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Orlando Magic 99, Milwaukee Bucks 82

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Vince Carter played his finest all-around game since joining the Orlando Magic, Dwight Howard controlled the lane on both ends of the floor, and Orlando made the most of its transition opportunities en route to blowing out the Milwaukee Bucks by a 99-82 final. Carter scored 17 points on 52.1% True Shooting--not great, but significantly better than the 38.7% mark he posted in January--grabbed 10 rebounds, and handed out 7 assists, providing hope that his shooting struggles are behind him. Besides Carter and Howard, four other Magic players scored in double-figures in what was a balanced attack against a top-10 defensive team, albeit one on the second night of a back-to-back. Guards Charlie Bell and Luke Ridnour combined for 26 of Milwaukee's points, but center Andrew Bogut scored just 10, and he failed to score after the 7:42 mark of the decisive second quarter. Orlando limited Milwaukee, which got off to a scorching start, to just 10 points in the period while scoring 27 itself, giving it a 14-point lead that the Bucks never seriously challenged. The Magic have now won 7 of their last 8 games.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Bucks9190.540.1%9.924.69.9
Magic90109.852.8%33.816.715.5
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

I mentioned that Carter's True Shooting figure isn't great, which is true... but it's encouraging in context. He only bested that mark in an individual game twice last month, in back-to-back wins over Sacramento and Charlotte. Prior to those contests, the most recent game in which he posted a better True Shooting mark than he did tonight was on December 30th, also against Milwaukee. What I'm getting at is Carter really looked sharp, sharper than he has in a while. He set the tone when he scored Orlando's first points, cutting to the basket after making an entry pass to Howard, which Howard promptly returned for the easy lay-up. Overall, he shot 4-of-5 at the rim and made two of his 3 three-pointers. His in-between game needed work, as he connected on just 1 of his 7 shots between the rim and the arc, but overall? Solid.

What was more impressive, to me, was his passing. Two incredible assists stick out to me. On the first, he streaked to the right wing in transition and threw a bounce pass, on the move, to a spot just a few feet to his right. A trailing J.J. Redick stepped into the pass and uncorked a three-pointer, one of his team-leading three treys tonight. A bit later, Carter ran a high screen-and-roll with Marcin Gortat, driving to his right around Gortat's screen. Gortat's man came to trap, but Carter saw an opportunity and took advantage, throwing a lob to Gortat from his hip, on the move, for a layup in traffic. There are few players in the league who can make that pass. Carter's one of them, and he's always had that ability in 'im. He showed it tonight.

Howard might've been even better than Carter. Shutting Bogut down after his hot start is one thing, but his help defense was useful, and he even managed to block a 19-foot jumper of Kurt Thomas', at which even Thomas had to smile. Howard's no longer coasting on the defensive end, as he did at times during the earlier part of the season. Offensively, he fared well against Bogut and Thomas, two above-average defenders. On one sequence, he used the same manuever on Bogut thrice in a row, posting up on the left block, taking a few hard dribbles toward the lane with his right hand, then spinning toward the baseline and lofting in a hook with his left. The hard work he's putting in during practices and shootarounds is paying off; those hooks, as Magic color man Matt Guokas pointed out, came from a difficult angle along the baseline. There's no glass on which to rely, and as such there's very little margin for error.

I should mention that despite the fairly balanced offense, the Magic just barely beat their season average in offensive efficiency and effective field goal shooting. Rashard Lewis and Carter were a bit too fond of the pull-up two-pointer tonight, which hurt Orlando's percentage from the field. But Milwaukee's airly surprising inability to rotate to Orlando's three-point shooters, and its foul-happy defensive approach, bailed the Magic out.

Speaking of bailing the Magic out, how about Matt Barnes tonight? He cherrypicked his way to at least two layups and a few more trips to the foul line, and scored 11 points on a mere 5 shots as a result. And Jason Williams, in his 18th spot-start for Jameer Nelson at point guard, with 11 points, a season-high-tying 5 rebounds, and 5 assists without a turnover.

Come to think of it, Bucks forward Carlos Delfino helped the Magic out a bit as well. He took a team-high 13 shots, but missed 11 of them. Thomas, Luke Ridnour, and Hakim Warrick--all reserves--were the only Bucks to shoot well, so it's debatable whether or not passing up some of those shots would have mattered much overall. Still, the low-efficiency wing took more shots than the high-efficiency (on most nights) center, which hurt the offense. Sounds like a problem to which Orlando can relate.

