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Orlando Magic News for March 5th: a Scout on a Potential Magic/Cavaliers Playoff Matchup; Dwight Howard's Impact

  • What scouts are saying at quarter pole

    An anonymous scout tells ESPN.com what he'd expect in a playoff series between the Orlando Magic and the Cleveland Cavaliers, starting with Shaquille O'Neal's effect on Dwight Howard [brackets his]:

    "Is Shaq in Dwight's head? Yeah, somewhat. It kind of reminds me how Detroit used to give Dwight problems. But Shaq can only do it in spurts. Over the course of seven games, Dwight's youth and athleticism takes over. The biggest X-factor in a Cleveland-Orlando series is whether Vince Carter shows up. If he shows up, they're a team that can go all the way. But Vince needs pats on the back and Stan [Van Gundy] is not that kind of coach. He takes every possession so personally."

  • BDL's Award Tour, March Edition

    Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie finally places Howard atop his list to win the Defensive Player of the Year award. And, for the first time, Howard appears on Dwyer's MVP ballot. Here's why:

    Focus on what he doesn't do right all you want, if that's your bag. My bag is to understand that defense is half the game, and that this dominant defender's offensive gifts far outweigh the defensive contributions of some of the players that didn't make my top three.

  • A New Way to Look at Basket Protection

    Tom Haberstroh of Hoopdata, writing again for Hardwood Paroxysm, examines a variety of statistics concerning defending the paint and concludes, "The Magic protect the basket better than any other team in the NBA and they own the third best defense in the land. He’s why." Haberstroh is, of course, referring to Howard.

More after the jump.

Star-divide

  • The State of APBRmetrics
    UPDATE (from Eddy): Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus discusses the state of APBRmetrics, which is the analysis of basketball through objective evidence. APBR stands for the Association of Professional Basketball Research. A must-read. 

  • The state of basketball analysis
    UPDATE 2 (from Eddy): Henry Abbott of TrueHoop speaks with Dean Oliver, the author of Basketball on Paper and the director of quantitative analysis for the Denver Nuggets.

    Does [the role of advanced statistics] feel a little bit cultural? Sometimes I feel like basketball is the realm of the jocks, some of who object to nerds elbowing their way into the conversation.

    [...] It’s an interesting time. Just a couple of weeks ago, I looked at teams that have stats people integrated into the decision process. (Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Oklahoma City, Portland and I may have included Orlando -- I’m not certain what they do exactly.) It was seven or eight teams. They had won 60% of their games, and that’s counting Houston, which has only won half their games because they’re missing Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady wasn’t playing.

  • Orlando Magic look to big picture as they face the lowly Nets
    UPDATE 3 (from Eddy): Tania Ganguli notes that the Magic are looking at the big picture as the regular season starts to wind down with 20 games left on the schedule.

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With regards to Tom Haberstroh's comments

Every time I watch ESPN’s top 10 and see LBJ or some other super-star absolutely posterize some unsuspecting center in the NBA I always find myself asking the quewstion,

“Would he have tried that had Dwight been patrolling the pain?”

The answer for those that are rhetorically challenged is, No.

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by Wally Balls 407 on Mar 5, 2010 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

I posted a link to that HP post in your Howard Manifesto comments.

I liked this part:

“Perhaps the reason Dwight Howard isn’t getting the MVP recognition many believe he deserves is because he impacts the game in ways that the media can’t articulate. Well here’s the evidence they’re missing. The Magic protect the basket better than any other team in the NBA and they own the third best defense in the land. He’s why.”

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Exactly, several media outlets just check the points stat line and draw conclusions.

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by Wmillion on Mar 5, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I tried to articulate in my manifesto.

If Howard did what he did on defense on offense, there would be a different perception of him.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

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by erivera7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

In some ways, this reminds me of how people tend to treat a player like Dennis Rodman.

The guy was a rebounding machine at 6-7, was a good defender, and generally hustled his ass off, but since he didn’t average 30 points a game, he wasn’t/isn’t considered an elite player.

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by Diosnomeama on Mar 6, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

He's a Hall of Famer in my book.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Mar 6, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That Scout saying they'd build around KD over Dwight

is high on what he’s smoking. In the land of the lost big men, which is what the NBA currently is, Dwight’s impact on the game is second to only LeBron.

“Kevin isn’t creating for other guys and he can’t do what LeBron does on the defensive side. He’s not making other players better like LeBron. But I don’t see how you can name anybody else better to build around because of Durant’s age.”

So now age trumps skill? Dwight at age 24 is an old man? The guy says Durant doesn’t make players around him better, isn’t a great defender & can’t create shots for his teammates but he’s taking Durant over anybody not named LeBron?

“Some people might choose Dwight Howard to build around because he’s a big guy, but I wouldn’t.”

That’s great insight. The best defender in the league, makes everyone around him better, creates shots for his teammates off the double team, has 6 years of NBA experience, Finals experience, ECF experience and 38 total games of playoff experience but you’re not going to build around him because you’ve got a man-crush on Durant and his 2 years of NBA experience and zero playoff experience. LMAO

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by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

yeah that's what I thought too

when I read that. Kinda contradicts himself, don’t you think.

looks like it’s not just a man crush, the way he mentions Durant’s age makes him sound like a paedophile

by RL Magic on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

""Is Shaq in Dwight's head? Yeah, somewhat. It kind of reminds me how Detroit used to give Dwight problems."

What is this guy talking about? If anything, Dwight is his Shaq’s head because Shaq is the one that keeps wanting to compare the two, not Dwight. I know that’s partly because that’s Shaq’s personality, but if Dwight weren’t a threat to Shaq, he wouldn’t even be bothered to discuss him.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I have to admit I was a bit dumb-founded by some of the responses from the scouts.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Mar 5, 2010 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

people say crazy things when they are anonymous

i don’t even pay attention to any of the talking heads

by MagicMark on Mar 5, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't blame you for taking that approach.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Mar 6, 2010 3:03 AM EST up reply actions  

about Kelly Dwyer's article regarding DPoY

who exactly is even remotely close to Dwight in the race? This shouldn’t even be a discussion, people are saying Varejao, but in my opinion it’s just like how people are ignoring Dwight in the MVP discussion, Lebron is just that far ahead of everyone, just like Dwight is in DPoY.

by RL Magic on Mar 6, 2010 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

There's no one remotely close, in my opinion.

The disparity in the DPoY discussion is similar to the disparity in the MVP discussion. It’s Dwight & LeBron.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Mar 6, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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