Orlando Magic 113, Los Angeles Clippers 87
Coming off one of its biggest wins of the season against the Los Angeles Lakers, if there was a storyline to look at before last night’s game, it was this … how would the Orlando Magic perform versus the Los Angeles Clippers? There is an inclination, at times, for teams in the NBA to have a letdown after a victory against a marquee opponent. But head coach Stan Van Gundy made an excellent point before the game when asked if the Magic were in for a trap against the Clippers. Van Gundy’s answer, more or less, was no because Orlando has shown the ability to win games this season in convincing fashion after coming off huge victories versus teams like the Boston Celtics, Cleveland Cavaliers, and others.
Yesterday was no different, as the Magic out-classed the Clippers by the score of 113-87. Orlando had a 10 point lead in the first quarter against Los Angeles and never looked back. Balance was the name of the game for the Magic, as six players scored in double-figures. Dwight Howard led the way for Orlando with 22 points (9-12 FG, 4-4 FT), 15 rebounds, and 2 blocks. Oh, and Howard had one dazzling assist on a fast break that sent the sell-out crowd at the Amway Arena into a frenzy. Jameer Nelson, who has been playing at a different level since the All-Star break, continued his sterling play with 17 points (6-13 FG, 3-6 3PT), 8 assists, 5 rebounds, and 0 turnovers. The Clippers were led by Baron Davis, who had 16 points (7-15 FG, 2-4 3PT), 9 assists, and 4 rebounds. And general manager Mike Dunleavy Sr. was fired, to boot.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clippers | 91 | 95.6 | 47.7% | 5.8 | 20.5 | 14.3 |
| Magic | 91 | 123.5 | 54.9% | 13.0 | 23.3 | 8.7 |
| Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average; red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average. |
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Honestly, this game could be summed up in one sentence.
The better team won.
Orlando came away with the victory, partly because it has better players than Los Angeles, but more so because the team executed nearly flawlessly the entire game. Especially on offense. Whenever the Magic ran 4-out/1-in offensive sets for Howard, the Clippers elected to double-team him in the post, and usually he either passed the basketball to the open man or scored. Whenever the Magic dribble penetrated, the Clippers’ interior defense was forced to collapse, and that opened things up around the perimeter for spot-up shooters like J.J. Redick to knock down some jumpshots. Whenever the Magic executed pick and rolls, sometimes the Clippers would do a horrendous job of defending it and its players would be scrambling for position, only to be too late – more often than not – in their rotations, switches, etc. For example, in the second quarter, Vince Carter ran a 2/4 pick and roll and Brandon Bass made the mid-range jumper. On the very next possession for Orlando, Carter made a three-pointer with no one near him after he ran another 2/4 pick and roll with Bass and his defender, Steve Novak, inexplicably left him alone. It was one of those nights for Los Angeles.
In contrast, the Magic’s team defense was excellent.
Howard, in particular, should be praised for not committing a single foul but the Clippers should be ashamed they let such a thing happen. Howard accomplished the same feat against the Golden State Warriors last week but that’s a team that doesn’t have a low-post presence like Chris Kaman. Los Angeles does, yet he was a minimal threat to Orlando. Instead, the Clippers didn’t attack the basket a lot, settled for jumpers, and the results weren’t good aside from the three-point shooting. Before the game, Van Gundy told me that Orlando needed to do several things on the defensive side of the ball to beat Los Angeles: defend the post-ups, defend the pick and rolls, keep the basketball out of the paint, and limit the three-point shot.
Check, check, check, and … well, three out of four isn’t bad, even though Van Gundy noted that limiting threes has been the Magic's one weakness on defense this year.
Still, Orlando is hitting its stride and doing so at an opportune time. The playoffs would be the perfect time to see this type of basketball from the team but nevertheless, the players on the Magic are gaining confidence as the sense of urgency grows and the postseason looms closer.
Kudos to Bass, by the way, who arguably played one of his best games in an Orlando uniform and is looking better on defense. Bass still has some kinks he needs to work on and he’s still adjusting to playing defense the majority of the time at power forward instead of at center, but he’s looking better on that end of the floor.