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They looked "winded" after the first 6 minutes.

And they had a comfortable win last night against Miami, and it’s a short trip from there to here. I don’t think the back-to-back had much to do with tonight. The Magic just played great defense after those first 6 minutes.

by slickw143 on Feb 2, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando is really starting to look more and more like an elite defensive unit.

Helps when Howard is dominating on defense, but just saying.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes indeed.

I believe they’ve moved into 4th in def. efficiency now. Right around Cleveland and Charlotte numbers.

by slickw143 on Feb 3, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Still 5th, but the Magic could move up quickly with a few more great defensive outings.

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by erivera7 on Feb 4, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice game play by all tonight

VC back in business (hopefully).

by GoMagicGo on Feb 2, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Missed the game.

Good to see the team dominate a team they are supposed to dominate.

20 and 10 D12-love it
VC getting his swag back-love it

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by Wmillion on Feb 2, 2010 11:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

D12s lefty hook was money. His game is becoming refined.

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by Wmillion on Feb 3, 2010 1:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Deftly. I think it’s been by far the best development the past couple of weeks or so.

by derekk on Feb 3, 2010 7:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He had three lefty hooks in a row in the second quarter. So pretty.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So what's with the Lawrence Frank thing?

I missed the game too (LOST), but saw various tweets about him being there. Stan mention anything about him in the PC?

by bandrewg08 on Feb 2, 2010 11:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

story here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4880545

Doesn’t say exactly what he was doing, but probably just observing Vince and offering some sort of advice I imagine.

by MagicMark on Feb 2, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lawrence Frank has been the single most positive influence on Vince Carter's career.

Save perhaps Charles Oakley… but Lawrence knew exactly how to get the most out of Vince Carter. Vince feeds off his optimism. You guys have only seen the “shell-of-what-he-once-was” Vince Carter and have been berating him all season for it, but you gotta stick it out a little longer. This is the guy that you’ll be seeing come playoff time. It’s all psychological. Once he turns the corner completely, it’s gonna be fun to watch.

The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.

by ben_gleicher on Feb 2, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely. Sign him us as an assistant..

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by Wmillion on Feb 3, 2010 1:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt that'll happen, but you never know.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, he's too good of a coach to be just an assistant.

It would definitely be a huge coup for Van Gundy’s staff though. It’s unlikely Frank would find a head coaching job this late in the season (unless the Nets call again), and he is an absolute hoops junkie, so perhaps he’d be up for it.

But I’m also not sure how that would affect the “coaching” chemistry.

by thermodynamic on Feb 4, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

VC turning the corner will be fun to watch.

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by Wmillion on Feb 2, 2010 11:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

THIS

IS why I have never hopped on the Trade Vince Bandwagon.

A game IN Boston I believe he played well. After I saw that game I knew VC would be alright come playoff time. The time that TRULY counts.

"Memphis then used a pick-and-roll to get Conley free and he drove past Shaquille O'Neal for the go-ahead layup."

by BS Patrol on Feb 3, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%!

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by Bonafidebrother on Feb 3, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree. Great game for the Magic.

by derekk on Feb 3, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

VC played smart basketball.

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by Wmillion on Feb 3, 2010 1:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

More importantly, he played like Vince Carter.

He was aggressive on offense and didn’t settle much.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So-Called Fans

I want to call out a few fans who sit in my section because I know they read this website (And this goes to all so-called fans). I am disgusted to hear you booing Vince during pre-game introductions. I was apalled to hear you calling him a hack and screaming for a trade for TMac. I am not an all time Vince fan or anything but that is no way to stand behind your team. I understand we all expected the Vince of old, but that’s no reason to call him a hack and boo him before the game starts. Vince has had two injuries this year and has come back early from each. He probably did more harm than good in some games but that doesn’t mean the effort wasn’t there. And that’s all we expect from our team is to give their full effort. That’s why we all love Matt Barnes. I didn’t hear you guys booing Rashard or calling him names when he was going through a slump. Truth of the matter is, Vince has at the very least been a positive influence in our locker room and that was easily seen in Dwight’s face and comments while Vince was giving a post-game interview on the court. I’m sorry to make such a negative comment on such a positive night, but I think in light of Vince’s performance tonight he deserves your respect. Go Magic!

by McDee on Feb 3, 2010 12:26 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I am a Magic fan but not necessarily a VC fan

