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Similar Defensive Approaches Fuel the Orlando Magic's and San Antonio Spurs' Success

In previewing the Orlando Magic's game tonight against the San Antonio Spurs, Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel notes that Magic GM Otis Smith seems to have built his team in the Spurs' image:

If there was an NBA team that the Orlando Magic modeled themselves after, it would be tonight's guest, the San Antonio Spurs.

Magic General Manager Otis Smith, long an admirer of the four-time champions, can point to the Spurs' businesslike approach to the way they've surrounded a great big man ( Tim Duncan) with sharpshooters through the years.

It's a fair comparison. Quite fair, as we'll soon see. Dwight Howard fills Orlando's Duncan role as the franchise center, while there are also parallels to draw at other positions. Speedy point guards Jameer Nelson and Tony Parker run the Magic's and Spurs' offense, respectively, with a shoot-first mentality, though Nelson is more likely to pull up for a jumper than drive to the basket, which runs counter to Parker's M.O. Vince Carter and Manu Ginobili can score quickly and efficiently from the shooting guard position while providing help on the glass and in running the offense. Small forwards Mickael Pietrus and Keith Bogans lurk in the corners, waiting for a kickout from their center or a ball-reversal from the wing to snipe from long-range. Stan Van Gundy and Gregg Popovich roam the sidelines, having earned their peers' respect with their meticulous preparation and deft playcalling despite never having played at the NBA level.

But where the comparison between the two teams is most convincing is on defense, not on offense. The similarity between both teams' approaches on that side of the floor boggles, really. We'll take a look at it after the jump.

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As promised, here's the chart. You can click it to view a larger version of it:

As you can see, since Van Gundy took over the Magic in 2007, the teams have succeeded on defense using the same methods. They defend the three-point line well, don't gamble for steals, crash the defensive glass, and avoid sending their opponents to the foul line.

Those second and fourth points are what stand out to me most, and make this comparison meaningful. All coaches, regardless of individual defensive philosophy, preach the importance of defending the three-point line and limiting second-chance opportunities. What makes Van Gundy and Popovich more unique is that they punt the turnover category, instead emphasizing staying with your man and not gambling for steals. Think about it: when was the last time you saw Pietrus dart into the passing lane for a steal? Or Bogans, who spent part of last season and all of 2007/08 with Orlando? That's rare. Deflections are a bit more common, sure, but there are few teams who consciously make this sort of effort.

The foul-shooting similarity also reveals insight into the coaches' philosophy. The free throw is among the most efficient shots in the sport because it is routine: it's always worth 1 point, always from 15 feet away, and always with the clock stopped. Play aggressive defense and contest every shot, Van Gundy and Popovich say, but don't hack people. Some old-school coaches stress the opposite of that last point: take, for instance, many of Jerry Sloan's Utah Jazz outfits, or the "no layups" Detroit Pistons of the 1980s and early 1990s. This approach values "sending a message" to the opponent over logic.

It's also worth noting that the Magic and the Spurs employ advanced statistical analysts, with Orlando installing its analytics department at Van Gundy's request in 2007.

What characterizes both the Magic's and Spurs' defensive philosophies, then, is discipline: the will to stay with your man on each play, and the will to keep your hands to yourself around the basket area. Of course it helps that both teams employ stellar defensive centers who keep everything under control, and one wonders if these coaches would use this approach if they had a less skilled defender manning the pivot. But as presently coached and constructed, the Magic and Spurs operate similarly on the defensive end. Considering the Spurs' lofty standing and long-term success among all professional sports franchises, that bodes well for Orlando.

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hey if the Magic had a run like the Spurs in the 00s, i'll take it

we never had a David Robinson though – I suppose Dwight is a fusion of the Spurs twin towers, with a bank shot under construction

by RL Magic on Mar 17, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I was under the impression that SA's defense had fallen of the past couple of seasons, especially this one.

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

*fallen off

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that a compliment? :)

I can’t take all the credit for it though. I just thought of some random sentence, and Google translator did the rest.

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 17, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was supposed to be "I like to eat large quantities of candle wax. Really? Cheese omelette sir!"

Thanks for nothing, Google.

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I forgot about the "vraiment"

which means “truly” more than anything else. I think. It’s been a while, not gonna lie.

….so, like…why?

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Mar 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for the hell of it, I guess. Reasoning wasn't a big part of it.

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 17, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is?

J'aime manger de grandes quantités de cire de bougie. Vraiment? Omelette du fromage monsieur!

by Diosnomeama on Mar 18, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

being compared to the SA Spurs is an honor.

If we turn out like they did, I’ll be very pleased.

Vince Carter - Half Man, Half Retired

Matt Barnes - Half Man, Half Tattoo

by magic12ball on Mar 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Compare to League Average?

Hey BQR, I’d love to see your chart include the league averages during the same time period to give even more context.

by Matt_G on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope at a good game for Vince

I’ll always remember Vince scoring 43 points against the Spurs in less than 3 quarters until he got tangled up with… well… Bruce Lee Bowen and got his second technical and got ejected. He probably would’ve scored over 60 points.

by Raptorel on Mar 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

One more factor!

Transition defense. Both teams are exemplary defensive rebounding teams. But neither gambles for offensive rebounds, preferring to get back at full strength on the other end. I don’t know if there’s a stat out there showing fast-break points as a percentage of points allowed, but the Spurs and the Magic would have to be right up there on a regular basis.

Bass is a kind of fish.

by 3.3seconds on Mar 17, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually Orlando is #1, but San Antonio is #21

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/opponent-fastbreak-points-per-game

"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy

by magicfaninTN on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year.

I wouldn’t be surprised if that number was a lot lower when the Spurs were in their prime…

Bass is a kind of fish.

by 3.3seconds on Mar 17, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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