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The Magic decisively had the advantage in each of the four factors
No letdown for the Magic after their very emotional and physical contest against the Lakers.
Both teams combined to shoot just 18 free throws the whole game; the Magic had attempted 18 free throws in the first quarter by themselves against the Lakers.
The Magic shot 100% from the free throw line (12 of 12), which is very unusual. I’m sure that’s the first time this season they’ve done that.
"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7
by Mike from Illinois on Mar 10, 2010 4:00 AM EST reply actions
Kaman's not a power guy, though.
He’s a good center, but odd as it seems to say, he’s more of a finesse player. He’s got solid moves and good positioning inside, but doesn’t have massive upper-body strength for a big man. Historically, the players who give Dwight trouble are the ones who can hang with him in a shoving match under the basket.
It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...
A la Andrew Bogut
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Mar 10, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Except he hasn't given Dwight problems in the past.
Although he’s much improved and looks like a different player in the past couple months. I like his game a lot right now.
I hate Varejao.
Agreed
Bogut has improved his game tremendously the past few months.
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Mar 10, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
No, but he's still a legitimate low-post threat.
I’m surprised the Clippers didn’t go to him more but hey, I ain’t going to complain.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Yeah, that was odd.
Especially considering that their other two legitimate threats were out and sick.
Bass is a kind of fish.
Clippers site pointted out another oddity.
Dwight played 32:17 this game. That’s not strange. What is strange: all of those minutes were consecutive. Dwight played the entire first half, the first 8:17 of the third quarter, and then sat permanently. I’ve seen guys play the whole game a few times before, and definitely several whole halves, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a pattern like that.
Bass is a kind of fish.
Van Gundy said that he played Howard the entire first half because he wasn't tired.
Plus he wasn’t in foul trouble, either.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Magic must be one special team
The convincing fashion of their victory midway through the game convinced the Clippers that they needed a new general manager.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
I'm sure Ben or E will post it later...
…but I just read on Yahoo that the Magic might want Steve Blake this summer.
Yeah, it was referencing something written in NBA Fanhouse
You can find the article here:
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/03/09/stats-trump-winning-in-clipperland/
However, I got the impression it was more about the author conjecturing that the Magic could possibly be interested in Blake since J-Will & AJ are free agents, but there was nothing concrete. Drew Gooden was also mentioned as possibly coming to Orlando as well.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Potvak? Conjecture? Get outta here!
"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy
by magicfaninTN on Mar 10, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Clips Announcers
Articulated something I have felt for a while, Bass will be valuable come playoff time
"This is not such a bad thing to be: a deep, talented underdog with Finals experience."~Ian Thomsen on the Orlando Magic.
If he's good enough to be valuable in the playoffs, wouldn't he be valuable now?
It’s not a different game. The playoffs and the regular season both consist entirely of basketball. Either he’s valuable as a basketball player, or he’s not.
He’s an inefficient scorer who hasn’t recorded an assist in almost two months, he’s averaging less than 1 defensive rebound per 10 minutes, and he’s still regularly missing defensive assignments. Unlike Anderson, who’s had some bad luck on shots, Bass is playing up to his potential right now… it’s just that his potential sucks.
Bass is a kind of fish.
Bass is a good player
The Magic’s system is what doesn’t fit him. He has been used to playing bigger slower players, its just like when Rashard moves to the 3 spot, he looks lost defensively cause he isn’t used to playing players faster than him (smile and point Redick, you have earned it, its not you anymore!). Bass will fill in nicely against the bigger PF’s and the slower half court pace, and I think he has played pretty well of late, and getting him time will only help. Anderson is a pretty good player, but he hasn’t exactly been playing that well on either end either, so why not give the B-Man a whorl and get him ready to play so both he and Anderson can pitch in when needed.
it helps that we've been smashing teams
so that both backup PF’s have been receiving some minutes. Although SVG did say Ryan won’t be riding the pine all the way to the playoffs, so I wonder when that’ll happen
Well, think about it, Bass has been used to playing centers.
