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Tonight's Orlando Magic Game: at New Jersey Nets

Orlando Magic at New Jersey Nets, Mar 5, 2010 8:00 PM EST


The Orlando Magic head to New Jersey to take on the Nets tonight in a matchup of two teams with close ties, yet lie on opposite ends of the NBA success spectrum. New Jersey still has a chance at setting the NBA's all-time futility record of 9-73, and would need to win 4 of its next 22 games to avoid going down in history for the wrong reasons; attendance is so bad that the Nets have resorted to shameless, albeit innovative, promotions to draw fans in, like the one tonight which offers free income tax preparation. Orlando, in contrast, is playing its best ball of the season and has the inside track to the second seed in the Eastern Conference. The teams changed each other's fortunes on draft night when the Magic sent Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, and Courtney Lee up the coast for Ryan Anderson and Vince Carter. NetsDaily, the latest addition to the SB Nation network, elaborates:

The last time Vince Carter was at the IZOD, it was the Nets home opener, hopes were (moderately) high and Lawrence Frank was head coach. My how things have changed.

Indeed.

Star-divide

2009/2010 NBA Season
Orlando Magic main logo
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New Jersey Nets main logo
42-206-54
March 5th, 2010
Izod Center
8:00 PM
Fox Sports Florida
Probable Starters
Jameer Nelson PG Devin Harris
Vince Carter SG Chris Douglas-Roberts
Matt Barnes SF Trenton Hassell
Rashard Lewis PF Yi Jianlian
Dwight Howard C Brook Lopez
Previous Meetings
October 30th: Magic 95, Nets 85
November 13th: Magic 88, Nets 72
Game Officials
Bill Kennedy
Kane Fitzgerald
Derek Richardson

As the Nets are one of the worst teams in history, it doesn't do much good for me to tell you that they're terrible. But it does bear noting that the Nets took down the Celtics in Boston, and handily, just last Sunday. And that today is Friday, and bad things have happened to Orlando in its last several Friday games. And that Lee, who insists he'll play despite his coach's assertion that he's doubtful, has come on strong since the All-Star Break concluded (16.8 points per game on 58.1% True Shooting) and is highly motivated to give the Magic what-for.

So Lee could present a problem, if he plays. Backcourt-mate Devin Harris has also played better of late and is a strong candidate to draw fouls on his way to the basket. Magic center Dwight Howard has more-or-less locked down Brook Lopez, his New Jersey counterpart, in his career, but Lopez is still quite skilled and isn't someone defenses can afford to ignore.

But what I'm watching most tonight is the Magic's power forward rotation against the Nets', uh, decidedly less-than-stellar one. Brandon Bass has temporarily taken Anderson's backup role, but Anderson could get the nod tonight against Easy Yi Jianlian, a perimeter-oriented four-man. On the other hand, Yi's backup, Kris Humphries, is an offensively minded bulldog who can score and rebound in a hurry, although he's not exactly efficient. Bass is probably better suited to check Humphries than Anderson is. How will coach Stan Van Gundy juggle those minutes tonight?

Also, keep an eye on Carter. He was well on his way to a 40-point outburst against New Jersey earlier this season, with 16 points in 15 minutes before spraining his ankle by stepping on Harris' shoe.

Really, though, Brian Schmitz said it best about this game (brackets mine):

The Magic need to do what they did against the Warriors [on Wednesday] — put the Nets out of their misery early and don't allow anything to happen in a tight fourth quarter.

Run the pick-and-roll, play lock-down D, and end this one quickly. New Jersey has, by far, the worst offense in the league--the difference between the Nets' offense and 29th-ranked Minnesota's is greater than the distance between Minnesota's and 23rd-ranked Milwaukee--while Orlando has one of the best defenses. If the Magic play hard, execute, and take the Nets seriously, this one should be over by halftime. If not, there's a chance the Magic could join the Celtics, Knicks, Bobcats, Bulls, and Clippers as New Jersey's lone victims this season.

