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Orlando Magic News for February 5th: Jameer Nelson's Return; Opinions on Vince Carter and Brandon Bass

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  • Jameer Nelson to start tonight against the Wizards
    News on Jameer Nelson.

    Jameer Nelson will start at point guard tonight for the Orlando Magic against the Washington Wizards, Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said after the team completed its shootaround moments ago.

    Van Gundy said he hasn’t been given any playing-time restrictions for Nelson, who hyperextended his left knee Sunday and missed Tuesday’s game against Milwaukee.

    Nelson said he has no concerns that playing five games in seven nights will take a toll on his knee.
  • It’s official: J.J. Redick will not compete in All-Star Weekend’s 3-point shooting contest
    Josh Robbins shares information that J.J. Redick, officially, will not compete in the 2010 Three-Point Shootout.

    A few minutes ago, the NBA released the names of the six participants for this year’s Three-Point Shootout.

    J.J. Redick’s name isn’t on the list.

    Redick expected as much, because he hadn’t received an invite from the league.  
  • Zach Randolph, Vince Carter among best, worst offseason moves
    Britt Robson of Sports Illustrated takes a look back at the most significant acquisitions this past off-season in the NBA. Here's his take on Vince Carter's arrival to the Orlando Magic:

    Carter, whose teams have never gone beyond the second round of the playoffs, has a chance to bolster his reputation by adequately replacing the departed Hedo Turkoglu. But for that to happen, the 33-year-old guard, who long thrived on his athleticism, will have to get healthy, play smarter and take advantage of his opportunities in the clutch.

More after the jump.

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  • 2010 NBA All-Stars: Where They From?
    M. Haubs of The Painted Area takes a look at the backgrounds of each of the All-Stars - "where they came from, how much college ball they played, when they were drafted, how they got to their current teams."

  • Brandon Bass Makes His Frustration Known
    Eric Freeman of The Baseline chimes in on the issue of Brandon Bass' lack of playing time, which seems to be a hot topic at the moment.

    It makes you wonder what the Magic were thinking when they picked him up. After last season's Finals loss to the Lakers, the Magic clearly entered the summer looking to stock up on talent wherever they could. However, with all those big men in town, someone was going to end up unhappy, and the byproduct of the situation is an air of disappointment and frustration that can pervade the whole locker room. What looked good on paper has had unforeseen negative consequences.
  • Arenas to Orlando? Magic GM "not necessarily sure"
    Michael Lee of the Washington Post gets general manager Otis Smith's take on Gilbert Arenas.

    He said he understands why people have been quick to mention the Magic as a possible future home for Arenas. "Familiarity," Smith said. "It's somebody he's familiar with. Everyone would make that connection because I'm the general manager and I've been a mentor of his since he came into the league. That's an easy connection. I'm not necessarily sure that's going to happen. We have a long way to go before we get to the basketball portion of his career."

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He needs to just chill and enjoy the ride. He needs to understand that at this point he if like Anthony Johnson: an insurance policy.

"In Otis We Trust"

by SpencerStorch on Feb 5, 2010 4:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I agree

All the players and coaches have all said what a positive influence and great joy he is in the locker room. And it’s not like he’s just sitting around, he’s trying to get better and earn some playing time.

by GoMagicGo on Feb 5, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 5, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

John Denton says:

Bass is one of the most well-liked players on the team, usually staying long after games to joke in the locker room with teammates. That, he said, has helped him cope with not playing in an odd sort of way. And he’s drawn the praise of Van Gundy for his practice habits, continuing to work hard in drills at familiarizing himself with the Magic’s defensive rotations and offensive sets.
 
Does not sound like someone “disrupting” the locker room.

by NC Magic Fan on Feb 5, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was in the locker room after the game against Utah (I think), and he was really having a lot of fun with Jameer, A.J., and Dwight.

Dwight cracked on Bass for staying around and being so talkative. Bass said, "I’m fellowshippin’," and Jameer responded with something like, "You don’t fellowship when you don’t play!" which cracked everyone up.

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 5, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing with that Bass comment..

was that he offers NO examples or quotes supporting his theory. It was just something thrown out there that is an opinion stated as fact, which is how most news is reported anyway.

Still I’d love to see Bass get some PT at Anderson’s expense. If I want to see a white guy miss jumpers, I’ll go shoot in the driveway. I know, I know, Anderson’s PER is better or what have you. Just my opinion.

by cambi1 on Feb 5, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anderson is better then Bass by every possible metric that's measured out there. Not just PER.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 5, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well thats why

It was my opinion. However I need a larger sample size with Bass before I really would use metrics to compare the 2. He simply hasn’t gotten enough meaningful minutes to make a fair comparison.

by cambi1 on Feb 5, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Then use Bass' entire career as a measuring stick.

Prior to this season, Bass had appeared in 210 games, playing 3561 minutes, with a PER of 15.2 and a TReb% of 13.4. Anderson’s got him beat in those factors as well.

It’s not a sample-size issue.

by Ben Q Rock on Feb 5, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What are you suggesting Bass can do better than he has?

He’s probably a better rebounder than we’ve seen, just because the guy we’ve seen is a TERRIBLE rebounder. But even at his best, he’s never been a good rebounder… a barely average one, maybe.

And defensive metrics being what they are, I don’t think any stats are going to change the impression everyone’s gotten so far, which is that he struggles to grasp Stan’s defensive schemes and frequently finds himself out of position.

The former is unlikely to change much… the latter COULD change, but that’s the kind of change that can usually be seen in practice.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Feb 5, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, from what I've heard in the past, Bass has had trouble remembering the plays.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 6, 2010 2:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Not remembering the plays is the kind of thing where you don’t need to play him to find out if he’s improved. You can see if he’s remembering the plays in practice. (I suspect he’s not.)

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Feb 6, 2010 6:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he's not playing so that should tell you something.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 6, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Valid opinion

If they’re contested or long 2’s we would likely put up more points with Bass’ mid-range jumper but on defense we probably would give up more points and commit more fouls & TO’s.
Anderson is a better rebounder, offensively he’s got great quickness in the post and finishes well at the rim. He plays fearless which works well with our run/hustle team mentality. We’ve also got to have that spacing and against the few teams it’s sometimes worth it to give up spacing, it makes more sense to have Gortat as the PF because or defense gets much better and second chance points open up on offense. Just my opinion.

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man

by Warlando on Feb 5, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Those are the most efficient shots, so that's great.

If you can get yourself in the position to take the most efficient shots, that’s a skill in of itself. I think Ryan has a bright future. I’m still replaying that spin move he put on Josh Smith (who is admittedly one of my favorite players right now) in the last game against the Hawks in my head on a daily basis.

by slickw143 on Feb 5, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Has there been a disruption in the locker room this season?

Even during that skid the locker room seemed ok. Dwight said something about not to worry, they’d be fine. I think they’re 7-1 since then.

Playing Magic basketball right now and SVG is coaching well ala J.J. seeing more minutes than VC in the DET & ATL games. I also liked that number he did on Boston with Rashard at SF & Gortat at PF. We won all 3 of those games. If they all keep executing at a high level (SVG included) & stay healthy we can end the regular season primed for another long post season run. I think Hedo was in a slump the first half of last season but he reminded us that it only matters how you finish the post season. VC has a chance to echo that sentiment.

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man

by Warlando on Feb 5, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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