I’m certain I don’t sit in your section because I never would scream for a TMac trade. I’ve been a season ticket holder for years. Struggled through the 21-61 season with TMac and even before that. My reaction when we traded for VC was “Can he adjust to being a team player and not having to be the star?” My disappointment, and cause for my boos recently, was that VC continued to try to attempt to be the player that he thought he was – the star of a team. That sure didn’t work with TMac when we lost 61 games. We need VC to fit into the overall team and just be part of its depth. We will only win a championship with solid team play by everyone. VC stunk it up in January. As indicated on this web site through detailed statistical analysis, VC was trying to do too much and be the star. There are many other weapons on this team. Tonight VC played well. Didn’t take too many circus shots, passed the ball well and it was nice to see him play team basketball. As a UCLA alum that saw the John Wooden years, I really enjoy solid team play. The Magic will win with team play.

by Bruin_Alum on Feb 3, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

read my signature

"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball

by magic12ball on Feb 3, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Clee a lot

but let’s be realistic for a minute. There are dozens of Courtney Lee’s and Rafer Alston’s but only a hand full of VC’s and Ryan Anderson’s. We got an aged but still top 5 SG when he’s healthy and a 21 year old spread PF who has shown a plethora of offensive versatility. Truth-be-told, the Magic made out like bandits. We got 2 players who are capable of putting us over the top in exchange for 2 role players including one with a worse shot selection than VC (Rafer). Not to mention the VC signing enabling us to refuse Hedo’s 5 year contract demand and still improve the roster from last season.

by Warlando on Feb 3, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree, good points

"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball

by magic12ball on Feb 3, 2010 2:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee's starters combined to score just 35 points

…on 14 of 46 shooting. I don’t think I’ve ever so few points scored from a team’s starting five for a whole game.

The Magic starters combined for 74 points.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 3, 2010 4:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Legs were tired, Howard was a monster on defense, etc.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I had the grand opportunity of sitting in the luxury seats last night...

but…sitting in the upper bowl and some parts of the lower bowl seem more fun to me. Don’t get me wrong, i love the view and everything but I mean it was like crickets down there….me and my homeboy were the only ones cheering and we were behind the Bucks bench. I would scream something related to Memphis when Hakim Warrick would shoot free throws! he missed a more than a few!

I figured that this would happen for VC and soon…my reasoning….call it crazy but if you look at VC and his uniform, tell me whats different? the length of the sleeves on the undershirt…when he was injured, longer sleeves, last night….short sleeves with a little pad for contact. I relate that to VC getting healthy and getting out of the funk..LOL… but call it what you will…I am just glad that the Magic are playing like the MAGIC!

"THERE ARE NO FLAGS ON THE FIELD!!!!!"
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by Bonafidebrother on Feb 3, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

FOR REAL!

It’s so awkward sitting in the luxury seats, because no one really cares about the game that much. I think it is because most of them are season ticket holders. But, they really make you feel like an idiot when you’re cheering and everyone is kinda looking at you like shut up. The people in the upper bowl are just happy to be at the game. But, hey tickets are tickets and as long as you make your own fun, who cares.

by GoMagicGo on Feb 3, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I noticed that about his sleeves being shorter too

I also noticed, since I DVR the games and watch them later at night, that on VC’s last possession, he posted someone up (maybe Stackhouse), and right before he made his move he pointed to someone in the front row and said something, he then proceeded to turn the ball over.

Kinda funny

Never trust a fart

by AB's triple double on Feb 3, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

About VC Being "The Man"

I’m originally from Toronto.

Believe me, I’ve had my ups and downs with Carter. But the fact of the matter is that he is a phenomenally talented player who can murder you any number of ways (driving to the basket, passing, hitting threes, bailout jump shots, whatever) who has been asked to do all of the above.

To all those who are hating on Carter for “thinking” that he’s a “star,” consider this: VC was brought in here to be that player. Vince has talked about wanting to fit in and Van Gundy has requested he do otherwise.

Here’s the specific quote from Tim Potvak at NBA Fanhouse:

“Vince Carter has said all the right things. He’s talked endlessly about fitting in with a team that reached the NBA Finals last season, about altering his game to fit with center Dwight Howard, and about being happy to change the way he has played his entire career.

On Friday, coach Stan Van Gundy finally asked him to stop.

He doesn’t want Carter fitting in. He wants him standing out.