Now he’s playing power forward. It’s been an adjustment period for him on a lot of different levels.
I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
It’s not a different game
You are right. Its the same as the regular season.
I forgot
"This is not such a bad thing to be: a deep, talented underdog with Finals experience."~Ian Thomsen on the Orlando Magic.
Magic are +51 rebounding the last 8 games...
that Bass was in for at least 9 minutes. We are +5 the last 9 games RA played at last 9 minutes. Magic record during those 9 games was 5-4. Record during Bass’ 8 games is 8-0.
Neither one is above a slump so we should go with what’s working. We need wins for homecourt in the 2nd rd and a more favorable matchup so we’re fresh for the ECF rematch. I think Rashard being a savage stretch 4 makes us think RA will be/is too but even aside from the offense, Rashard’s a much better defender & knows the team like he’s been there for 5 years.
I think both RA & Bass will get minutes as they ready for the playoffs. If RA plays more within the offense he will get out of that slump and get his confidence back. In garbage time he should focus on his defense & shot selection. That’s what Stan seems to emphasize to everyone. When RA’s on point he’s better than Bass when he’s on point. It’s the 0- and 1- that could be the difference in tight games. Bass can help in the postseason when they’re letting them play physical.
Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP
Talk about statistics out of context.
So you’re saying Bass’ rebounding is the difference? You certainly seem to infer it.
Taking the season as a whole….
Rebounding rate ON COURT vs. OFF COURT (Offensive/Defensive/Total Rate)
Five-man units with Anderson: ( +2.96% / +1.66% / +4.62% )
Five-man units with Bass: ( +2.40% / -1.58% / +0.82% )
Which means for the season, Anderson on the floor has resulted in the Magic getting +3.8% more rebounds than the opposition than when Bass is on the floor. And remember, our defensive rebounding is the oppositions offensive rebounding—letting them retain possession. The good news is they both help the team rebound at a better rate than Lewis.
[Not adjusted for the other 4 players in the unit….but both players spend most of their time as the backup and I assume almost equal distribution of time alongside Howard, Gortat, and Barnes.]
Further, when Bass is on the court, the Magic’s eFG% drops 3%. With Anderson it improves 1.7%.
With Bass on the floor, opponents’ eFG% improves 3.8%. With Anderson it drops 0.9%
The net differences: Bass = -6.8% & Anderson = +4.7% = 11.5% Huge!
Granted, Bass is playing [tons] better lately. I wish it were easier to break down stats by time period (as you have done) without having to do so much of the work myself so we could see trends during certain months, etc. My version of Excel is so old it can’t even handle the available online data to crunch stuff myself. sigh.
"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy
by magicfaninTN on Mar 10, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Stats are nice
But you can watch the game and see what is going on as well. Numbers just help add weight to theories. Anderson looked a little phased by his shooting slump, and the more he missed, the more he seemed to want to shoot his way out of it. I recall him taking some ill advised shots and not make the extra pass. I think a little break and competition is just what he needs to focus on the little things. Move the ball, hustle, shoot the open shots, crash the boards and move on defense (boxing out, etc.). And this will boost Bass’s readiness if/when we play teams with big PF’s. I would like to see the Magic utilize Bass similar to how Horace Grant was used (on offense). Grant had the same offensive game that Bass has, and Shaq and Grant worked great together (not comparing defense, so don’t bash me). IF Grant hadn’t injured his elbow, I think the Magic would’ve given the Bulls a better run for their money. Point being, Howard could have great spacing with Bass at the elbow ready to shoot a high percentage open two pointer, and sometimes it will be an easier pass to make.
Okay, what suggests that Bass improves the team's rebounding?
The team stats suggest that it’s not true. Bass’ own stats — he’s been hopeless on the boards this year, not even managing to pull down one defensive board per ten minutes — suggest that it’s not true.
And your notion re: Bass passing to Howard is damaged by a) the fact that Battie had a similar mid-range jumper, and that failed utterly to stretch the floor, and b) the fact that Bass doesn’t have a single assist since January 13. That’s 120+ minutes on the court since his last assist. Now, tell me, who’s he passing to?