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Why so bad?

Why is a team with Lopez, Lee, Harris, Yi etc so woeful? The first three could start on the majority of teams in the league..

by Half-man Half-gortat on Mar 5, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

Douglas-Roberts isn't bad.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I would add that most of the players know that they will probably be gone next year to make room for the LeBron Sweepstakes.

It’s probably hard to care about winning when you’re basically being treated like a rental.

After the game, the Suns announcers asked Lopez what he was going to do to celebrate and he said, "I'm going to kill Bart Simpson."

by Diosnomeama on Mar 5, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The Magic are 10 1/2 point favorites

…with an over/under of 196 1/2.

The Nets are averaging 90.3 ppg on 42.8% shooting, while allowing 101.1 ppg on 48.2% shooting.

The Nets are 2-30 against teams with a winning record, and 1-33 against teams averaging more than 99 ppg.

The Magic are 6-7 on Friday nights.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

I haven’t even checked the scoreboard yet.

Wonder how long that lead will last.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Cavs have cut the lead to 9.

If Cleveland somehow loses this game I will be very surprised, despite being down 20 at one point in the 2nd qtr.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Though I'm obviously rooting against the Cavs every night!

I just can’t say that I’m rooting FOR the Pistons though. It won’t happen! lol

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't really be paying attention to the Nets other that scoreboard watching.

Why is he inactive? I would assume it’s injury related, but what is the injury? Or is it something else?

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

A sprained left ankle for CLee

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that was easy!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Feed the beast, indeed!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

Going away from the Beast!!!!

sigh

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Sooo IF the Nets would take JJ for Lee straight up (salaries not withstanding) would you do it?

I would.

JJ’s been MUCH improved this year but I still like Lee’s D, relative youth and upside better.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

During last year's off-season, definitely.

Now? =shrug=

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Redick is a restricted free agent after this season

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Lee has shown nothing until the last few weeks. We are better off with JJ.

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Matty Barnes taking over!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

10 for Barnes already!

He’s gonna get 40 tonight!

LOL

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Matt Barnes...

OWNS YOU!

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

12 for Barnes

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

12 for Matty B!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Hatas.

When it comes to Eric Berry, Tennessee fans have seen and heard it all. He's known as "The Fifth Dimension". "Two-thirds of the planet is covered by water; the rest is covered by Eric Berry." The Tennessee "Minister of Defense". Besides Chuck Norris, who is the only guy to crash into Tim Tebow head-to-head and live to tell about it? Eric Berry.

by 4QB on Mar 5, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

OMFG!@!!!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

14 for Barnes!!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

14 for Barnsey!

He’s UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!!!!!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Barnes and Howard are a combined 9 for 9 for all 20 Magic points

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome to the Matt Barnes show!

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Barnes will score a season high tonight!

And MAYBE even a career high too!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

What are his season and career highs?

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

It seems Barnsey scored 28 this year and 36 for his career high.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

28 points vs denver @ denver is his season high

36 is his career high which he scored while playing for the Warriors and against Memphis

by MagicMark on Mar 5, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Lakers down 6 at the half in Charlotte!

Not sure if I want them coming to Orlando on a 2 game losing streak or not.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Hey I say let 'em lose EVERY game . . .

It’s not like their gonna get any MORE fired up to play us than they already will be.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Barnes season high for the Magic is 28 points

…against Denver on Jan. 13th.

His career high is 36 points set in January of ’07 with Golden St.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

In that game with Golden St against Memphis, Barnes attempted 16 three pointers

…and made 7.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

VC's got a nice FT shot . . .

When he’s NOT shooting technicals that is!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

11 assists on 12 field goals for the Magic in the first

…and only 2 turnovers.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

He's the stats man

sung to the tune of “Soul Man”

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm holding out hope that my mentioning that won't jinx the Magic tonight :-)

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic outshooting the Nets 57% to 32%

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

In other NBA news..