“I don’t want him stepping on the court thinking about fitting in. He can fit in, in the locker room. We didn’t bring him here to be a guy who is just moving the ball,’’ Van Gundy said. “We want him attacking. I want the guy who has been so good all these years. I want all his greatness.”

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/26/magic-dont-want-vince-carter-fitting-in/

Vince has been terrible. His body has been failing him. And when he goes into a funk, it’s some real George Clinton and Parliament-type funk. But he’s doing what he’s been asked to do on a brand new team with lofty expectations. It’s going to take a team effort to figure out how to integrate Vince into their game plan. Can we give the guy a break and let him play basketball?

by Hoop Dreams on Feb 3, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Great thoughts.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see VC have a good game.

But the question still sits out there about the 5 “usual” starters being able to click. I want to see VC have a game like this when the ball is still in Nelson’s hands to run the offense. (And don’t start on the J-Will-as-the-starter thing in response…..I was there once, too, but now agree that he just doesn’t have the legs to play that many minutes through the whole season.)

While VC had a good game from the boxscore (I was unable to watch the game) it appears that Lewis didn’t. Maybe he did all those intangible things that don’t show in the boxscore? Those who watched could chime in.

It still seems to me that one of Lewis, Carter, or Nelson seems to struggle when all three are on the floor

I suppose we have the talent to win often with only 4 out of 5 cylinders firing, but 5 out of 5 will likely be needed to get by Cleveland.

Please don’t accuse me of being negative. I’m just observing. I think Vince getting out of the shooting slump will be a HUGE step. And, I see progress with the starting five…even flashes of greatness. Glad they have the rest of the regular season; ample time to get it together for the playoffs.

"Give it a rest. No need to keep repeating your distaste for Vince. Carter is struggling, we get it." ~erivera7

by magicfaninTN on Feb 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

He had a couple post-ups though.

Rashard probably has a comparable percentage with post-ups as he does when he drives to the rim. He’s not a strong finisher, but his post-up game is nice.

by slickw143 on Feb 3, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lewis had a number of good looks on offense, the shots just didn't fall last night. It happens.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Would like to see Howard's turnover #s come down some more.

I know. Picky, picky.

"Give it a rest. No need to keep repeating your distaste for Vince. Carter is struggling, we get it." ~erivera7

by magicfaninTN on Feb 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

VC's defense?

No one talks about his D here. He has been a very good defender through his slump and is an asset on the end of the floor. he is playing within the offense and when his shot starts falling all this hedo talk will go away.

Does anyone remember last season at this time we were all mad at Hedo and trade rumors were going on about him?

by Magicgirl on Feb 3, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Besides that

Vince is good on the offense EVEN in a slump. Teams still respect the threat he is in clutch, just look at how Boston doubled him at that last possession, opening up the lane for Rashard and his game winning basket. That’s really overlooked when you think about it.

by Raptorel on Feb 3, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Carter's defense has been good.

People have said that when Vince is motivated, he can be a net positive on the defensive side of the ball.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What about this:

What about a starting lineup of J-Will, Redick, Vince at SF, Rashard and Howard. Off the bench would be Jameer, Pietrus (when healthy), Barnes, Anderson and Gortat.

In this particular layout we have at least one hustle guy for each starting and bench lineups (Redick and Barnes) and good shooters for both of them. Jameer could be able to shoot more in that role/lineup and play different ball, and J-Will would put some “pressure” on the starting lineup to run with him on offense.

The roles don’t necessarily mean that J-Will would play more minutes than Jameer, it’s just an idea of how could the Magic get and keep going from the START of the game.

by Raptorel on Feb 3, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can dig that....

but will Jameer’s ego…let that happen…

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by Bonafidebrother on Feb 3, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I don't know because I don't know his personality.

Eddy should provide some input here. But well, it’s just an idea of a random internet guy like me. It’s not like Stan Van Gundy reads this and he suddenly applies my idea so sometimes I think all of this is a waste of time.

by Raptorel on Feb 3, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, no, no.

That starting lineup would be a disaster on defense. Redick is, more or less, average and Carter can’t effectively defend opposing small forwards. Putting Barnes back on the bench wouldn’t be a smart move.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so many people on here jumped on the trade VC/ he sucks/ we want courtney lee back bandwagon! now he is for the most part back to form and everybody is in love with vince. when people are doing bad give them a break and cheer them on just the same. i used to always be disappointed with JJ but he has finally come around having his best season!

by Jace on Feb 3, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fans are fickle.

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by erivera7 on Feb 3, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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