Bass is a kind of fish.
Nothing
Bass has just been getting PT while Dwight, VC, Jameer & Barnes have been lighting it up and getting most of the boards (Marcin too).
Ryan is the better player, has faced more of the elite teams, has put up better #’s against those elite teams, better fits the offense, etc. etc.
He’s in a slump so Bass got the PT in the 6 game streak. Bass has done some good things in those 6 games so he’s not hurting the team on the court IMO. SVG wants them both ready for the playoffs so RA should see those minutes within the next 5-10 games. Figure if RA plays within the offense like earlier and knocks down his shots, he may get the backup spot again but it’s not important right now. No matter who gets it SVG will probably switch between RA & Bass throughout the post season and some Twin Towers based on what’s working & what weaknesses he can expose.
If RA never gets in a slump Bass is still sitting on the bench right now waiting to be traded in the off season. RA put himself on the bench, creating this opportunity for Bass and he’s making the most of it. As long as they play to better the team and not to compete for the backup PF spot I think it will work out really well in the Magic’s favor since they’ll both be playoff ready and odds of them both slumping are slim.
Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP
But given that Ryan in his slump is at least as good , if not better, than Bass OUT of a slump...
…why is Bass playing so much? It’s not a situation where Ryan’s better than Bass in general, but Ryan’s in a slump, so Bass is better. Ryan in his slump STILL beats Bass — he’s a better rebounder, a better passer, and Bass isn’t really a more efficient scorer by any appreciable margin. For Bass to be better than even Ryan’s worst-case scenario, he’d have to play better than his level of talent allows.
There is no contest here. And moreover, there’s reason to believe that perpetuating the illusion of a contest is causing both players to play worse basketball — nerves, ball-hogging, etc. It’s not causing both players to excel; it’s certainly not helping Bass, and it may well be hurting Ryan.
Bass is a kind of fish.
Honestly, the reason why Bass is getting PT...
Just might boil down to improving his value to teams who want a banger down low. People were questioning whether Bass was worth even the modest contract the Magic signed him to. I still think he certainly could be in the right system, just not ours. So if Stan can play Bass, “showcase” him a little while not hurting our team currently, than sure. I would like RA to get PT in the last few games leading to the playoffs though so they’re both ready. Stan just needs to communicate to Bass and Anderson that they both need to be ready.
I hate Varejao.
Fair enough...
…though I fear “they both need to be ready” is translating in these players’ minds as “you need to beat this other guy out for the spot”, with harmful results.
Bass is a kind of fish.
Want to know why Bass has been playing?
It’s because the Magic have been winning. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Other Bass observations from the Clips game.
In the 2:15 just before the end of the half SVG went with
Nelson-Carter (then JJ for 0:13 more)-Lewis-Bass-Howard.
In that 2:28, Orlando went on an 11-0 run vs. the Clips starters: Blake-Butler-Outlaw-Gooden-Kaman. Bass got a jumper, a dunk (ast by Howard), a block, a defensive rebound, and no fouls. fwiw, since I know there is always a movement afoot for Lewis at SF. Works in small sample sizes.
In the 4Q
Bass was in for 4:13 with JWill-Carter/JJ-MP-Gortat (I’ll include the Clips PF in the same period):
Craig Smith makes an 11ft jumper
Bass blocked by Jordan on a 5 ft’r
Craig Smith makes layup
Bass offensive foul/TO
Bass makes 13 ft’r
Smith misses 6 footer
Smith makes layup
Bass shooting foul on Smith
Ryan Anderson in for Bass
Smith makes 1-2 FTs
Ryan Anderson driving dunk….
Not as great of a sequence for Bass versus Craig Smith, but it was pretty much garbage time by then anyway. Again, fwiw….small sample size.
"I've had people say, 'I don't need to check the [player statistics]. I've seen it with my eyes.' Well, I would also say your eyes lie to you sometimes, and some of the guys you may really like and think are really doing things, when you get deeper into it, aren't or vice versa." ~Stan Van Gundy

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