Boston is in a close one with Philly and Cleveland is down 15 halfway into the 3rd.

by TheNole9Yards on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't even realize the Cavs/Pistons game is on ESPN

I just tuned it in.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

and the Lakers are down 12 in Charlotte.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Meanwhile...

Detroit’s got a big lead on Cleveland. Charlotte the same vs. the Lakers. Boston and Philly are close, and the Hawks are a few points ahead of the Warriors.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

Bass unimpressive on D so far.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, but the previous two?

He chased his man out of bounds behind the basket while the guy was going in right behind him, then left Humphries, who promptly got an open shot. (Which he didn’t make.)

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

9-4 NJ edge here in the second

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

JWill!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

x2

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

There's more than one LeBron?

I certainly HOPE not.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which...

Lebron just called a sidebar and tried to plead his case for God knows how long because the refs dared to call a foul on him.

by TheNole9Yards on Mar 5, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic 6 of 11 on threes after the two threes by JWill

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

And then to dribble into a more difficult shot!

He does that crap all time and I have no idea why.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s French, who can figure them out anyway?

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough first half for Lewis

1 for 7 shooting for 5 points.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

LOL @ Gortat knocking over Yi like a bowling pin!

I MUST BREAK YOU!!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

VC not so hot 2nite . . .

thus far anywayz.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

Lewis and Carter a combined 1 for 11 shooting in the first half

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Throw in JJ for 2 for 15

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Update from around the association:

Lakers down 12 after 3 in Charlotte
Cavs down 5 with 1:23 left in the 3rd
Hawks down 6 with 8:40 left in the 3rd
Celtics up 8 with 5+ left in the 4th

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good second quarter for NJ

…outscoring the Magic 25-18.

Magic shoot only 7 for 21 in the second quarter.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

At the half...

I can’t believe we (the Nets) are only down 7.

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Bad second quarter for the Magic

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic missed their last 6 three pointers in the second

…and are 6 for 17 on threes for the half.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

…Which is bizarre, considering the Nets are just about the worst in the league at defending the perimeter

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of what the numbers may say

VC & J.J. should never be on the floor at the same time. We get absolutely destroyed on the boards every time. And we’ve got to stop shooting the 3 so much. We missed the first 4 3’s and then started going to the cutter instead of the open 3 and we converted on 4-4 for 8 points compared to 0-4 for 0 points. A wide open 3 is still settling when we can get any shot we want.

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah; 17 threes attempted is too many

D12 has only 5 shot attempts so far.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Arguing with numbers is a fruitless chore.

history doesn’t change just because you think it is wrong.

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully, Dwight gets more chances in the second half

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nets have bad defense all around, and we could be running a layup line against them

no reason for 4 people to have as many or more attempts than dwight in the game

by MagicMark on Mar 5, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah; I'm sure Van Gundy said something about that to them in the locker room

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, the Nets have been doubling Dwight hard and he’s been passing out of it. That’s why he hasn’t shot it much.

by VinnieDaSquid on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Interior D isn't a weak point for the Nets.

I mean, as compared to their many other weaknesses.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I don't know what the +/- numbers say when VC & J.J. are on the floor at the same time

so I said “regardless of what they may say”. What I’ve noticed is that we get smashed on the boards at both the 2 & 3 spot when they play together. +/- is often deceiving. For example: Bass and his +21 against GSW yet he was only 3-8 for 10 points. It wasn’t because of Bass that we took over, he just happened to be on the floor when others took over.

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Cats up 15 on the Lakeshow with 8:30 left,

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Hawks down 5 to GS at home with 4:53 left in the 3rd

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Nelson with 7 first half assists

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

As much as I hate the guy, I don’t see how that was a foul on Yi (stealing the ball from Dwight)

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's hilarious that the Nets have a player that's name almost wraps all the way around the back of the jersey

in Chris Douglas-Roberts, then another player with the shortest possible name in Yi.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Shortets possible name?

What about Dr. J?

