year.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

It was one of the ugliest games I have seen this season, maybe the ugliest

But you have to expect that playing the Spurs. There’s not a more ugly team than them (maybe Detroit). As for intentional fouling… well, it’s by the rules, make your free-throws, don’t be a pussy, and shut them up.

by Raptorel on Apr 3, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree he needs to make them to shut them up.

But I’m against anything that really is manipulating rules against the spirit of a sport. If you have to foul him to keep him from scoring on the low block, sure, that’s fine. But I hated this when they pulled it out against the Suns with Shaq a few years ago and I hate it now and will continue to hate it. Play ball like a man.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might hate it, Dwight might hate it, but it's not illegal and you must deal with it

Make your free throws and it’s over. You score points and also add fouls on the players, and get in the penalty quicker, so you benefit your entire team.

by Raptorel on Apr 3, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom line: It's a cheap loophole when you have no better defense to prey on one shortcoming of someone's game.

It’s not how the game is intended to be played, even if it isn’t illegal. It’s like how you could play a game with a final score of 8-6 before the shot clock was invented. Sure, it’s legal, but it’s a bitch move and it’s a horrible product for the NBA to display. That’s especially true when you have what should be a game between two marquee teams, yet it’s decided with whistle blows non-stop.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I was the opposing coach and wanted to get in the playoffs, I would have done the same thing. It’s not right but legal along with this jumping into a defensive player for a trip to the foul line. It sucks and it’s all legal. Like it or dislike it – it’s part of the game. I said earlier that last night was a good example of a playoff game. Bad refs and two good teams. The Magic did not handle it very well.

by far-way on Apr 3, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully, the Magic learn from their mistakes and come back strong Sunday against the Grizzlies

This was only the 7th game all year the Magic have allowed 110+ points… they are 3-4 in those games.

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by Mike from Illinois on Apr 3, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Sooooo... here's a Dommsda y scenario for you all

Playoff time:

It’s 3 minutes to end of game; the Magic are in the middle of a comeback, down only by 4. The other team is over the foul limit.

The Magic take out the ball and… THEY foul Howard, away from the ball, to have HIM try two free throws. He misses one of two. THEY score next. Magic again with the ball; THEY foul him AGAIN… away from the ball. Again, he makes only one of two. They score again. Again, they foul Howard, away from the ball; THIRD time straight… They score a three…

End of comeback????

Please, tell me there IS a way to counter this!!! PLEASE!

Discuss…

by manny55 on Apr 3, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Take out Dwight for a minute until it gets to 2 minutes left?

Gortat is almost always a worthy substitute, and down the stretch the ball should be in the hands of Vince and Jameer anyways. Gortat can set picks, rebound and play interior defense for a minute. Of course, this is all moot if Dwight is focused and is shooting at least 65% from the line, which he is certainly capable of for stretches.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Apr 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get some defensive stops? In your doomsday scenario you have the other team scoring three straight times. If we can’t stop the other team from scoring, it’s nearly impossible to come back.

by VinnieDaSquid on Apr 3, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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