…oh, wait.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

VC 3 4 3!!!!!!!!!!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

Vince heating up!

That last one was DEEEEEEEEEEEP!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

He's gonna have to pay roaming charges on that one!

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeek.

I’ll take the three points, but I don’t want Carter shooting that shot.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve never minded him shooting that shot… after he’s found his range, that is.

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you always say it's better to take a three than a long two?

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want long twos OR 27-foot threes.

Same principle — you can get the same number of points for a better shot.

Goes double for Vince. He shot reckless long threes throughout the first half of the season.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed... but I think he's done a lot better this last month in not taking so ny reckless threes

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

*so many reckless threes

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He certainly has.

Which is what worries me — the idea that he might fall back into those habits.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

His last 3 was to make up for the one about 90 seconds ago that didn’t beat the buzzer. You’re right though, the most recent one was from about 5 feet beyond the line

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Boston won, Cleveland winning, Hawks winning...

…and the Lakers getting BLOWN OUT!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Three threes for Carter here in the third

He’s got 11 points all of a sudden.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, just noticed that on the Yahoo! GameChannel

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice flop by Matt

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Jameer in double figures now with 11 points

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

Yikes... Howard has almost as many turnovers as shot attempts

5 turnovers, 6 shot attempts.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Rashard continues to struggle on 1 of 10 shooting

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

glad we are playing the Nets

Maybe you know Judo, maybe I know Smith and Wesson.

by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Dwight is getting the touches

but not converting; 5 TO’s.

Glad we are playing the Nets

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that’s just how we Nets fans roll lol.

I think the dude got one of the Lopez/Dwight reversible jerseys.

'The Crossover' - a Nets and Knicks podcast. http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=268817312

by Rusty_b on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Much better defensive quarter for the Magic

They outscore NJ 22-14 as the Nets shot just 3 of 14 in the third.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Jason Williams' best night in a while

10 points on 4 of 6 shooting.

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Vince with the nasty throw down!!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

VC PHI SLAMMA JAMMA!!!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

No, that was Houston in the NCAA’s losing to NC State.

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

...in April of 1983

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler

they were the better players, but the Wolfpack showed that team play can win. LeBron did not watch that game, BTY.

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Who can forget the layup from Lorenzo Charles to win the game

…off the miss from the long three by the Wolfpack.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Atlanta will escape with a win against the Warriors

…123-118 in the final seconds.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Booo!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This must be a season high for Pietrus in assists

…he has 3 assists to go along with 5 points.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Peaches with the pump fake and drive?

‘Bout f’n time!

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Mar 5, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Nets doing well on free throw shooting

…19 of 20.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Considering that the Nets are flirting with becoming the worst team ever . . .

They do seem to TRY to play hard . . . @ least against us anywayz.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

The Celtics can vouch for that

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Bass in there to finish the game it looks like

Another DNP-CD for Ryan Anderson.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

As long as the Magic can make their FTs, they should win the game by double figures

They were favored to win by 10 1/2.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

I like that Stan is working different combinations against weaker teams

but it pains me to see the busted plays and FU D.

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

D12 needs 1 more point for a double/double

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

9 pt game!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

12 whew

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Peaches in double figs with 10

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

A win is a win

…no matter if it’s by 2 points or 22 points.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of like me passing history

3.0 overall; 4.0 in math and physics. A win is a win.

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

After a torrid start, Barnes ends up with only 16 pts!

Only 2 pts in the last 3 qtrs!

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

Almost 7 players in double figures.

Barnes, Carter, Nelson, Howard, Pietrus, Williams.

Rashard had 9 points on an ugly 3-14 from the field.

by MagicMark on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

D12 had a great defensive game

…16 rebounds, 4 blocks, 3 steals.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

Magic outshoot the Nets 44% to 40%

They also outrebound the Nets 47-38, and outscore the Nets 39-12 from three point range.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yahoo sports says

Detroit’s Rodney Stuckey(notes) was conscious and breathing on his own as he was taken to a hospital after collapsing on the Pistons’ bench during a game Friday night.

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

They just had an update on ESPN also

All his vital signs appear good.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Scary stuff.

Sigh . . . Now I need new AVATAR!

by blue-blood on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic will need to play better against the Lakers Sunday

The Lakers will be angry after losing two games in a row, but I’m confident the Magic can find a way to win.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

last time we played a team that had lost two games in a row, we won on a sunday

we will bring the effort against a good team. it was obvious that the guys were playing down to new jersey tonight.

by MagicMark on Mar 5, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The Magic should be pumped up, no question

…playing in front of a sold-out crowd on National TV against the defending World Champs who won the title on the Magic home floor last season.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Denver Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin(notes) has a partial tear of his left patella tendon

bad day all around

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by NC Magic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I realized, oh, around three minutes into the second half

that a) there was no way we were losing this game, and b) there was no way anything interesting was going to happen. Turned the game off shortly after that, and what do you know, I was right.

Lakers up next. I SO hope they abandon this Bass experiment now that we’re looking at a tough game.

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by 3.3seconds on Mar 5, 2010 10:50 PM EST reply actions  

I would normally say heck yes but...

RA has been pretty cold lately and that scares me. He doesn’t drive, he is a 3-point player. So, if he is cold I don’t know if I can trust him on the court. But I still heart RA.

by GoMagicGo on Mar 5, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

"Cold" doesn't exist.

It’s just a product of sample size. Give Anderson enough shots, and he’ll gradually move right back up to his average.

(Unless he’s injured or something — unless something is affecting his aim, or his ability to get open. But if he’s physically the same guy we always had. he just needs to keep shooting — things will even out.)

Anyway, the way I see it, Ryan doesn’t need to score to be the better option. He’s the better rebounder and… well, he’s less of a liability on D, let’s put it that way.

And Bass’ scoring hasn’t exactly done us much good… 9-22 shooting (and 5-6 free throws) for 23 points in the least 4 games.

In Anderson’s last six games, he’s 8-23 from the field… for 22 points. And when you factor in that RA’s two free throw attempts in this stretch were both and-1s, he’s used up 2 less possessions than Bass. So neither one of them has been effective in the last week or two… but it seems odd to call what Ryan’s doing a “slump” and not apply the same language to Bass.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 6, 2010 5:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel you

but I thought Bass played a very solid game. Uber-aggressive on the boards and he attacked the basket when the defense gave him space for a mid range jumper so I like that he didn’t just settle when there was an open lane. I don’t know how much of that -6 was on him. He played a lot in the 2nd quarter when we got smoked 25-17 because of the 3 point settling and sloppy execution.

What if we go with what’s working against a given team? Give whomever the initial PT and if they’re producing keep them in but if they’re stinking up the joint insert the other PF.

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by Warlando on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Since the Magic have won 6 of their last 7 games, I'd be surprised if Van Gundy changes to Anderson over Bass

Bass has played in 5 of those 7 games (Cleveland, Miami, Philadelphia, Golden State, New Jersey) which were all wins.

Anderson needs to keep working hard in practice and maintain a positive attitude, as his chance will come again.

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by Mike from Illinois on Mar 6, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that's necessarily going to work.

The conventional wisdom is that players need to know whether they’re going to play. I feel like we’re better off with a set lineup.

And anyway, our second unit defense has been extremely ragged these last couple weeks. I’m not saying Bass is the only reason for this — J-Will, for one, has looked less than sharp on D lately, even by his standards — but given Bass’ notable difficulties staying in position (which were very much on display tonight), I wouldn’t discount him.

(If we have to play Bass, can we at least stop him from scuffling around for offensive boards? Dude needs to get back — any team with a viable transition offense will kill us. The guy has as many offensive rebounds as defensive rebounds. Granted, that’s partially because his defensive rebounding is so abysmal, )

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Mar 6, 2010 4:52 AM EST up reply actions  

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